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When does an anti-fetish become a fetish?

What's an anti-fetish?

As far as I know, I just made the term up. But as a peruser of the pornographic arts, I have encountered many a fetish online. Furries confuse the hell out of me, for example, and the animal-human hybrids gross me out, especially in sexual situations. I am not a fan of kink shaming, but I also think a personal taste is not something that needs to be treated as sacrosanct and especially not given a respected minority status.

Anyway, as I am The Gay, I've come across some fetishes that feel exclusive to this interest group. In a way I guess the theme of this site is adjacent to a fetish? But one of the most baffling to me has been the socks one. What is with that? I admit to not being a big fan of feet and think they are often ugly. Perhaps usually in the case of men, especially the bigger, longer ones. Toes themselves are hideous things, and long toenails (on men or women) make me nauseous. I have tried to avoid looking directly at people's feet throughout my entire life. I'm a weirdo.

I remember the first time I saw someone wearing socks in a depiction of sex. It was the film American Pie 2. It annoyed the hell out of me. Why are you wearing socks while having the most intimate contact you can have with another person? I was far from interested in seeing Jason Biggs's feet or those of the girl he was having sex with in the movie, but it left me perplexed as to my own feelings.

Over the years, as I came to accept my own sexuality and the idea that pornography wasn't inherently morally wrong, I encountered many a foot. I never focused on them, but when I would see scenes with people wearing socks I would be annoyed. I felt this way about any clothing remaining. Underwear remaining around the thighs or ankles, stupid jock straps (why would anyone even wear one if not playing a sport?! The whole point of underwear is to protect your outer clothes from getting marred by discharges, and all jock straps do is cover up the genitals! Do you want your pants to reek of farts?!), or worst of all the shirt... so I get that's the root of it. I was so long denied (due to my Tragic Backstory™) the ability to be so intimate with another person, it felt like squandering your gift.

That weird scenario where you see naked people with socks on always grated on me. It felt almost purposeful. Much worse was seeing shoes on an otherwise naked person, when shoes are such filthy things. I've never been a fan of that bizarre Anglo thing of wearing shoes inside your own home. It wasn't until I saw some guys in a scene take their shoes off to take their pants and underwear off, and then PUT THE SHOES BACK ON that I realized that was part of the appeal to some. Mind-boggling. And it destroys any sense of verisimilitude. (Also a reason I usually leave the sound off.)

I get it. Not everything is supposed to appeal to me. Some people like things that I find repulsive, like fisting or scat or whatever. Some people like gay sex in shoes or in women's underwear or wearing Nixon masks. Live and let live. Who cares?

It would bother me still though if I was watching a scene and the camera would pan over and someone was still wearing socks or (much, much worse) shoes. It would turn me off. I would often jump to the end to see if they ever got around to it, and most videos I've found if you don't get the shoes or socks off pretty early, they're pretty much staying on. It got to the point where I came to appreciate the videos where the guys start out barefoot so I don't have to worry about it later, even though I love the stripping parts of sex. Since I didn't need to necessarily see the feet, it was fine as long as I knew the socks were gone.

So this August, I start my second semester at school. It's hot. A friend of mine asks me, is it true that the youth don't show their feet anymore? I'm like, "What?" And she sends me this article:


And so I start looking around. And it's true. On a crowded campus, in late August, I can only see a smattering of open-toed shoes. And, horror of horrors, lots of socks and sandals combos, which until recently was considered the height of lameness. WTF? Then I couldn't stop seeing it. Everyone and their stupid burgeoning ingrown toenails. I noticed that people on YouTube sometimes BLURRED their bare feet (I think as a joke at first, but now it feels like "no free foot pics" has gone too far). I asked a couple of my young friends and one twinky guy said, "why would you show your dogs?" Maddening.

In my brief time constantly looking at people's feet, I caught a couple of trends. Girls were WAY more likely to cover their feet than boys, which is a complete 180 from my youth. And white girls especially. Almost all the girls with visible toes were non-white. Conversely, most of the male feet were white boys.

