OK, lets be honest about this Tyler thing!!!

[aquarius]

Hey Slim I cant exactaly remember that episode can you give me a date? Also I was just thinking on his behalf remember the last forum that he interacted with was Casper which could explain his feelings towards us. That and to my knowlage the only one of us that he has actually met would be Jason recently. And well we all know what that would be like. LOL Sorry Jason just kidding you know I love you. Anyway just a thought.

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Tyler and Ace - 9/7/2009 - Tyler had a date with a girl and needed the money. Ace kept balking and Tyler had to push to get him to cooperate. Slim's been on the gender kick trying to push, I guess for, droplets of information about him ever since he thinks he gleaned a clue to his name from a scene the other day. Those who know Tyler know if he were an ice cream he'd be the richest, brightest, creamiest vanilla imaginable. That's why he works his way into so many different fantasies. Vanilla goes with anything! Slim's just at that stage where he's got a vanilla obsession and he's building a freezer in his bedroom trying to crank out his own recipe!

 

[tampa24]

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Tyler and Ace - 9/7/2009 - Tyler had a date with a girl and needed the money. Ace kept balking and Tyler had to push to get him to cooperate.

That's the sanitized version of it.

 

[wantto]

That's the sanitized version of it.

You are right there Tampie...!!!

 

[slimvintage]

Apparently it was a guy he had a date with according to a forumite with an inferior ice cream machine to mine, but a good set of earphones. Go back, if you really want to know, and listen to what Tyler said about who was gonna suck his dick, I think it's at the end of the episode, where he laments mildly in passing that it now wouldn't be happening.

I, like Aquarius, just assumed he was talking about a meet with a chick, but that was questioned on the thread, the postulation being that he referred to his date using the term "guy". Since he was at that point saying he was bi it could easily have been either, so it may not be all that important knowing which anyway.

Finally, Tyler's shoot with Andy just now was, well, it was lovely. For a whole bunch of reasons. I don't feel like saying again why I like Tyler so much since it could rile people, so I'm just gonna repeat that I like him a lot. Andy too. I have a real soft spot in my heart for kids with those vaguely nerdy, gummy smiles. There's definitely a dose of blue-eyed Danny there, his beautiful limbs and pretty skin. Once warned not to snog with Ty he seemed to please him with his technique, plain vanilla though it might have been. It would be nice, since they get along, to have Andy's anal scene with Tyler.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Hey Slim,
Your right, the scene with Tyler and Andy was great. Do you think we can consider him redeemed and call his last scene a bad day. I like some other models better (Diesal, Jimmie, Austin, Mike, and Shane), but it seems this guy can't get a break this week.

 

[slimvintage]

Hey Slim I cant exactaly remember that episode can you give me a date? Also I was just thinking on his behalf remember the last forum that he interacted with was Casper which could explain his feelings towards us. That and to my knowlage the only one of us that he has actually met would be Jason recently. And well we all know what that would be like. LOL Sorry Jason just kidding you know I love you. Anyway just a thought.

It could easily be having lunch with Jayce that's turned him off definitively to the subscribers en masse.

Realistically however I'd take a step back and look at who we, as a group, actually seem to be: we're oldish, with some notable exceptions. We're consumers of porn, all of us, which means that our sex life either consists of real life contacts...with a partner or casual partners or fuckbuddies...plus the porn, or (I suspect in many cases) just the porn. Nor is it everyday well made Corbin Fisher/Bel Ami style gay porn, it's a bit darker. It's fetish porn where you pay to see an ostensibly heterosexual youth having to go through the extreme discomfort of sex with another guy who's in the same fix, in order to rake together money to pay down some of their debts. Or otherwise it's College Boy Physicals, where we pay to see the simulation of a doctor sexually abusing a young male patient.

Here on the forum we've made friends and maybe actually enemies (can you imagine? grown men and women?). We sign our posts "love" but we squabble and sometimes pout and flounce outta da building. In very rare cases we're actually naughty enough to be expelled from kindergarten.

On the basis of that description, and if we didn't know each other to be very much more than what I've described, we aren't necessarily, seen objectively, a very appetizing cohort.

