Can members be anymore RUDE and MEAN????

[angelone]

I read somewhere that states,"What has happened will happen again, and what has been done will be done again, and there is nothing new under the sun." So today we argue about fat on Jimmy, tomorrow something else. Only the topic changes that we argue - and be rude - never.

 

[mikeyank]

I thought Torin was HOT, and I loved him and wish he would be in many more scenes!

Last night I went to look at one of the Torin scenes. I watched Aiden, Torin & Steve, from October 21, 2009. This was after the Torin & Steve scene with the whole house burning down scenario as I remember it, and Torin was supposed to "just be along fo the ride", in support of his housemate who lost all of his property. Of course David convinced Torin to jerk off along side his friend.

In the episode I watched, David told the boys he was bringing a blonde in to give them head, and of course the blonde turned out to be "gay boy" blondie, the very cute, tight, trim, but very feminine Aiden.

I must admit that Torin is better looking than I remembered. I was probably confusing him with his "home boy" Steve, but they are both thin and pasty looking, but Torin's "attitude" is what makes him so well remembered here, plus of course his rock hard stiff cock during the sex. He claimed it was the hot females on the video that got him so hard.

I too enjoyed the Torin scenes, but re-watching it made me think that our current straightie's like Jimmy and Jamie with the supposed "homophobic" attitudes look absolutely like gay rights activists, compared to the snarling, bitching, rolling his eyes, over the top attitude of Torin toward gay boy Aiden.

He was totally over the top in his supposed anti gay attitude, but he was funny in his acting. I think I will watch the other two scenes with the three of them.

You are both right, Jason and Abe, that Torin was both hot and VERY controversial in his truly anti gay attitude, (acting of course), and he sure caused a major stir on the forum.

 

[coxy57]

so would you feel worse about it if bobby did really gain weight in jail? Im not going to say if its true or not but it could be.

No I would feel better about it if he gained weight in jail. When someone gains weight grieving the loss of his parents it is understandable, what is not understandable is why Clay made up the bullshit about him being in jail. He should have just said nothing.
What else I do not understand is where you get the balls to slap the hand that feeds you. It was a harmless post from a caring ( paying) fan untill you decided to attack him as being rude and imature. When they announced the models were going to post I thought what a great idea and up until now it has been but if this is where you want to take it then maybe Mark should rethink it.

 

[jp2008]

Jimmy...attacking others about being rude.. ummmm. Was that rude of me posting that?

 

[JohnnyG919]

I completely forgot about Torin. I had to go look and see who he was. I don't believe I was part of the forum 'stir.' In fact, I don't think I was posting much at all at that time. But now that I remember who he is, have to say that I thought he was hot too. And I thought the straight boy act was kind of funny. I don't care what he said, he wasn't straight. Too funny.

 

[jasonaz]

I completely forgot about Torin. I had to go look and see who he was. I don't believe I was part of the forum 'stir.' In fact, I don't think I was posting much at all at that time. But now that I remember who he is, have to say that I thought he was hot too. And I thought the straight boy act was kind of funny. I don't care what he said, he wasn't straight. Too funny.

Too bad you didn't get in on that one JohnnyG, it was a great thread with heated exchanges by both sides of the forum. It became "the thread that would'nt die", much like this one.

Just so you know, the whole issue arose when Torrin uttered the word "fag", now mind you he did'nt call anyone a "fag", he didn't direct the word "fag" at any one person or group of people. But apparently, some of the member's decided that one cannot say the word "fag", unless you are a "fag", and by proclaiming he was straight, it was unacceptable for a straight boy to utter the word "fag".

And now you know, the rest of the story.

-Jason

 

[mikeyank]

Too bad you didn't get in on that one JohnnyG, it was a great thread with heated exchanges by both sides of the forum.

I got a kick out of your using the term, "both sides if the forum", Jason. It is like the political parties in congress, with conservatives and liberals. Do the two sides of the forum have names? I guess I am on the "pro straight boy, not offended by the word fag" side of the forum. But it is interesting that you see there being two sides to the forum too, Jason.

 

[balboa]

I got a kick out of your using the term, "both sides if the forum", Jason. It is like the political parties in congress, with conservatives and liberals. Do the two sides of the forum have names? I guess I am on the "pro straight boy, not offended by the word fag" side of the forum. But it is interesting that you see there being two sides to the forum too, Jason.

Too bad you didn't get in on that one JohnnyG, it was a great thread with heated exchanges by both sides of the forum.

Mike, without you and those on your side, I'm not sure there would be a Broke Straight Boys So, like Congress, we definitely need both sides of the str8 boy issue. The 'fag' word controversy reminds me of the 'n' word controversy. As an African-American, I can relate. No one but another African-American should say it. I guess the 'f' word is the same thing. Personally, I'm only mildly offended to hear it used by str8 people. I guess I've become immune to its power after all these years.

 

[lesit78]

Too bad you didn't get in on that one JohnnyG, it was a great thread with heated exchanges by both sides of the forum. It became "the thread that would'nt die", much like this one.