It started to really annoy me. A lot. I feel like society doesn't need more opportunity to close yourself off, and starting some new Victorian age of foot enclosure is terrible. So with that knowledge, catching porn with socks on started to really grind me. Now when the socks came off, it was like a relief from agitation bordering on a thrill. Then it was a thrill. Now I'm turned on by the removing of socks (though not the feet themselves). Am I turning my disdain for a fetish into, not a foot fetish, but an anti-footwear fetish? I feel like I'm on a knife's edge. The excitement of the removal, but trying to avoid seeing the toes too much, lest I catch a hideous toe and be completely turned off. What a stupid situation.

Anyone still reading this, I hope you enjoyed my insomniac ranting! Send foot pics in response. Actually don't. Ankles are fine.
 
Oh, an anecdote. One of the few times I've been intimate with another guy, he got naked but left his socks on. After a couple of moments, I said, "Can you take your socks off?" He did so and then left his feet out expectantly. And I was like, "What?" And he was like, "oh, I thought you wanted to you know, suck them or something." I was like, "No! I just hate socks." He seemed a little relieved and amused. Good times.
 
You asked if anyone was still reading this? The answer is Yes, I read it all. I love for folks to use this forum to discuss, rant, and opine on all topics both related to Broke Straight Boys and any other subject that interests you and hopefully other readers of the forum.

My particular fetish is my attraction to young, (over 18), lean and fit straight guys. From the time I was way younger to my current time in life, being way older. My earliest conscious memory of this attraction was when I would be on the beach with my family at our summer home on Long Island, and when I was a pre-teen, I would look at the burgeoning older teens with their lean, smooth fit bodies, and the emergence of leg, armpit hair and the unseen pubic hair beneath their swim suits. I would study their bodies and their masculine aura as they hung around in groups playing sports, diving in the ocean and just being the typical “straight” All-American teens.

Yes, I looked at their feet and their arms and their bulges but no individual body part was my particular fetish, and I feel the same today. When I ride the subway in the warm months today, I do enjoy seeing similar guys through their twenties and if they have sandals and I can see their bare feet, that is hot to me, and I’ve noticed in recent years the trend of young guys wearing footwear with low socks or no socks revealing their ankles when they are wearing long pants. But my fetish is not particularly their feet but their overall appearance.

For obvious reasons, I became attracted to Broke Straight Boys, as this site typified my ideal types, particularly in the early days of BSB1. I like watching a hot guy start off dressed and slowly undressing until they are naked. Wearing socks or jocks while having sex is not a particular turn-on for me. I am also one fo the few on the forum who enjoyed new guys doing solos. I thought it was hot to see a “believably straight guy”, start off dressed as I see them myself outside and slowly removing their shirt, shoes and socks, jeans and finally their underwear. It is like being a voyeur of the kind of guys I see in everyday life that turn me on.

Thanks Treb for bringing up a topic that interests me. I know you will be off winter break soon and back to college, but whenever you can and hopefully others will bring up discussion topics. With only one Broke Straight Boys scene per week there is a lot of time for discussions for other topics. Let’s use this forum more, please!
 
I was just out for a short ride on the subway to the local Apple Store. Unfortunately no hotties on the subway today but I was thinking about what I just wrote. I do have a fetish for seeing shirtless guys who are my type, but even hotter is when I get a glimpse of naked flesh even more than a full torso. When I used to work out at the gym, I loved when a hot young guy would walk over to the mirror and lift up his shirt to check out his abs or sometimes higher to see his pecs. I would see his reflection and drool. :drool:

Or still in the gym when a guy was on his back doing bench presses but the bottom of his shirt would lift up a bit as he lifted and I’d see a flash of abs and sometimes the line of hair going from his navel into his shorts. Speaking of which I also love to look at a guy who is shirtless with a toned, trim body and I marvel at how low he wears his shorts. I was never a thin guy and always wore and still wear shorts around my navel. But these hot guys with abs to die for show many inches of flesh and I think that the top of his shorts are right at cock level. I guess that’s why they shave down there to avoid showing a bush at the gym. lol

