Sean & Santos 11/8 update

[rallen1961b]

I seldom post but I have to comment here. Although I am a fan of Mike Robbins because he has a "playfull" aggressive nature I think Santos was out of line in this video, and what bothered me more was that you can hear David in the background egging him on and then insulting the "straightboy" in the end. It is obvious that Sean was in extreme pain and asked to stop and he was just ignored and that is shameful. Stop means stop just like no means no!! I don't want to see Santos back again and I'm not a fan of Sean's anyway but if I was him I wouldn't be back.

 

[yabba]

First, should you leave Dave, I greatly fear for the quality of the site. It has much more room to go down than up. But change is the universal of life. If you can stay do, if not live long and prosper.

Second, contrary to some statements on this thread it was not Sean's first time getting fucked. See the previous episode.

By the way, thanks for pointing out the hearing problem, it explains Sean's slowness better than dullness.

Third this is not the most extreme fucking in an episode for example Tyler fucking Jacob or poor Wes etc.

Fourth, I suspect the actual problem is the attitudes projected by Dave and a lesser extent Santos. They struck viewers as callus even cruel and few thought they might also be fake.

 

[zyl84]

I seldom post but I have to comment here. Although I am a fan of Mike Robbins because he has a "playfull" aggressive nature I think Santos was out of line in this video, and what bothered me more was that you can hear David in the background egging him on and then insulting the "straightboy" in the end. It is obvious that Sean was in extreme pain and asked to stop and he was just ignored and that is shameful. Stop means stop just like no means no!! I don't want to see Santos back again and I'm not a fan of Sean's anyway but if I was him I wouldn't be back.

Mike R has nothing to do with this scene so bringing him up already invalidates your argument. THIS FANTASY PORN SCENE WAS SCRIPTED AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY A REALITY TINTED PORN SITE. THE ONLY THING REAL IS THE ACTORS IN IT. A C T O R S. I just don't understand how you can all be so blind to the fact. Go look at danny scenes, he made faces like this too. I make faces like that too. The one time I saw sean in the type of pain that would make me stop bottoming is when santos pulled out by accident and went too hard on reentry... that's the only point I saw real pain.

 

[rallen1961b]

man zyl84 calm down! I used Mike Robbins as an example only in making my point, but now what I will say is that I have finally read the whole thread and David's explanation so I feel better about the scene now. I did notice that it seemed to have and unusally large amount of stop points in it so if as David said he was stopping the camera to confirm Sean was ok and wanted to continue and he advised "yes" then I have no problem with this shoot, and I do realize these guys are actors somewhat so I don't normally put to much stock in the behind the scenes drama but I seemed surprised at how this one seemed to be going. I guess as David said he wanted to try something new to spice things up and he certainly brought some life to the site. I will miss David because I think he is a classy guy and does good work.

 

[zyl84]

man zyl84 calm down! I used Mike Robbins as an example only in making my point, but now what I will say is that I have finally read the whole thread and David's explanation so I feel better about the scene now. I did notice that it seemed to have and unusally large amount of stop points in it so if as David said he was stopping the camera to confirm Sean was ok and wanted to continue and he advised "yes" then I have no problem with this shoot, and I do realize these guys are actors somewhat so I don't normally put to much stock in the behind the scenes drama but I seemed surprised at how this one seemed to be going. I guess as David said he wanted to try something new to spice things up and he certainly brought some life to the site. I will miss David because I think he is a classy guy and does good work.

Right on. Welcome to the logical side and thank you for adding your insight about an unusual amount of clean cuts. Good observation!

 

[MissDeidra]

I just want correct a misconception that Slim put out there. I have never claimed to be tight with management. I communicate with them the same as all of the other members, through PM's and emails.

 

[rickster96056]

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. I didn't like this scene at all and something I never expected to see on Broke Straight Boys I think we all know there is a certain amount of "scripting" involved in all of the shoots. But I, as many others just have to point out one more time.............NONE of these boys are professional actors and the pain I saw Sean endure was very REAL!!! I can't believe he realized going into this just how painful the rough gay sex he supposedly asked for was going to be. It makes no difference at this point. My main point is this.........if this is the direction Broke Straight Boys is going I will be canceling my membership.
I do have a question. I guess I missed something somewhere along the way. Before this thread started I had no idea of the rumors that "big changes" are in store for Broke Straight Boys If this is true, stop the tease and tell us already!