Just so you know, the whole issue arose when Torrin uttered the word "fag", now mind you he did'nt call anyone a "fag", he didn't direct the word "fag" at any one person or group of people. But apparently, some of the member's decided that one cannot say the word "fag", unless you are a "fag", and by proclaiming he was straight, it was unacceptable for a straight boy to utter the word "fag".

And now you know, the rest of the story.

-Jason

I actually thought the Stephen/Torin/Aiden series was among the hottest Broke Straight Boys has ever put out. Aiden was extremely effeminate and gay acting, but he was likeable and funny. Stephen was quiet, shy, obedient, and willing (although you could tell it wasn't his thing). Torin, was so full of sexual frustration and tension I was sometimes wondering if he was halfway close to cumming in his underwear before even touching his cock or getting naked!

Torin protested the most to be sure, yet he was the one who seemed the most incredibly, awe inspiringly turned on throughout yet his actions, body language, words, sighing and acting pissed off as hell, was the complete opposite of his throbbing hard cock.

MEGA Hot stuff, you can't really make that up or act it out.

And Kudos to David, he knew how to tease the frustration right out of Torin, yet keep Aiden laughing and talking a mile a minute, coax Stephen to push the envelope more and more (which Stephen did willingly), all while keeping us the viewers laughing and entertained from start to finish...all simultaneously. To me that is talent that is found in maybe 1 in 1,000,000.

 

[bigslim69]

yes i have anger, i have anger at jimmy for saying we are being rude, and i agree that thT MEMBERS SHOULD NOT be talking about a models weight and i also agree that it's wrong, however the shit that comes out of jimmy's mouth is worse then what members saying, i won't watch anymore videos with him in it anymore because it's people like him that give that job a bad name. times r tough. he is just rube and i don't like him. Like i said I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE ON HERE THINKS, THESE R JUST MY THOUGHTS!!!

 

[SGVBOB]

you're correct Johnny in saying that he never got to be part of the forum. OH MY! Could you imagine what his posts would look like(as of late)[referring to the envuironment of the forum?? LOL]

I completely forgot about Torin. I had to go look and see who he was. I don't believe I was part of the forum 'stir.' In fact, I don't think I was posting much at all at that time. But now that I remember who he is, have to say that I thought he was hot too. And I thought the straight boy act was kind of funny. I don't care what he said, he wasn't straight. Too funny.

 

[centex]

Jimmy's point

I have to agree with Jimmy 100% iof you can't anything nice you should keep your mouth shut. Jimmy has been put through the ringer too so he knows what he is talking about , anyways I think Bobby is just fine the way he is remember it's whats in the inside that counts the outside is superficial.

 

[Jimmy_Johnson]

i havent read any replies yet

Before i read these replies i would just like to remind ALL the members out ther that i know bobby and the other models personally so to have people attack him its just my natural instinct to defend him or any other models being attacked by members thers a classy way to give your opinion or suggestions and i have no problem speaking my mind if i feel strongly about something and i feel strongly SOME of the post critizing models are not right even if it is a porn site that the people making these mean posts pay to watch...its just like going to a sports game you can boooo curse say everything under the sun but when you start throwing things thats just classless my thread was simply trying to make that point

 

[Jimmy_Johnson]

Amen Jimmy couldn't of said it better my self. Its one thing to be a critic its another thing to belittle the models. Yes everyone is titled their opinions but some people should just filter it a little bit. Your the man Jimmy thanks for all your help. Your a cool dude.

good thing you backed me up i was worried people were going to be outrage that a model had the nerve to speak his mind and actually call members out

 

[Jimmy_Johnson]

I happen to agree with you Mike about some of the posts on this thread. For instance Chicanodag and Balboa make very good points. If a model makes a drastic change in his appearance, be it a very different haircut, dying his hair a different color, one or more brand new tattoos, a noticeable fluctuation in weight (either up or down)...it's bound to disappoint some and please a few others. Paying viewers have the right to state an opinion. Either pro or con. Models who want to work on camera should be aware of those implications if they are contemplating a subtle or drastic change of their bodies. I personally still have to cringe though when the issue of weight is involved.

I was being honest when I said that I have not read the thread or posts in question because the title alone made me very uncomfortable. Jimmy felt that the thread and posts were rude and over the top. I see that many of you disagree.

Look at what happened here though. Jimmy has been accused of being "rude", "mean", and so on with the other models. Yet as soon as he saw that thread he jumped in to defend his friend and fellow model. So that immediately calls into question whether he has a bad relationship with his coworkers. As the senior model here on BSB 2 that is exactly the role I would hope that he plays off-set in helping out his fellow models who have less experience in the business than he does.

This also jibes perfectly with his claim that a man of his character will naturally come to the defense of the underdog or those he feels are being bullied. Even if Jimmy has it all wrong, and the posts on the other thread are much more benign than he makes them out to be...I have to respect him for coming to Bobby's defense. Jimmy is exactly the kind of friend that I would want to have...and exactly the kind of friend that I would want to be to others.

Free speech works both ways. We viewers have the right to critique models and their scenes. Jimmy as a model himself, and the senior model whom the other models look to for guidance...has the same free speech right to come in and ask us to tone down some of the rhetoric.

great post all the way around especially the last part everything you said made since i like reading posts that make since....