Anyway just a couple more or perhaps just an elaboration on my “Pervy” fetishes. I do try not to stare as it can be rather creepy for an old guy to be obviously cruising a young straight or even a gay guy at times. But I’m sure that the hotties can tell. They are used to being stared at by guys, girls and everything inbetween. Enough of my thoughts on this subject for now. :001_smile:

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What a great thread. I am super annoyed with the socks too especially in a porn scene. Everything should be removed at one point or another. I see so many middle school wearing their crocks or slides with socks. I am ok with that but I think once you are in high school you need to throw that shit away. Don't even get me started on adults wearing crocks. I just don't like them at all and I think they look ridiculous on adults. :ROFLMAO:
 
What a great thread. I am super annoyed with the socks too especially in a porn scene. Everything should be removed at one point or another. I see so many middle school wearing their crocks or slides with socks. I am ok with that but I think once you are in high school you need to throw that shit away. Don't even get me started on adults wearing crocks. I just don't like them at all and I think they look ridiculous on adults. :ROFLMAO:
I get the crocks part, but my favorite business attire is a combo of lazy grey sweatpants with white socks and a pair of Fuck you flip flops
 
Socks + Flip Flops = why?

Also, the name flip flops is stupid as hell. It sounds like a euphemism.

BTW Brock, given I see you have performed for Frat X, is the shoes thing like the director's choice?
 
Socks + Flip Flops = why?

Also, the name flip flops is stupid as hell. It sounds like a euphemism.

BTW Brock, given I see you have performed for Frat X, is the shoes thing like the director's choice?
Because fuck you that’s why, hence the name. Fli flop is an onomatopoeia, I believe. yes shoes are required on set.
 
Haha. The first "question" was rhetorical. I get the "fuck you" aspect.

I really wonder about the fratty gangbang thing somehow becoming connected to the shoe fetish. I'm not always into gangbanging (I have to be in a particular over-the-top rough sex mood), but the shoes immediately turn me off. This is, not least of which, as I said above, how ridiculous it is to take off your pants and underwear without taking off your shoes first. Of course I know it's all stupid and fake, but for whatever reason it adds an additional level of phoniness to it.
 
What a great thread. I am super annoyed with the socks too especially in a porn scene. Everything should be removed at one point or another. I see so many middle school wearing their crocks or slides with socks. I am ok with that but I think once you are in high school you need to throw that shit away. Don't even get me started on adults wearing crocks. I just don't like them at all and I think they look ridiculous on adults. :ROFLMAO:
I can’t stand socks worn in scenes
 
When does an anti-fetish become a fetish?

What's an anti-fetish?

As far as I know, I just made the term up. But as a peruser of the pornographic arts, I have encountered many a fetish online. Furries confuse the hell out of me, for example, and the animal-human hybrids gross me out, especially in sexual situations. I am not a fan of kink shaming, but I also think a personal taste is not something that needs to be treated as sacrosanct and especially not given a respected minority status.

Anyway, as I am The Gay, I've come across some fetishes that feel exclusive to this interest group. In a way I guess the theme of this site is adjacent to a fetish? But one of the most baffling to me has been the socks one. What is with that? I admit to not being a big fan of feet and think they are often ugly. Perhaps usually in the case of men, especially the bigger, longer ones. Toes themselves are hideous things, and long toenails (on men or women) make me nauseous. I have tried to avoid looking directly at people's feet throughout my entire life. I'm a weirdo.

I remember the first time I saw someone wearing socks in a depiction of sex. It was the film American Pie 2. It annoyed the hell out of me. Why are you wearing socks while having the most intimate contact you can have with another person? I was far from interested in seeing Jason Biggs's feet or those of the girl he was having sex with in the movie, but it left me perplexed as to my own feelings.

