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i would really like everyones input on my current attics that I'm was; lets say coach to be more aggressive and verbal and i took it way to far. what would u guys like me to improve to please u all to the fullest.


much love tyler
 
i would really like everyones input on my current attics that I'm was; lets say coach to be more aggressive and verbal and i took it way to far. what would u guys like me to improve to please u all to the fullest.


much love tyler

Few things: pit licking-either do it right or don't do it at all. Pit licking isn't about munching on hair, dude. If you don't really enjoy it, then don't do it because it becomes painfully obvious that you're doing it more for show than anything else and from what I've seen/heard around here, this particular audience would rather have you be a dead fish in bed than have your scenes come off as too fake or overacted.
I did like your aggressive stuff when you first started doing it...then you went way beyond aggressive and it became too theatrical.
The best advice I could give you is: don't play to the camera. Play the crowd. There are really two things the majority of us like: passion and connection. Kissing throughout scenes-not just at the beginning and end. Small touches are always hot-like running your hands along the guy's pecs, or arms, or wrapping your legs around his torso when he's on top.
I, for one, like dominance-but only if it comes to you naturally. Choking, pulling hair when you're slam fucking that ass from behind, making him watch as your dick slides in and out of his hole, and dirty talk- when it's done right is fucking hot. Shouting "take that dick" a hundred plus times isn't really sexy and gets boring and repetitive. Switch it up a little. You're a young and creative guy-I'm sure you have more in your verbal arsenal than just that.
Oh, and we need to talk about your oral skills. Or lack thereof. A dick is more than just the head, and while deep throating is an acquired skill, I think you could try to take more than you do.
Really, just do what comes naturally to you in a scene, let yourself be open to experiencing new things, and use this experience to explore yourself in ways you never thought you would. Our members are very critical and we pay ALOT of attention to detail-every word and action is going to be taken apart and scrutinized so don't try to be something you're not. If nothing else, this group of people has a tendency to tear apart those who they feel are disingenuous. Just ask Jake Tipton.
 
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Just read the posts on the threads of your last several scenes and you will find a variety of suggestions from various members. Spend some of your time doing research on the forum rather than asking us to spend our time to repeat comments we have already made.
 
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Tyler,

I think you are getting the message if you look at the comments already made. The best advice is just do what is natural and normal. Forget there is a camera somewhere nearby and do what you would do if you were fucking your girl friend. No thinking involved, just go with the flow and have fun doing it.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid
 
Hi Tyler! :001_wub:

I'm so glad to see you posting and I'm glad we can all discuss this with you without appearing to be criticizing any one particular scene. You have everything going for you to be successful in this business. You have a great body, a winning personality, a sexy voice...I could go on. lol Suffice to say though that the only thing I feel you need to work on is calibrating your onscreen persona so that your reactions are in synch with what's really happening.

Bobbity has done an excellent job already of hitting the high points of what would help you the most at this moment.

By the way... Did you know that Bobbity is a happily heterosexual woman? :) Kid you not. haha

I may repeat a few things I've already said on other threads. But here goes.

As Bobbity says, the pit licking can be entertaining for short periods of time. Munching on hair though is somewhere between sexually neutral and a total turnoff. Pit licking is really not a kink of mine. But it can add some extra flair to scene. Though I don't recommend it for every scene you're in. At some point you've gotta give it a rest.

I did like your aggressive stuff when you first started doing it...then you went way beyond aggressive and it became too theatrical.

You or any model can fall into the trap of believing that if some is good...(yelling, dirty talk, moaning, rolling of the eyes, tossing of the head)...then more is better. No. More of something is not always better. All of those things can be excellent when done in enough moderation as to be believable and consistent with the flow of the scene. If it's overdone and obviously an act, then it quickly reaches a point of diminishing returns until the audience's eyes are starting to glaze over.

I kind blame the successful reviews and ratings of the 1,000 episode for giving possibly both you and Johnny a misleading idea of what the audience likes or wants. We loved the scene because it had so many All-stars in it. The moaning and carrying on was a bit overdone by just about all the models. But it was entertaining in a "campy" way. It was a funny spoof on feature film gay porn as opposed to the amateur reality gay for pay porn done here. It wasn't as erotic and sexually stimulating as it was funny to watch. But excessive moaning and overacting is not what Broke Straight Boys viewers seem to want to see on a regular basis.

Another example to avoid is fake rimming or fake anything. I had my doubts that Dakota was really rimming you in the 1,000th scene. But I went along with it and suspended my disbelief because the sequence highlighted your great butt and you looked so cute in your reactions. lol But when Johnny had you and Kaden Alexander so obviously faking the rimming sequence in the next orgy scene, then it was a big turnoff. So that's something for you and the director to avoid.