Plus we're the punters. The punters who shell out to see the product. There might even be something denigrating in that. Empty lives and so forth. I have to think that sometimes David and Tyler must feel that the forum is more trouble than it's worth. And maybe that fluctuates depending on whether the feedback/creative element outweighs at any given time the nagging and the hassle.

Since I, unlike some of you, don't know Tyler personally I don't pretend to imagine where his disdain for the elderly fetishists who subscribe to Broke Straight Boys comes from, but it doesn't surprise me that he might possibly feel that way given a) all of the above and b) his tendency not to suffer fools gladly...But hey, so what? I wouldn't forgo any of it for anything.

 

[wantto]

Slim..once again I am in awe of your written word.

Some of it I don't know as I agree with me but to be honest I think you are an amazing guy who has such a wonderful nack for writing that would make even the best selling author jealous.

hug from the young at heart kiwi

 

[Denny Bear]

It could easily be having lunch with Jayce that's turned him off definitively to the subscribers en masse.

Realistically however I'd take a step back and look at who we, as a group, actually seem to be: we're oldish, with some notable exceptions. We're consumers of porn, all of us, which means that our sex life either consists of real life contacts...with a partner or casual partners or fuckbuddies...plus the porn, or (I suspect in many cases) just the porn. Nor is it everyday well made Corbin Fisher/Bel Ami style gay porn, it's a bit darker. It's fetish porn where you pay to see an ostensibly heterosexual youth having to go through the extreme discomfort of sex with another guy who's in the same fix, in order to rake together money to pay down some of their debts. Or otherwise it's College Boy Physicals, where we pay to see the simulation of a doctor sexually abusing a young male patient.

Here on the forum we've made friends and maybe actually enemies (can you imagine? grown men and women?). We sign our posts "love" but we squabble and sometimes pout and flounce outta da building. In very rare cases we're actually naughty enough to be expelled from kindergarten.

On the basis of that description, and if we didn't know each other to be very much more than what I've described, we aren't necessarily, seen objectively, a very appetizing cohort.

Plus we're the punters. The punters who shell out to see the product. There might even be something denigrating in that. Empty lives and so forth. I have to think that sometimes David and Tyler must feel that the forum is more trouble than it's worth. And maybe that fluctuates depending on whether the feedback/creative element outweighs at any given time the nagging and the hassle.

Since I, unlike some of you, don't know Tyler personally I don't pretend to imagine where his disdain for the elderly fetishists who subscribe to Broke Straight Boys comes from, but it doesn't surprise me that he might possibly feel that way given a) all of the above and b) his tendency not to suffer fools gladly...But hey, so what? I wouldn't forgo any of it for anything.

Slim you have a VERY GOOD POINT! When you put your self in the shoos of a twenty year old straight guy we do look pretty dam creepy. When you add to that our appearance seems to be older and our desires seem to be for younger, really adds to that creepiness.

Now the bad news. as much as I wanted to agree with you I just watched the Tyler Ace episode of 9/7 with head phones on. Sorry to say but I can not detect anything there that would hint to his going out that night with anything other then a girl. I fully agree he is at least bi and perhaps more but I just don't think we have evidence to prove it yet.

Also seriously I think Jayce is the only forum member to have met him in person where he knew he was talking to a forum member. He has been to a few stage events but he would have been in his stage person at the time and would not have known who the audience was anyway.

Your thoughts Watson?

 

[slimvintage]

Hey Slim,
Your right, the scene with Tyler and Andy was great. Do you think we can consider him redeemed and call his last scene a bad day. I like some other models better (Diesal, Jimmie, Austin, Mike, and Shane), but it seems this guy can't get a break this week.

Definitely redeemed, if indeed there's anything he needs to be redeemed from. I like all the models you mention, plus a bunch more, notably gay Mike (assuming you were referring to wild assed MikeR whom I also love a lot). But Tyler is my favorite. His vibe is so scratchy, he is so beautiful when he cums, and he's so mega bright. I can't get over Tyler even though I take a lot of flak for my obsession.

