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You know, it has been too long since we had any good debates on here. I am going to stir the pot, just for the sake of seeing some good lively conversation.

Resolved:
Tyler is the most overrated model on Broke Straight Boys

You can all line up on the pro and con side of the dias.

As self proclaimed moderator, I will reserve comment until the end of the debate. No name calling, no hitting below the belt, just honest opinions with material facts to back them up if available.

To make it easier to sort out, please use the Thumb up and Thumb down Post Icons located beneath the message box on your screen to indicate whether you are pro or con.

Go!
 
You know, it has been too long since we had any good debates on here. I am going to stir the pot, just for the sake of seeing some good lively conversation.

Resolved:
Tyler is the most overrated model on Broke Straight Boys

You can all line up on the pro and con side of the dias.

As self proclaimed moderator, I will reserve comment until the end of the debate. No name calling, no hitting below the belt, just honest opinions with material facts to back them up if available.

To make it easier to sort out, please use the Thumb up and Thumb down Post Icons located beneath the message box on your screen to indicate whether you are pro or con.

Go!

Bullshit!!!

Ok, it's early in the morning. That's all I can cum up with. If you truly believe that about Tyler, nothing I say will change your mind.............
 
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Bullshit!!!

Well that was not quite the social and relevant discourse I was hoping for.
Care to elaborate?

And you do know that in a debate the Resolved statement is just the starting point for pro and con arguments and not a statement of fact? Nor is it necessarily the opinion of the moderator.
(My first introduction to formal debate was in fourth grade. The teacher has us line up pro and con on "George McGovern should be the next president" back in 1972.)
 
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Well that was not quite the social and relevant discourse I was hoping for.
Care to elaborate?

And you do know that in a debate the Resolved statement is just the starting point for pro and con arguments and not a statement of fact?

I did edit my original post. I'm not in the debating mood, but felt compelled to present my feelings on the statement.
 
Tyler

Just want to throw this out there. I'm betting that the real Tyler bears very little resemblance to the Tyler fantasy that has grown around him. I don't want to spoil the illusion, but seriously, the Tyler I read about in forum members writings seems to me to be more like their own personal fantasy guy. Nothing wrong with that. There is no way the real Tyler could possibly measure up to his forum image. I enjoy him. He's a gr8 cocksucker, has little gag reflex, is a better bottom than he is a top and gets into the video. As for him being 'gay for pay' I remember a video, a foursome, where he couldn't keep his eyes off Diesal's cock and finally David gave him permission to touch it. Can't say I blame him. I would really like to see he and Diesal one on one...pun intended.
 
I guess I will chime in here...Tyler has come a long way since first filming him. The Tyler that writes on the forum is the real Tyler...he doesn't post that much because he's tired of all the debates, mild insults and some of the crazy things that are posted on the forum. I told him to post...but don't take the threads seriously, he does come on a checks out the posts and reads them so he is aware of all the attention he gets.

In addition, Tyler has been overexposed on this site but members still like Tyler...in all the years we have been filming Broke Straight Boys, Tyler has received more fan responses then any other model. It use to be Taz, but Tyler is our number one most popular model. Although some have posted they are tired of seeing Tyler (and we understand) there are many that don't post on this forum and there are many on this forum that *Love* Tyler and want to continue seeing more of him.

Tyler only works with our studio and you can say he has a life time exclusive to our studio only, he refuses to work for other studios...and believe me, he has been approached by many producers and has been offered $$$$ to appear on other sites. His loyalty to Broke Straight Boys goes a long way and that is another reason why I keep on placing Tyler on the site. Like many of the Broke Straight Boys models, they come and go, disappear, don't want to film anymore or they go onto other studios and film somewhere else...but in Tyler's case, he's learning a career within the adult industry, going to school and you will be seeing a lot more of him behind the camera and doing more administration duties, but he will do a few scenes here and there for Broke Straight Boys to satisfy his fans.