Bobbity is right that you should change up the verbals so that you're not stuck saying things like, "Take that Dick!" 3 or 4 times every minute. If you're stumped for something to say and you think you should be talking more...then start asking rhetorical questions of your follow models. Things like: You like that? Does it feel good? Do you want more? You gonna cum for me? Then wait and see if your coworker gives you an answer or not. haha

Really, just do what comes naturally to you in a scene, let yourself be open to experiencing new things, and use this experience to explore yourself in ways you never thought you would. Our members are very critical and we pay ALOT of attention to detail-every word and action is going to be taken apart and scrutinized so don't try to be something you're not. If nothing else, this group of people has a tendency to tear apart those who they feel are disingenuous. Just ask Jake Tipton.

Kissing while showing a little bit of tongue is freakin' awesome. haha So if you can bring yourself to do it and convince the other model to go along with it, then great. :)

Again, Bobbity says that really well. :)

Big hugs Tyler! xo
 
Tyler,

I think you are getting the message if you look at the comments already made. The best advice is just do what is natural and normal. Forget there is a camera somewhere nearby and do what you would do if you were fucking your girl friend. No thinking involved, just go with the flow and have fun doing it.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

Good advice Vicekid. Tyler don't sweat it. You're awesome and watchin you gets me off every time. It's important to remember that the forum posters are only a small part of your audience. Keep up the good work! Some more cum swallowin would be hot tho
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Stop trying to be Kayden Jr. one of him is more than enough. Be yourself, take 50% of what you were at the beginning and 50% of what you are now and you should be ok. Start making love to your partners ass not trying to destroy it by being a freight engine going 100 MPH. If you want to lick arm pits or rim an ass put your face in there and get your tongue tasting the sweet, not some pretend BS ie "Look at me I am being kinky". If your going to do it do it right, same goes with sucking a cock.
 
By the way... Did you know that Bobbity is a happily heterosexual woman? :) Kid you not. haha

LMAO. Love how you just slipped that in there. Smooth. I'm not exactly hetero though; I'm bisexual. XD
 
I disagree with the "normal and natural" piece of advice. I don't think having gay sex is normal or natural for you (but, although it's not normal for you, you can make it look more natural). You're straight and it shows and that's a good part of what the sites about.

But, you want to be a good porn model. As Tampa said, you have all the right attributes going for you. At this point, you've done several scenes and I assume you've gotten (mostly) used to having sex with men. Most gay for pay models admit that after getting past the major barriers of sucking a dick or fucking a hairy ass or getting their ass fucked, they find some of what they do pleasurable. One of the all time great Broke Straight Boys models, Jason, who worked here and at other sites and had (may still be having) a long career said that the more sex he had with guys, the more he liked the sex. He was able to find pleasure in it and eventually he was a passionate performer who's work was totally believable. It's guys like him that do really well in the business. Many other sites have a high percentage of straight guys doing gay porn, but often they are perceived as gay because they make the sex look so believable. On this site, a part of your straightness has to come through. I don't think you'll have a problem with that.

That's not to say that you don't also have to act. Some of it will never come naturally to you. If a scene calls for something you're not really happy to be doing, get your head wrapped around whatever it is BEFORE you have to do it. Scrunched up eyes and pulling back show an aversion to whatever you're doing and it kills the flow of the scene. Don't lick a pit or suck some toes for 3 seconds. It looks fake (which for you it is, but that's the acting part) and again, kills the flow of the scene. If you're going to do something out of the usual realm of "3 positions then cum", do it for at least 15 to 30 seconds. If you eat ass, you have to do it longer than that. If you take a load in your mouth, don't gag (but do close your eyes. Cum in the eyes burns like hell).

You may want to watch some of the porn on other sites, but I'd be careful about that. I'd say about 80% of the porn out there ranges from just boring to really terrible to really terrifying! Even on the good sites you're lucky to get one hot scene for every 5 mediocre ones. I don't belong to College Dudes, but many of the members on this site do and really like it. It's part of BluMedia, but I think it's more of a "full tilt" gay site. The guys do more and make it look real. Talk to some of the other models or ask Johnny or Sha about other sites. Maybe they don't want you getting to look "too professional", since Broke Straight Boys is really considered an amateur site.

At any rate, watch some of Jason's scenes. He always brought intelligence, humor and passion to his work. He made the sex look hot. That's the name of the game.

Good luck, and I hope you can grow into the model you want to be.
 
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I disagree with the "normal and natural" piece of advice. I don't think having gay sex is normal or natural for you (but, although it's not normal for you, you can make it look more natural). You're straight and it shows and that's a good part of what the sites about.