Listen girl, you should do the 10 Random Facts thread that Scorpio started more than a year ago. This place is a far better one with the advent of women, you are so terrifically welcome.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim you have a VERY GOOD POINT! When you put your self in the shoos of a twenty year old straight guy we do look pretty dam creepy. When you add to that our appearance seems to be older and our desires seem to be for younger, really adds to that creepiness.

Now the bad news. as much as I wanted to agree with you I just watched the Tyler Ace episode of 9/7 with head phones on. Sorry to say but I can not detect anything there that would hint to his going out that night with anything other then a girl. I fully agree he is at least bi and perhaps more but I just don't think we have evidence to prove it yet.

Also seriously I think Jayce is the only forum member to have met him in person where he knew he was talking to a forum member. He has been to a few stage events but he would have been in his stage person at the time and would not have known who the audience was anyway.

Your thoughts Watson?

Watson, my dear Sherlock, remembers another perspicacious forumite (Paris?) noticing and posting on the board that at the end of the video the person Tyler mentioned he was gonna meet for dinner (in more ways than one) was referred to as He/Him.

As far as Tyler's sexuality, that's his business only, obviously, but he's confirmed on film he's at least bi a number of times, most recently in today's video. I think he's a cute, straight acting, smartassed, terrifically interesting gay guy, but have only the kind of ambiguous references, half spoken inferences and creepy intuitions, that aquarius finds so irritating, to go on.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim..once again I am in awe of your written word.

Some of it I don't know as I agree with me but to be honest I think you are an amazing guy who has such a wonderful nack for writing that would make even the best selling author jealous.

hug from the young at heart kiwi

Dude, the rumor is that you are just as young in the flesh as you are at heart. That you are one of the notable exceptions, along with jon in Leeds.

And thanks for what you say. I love this message board because so many of the forumites post such interesting stuff couched in such varied and accomplished language. You made me laugh out loud at the idea of NZ lamb on the hoof liking the glow of candles. You manage so often to turn the perfect smile-making phrase in the course of your comments. It would be so droll to meet you man.

 

[aquarius]

Slim, that's exactly the nail on the head you hit. Tyler doesn't dislike anybody - even when he says something negative about someone, it's done like the 'enabling' line, as the gentlest 'rib' meant more to be funny than disrespectful. He turns 21 this year but he's been 21 for a long time. He 'emancipated' himself as an adult when he took responsiblity for the completion of his education, his employment and his future. He surrounds himself with a small group of people who care very deeply for him and he, in turn, cares very deeply for them. I've never felt he distrusts the elderly. Afterall, some of his favorite people are elderly! I think, perhaps, it's the unearned adulation that disturbs him. At 19 having people fight for the privilege of paying money for your stained underwear is 'heady' but when, as this past year, the adultation takes a slightly threatening turn, it makes being the visible face of Broke Straight Boys a target instead of a poster and the adulation becomes less desirable. Then, those entrusted with his personal secrets become fewer, and those secrets become less accessible. And, the self protective elements of his personality, like the sharp wit and the inaccessibility, become more obvious. He's still Tyler; he's just growing up.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim, that's exactly the nail on the head you hit. Tyler doesn't dislike anybody - even when he says something negative about someone, it's done like the 'enabling' line, as the gentlest 'rib' meant more to be funny than disrespectful. He turns 21 this year but he's been 21 for a long time. He 'emancipated' himself as an adult when he took responsiblity for the completion of his education, his employment and his future. He surrounds himself with a small group of people who care very deeply for him and he, in turn, cares very deeply for them. I've never felt he distrusts the elderly. Afterall, some of his favorite people are elderly! I think, perhaps, it's the unearned adulation that disturbs him. At 19 having people fight for the privilege of paying money for your stained underwear is 'heady' but when, as this past year, the adultation takes a slightly threatening turn, it makes being the visible face of Broke Straight Boys a target instead of a poster and the adulation becomes less desirable. Then, those entrusted with his personal secrets become fewer, and those secrets become less accessible. And, the self protective elements of his personality, like the sharp wit and the inaccessibility, become more obvious. He's still Tyler; he's just growing up.