 

[Jimmy_Johnson]

That's pretty unlikely Jimmy. In jail, you aren't fed much. I know because my sister is a captain at a county jail and I have a friend who was in jail for awhile and they basically feed you enough to keep you from starving, and that's about it. A lot of guys have plenty of access to weights, and they lift all the time. Not saying that's what everyone in jail does, but many do however. I think it's pretty much unheard of to actually *gain* weight in jail.

This is not to be argumentative towards Jimmy, nor is it to say that I think Bobby hs even gotten fat because I most certainly do not, at all.

Abe

all i have to say is that i dont know wher you grew up but ive seen alot of people go and come back from jail and ALL not just some ALL have come back with more weight than they had before...its not about food its about burning calories and you dont burn many calories in jail...as a matter of fact its almost amazing to me you havent heard of gaining weight in jail mike vick gain 20 pounds plax burress gained 15

 

[Jimmy_Johnson]

I'm sorry. I was a bit taken aback when I saw this thread and I had to go check out the thread in question.

I don't often find myself in disagreement with Mikeyank, but I think this is one occasion where I am. My personal feeling about the comments toward Bobby are that they are tasteless and disrespectful - and largely unfounded. I do note, Mike, that you don't really think Bobby looks bad at all, but I disagree that these comments were not out of line.

I do agree that everyone has a right to their opinion. The free speech argument is thrown around too often and it's really entirely irrelevant here. This isn't about anyone's right to say anything they want. You have that right. No one is going to throw you in jail for saying something tasteless and disrespectful. But that doesn't make it any LESS tasteless and disrespectful. It's not about your right. It's about common decency.

Yes, Bobby is on a porn site. That doesn't mean he aspires to be a porn star. Yes, there are some of you who think that even a little extra weight is somehow a bad thing. It's not, but as they say, opinions are like ***holes - everybody has one. But the idea that you, because you pay for this site, somehow have the right to say things that are downright mean and that Jimmy - who obviously found these statements offensive (as do more than a few members) - does not... Well that's just insane.

Most people here wouldn't go up to someone in a public place and call them fat. Most wouldn't even do it in private. It's not any more okay here. Yes, you have the 'right' to do it, but you'd still be a jerk for saying it. It violates the laws of common decency - which, apparently, are not very common these days.

And let's get one thing straight about being paying members: The only thing that your payment gives you the 'right' to to do is to view the content on this site. It doesn't give you the right to dictate what the models should or should not do. It does not make it less disrespectful to talk smack about the models. (We've all violated that one on a few occasions.) Your presence on this forum is a privelege afforded to you by the owners of this site - not a protected right.

You can say what you want and you can argue your reasons all you like, but the bottom line is that what was said was upsetting to a number of members and at least one of the models. That, in itself, is a reason to think twice about it. If you wouldn't say it to your mother or to your sister, you should at least think before you say it here.

thanks johnny you took time to actually think before just saying OMFG how could a model dare say anything bad about the people who put money in his pocket but in all honesty i didnt say anything bad i was just making a point...

 

[coxy57]

Before i read these replies i would just like to remind ALL the members out ther that i know bobby and the other models personally so to have people attack him its just my natural instinct to defend him or any other models being attacked by members thers a classy way to give your opinion or suggestions and i have no problem speaking my mind if i feel strongly about something and i feel strongly SOME of the post critizing models are not right even if it is a porn site that the people making these mean posts pay to watch...its just like going to a sports game you can boooo curse say everything under the sun but when you start throwing things thats just classless my thread was simply trying to make that point

It is amazing you just reply to posts that agree with you or worship you. I am still waiting for you to explain how Bobby was ATTACKED. If you have someone read you the post you will see it was from a fan who was concerned Bobby was puting on weight. He had no intention of being rude or mean and you are the only one that took it that way. He was not mean or rude enough to announce on a porn site that Bobby was grieving the loss of his parents.
And by the way you are wrong, by paying his membership He has the right to critique episodes on how he thought they went and how the models did or looked.

 

[Rob_Ryder]

Rob Ryder, while I'm not a big fan of his work, had a great point which is so true awhile back when he said that even though they are in porn, and are performers for the viewers' pleasure, these guys have feelings. Thank you Rob for pointing that out to us awhile back, and thank you Jimmy for calling us out for being mean spirited in regards to Bobby.

You are most certainly welcome

And like I had mentioned before, people can say what they want, I just think it's nice to think before you speak. Especially when it is in regards to another person.

 

[Rob_Ryder]

for god sake someone asked bobby to lose weight because he was getting fat...maybe god for bid his parents died and hes going through stress so hes been eating more than usual and exercising less...HOW THE FUCK can members think that im a mean rude person but post and say things about models like were just fuck toys...its imature to talk about other people this way even if we are pornstars...

Believe it or not Jim Jim, the people who are "mean" on this forum, look like a Sunday School group of kids compared to some of the other gay porn blog sites out there. People can get ruthless in the things they say when they know that they don't have to suffer any consequences that they would normally have to suffer had they said it to the models face LOL.