But, you want to be a good porn model. As Tampa said, you have all the right attributes going for you. At this point, you've done several scenes and I assume you've gotten (mostly) used to having sex with men. Most gay for pay models admit that after getting past the major barriers of sucking a dick or fucking a hairy ass or getting their ass fucked, they find some of what they do pleasurable. One of the all time great Broke Straight Boys models, Jason, who worked here and at other sites and had (may still be having) a long career said that the more sex he had with guys, the more he liked the sex. He was able to find pleasure in it and eventually he was a passionate performer who's work was totally believable. It's guys like him that do really well in the business. Many other sites have a high percentage of straight guys doing gay porn, but often they are perceived as gay because they make the sex look so believable. On this site, a part of your straightness has to come through. I don't think you'll have a problem with that.

That's not to say that you don't also have to act. Some of it will never come naturally to you. If a scene calls for something you're not really happy to be doing, get your head wrapped around whatever it is BEFORE you have to do it. Scrunched up eyes and pulling back show an aversion to whatever you're doing and it kills the flow of the scene. Don't lick a pit or suck some toes for 3 seconds. It looks fake (which for you it is, but that's the acting part) and again, kills the flow of the scene. If you're going to do something out of the usual realm of "3 positions then cum", do it for at least 15 to 30 seconds. If you eat ass, you have to do it longer than that. If you take a load in your mouth, don't gag (but do close your eyes. Cum in the eyes burns like hell).

You may want to watch some of the porn on other sites, but I'd be careful about that. I'd say about 80% of the porn out there ranges from just boring to really terrible to really terrifying! Even on the good sites you're lucky to get one hot scene for every 5 mediocre ones. I don't belong to College Dudes, but many of the members on this site do and really like it. It's part of BluMedia, but I think it's more of a "full tilt" gay site. The guys do more and make it look real. Talk to some of the other models or ask Johnny or Sha about other sites. Maybe they don't want you getting to look "too professional", since Broke Straight Boys is really considered an amateur site.

At any rate, watch some of Jason's scenes. He always brought intelligence, humor and passion to his work. He made the sex look hot. That's the name of the game.

Good luck, and I hope you can grow into the model you want to be.

Agreed. Jason was an absolute LEGEND! The best can learn from him x
 
I've said it before "to be a good top you have to bottom for a while"
my advice is do what makes you feel good and do to others the same way.
Yes be yourself don't follow a script.
 
I agree with Stripe and shyhedgehog Tyler, that Jason is an excellent model to emulate, but I would go further and ask you to look into the archives of BSB1, and look up Logan, Shane (the one with the hat known as Tank) and Mike "Jones", (actually Mike Robbins, but for some unknown reason they list him as Jones). All three came to the site as ostensibly straight guys, but they all preformed exceptionally well on the site, by being themselves, but letting their heads get wrapped in the pleasure of having their dick sucked or fucking a tight ass. None of them "overacted" with fake moaning or shouting out phrases, but instead they all allowed themselves to let the pleasure of sex overcome them and they reacted naturally to the feeling of pleasure, which in turn, turned us on watching a handsome young straight guy totally get into gay sex.

So my advise is to do your homework and check out how some of your predecessors on Broke Straight Boys performed on set. No doubt, Tyler, you are exceptionally good looking with a hot body, so you have the necessities, now you need to hone your skills by getting into "the zone" without fake acting, which is a turn-off to many of us, and let the audience watch as you use your God given looks and instincts to get into sexual pleasure.
 
Wow, Tyler, you really opened the door asking for advice, and I admire you for doing it. It shows that you want to please us. You are a hot, young fucker, and I love watching you! You are energetic and eager, and that is a real turn on. Keep enjoying what you are doing. It may very well be that having sex with a guy is not natural for you, but you give it everything you've got, and I love it. Have fun, Tyler. I'm having a lot of fun watching you. Thanks for asking our opinions. Take the criticisms constructively. We love you, buddy. Damn you have a hot ass! I'm looking forward to your next scene with Vadim Black. That will be a hot one.
 