We both really like Tyler, you from being an integral part of his close-knit, small circle, me from the standpoint of a fan living in Europe, never likely to meet him. So it's inevitable that I should draw conclusions based on my readings of his personality as seen on Broke Straight Boys Again, if I've hit any nails on the head regarding Tyler, I think they have to do with precisely this innate impatience with large swathes of the bumbling human race. The dismissiveness isn't at all to do with his stardom nor what you say is his uneasiness at being tracked or stalked, or, as you say, his being threatened. It's because he sees the dorky, foolish side to people and is cool enough himself in so many ways that he just hasn't the time. Cliques are about people who see their own attributes, appearance, interests, prejudices and preferences reflected in the other members of the group. Tyler, to me, is so special that there are very few people who would actually qualify for his. And this shows. But as I say, as a fan and not a friend, I don't care.

 

[mikeyank]

Thanks for the interesting expalnation of american pop culture (i'm from europe). I quite guessed this but you explained it very well and now understand even better what is going on around Tyler. So, we will see what happends in 2-3 days and ... I may first come to read the posts before seeing the episodes

Enzo, check out the posts on this forum in the first seven hours since the new Tyler & Andy scene has been available, and you will see another example of how popular, or at least noteworthy a new Tyler project is here in Broke Straight Boys Land.

I had called him a Broke Straight Boys superstar, but others have referred to him as the face of Broke Straight Boys In either case, the forum does tend to get a tad more interesting when a new Tyler scene is released. I haven't yet even checked out his new scene, but I sure made sure to read the latest comments about our young hero or is it antihero?

 

[slimvintage]

Enzo, check out the posts on this forum in the first seven hours since the new Tyler & Andy scene has been available, and you will see another example of how popular, or at least noteworthy a new Tyler project is here in Broke Straight Boys Land.

I had called him a Broke Straight Boys superstar, but others have referred to him as the face of Broke Straight Boys In either case, the forum does tend to get a tad more interesting when a new Tyler scene is released. I haven't yet even checked out his new scene, but I sure made sure to read the latest comments about our young hero or is it antihero?

Mikeyank, the theme of this message to Lorenzo reminds me to answer another point aquarius raised: that anti-hero Tyler isn't how I described him (as being a bit irreverent about the aged pervs who inhabit the forum).

Aquarius, I don't mean that Tyler is anti-elderly. He thinks of himself, albeit ironically, as being almost (35 was it? or 45?) elderly himself, if you remember. I'm sure his level of conversation requires an interlocutor with experience and intelligence, and you get that in some really wonderful old people like you and me. What I was saying was that Tyler could be excused for being a bit creeped out by the stereotypical punter/forumite I described in that post: older chicken hawk fetish-porn addict. That's all I meant. You sometimes, in your eloquence, answer a slimvintage you imagine is there, having said things I didn't say; sort of using me as the hook to hang a thought on, a hook that bears only a superficial relation to the idea you mean to express. I love reading your posts, always; it's only sometimes that in the flow of your language you fall into occasional small non sequiturs of this kind, devices, if you will, to connect your post verbally although not necessarily conceptually to one you're answering. In a way it's a debating technique, to pick up a single word and take off on a riff of your own, interpreting the other guy's post as you need to do in order to say what you want to say. You do it a lot and I've taken to doing it on another message board sometimes, adding fluidity to the continuity from his post to mine. OK, deep breath. You've had a bad rap from a bunch of us bad boys on the forum. We were going to be friends at the beginning, and I, for not getting into an email account I wasn't using at the time, didn't find a lovely message from you till, actually, months after you sent it. Not at all the place to say this, but I want other people whom you feel are also hooligans like me, to know that I regret very much having fumbled the chance to correspond with you over the last year or so. And that I've said this to some of them just in the last few days. It only remained to say it to you as well.

 

[mactee]

Insightful!

The thing I liked the most was Jake really giving it his all. That spoke volumes to me about how comfortable he was with Tyler. So, I think all in all it was a great first shoot for Jake and a great learning experience for Tyler.

Jayman, I’m with you on this about Jake, in fact I think that this message is one of the best balanced message on this thread. I for one appreciate your insight on this.

 

[enzo]

Enzo, check out the posts on this forum in the first seven hours since the new Tyler & Andy scene has been available, and you will see another example of how popular, or at least noteworthy a new Tyler project is here in Broke Straight Boys Land.

