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Yaaah I just finally cancelled my 3 yr sub

1. How would you handle being in business and that 75% of your members keep requesting the same models? Would you ignore 75% of your members? Would you satisfy your members and do you best to show requested models?

2. How would you film a model that comes into your studio and has never filmed porn before and is very nervous? Would you just tell this type of model, "Hey, buck up! I'm paying you money so you will perform and do as I say and if you don't like it, you can leave?" and then throw him into a fucking scene and make him feel very uncomfortable or Would you simply work with that model and try to make him more comfortable so you can build his confidence up so when he does his fucking scene, he will be more willing and not as pressured to do more?

3. If you have 6 months worth of footage and in that 6 months worth of Broke Straight Boys footage you have many new hot models, but you can't place them all up on the site all at once and you don't want to place the Broke Straight Boys episodes out of order, how would you handle this?

As you can see from my questions, there are many challenges just dealing with content & models and making the correct decisions we think would satisfy all our members...but when your faced with certain decisions, you have to do your best.

It would be nice to hear from those complaining members and I like to see your answers to the above questions be answered and see how you as a member would handle our some of our challenges.

-David

As someone who has been a paying member of and on, I can totally understand the OP's point. There seems to be long stretches where the models we see are either all regs (not that it's a bad thing) or the new models are not exactly 10's. I've dropped my membership before during those long lags...but then I'll see some new hot model I just HAVE to see and rejoin (this time around it was Logan and Preston)...I saw a few scenes with them but then they disappeared. I hear Preston will be back...but I've been seeing management say on the forums 'sometime' for a couple months now.

As several people pointed out, the lead up to HD was annoying because you stated "we HAVE to get through all the standard def stuff before we show the HD." This went on for over a month with build up and promises of how great HD was going to be, and then the very first HD scene was two models we'd already seen doing things we'd already seen them do. I, for one, remember being extremely disappointed when I saw what the first scene was going to be...

I can understand from a business standpoint the need to always be promising something great is around the corner...but a month of build up towards HD fell extremely flat with the first scene.

Anyways, to answer your questions:

1. By all means regular models are the cornerstone of getting people to stick around...but it's frustrating to see some of my favs doing work on your sister site boygush...which isn't accessible with a membership on this site (namely Tyler). How about in addition to the normal rotation you go through, you have a 'membership weekend' once a month where forum members vote on two scenes. You provide the the scene details (ex. One is a 3 way tag team, the other two guys doing just oral) and then a list of models available. We vote and the the model with the most votes does each scene; you can rotate the available models every month to prevent a model from ALWAYS being picked.

2. I totally agree, I personally have no problem with the solo's...only suggestion would be to add in some toys and such sometimes :)

3. Again, I find this excuse annoying. Why do you have 6 months of footage? Do you use all the footage you shoot? If you have so much stored up that 'has' to be used...how more more uber update weeks where one is done everyday like the last week before the HD switch?

Another thing that might curb the annoyance of being told 'good stuff is around the corner' is tell us exactly WHEN that will happen. I've seen you put a few weeks worth up updates in advance on the forums...why isn't that standard practice? Why only show us the next three...especially if you have '6 months' of footage lined up?
 
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Wow thats sure is a telling statement..."...those that just bore us with negativity". The bottom line is that Members are really Consumers. Sorry you find some feedback of a negative nature boring.

Dustin...I PM'd you with some questions...you never got back to me. So instead of bashing me and management...why don't you give solutions.

Other members of the site posted on this thread and in separate threads solutions and suggestions that we as management and other members can discuss. But if all your going to do is bash management in an open forum...your just making yourself look like an ASS to other members.

In another threads, other members have already have commented about your negativity. We welcome suggestions and feedback, but with solutions...but just to come on this forum and bash us which is down right rude.

Every time you have posted, its all negative comments...if you don't like this site...perhaps you need to try other sites...why stay on a site that you don't like the content and the management? Do you like abuse? are you into this type of treatment? Or are you that bitter that you like to push other peoples buttons?