Tyler is NOT your average model that you see on Broke Straight Boys :)
 
I guess I will chime in here...Tyler has come a long way since first filming him. The Tyler that writes on the forum is the real Tyler...he doesn't post that much because he's tired of all the debates, mild insults and some of the crazy things that are posted on the forum. I told him to post...but don't take the threads seriously, he does come on a checks out the posts and reads them so he is aware of all the attention he gets.

In addition, Tyler has been overexposed on this site but members still like Tyler...in all the years we have been filming Broke Straight Boys, Tyler has received more fan responses then any other model. It use to be Taz, but Tyler is our number one most popular model. Although some have posted they are tired of seeing Tyler (and we understand) there are many that don't post on this forum and there are many on this forum that *Love* Tyler and want to continue seeing more of him.

Tyler only works with our studio and you can say he has a life time exclusive to our studio only, he refuses to work for other studios...and believe me, he has been approached by many producers and has been offered $$$$ to appear on other sites. His loyalty to Broke Straight Boys goes a long way and that is another reason why I keep on placing Tyler on the site. Like many of the Broke Straight Boys models, they come and go, disappear, don't want to film anymore or they go onto other studios and film somewhere else...but in Tyler's case, he's learning a career within the adult industry, going to school and you will be seeing a lot more of him behind the camera and doing more administration duties, but he will do a few scenes here and there for Broke Straight Boys to satisfy his fans.

Tyler is NOT your average model that you see on Broke Straight Boys :)

David, I guess you know by now two things about me. One is that I'm a troublemaker and the other is that I'm completely hung up on the boy who goes by the name of Tyler Evans It's always been part of my nature to be a little subversive, but the idea that by contributing to any kind of disagreeable polemic on the forum, it's been to any degree my fault that ole Ty doesn't post here, that is just killing me man.

That's killing me, but the idea that he might be hitting the futon only now and then is too. I don't think the Tyler fans are so loyal because of what they imagine about him (this is just to answer the doubters above) but rather what they can see with their own eyes. Months ago I initiated a thread asking what was so special about him, and it's all about concrete moments, some lasting a nanosecond, that you've filmed, nothing to do with fantasy, nothing to do with wishful thinking.

The guy has this intense, charismatic presence even just sitting mute on the sofa, that is completely natural to him, unselfconscious and authentic. I posted yesterday somewhere that this video from nearly a year ago with Dustin and CJ, made me remember the breathtaking visual impact Tyler has on me. It's to do with the way he moves, the positions his skeleton allows his body to fall into, the structure of his skull and jaw, his facial reactions to what's going on around him, the lightning responses he has to now-or-never unscripted absurdities, his hand when he moves it over another guy's body, or his eyelashes when he looks down.

I was gonna private you, before I saw these posts, to suggest that you ask him if he'd like you to be his agent, and get him a screen test with a production company doing conventional feature length movies. He is so much more interesting than the current crop of actors his age. Whether he could hack the actual acting would be another thing, but his presence onscreen, filmed much the way you do, would be awesome even just being himself, no acting.

If not, please get him out from behind the camera soon. Thanks for your post, even though it got me personally really down.
 
I think that David explained the "Tyler phenomenon" here on Broke Straight Boys perfectly. There were many rock and roll groups, but only one Beatles. I believe that Tyler is a very unique character, and I am glad to read that he will be a part of Broke Straight Boys in many different ways, in the future. He is a keeper, and my all time favorite model as well.

Mike
 
Once again, I was not insulting Tyler, or trying to tarnish his image. I merely wanted to see some spirited discussion.

I thought by setting the topic as 'Tyler is overrated' would get some better play instead of something safe like 'the human body needs water' or 'Bill Gates is rich.'

I was hoping to hear from the folks who think Tyler is pasty and those that think he is pastry. From those that think Tyler is a great bottom and from those that think he is the bottom of the barrel. Is he a dream boy or a nightmare?

I guess that is not going to happen.
 
You will see more of Tyler in future episodes...but we do have to make room for the "new" Tyler's on Broke Straight Boys

-David

And that's a good thing. I love Tyler! I want to take him out to dinner..... (not happening :mad:) but as I have said on another thread:

"Tyler also seems to have a special relationship with Dave. I'm not saying anything like what some of you may be imagining but more of a mentor/mentee kind of thing. Maybe Tyler could end up being the next "Dave"."