Few things: pit licking-either do it right or don't do it at all. Pit licking isn't about munching on hair, dude. If you don't really enjoy it, then don't do it because it becomes painfully obvious that you're doing it more for show than anything else and from what I've seen/heard around here, this particular audience would rather have you be a dead fish in bed than have your scenes come off as too fake or overacted.
I did like your aggressive stuff when you first started doing it...then you went way beyond aggressive and it became too theatrical.
The best advice I could give you is: don't play to the camera. Play the crowd. There are really two things the majority of us like: passion and connection. Kissing throughout scenes-not just at the beginning and end. Small touches are always hot-like running your hands along the guy's pecs, or arms, or wrapping your legs around his torso when he's on top.
I, for one, like dominance-but only if it comes to you naturally. Choking, pulling hair when you're slam fucking that ass from behind, making him watch as your dick slides in and out of his hole, and dirty talk- when it's done right is fucking hot. Shouting "take that dick" a hundred plus times isn't really sexy and gets boring and repetitive. Switch it up a little. You're a young and creative guy-I'm sure you have more in your verbal arsenal than just that.
Oh, and we need to talk about your oral skills. Or lack thereof. A dick is more than just the head, and while deep throating is an acquired skill, I think you could try to take more than you do.
Really, just do what comes naturally to you in a scene, let yourself be open to experiencing new things, and use this experience to explore yourself in ways you never thought you would. Our members are very critical and we pay ALOT of attention to detail-every word and action is going to be taken apart and scrutinized so don't try to be something you're not. If nothing else, this group of people has a tendency to tear apart those who they feel are disingenuous. Just ask Jake Tipton.

After reading your comments, I couldn't agree more with the suggestions you've made. I don't feel the need to ad anything or expand on what you've already said. Tyler, the truth is, you haven't grown on me yet! Part of that (for me) is...too many suggestions from members and you trying to put it all together at the same time! I guess I am waiting for you to find "Your comfort zone" as an entertainer. Define your skills as they are comfortable for you. Then, I believe you will be able to please most of your audience! You have all of the physical attributes but, without the "talent and performance"...you will be just another pretty face/body! That may also please a number of fans but, not everyone! As it's been suggested, take time to read the comments. See what things you might be comfortable adopting as part of your entertainment and work on being able to do those things well. As time goes on, you (hopefully) will be able to incorporate things that you may pick up (just from experience or from other models) and make them your own. Not trying to "emulate" other models but, trying to define you own style seems like sage advice!:2c: Just so you're clear, I am not saying I don't enjoy your work, just that....you've not quite grown on me as an entertainer yet. That means...there's room to grow for both of us!:closedeyes:
 
OMG I would rather face a host of NY Theater critics. We might give the kid just a little break. and understand that getting naked and having yourself filmed while having sex then open yourself to criticism is putting yourself in a very vulnerable position no matter how big of an exhibitionist you may be. We might tell him how much we enjoy his beautiful body and enthusiastic attitude
 
Find out what if anything the other guy likes. Pit licking and rimming, for example, may or may not turn the other guy on. A top is trying to please his bottom. With new guys that may not be easy to figure out (they don't know themselves) but experienced models have come to know what they like. Have you ever talked to the guys in the house about what they like and or don't like?
 
Tyler, you are a hot young stud with the potential to become the star you want to be. As with everything getting better in each scene should be the goal. You get better by being present, in the moment. If something is feeling good enjoy it. You have had some amazingly hot moments. Tate actually rimming you for one, Dakota rimming you for two, when Ayden was fucking you and you pulled him close for a kiss for another. You were in the moment. You were actually experiencing what was going on and it was exciting and hot to watch.
In your scenes you are wrapped up with getting to the next thing, instead of doing what you are doing at the moment really well. I don't think I have ever heard you ask your partner how they were enjoying what was happening. Takes two to do a video and both should be getting off. The more the guys in the scene are getting off the more the viewers will and that's your job as an actor, to evoke a response from your audience. Being good at man on man sex doesn't make you gay, being good at man on man sex makes you an actor deserving his paycheck. Quit rushing. Quit yelling. Quit trying to be someone else. Start slow, talk to your partner and enjoy what you are feeling at the moment. If you want to do some research watch the "Head Master" Paul or check out Corbin Fisher.com.
Oh, one more thing. You seem to really enjoy when someone licks your balls or plays with them, did you ever consider licking your partner's balls or playing with them?
I hope to see you realize your full potential. You can when your goal is "What can I do to excite my partner" instead of making a list of things you won't try and not expanding your horizons.
 
Tyler, my boy. I'll keep this simple. I have not read all the comments in detail so I may be repeating others comments. If you like what you are doing and finding pleasure in it, just do what comes natural. Let it flow and forget there is a camera or possible script. Pretend you are in the privacy of your own bedroom.

I love you and all you do.

Louis
 
Tyler, my boy. I'll keep this simple. I have not read all the comments in detail so I may be repeating others comments. If you like what you are doing and finding pleasure in it, just do what comes natural. Let it flow and forget there is a camera or possible script. Pretend you are in the privacy of your own bedroom.

I love you and all you do.

Louis
I couldn't of said it better my self Louis so lets pretend I'm your echo. Dan x
 
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