Over the years, as I came to accept my own sexuality and the idea that pornography wasn't inherently morally wrong, I encountered many a foot. I never focused on them, but when I would see scenes with people wearing socks I would be annoyed. I felt this way about any clothing remaining. Underwear remaining around the thighs or ankles, stupid jock straps (why would anyone even wear one if not playing a sport?! The whole point of underwear is to protect your outer clothes from getting marred by discharges, and all jock straps do is cover up the genitals! Do you want your pants to reek of farts?!), or worst of all the shirt... so I get that's the root of it. I was so long denied (due to my Tragic Backstory™) the ability to be so intimate with another person, it felt like squandering your gift.

That weird scenario where you see naked people with socks on always grated on me. It felt almost purposeful. Much worse was seeing shoes on an otherwise naked person, when shoes are such filthy things. I've never been a fan of that bizarre Anglo thing of wearing shoes inside your own home. It wasn't until I saw some guys in a scene take their shoes off to take their pants and underwear off, and then PUT THE SHOES BACK ON that I realized that was part of the appeal to some. Mind-boggling. And it destroys any sense of verisimilitude. (Also a reason I usually leave the sound off.)

I get it. Not everything is supposed to appeal to me. Some people like things that I find repulsive, like fisting or scat or whatever. Some people like gay sex in shoes or in women's underwear or wearing Nixon masks. Live and let live. Who cares?

It would bother me still though if I was watching a scene and the camera would pan over and someone was still wearing socks or (much, much worse) shoes. It would turn me off. I would often jump to the end to see if they ever got around to it, and most videos I've found if you don't get the shoes or socks off pretty early, they're pretty much staying on. It got to the point where I came to appreciate the videos where the guys start out barefoot so I don't have to worry about it later, even though I love the stripping parts of sex. Since I didn't need to necessarily see the feet, it was fine as long as I knew the socks were gone.

So this August, I start my second semester at school. It's hot. A friend of mine asks me, is it true that the youth don't show their feet anymore? I'm like, "What?" And she sends me this article:


And so I start looking around. And it's true. On a crowded campus, in late August, I can only see a smattering of open-toed shoes. And, horror of horrors, lots of socks and sandals combos, which until recently was considered the height of lameness. WTF? Then I couldn't stop seeing it. Everyone and their stupid burgeoning ingrown toenails. I noticed that people on YouTube sometimes BLURRED their bare feet (I think as a joke at first, but now it feels like "no free foot pics" has gone too far). I asked a couple of my young friends and one twinky guy said, "why would you show your dogs?" Maddening.

In my brief time constantly looking at people's feet, I caught a couple of trends. Girls were WAY more likely to cover their feet than boys, which is a complete 180 from my youth. And white girls especially. Almost all the girls with visible toes were non-white. Conversely, most of the male feet were white boys.

It started to really annoy me. A lot. I feel like society doesn't need more opportunity to close yourself off, and starting some new Victorian age of foot enclosure is terrible. So with that knowledge, catching porn with socks on started to really grind me. Now when the socks came off, it was like a relief from agitation bordering on a thrill. Then it was a thrill. Now I'm turned on by the removing of socks (though not the feet themselves). Am I turning my disdain for a fetish into, not a foot fetish, but an anti-footwear fetish? I feel like I'm on a knife's edge. The excitement of the removal, but trying to avoid seeing the toes too much, lest I catch a hideous toe and be completely turned off. What a stupid situation.

Anyone still reading this, I hope you enjoyed my insomniac ranting! Send foot pics in response. Actually don't. Ankles are fine.
I’m still reading this! There’s different specific fetishes about “foot fetish” it’s a broken down fetish! I can’t stand crocks the ugliest shoes I saw a guy in the store with them on, I’m like no! Or candles with with socks on just no
 
I’m still reading this! There’s different specific fetishes about “foot fetish” it’s a broken down fetish! I can’t stand crocks the ugliest shoes I saw a guy in the store with them on, I’m like no! Or candles with with socks on just no
Jock straps a total turnoff I hate them
 
I, too, am generally not into socks, stockings or shoes during scenes. That said, some genres of porn focus on footwear. And I recognize that some viewers are into such apparel, so once in awhile, it may be fine, though there are certain scenes (I viewed on other sites) that would have been even better barefoot.