Not a bad thing at all. We all love you David and Tyler could do a helluva lot worse than studying you and learning the biz. I do wish he would talk to us more, but I can understand not wanting to deal with our "neediness".

Anyway, Tyler is a loyal Broke Straight Boys who seems to be thinking about his future. No burn out and drugs, etc that goes with some parts of the biz. Let's give the boy his due and give him some space. Maybe then he'll feel free to come back to the land of forum.....

Jayce
 
You will see more of Tyler in future episodes...but we do have to make room for the "new" Tyler's on Broke Straight Boys

-David

You've got some great new Tylers David, but we still haven't seen the real new Tyler himself, with all that "muscle", 9 kilos of it. Have you filmed him yet with his new musclebunny bod?
 
Once again, I was not insulting Tyler, or trying to tarnish his image. I merely wanted to see some spirited discussion.

I thought by setting the topic as 'Tyler is overrated' would get some better play instead of something safe like 'the human body needs water' or 'Bill Gates is rich.'

I was hoping to hear from the folks who think Tyler is pasty and those that think he is pastry. From those that think Tyler is a great bottom and from those that think he is the bottom of the barrel. Is he a dream boy or a nightmare?

I guess that is not going to happen.

GreatLakes, I apologize for my blunt answer to your post this morning. I was grumpy when I woke up.

As you can see from our fellow posters, Tyler is a fave of a lot of us. David stated why Tyler doesn't post very often. I can't blame him.

Maybe your thread should have been "Broke Straight Boys" is overrated. Nah! Nothing good could come from that either! :001_smile:
 
You will be seeing Tyler in the Broke Straight Boys party series that is coming soon! I think the first part of that series will be shown in the next few updates. Its Tyler, Austin and Danny....after that, you will see him peforming the scene from the "pink sheets" auction that MarkyMark won....contact MarkyMark...he has the sheets and I think he sent them to someone on this site as a gift....I think?
 
Haha, bloody last time I try to get him to say it was my idea LOL!!!

You will be seeing Tyler in the Broke Straight Boys party series that is coming soon! I think the first part of that series will be shown in the next few updates. Its Tyler, Austin and Danny....after that, you will see him peforming the scene from the "pink sheets" auction that MarkyMark won....contact MarkyMark...he has the sheets and I think he sent them to someone on this site as a gift....I think?

Yeah, someone...it's a real mystery who it is that received Marky's awesome, generous and quite expensive present. Wasn't it was the forumite who invented the idea of the auctions in the first place, and who suggested that the straighties autograph and circle in felt tip their own DNA stains on the pink sheet? Can't remember now, but I think that's who it was. The man of the day however isn't him, isn't you Dave, nor even the hotties on the couch. It's Markymark.

This isn't the first present Marky's given after winning an auction. He did the same for Jayman as top bidder on another auction, remember? Marky's a totally awesome guy, and everything new we learn about him continues to confirm how authentically beatific he is. Some of us have concrete, physical proof of his kindness and generosity. Like a box that went from pornsville in Florida to California and then from there to an island off the coast of Spain. Marky took the time to put the original box into a new one, address it and organize UPS all while looking after Carl who'd come seriously down with a bug, at the same time as getting the lawn ready for a big Easter event he's throwing. In the box is the pink sheet from way back when, plus Logan's tightywhities and CJ's tartan boxers, a DVD of the shoot, and a photo of the three hotties at the signing ceremony (with their autographs, and circles in felt tip around their cum stains, on the sheet, right down to the last detail).

In the photo Tyler's wearing his desert khaki bermudas, but didn't give up his underarmour for the cause. He looks as seductively scrawny as ever, no 20 lbs. of muscle certainly...I might pvy. msg. him about the missing boxerbriefs lol...

Thank you so much Marky.
 