 

[joninliverton]

Jeez just got in from work and couldn't wait to see how this thread had progressed and in true Broke Straight Boys forum fassion, it has blown out to all out war. This has all gone way too out of hand. Some of the posts made my long admired posters have been blunt, cruel and callous. And because of a film that a guy wanted to do, the film team were not keen on and tried to advice him not to go too far, and in the end most of the readers do not like it and wished it wasn't released.

There is of course an underlying and subliminal issue here, and that's the alleged massive shake up of the site. There have been rumours on here for a few weeks and not until today have management confirmed that there is indeed credence to this rumours.

I am pretty cut up about some senior members have a go attitude to D&E, you know who you are and you're a bunch of 2 faced tossers. I'm glad that my friendship with these people didn't go beyond a few emails. End of

 

[mikeyank]

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. I didn't like this scene at all and something I never expected to see on Broke Straight Boys I think we all know there is a certain amount of "scripting" involved in all of the shoots. But I, as many others just have to point out one more time.............NONE of these boys are professional actors and the pain I saw Sean endure was very REAL!!! I can't believe he realized going into this just how painful the rough gay sex he supposedly asked for was going to be. It makes no difference at this point. My main point is this.........if this is the direction Broke Straight Boys is going I will be canceling my membership.
I do have a question. I guess I missed something somewhere along the way. Before this thread started I had no idea of the rumors that "big changes" are in store for Broke Straight Boys If this is true, stop the tease and tell us already!

Rick, if you read this thread carefully, both of your questions have been answered. No. This scene is not the direction Broke Straight Boys is going in. David explained that Sean requested rough sex, and the camera stopped several times, and Sean was asked if he wanted to continue, and he agreed. At the end of the shoot David said they all went out to have a fine dinner, and the boys played together in the hot tub. It was a one time experiment that obviously failed, as almost no one really enjoyed the scene.

As far as the big changes, David is no longer filming any scenes for Broke Straight Boys We are watching the remainder of the old scenes, and a new director and new models and a new set is coming. We don't know any of the details, but many of us are sad that David seems to have been "set up" to be the fall guy on this most recent, most unfortunate episode.

 

[SGVBOB]

full consent to be in an adult film, however I HIGHLY doubt that Sean said to Santos, "PLEASE rape me, PLEASE!!!" even if that wereto have the SLIGHTEST bit of truth in it, what the HELL is it doing on a Broke Straight Boys site? NOWHERE in the description does it say, "some scenarios may offend members, but all performers have signed consent papers to go from as vanilla as sucking dick, to being RAPED"!

Then again, I could have missed that section

Sgvbob, I've seen updates where the actors in the porn fantasy say stop and they just slow down. I guess that's rape too. I've told my boyfriend to stop, I guess he rapes me too. Oh wait... rape implies nonconsent and everyone I just mentioned gave full consent! I see a flaw in your argument.

Deidra, I am good at making fun of the people who can't get the fantasy. Some people just get wayy too wrapped up in the personal lives of these actors and that makes it worse. Please, let us continue not talking or addressing eachother. Mouths tend to gut us in trouble.

 

[zyl84]

full consent to be in an adult film, however I HIGHLY doubt that Sean said to Santos, "PLEASE rape me, PLEASE!!!" even if that wereto have the SLIGHTEST bit of truth in it, what the HELL is it doing on a Broke Straight Boys site? NOWHERE in the description does it say, "some scenarios may offend members, but all performers have signed consent papers to go from as vanilla as sucking dick, to being RAPED"!

Then again, I could have missed that section

Ill say it because no one else will, you're fucking delusional!!!!! AGAIN THIS IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE PAIN AND TERROR RAPE CAUSES!!!! Rape is non consentual, it is violent, inhumane, degrading, life altering and leaves its VICTIMS feeling helpless and disgusting. You don't laugh or even attempt to joke after being raped. Stop fucking calling it rape. Get a clue before jumping off a bridge...

Sincerely yours,
A true rape victim

 

[MissDeidra]

I also believe that the rape accusations are ridiculous. That really isn't the issue here.

 

[zyl84]

I also believe that the rape accusations are ridiculous. That really isn't the issue here.

Thank you.

 

[johnny831]

MikeYank,

I thought Mark implied in not so many words their would be video's from other directors as well on Broke Straight Boys; there's nothing wrong with competition. But it would be unwise to slaughter the chicken that hatches golden eggs.

If David leaves, I hope he will deliver his content to another site, or his own. I will subscribe to his site, even if he has only one movie online, today!