You can be as negative as you want. Broke Straight Boys and all of our sites will be here regardless if your a member of these sites or not. Some have PM'd me with a theory that perhaps your our competition and your just coming on here to stir the pot an make these comments about the site to rally our members to cancel there memberships....but its not going to work because we just happen to have a very smart educated group of members that know better. Yes! some do cancel because they simply can't afford it, but after several months they seem to join again and stay a while...we are not perfect and we never claim to be a perfect site. Not everyone is going to love our sites and the work we do. But most do and if you are our competition or if your just a person that don't like this site...then we prefer that you move on and take your negative remarks to another site or just don't post on the forum. If you are our competition, email me privately with what is your problem and issues...are you that jealous and insecure with your site that you feel we are a threat to your own business that you have to come here and spread your jealous negative overtones.

I don't know why your here on this site and what exactly is your motives or what exactly is your problem, you can only answer that for yourself but if you don't like the site...LEAVE!!! and let others who enjoy our site, enjoy our site. Unfortunately if you do keep up with this negativity, you will be banned from this forum so take this as your first warning! :001_cool:
 
Oh! and I'm still waiting for the member that started this thread to get back to me. Both him and dustin I PM'd with some questions and some solutions but they never got back to me nor had the decency to give me there feedback.

I'm still waiting guys....???
 
they are probably the same person....
 
Oh! and I'm still waiting for the member that started this thread to get back to me. Both him and dustin I PM'd with some questions and some solutions but they never got back to me nor had the decency to give me there feedback.

I'm still waiting guys....???

Dave, as I've said before on this thread, you've been wound up. Slim may not be far from the truth when he says these "strangers" could be impersonators or people from other sites trying to disrupt things. If this is so, judging by the amount of time you've spent posting, they've done a good job.

Personally I would treat the one off comments from "strangers" with a bit of sceptitism and suspicion. Now if the comments were made by well known members then of course it would be a different kettle of fish.
 
Tampa...another great post!!! I agree with your point about returning models pushing the envelope. If they are going to come back..then I should be a bit more daring and have them do other stuff as well. The models that are returning, I did ...I pushed some of them to there limits..remember I can only do so much with these guys.

I can get them drunk...LOL. I'm sure they will do more but unfortunately I can't have them drunk and film them at the same time.

As for CF and there model Lucas...in his defense I will admit that the hardest part of any directors/producers job is to let go a model. Lucas like many of our Broke Straight Boys models forms a bond/friendship. We mentor these guys and we are more to a father and mother to them then there real moms & dads. We listen to them, we offer them advice...we see them grow mentally and sexually.

We get to know the models on a level that Mark and the rest of management does not see or understand. Out of the production group...I'm the only person that can separate my feelings...but Eddie is like "mom" to the models and I have to admit..its sad when you don't have a model come back anymore. Its the worse thing about this job. Its very sad and upsetting so perhaps the reason why CF does keep Lucas around is for this very reason.

Well personally, there are certain models at Broke Straight Boys (Tyler, Diesal, etc.) that I don't think any of the members would get sick of no matter how many scenes you hire them for, as long as they don't start studio hopping and being seen in everyone else's scenes too.

Also, some of the other models who refuse to wander too far across the line (refuse to kiss, etc.), should be "retired" before the guys who will do more than them are willing to do in my opinion.

For example, Mike Robbins. He's a great guy with a great personality, and he seems really cool and like a very down to earth and nice guy. He's also very cute, sexy, hot, and he looks amazing naked. However, he has made it clear that he will never be going any further than he has already gone, and he has also made it clear that he will never do any kissing.

As a result, I am bored with him already and never even watch his scenes anymore because I know that he'll never do anything more than he's already done.

This is nothing against him personally, like I said he seems like a really great guy. BUT, business is business and if you don't want to push the envelope any, your fans are going to quickly become bored with you and move on to others who are willing to do more.

I can definitely understand how it would become very difficult and upsetting to get close to these guys on a personal level only to have them leave the "family" so to speak, but that's all a part of the biz like you have mentioned Dave.

CF's decision to keep Lucas around for decades on end (in porn years) because he can't let go of his obvious fascination for him, is probably a very bad business decision. I know that in spite of the fact that the CF bundled membership (amateurcollegemen.com along with amateurcollegesex.com in one monthly recurring billing/username and password) is quite expensive, I believe around $50.00 per month or so, I for one have spent hundreds of dollars over the last several years in recurring billings that I paid to that website.