Yeah, someone...it's a real mystery who it is that received Marky's awesome, generous and quite expensive present. Wasn't it was the forumite who invented the idea of the auctions in the first place, and who suggested that the straighties autograph and circle in felt tip their own DNA stains on the pink sheet? Can't remember now, but I think that's who it was. The man of the day however isn't him, isn't you Dave, nor even the hotties on the couch. It's Markymark.

This isn't the first present Marky's given after winning an auction. He did the same for Jayman as top bidder on another auction, remember? Marky's a totally awesome guy, and everything new we learn about him continues to confirm how authentically beatific he is. Some of us have concrete, physical proof of his kindness and generosity. Like a box that went from pornsville in Florida to California and then from there to an island off the coast of Spain. Marky took the time to put the original box into a new one, address it and organize UPS all while looking after Carl who'd come seriously down with a bug, at the same time as getting the lawn ready for a big Easter event he's throwing. In the box is the pink sheet from way back when, plus Logan's tightywhities and CJ's tartan boxers, a DVD of the shoot, and a photo of the three hotties at the signing ceremony (with their autographs, and circles in felt tip around their cum stains, on the sheet, right down to the last detail).

In the photo Tyler's wearing his desert khaki bermudas, but didn't give up his underarmour for the cause. He looks as seductively scrawny as ever, no 20 lbs. of muscle certainly...I might pvy. msg. him about the missing boxerbriefs lol...

Thank you so much Marky.

LMAO, Slim!! Tyler must be ever so fond of his underarmour!

Marky truly is a gem! I wish Marky was here! I'd pinch his cheeks. All 4 of them!! :biggrin:
 
Yeah, someone...it's a real mystery who it is that received Marky's awesome, generous and quite expensive present. Wasn't it was the forumite who invented the idea of the auctions in the first place, and who suggested that the straighties autograph and circle in felt tip their own DNA stains on the pink sheet? Can't remember now, but I think that's who it was. The man of the day however isn't him, isn't you Dave, nor even the hotties on the couch. It's Markymark.

This isn't the first present Marky's given after winning an auction. He did the same for Jayman as top bidder on another auction, remember? Marky's a totally awesome guy, and everything new we learn about him continues to confirm how authentically beatific he is. Some of us have concrete, physical proof of his kindness and generosity. Like a box that went from pornsville in Florida to California and then from there to an island off the coast of Spain. Marky took the time to put the original box into a new one, address it and organize UPS all while looking after Carl who'd come seriously down with a bug, at the same time as getting the lawn ready for a big Easter event he's throwing. In the box is the pink sheet from way back when, plus Logan's tightywhities and CJ's tartan boxers, a DVD of the shoot, and a photo of the three hotties at the signing ceremony (with their autographs, and circles in felt tip around their cum stains, on the sheet, right down to the last detail).

In the photo Tyler's wearing his desert khaki bermudas, but didn't give up his underarmour for the cause. He looks as seductively scrawny as ever, no 20 lbs. of muscle certainly...I might pvy. msg. him about the missing boxerbriefs lol...

Thank you so much Marky.

Slim you said it all right there. Marky Mark is awesome anyway you look at it. I just love him... It is OK Carl it is strictly platonic. :001_smile:
 
MarkyMark is an AWESOME!!!! person. I would love to meet with him and chat and have coffee or dinner with him some day.

As for Tyler's UA underwear.....he says its to expensive to give away and he loves his UA undies!!! If I do an auction of Tyler's UA undies we would have to start the bid a bit higher so I can make the donation to the Human Society as well as purchase another pair of UA's for Tyler...LOL.
 
MarkyMark is an AWESOME!!!! person. I would love to meet with him and chat and have coffee or dinner with him some day.

As for Tyler's UA underwear.....he says its to expensive to give away and he loves his UA undies!!! If I do an auction of Tyler's UA undies we would have to start the bid a bit higher so I can make the donation to the Human Society as well as purchase another pair of UA's for Tyler...LOL.

Do I hear a $500.00 bid. LOL just kidding...:blush:
 
Do I hear a $500.00 bid. LOL just kidding...:blush:

Would i pay $500 for Tyler's used underwear, YES I WOULD. And i would double it if Tyler was still in them.
But it would make package and post a bitch. LOL.
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