I hope David one day opens his own site, I will be the first to subscribe. I really feel he is one awesome Director. I'm still all smiles on the "SANTOS FLICK" ..the movie is my all time favorite. I really admire David for standing on principle.

 

[slimvintage]

I hope David one day opens his own site, I will be the first to subscribe. I really feel he is one awesome Director. I'm still all smiles on the "SANTOS FLICK" ..the movie is my all time favorite. I really admire David for standing on principle.

I think David already has some own brand sites in the works?

 

[slimvintage]

I also believe that the rape accusations are ridiculous. That really isn't the issue here.

Exactly right. Moreover the idea that rape is necessarily like "rough sex" goes against the reports of many shaken victims as they describe what happened to them. The rapee is sometimes so shit scared of how sharp that little paring knife in the rapist's hand might be that he/she will go a long way to facilitating the actual act in order to get it over with, sometimes even getting a condom on the criminal before he gets his dick in. And the actual act itself is often reported as being tentative, "tender", quick and apologetic. zyl has brilliantly made the case that what we saw in this video, precisely because of the intention of all the participants, doesn't square even vaguely with any definition yet devised of rape. I'd like to add that it doesn't even represent cinematically what many rapes look like.

There exists a vile, pornographic, samizdat traffic in something called "snuff movies". There's something similar for the marketing of rape films. This Broke Straight Boys update is about as far from the real thing as you can get, and is one of several "aggressive top" videos released over the last couple of years that attracted some flak on the forum in their day from people who like to see gentler stuff.

 

[joninliverton]

full consent to be in an adult film, however I HIGHLY doubt that Sean said to Santos, "PLEASE rape me, PLEASE!!!" even if that wereto have the SLIGHTEST bit of truth in it, what the HELL is it doing on a Broke Straight Boys site? NOWHERE in the description does it say, "some scenarios may offend members, but all performers have signed consent papers to go from as vanilla as sucking dick, to being RAPED"!

Then again, I could have missed that section

I realise you've made an apology to my friend Zyl so I won't go down that road. What I will go down is what do you really think should be happening on Broke Straight Boys site ? and not just you either Bob, the rest of the members.

Up until this week people were stating that the site was boring and needed spicing up, but when a film such as this deviates from the normal "boring" stuff a lot of people kick off and say it's not part of the site.

Where does it say what should and what should not be shown on this site ? Historically we've had bareback - this brought in a lot of issues but the Erik and Ross film still remains in the top ten. We've had ex cons, guys who have said they are married but in fact have been doing bareback gay porn for a few years, we've had homophobes, we've had gay guys and lots of other types of bad attitude and good attitude models, the list is endless.

One also has to be careful when you ask the question because do you refer to just the Broke Straight Boys site alone or include it's bonus sites too.

I've been a member for quite a few years now and I'm quite happy with my membership and the overall site contact (to include bonus sites). If I don't want to watch a film such as this, then if I want to bust a nut I c2c with my buddy Zyl (joke), I go to one of the bonus sites or revisit a film from yesteryear. I sincerely hope management don't shake up the site too much, as that would be like changing a winning formula. I hope yall listening lol.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

Any rape accusations are ridiculous. The models know what they are doing and are asked on camera if they agree to do this and we have the signed documentation. We also ask them if they are under the influence of drugs etc. I can't even believe someone would think this.

 

[rrhill]

I wrote rape movie, as one would write murder movie; no actors get killed.

Mark have you already made up your mind about the changes to come on Broke Straight Boys? Is it definite that new content of David will not appear on this site?

Would you please share some of your ideas? What is true about the speculation going on here? Where some members hate change, I think anticipation is half the fun.

 

[joninliverton]

I wrote rape movie, as one would write murder movie; no actors get killed.

Mark have you already made up your mind about the changes to come on Broke Straight Boys? Is it definite that new content of David will not appear on this site?

Would you please share some of your ideas? What is true about the speculation going on here? Where some members hate change, I think anticipation is half the fun.

Excuse me Mr Hill but a lot of members such as myself have been around for years and showed their loyalty through hard financial times. Loyalty works both ways and I would like to think that Mark would take those that still love the site and it's bonuses into consideration, which I'm sure he has.

Broke Straight Boys has undergone lots of improvement over the last few years however, I can see where some members are coming from regarding contents. I mentioned in another thread that Broke Straight Boys updates are getting rather repetative mainly due to the same surroundings being used and that is probably my beef. The sex between the models is good it's just that maybe the locations and interviews could be varied more.