That said, if the model's feet are particularly unkempt, I'd rather they keep them covered!

The main things I'm into are buttocks/anus, then feet soles/heels/feet (the nicer, the better), then penis/scrotum, then pecs (esp. the bigger ones).

@trebligon @BrokeStraightBoys @Robdock05
 
I do enjoy buttocks, but don't care for the anus much as a visual thing. I mean, I don't mind it, as long as it's not like, all bloody or prolapsed.

An interesting thing I sometimes notice are hands. They're mostly just there, but sometimes I see fingernails and can appreciate how clear they are, and how sometimes people's hands look way older than the rest of the person. And then there's that Clay guy's hands, who makes me want to gag every time I see them. I mean, why are they so milky?! Why do they curve around the fingertips?! Ugh... I just made myself nauseous.
 
I do enjoy buttocks, but don't care for the anus much as a visual thing. I mean, I don't mind it, as long as it's not like, all bloody or prolapsed.

An interesting thing I sometimes notice are hands. They're mostly just there, but sometimes I see fingernails and can appreciate how clear they are, and how sometimes people's hands look way older than the rest of the person. And then there's that Clay guy's hands, who makes me want to gag every time I see them. I mean, why are they so milky?! Why do they curve around the fingertips?! Ugh... I just made myself nauseous.
In case you're wondering why I ever see Clay's hands, there's this one young guy, Jack Lowe, who as far as I know has only done stuff with Clay's studio, and sometimes I just like to look at Jack, and unfortunately, Clay is in the videos I've seen. Lowe reminds me of someone who never actually existed but was what I wanted when I was that age. Hmmm... I wonder if it's all associated with trauma. Sigh.
 
In case you're wondering why I ever see Clay's hands, there's this one young guy, Jack Lowe, who as far as I know has only done stuff with Clay's studio, and sometimes I just like to look at Jack, and unfortunately, Clay is in the videos I've seen. Lowe reminds me of someone who never actually existed but was what I wanted when I was that age. Hmmm... I wonder if it's all associated with trauma. Sigh.
You got me curious Treb. He is cute. I’ve been wanting guys like him since before I was that age………..and way, way after too. :001_smile:

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And then there's that Clay guy's hands, who makes me want to gag every time I see them.
By the way, I assume that you know that “that Clay guy” was the director at Broke Straight Boys during the Broke Straight Boys-2 era starting in April 2011 through the move to Colorado and Broke Straight Boys-TV. It was during those years that many of the iconic models debuted. As creepy as we discovered that he was post-Broke Straight Boys, he is an important person in the history of this site.
 
Yes, that's right. I believe you might have been the one who told me of him, which is why I know his name at all.

I've liked the "Raunchy Bastards" clips I've seen that don't include him, which is similar to Broke Straight Boys in its presentation, so it isn't entirely Jack Lowe that has had me see his gross hands.

What I meant by trauma and not existing is that when I was a young man and catfished, the photo the guy gave me of himself (supposedly) as a young man looked similar to Jack Lowe. He also looks like the comic book superhero Cosmic Boy (of the Legion of Super-Heroes) who I really liked. NOT ASTRO BOY. Cosmic Boy. I get the feeling, Mike, you'd like Cosmic Boy's 1970s look.
 
Yes, that's right. I believe you might have been the one who told me of him, which is why I know his name at all.

I've liked the "Raunchy Bastards" clips I've seen that don't include him, which is similar to Broke Straight Boys in its presentation, so it isn't entirely Jack Lowe that has had me see his gross hands.

What I meant by trauma and not existing is that when I was a young man and catfished, the photo the guy gave me of himself (supposedly) as a young man looked similar to Jack Lowe. He also looks like the comic book superhero Cosmic Boy (of the Legion of Super-Heroes) who I really liked. NOT ASTRO BOY. Cosmic Boy. I get the feeling, Mike, you'd like Cosmic Boy's 1970s look.
Why on earth would you think I’d like him??? lol

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