But I got so sick of seeing Lucas in every other scene that I finally cancelled my membership permanently about a year ago, and haven't been back since. Which to be honest, my annoyance with Lucas doesn't stem as much from me getting bored with him years ago, as it does with the fact that I just can't stand Lucas' own infatuation with himself. You can tell just by watching him for 30 seconds or less that he has always been madly in love with himself, and is his own biggest fan.

My personal opinion is that the management at CF have lost a lot of long-time members (like myself) over the years, by making poor business decisions based on their own personal feelings about certain talent that they just can't seem to "retire" from the site.

Read the reviews of that site on some of the blogs and porn site review sites out there, and you'll see that many others feel the same way about them constantly using the same models over and over again year after year...yet the new guys are only used for awhile but then they permanently disappear into the mist of time (again, in porn years), never to be seen again.

Which would be ok, if it was a site whose niche was for those who want to see the same 3 or 4 guys fucking occasionally new guys for years on end, but that's not the premise behind CF.

I think that most members of Broke Straight Boys would be perfectly ok with bringing back the popular guys year after year until they just get too old to perform anymore, and the majority of the members would be happy with that...again, as long as they don't start studio hopping. That is definitely the key, at least for me!

BUT, anyone who refuses to go beyond a certain level in terms of what they're willing to do in front of the cameras for $$$ are simply going to have a much shorter shelf life than those who are willing to go all the way and do anything that's asked of them.

For me, kissing is a HUGE turn on. I absolutely LOVE kissing. Anyone who refuses to kiss, I'm bored with them right away no matter how hot they are.

And it seems to be a rather commonality among many of us, because you'll notice that any scenes that include kissing always score really high on the popularity scale.

Tyler's last scene with Dustin (may he rest in peace) scored the all-time high of any scene on Broke Straight Boys, at least as of yesterday anyway. But not only did they kiss, but they did it often, and they did it well! They didn't just give each other a peck on the lips and try to keep from laughing (which is NOT hot, when the guys start laughing when they kiss), but they used some tongue, and Tyler even started rubbing his hands down Dustin's back as they kissed, which seemed to indicate that he enjoyed their kissing, and also that he is a great kisser to boot!

I'm disappointed when I see how little big dicked Michael kisses, especially since he's actually gay. Kissing = HOT, and guarantees high voter turnout and high ratings on the scene, and helps propel the model to much higher levels of fandom and adoration lol.

The Diesal and Jimmy scenes, were INCREDIBLE. Not only did they do a lot of kissing, but their chemistry on camera was incredible, and almost palpable. And I think we all know that the camera literally robs people of hotness. The camera adds pounds, subtracts passion, and tends to maximize blemishes at the same time it's recording the action. But in the Diesal and Jimmy scenes, their chemistry still managed to shine through, and those were done way before the move to HD!

A couple more of the red hot scenes here on Broke Straight Boys, the unforgettable ones, were the old Erik and Ross scenes. Too bad those two didn't come back many MANY more times to do scenes.

But I'm guessing it's because after they were on Broke Straight Boys, they were also on many other sites too, so they probably weren't asked back after they started studio hopping.

Another old red hot Broke Straight Boys scene that remains one of my favorites is the second scene with Duncan and Arib, where Duncan comes all over Arib's face and into his open mouth, and Arib then proceeds to lick Duncan's hot curved cock clean, and continue sucking on it for a couple minutes as though it's a delicious lollipop, and he's trying to get every last drop of cream he can out of it. Even though I've seen Duncan elsewhere besides Broke Straight Boys, I still hold that as one of my favorite Broke Straight Boys scenes because of its hottness factor...to the extent that I am willing to forgive the fact I've seen Duncan elsewhere.

Anyways, enough rambling from me...I gotta get some work done.

Abe
 
Well personally, there are certain models at Broke Straight Boys (Tyler, Diesal, etc.) that I don't think any of the members would get sick of no matter how many scenes you hire them for, as long as they don't start studio hopping and being seen in everyone else's scenes too.

Also, some of the other models who refuse to wander too far across the line (refuse to kiss, etc.), should be "retired" before the guys who will do more than them are willing to do in my opinion.