I had called him a Broke Straight Boys superstar, but others have referred to him as the face of Broke Straight Boys In either case, the forum does tend to get a tad more interesting when a new Tyler scene is released. I haven't yet even checked out his new scene, but I sure made sure to read the latest comments about our young hero or is it antihero?

Mike, I checked the posts and also watched the scene twice because if I want to keep up all your debate around the Broke Straight Boys star, i better be know my subject

The scene was quite strange at the begining with a Tyler acting if he was alone with David in the room and become really interesting when Andy had to suck Tyler's dick. I always like to see how straight guys seem to discover that they may feel a lot of pleasure when doing something with a boy and Jake seemed quite incredulous.

As Tyler seem to have changed his behaviour since some scenes, I understand even better why a lot of you are making endless debates on what is going on. Having seen all Tyler episodes the last month because I am new, the difference between a tyler scene of 2009 and thoses ones are quite incredible. But this does not mean that they are not interesting. He seems to play the role of the old lad that knows everything and is just so confortable in the Broke Straight Boys studios that he acts like he was in his own home.

 

[enzo]

Really??? Do You Think So??
I think Tyler is a a star to alot of the member who have been here for a while, but I Strongly disagree that he is the "SuperStar". He brings alot of attention, this is true, but that does not a super star make.
To be perfectly honest and I dnt think this will be very popular, but i think if there is a SuperStar of Broke Straight Boys - then that title would go to Mr Austin Grant.. the quality that he produces far exceeds that of tyler, or any other model for that matter, and well yeah I am a bit bias cos I love a guy who kisses, and if i am honest he is the reason I became a member.... Diesal would be a very very close second!

Hey Enzo! Welcome - I am relativley new too, but very opinionated so like to make my mark on most threads! ha!


Peace and Love Johnny

Hey Johnny, thanks !
I think that if Tyler produce so much controverse and also so much posts, this shows clearly that he is a start. Now let's say that it can be called a "superstart" only when he will be known outsite Broke Straight Boys

By the way, I am new and Tyler is in my top 5. Really, he has something I never found in any other guy making such job.

 

[enzo]

Hey, Enzo, welcome to the forum. And you just got the full dose of the forum in a double blast. A bit of bias and a bit of bombast, wrapped up in pompous circumstance.

Where are you from? There are fun people here from all over with all kinds of tastes and all sorts of interests. Suggest you try the "10 things" thread to get an idea of who you're dealing with and give us an idea of who you are. A couple of the Broke Straight Boys models do a wonderful job of communicating with us and the 'interviews' and 'behind the scenes' sections are fun places to find out about folks.

As to how to 'jump into the pool' - the two most common methods are to (1) start from the first and work your way forward, which can lead to long, lost hours in front of the computer and inexplicable lapses of consciousness from exhaustion or (2) start from the top and go back on a need to know or a discovery basis - which can leave you feeling left out sometimes when a golden oldie pops up in discussion or comments. There are probably others, but, in true Broke Straight Boys Forum fashion dozens of other suggestions will popup in your correspondence as people get to know you.

In the meantime, as your UK neighbor, Johnny, says "Welcome!" Pull up a mouse and join the 'circle.'

Hi aquarius,

thanks for the advices and I will go for option 2, more simple I think. I'm from the tiny Switzerland

 

[enzo]

Enzo,

First welcome to the forum. Yes we do run the full spectrum of opinion on just about everything that gets flashed before our eyes.

I would strongly recommend that you view the episodes before reading your posts. If you read the posts first your personal expectation might not be meat because of what you read post wise. Go in open minded, then go to post.

I go one step further, I don't read the into that is provided. I want to see for myself before reading anything about the episode so I can evaluate soely on what I see, and not read.

Once again welcome to the forum,

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

Hi Vicekid,
Thank you and you made a point. Better first to make his own idea on a subject before being influenced by other. The episode was great but definitely not one I would watch often. I hope Andy will come back and be more confortable. Tyler did a great job in making a Broke Straight Boys tutorial to Andy, very much like an employee.. hum but well he is an employee

enzo