For example, Mike Robbins. He's a great guy with a great personality, and he seems really cool and like a very down to earth and nice guy. He's also very cute, sexy, hot, and he looks amazing naked. However, he has made it clear that he will never be going any further than he has already gone, and he has also made it clear that he will never do any kissing.

i think before you judge mike you should read some of his posts on the forum. oh yeah, did i mention that? he's one of the few models actually on the forum. He had said multiple times about how he sometimes "surprises himself" and in the become a Broke Straight Boys director for a day thread he talks about pushing the envelope.

He really is a great guy with a wonderful personality. and i think he has some surprises in the mix for us.
 
My Two Cents

This thread is very interesting in many ways. I think there were good and bad points on both sides of the discussion. First, the reruns before HD, sometimes boring but tolerable, and it makes sense to use up the old format videos. Second, I think there are a lot of new models. Third, I also love Kink, and we have a true, "Dom", in Dr. Fingerfuck, and Ashton, a more than willing partner. Personally, I find the Dr great to watch. More! More!

I think David and Mark are very open to ideas, more so than most site owners. Most site owners don't even read, or even less accept ideas or input from site members. I also look at the site as a great bargain, compared with other comparable sites. In other words a bang for the buck. I really believe that David and Mark really deliver.

Some of the members did have some things that, I, too, would love to see on the site. If any of the models want to use toys in their solos would be hot. I also liked the idea of the, "I'll never bottom", tops getting topped. I think if Mike and Shane can bottom, guys like Corey and especially Jordan should and could bottom. Let Dr. F get more kinky!

All in All, I think Broke Straight Boys and College Boy Physicals make me very happy and glad to be a member.
 
Dustin...I PM'd you with some questions...you never got back to me. So instead of bashing me and management...why don't you give solutions.

Other members of the site posted on this thread and in separate threads solutions and suggestions that we as management and other members can discuss. But if all your going to do is bash management in an open forum...your just making yourself look like an ASS to other members.

In another threads, other members have already have commented about your negativity. We welcome suggestions and feedback, but with solutions...but just to come on this forum and bash us which is down right rude.

Every time you have posted, its all negative comments...if you don't like this site...perhaps you need to try other sites...why stay on a site that you don't like the content and the management? Do you like abuse? are you into this type of treatment? Or are you that bitter that you like to push other peoples buttons?

You can be as negative as you want. Broke Straight Boys and all of our sites will be here regardless if your a member of these sites or not. Some have PM'd me with a theory that perhaps your our competition and your just coming on here to stir the pot an make these comments about the site to rally our members to cancel there memberships....but its not going to work because we just happen to have a very smart educated group of members that know better. Yes! some do cancel because they simply can't afford it, but after several months they seem to join again and stay a while...we are not perfect and we never claim to be a perfect site. Not everyone is going to love our sites and the work we do. But most do and if you are our or if your just a person that don't like this site...then we prefer that you move on and take your negative remarks to another site or just don't post on the forum. If you are our competition, email me privately with what is your problem and issues...are you that jealous and insecure with your site that you feel we are a threat to your own business that you have to come here and spread your jealous negative overtones.

I don't know why your here on this site and what exactly is your motives or what exactly is your problem, you can only answer that for yourself but if you don't like the site...LEAVE!!! and let others who enjoy our site, enjoy our site. Unfortunately if you do keep up with this negativity, you will be banned from this forum so take this as your first warning! :001_cool:

First... I never recieved any PM from you at all (PM's = 0) My post have been about two topics...HD does not work at all on my end (a technical complaint) and new models. You seem to be the one with the bad attitude and you seem pretty paranoid to think that I was "the competition". I'm just a customer But I will take your advice and spend my $ elsewhere. Feel free to delete or ban. I won't be back
 
bye dustin01! i wish i could say we'd miss ya, but i cant wipe this fucking grin off my face.....
 
Can we call this episode over and get back to the business of consuming the porn that David, Eddie and Mark work so hard to get us to spend our money on (and is deffo worth it!)??????

 
So how does one cancel a membership?
I've tried numerous times and had no luck whatsoever.
 
Don't cut back on solos. It's a chance to get to know the models better. I enjoy hearing them talk about their lives (although I realize some of it might be made up) and their solo performances give us a way to see all their assets, some of which can get overlooked in the duo and group vids.

You can't please everybody and you'll just frustrate yourself if you try!
 
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