Coronavirus

[tampa24]

Although we know (thankfully) that the entire U.S. population will not likely catch the disease, consider the 2.6% mortality rate number. In a country of roughly 330 million souls, at a mortality rate of 2.6%, if we extrapolated that absolute worst case scenario to the entire U.S. population that would come out to about 8.58 Million dead Americans.

That's why this Trump/Republican plan of lazy, do-nothing, no masks, no social distancing "herd immunity" is so dangerous.

From the Mayo Clinic: [Bold type and colored highlights are my own.]
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"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions."

Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

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So that math is pretty simple. All we have to do to achieve herd immunity is to let around 200 million people catch it. And we'll lose roughly only [200M x 2.6%] 5.2 million dead Americans.

Again, 5.2 million people dead in order to achieve the current Republican plan of herd immunity. But even that is misleading. Because the experts are saying that 200M have to catch it and survive. So how many more beyond 200M have to catch it (and die) in order to leave 200M living?

 

[SGVBOB]

while being rather silent in the forum, as I was away visiting family in CA. upon my return home, I felt ill and ended up going to the local ER, where I was diagnosed with Covid. The local hospital was not equipped to handle me, so I was transferred to a trauma center-NOT that I was critical-rather they did not have the medications in the facility to assist
LUCKILY I had a 'mild' case of it.
As I share all my experiences, they are NOT to elicit pity, but rather share in our world of things

Good health to all!

 

[tampa24]

Hi Bob,

I'm glad to hear that you do not have a really bad case of it. Good and better health to you also.

 

[kgmets]

Although we know (thankfully) that the entire U.S. population will not likely catch the disease, consider the 2.6% mortality rate number. In a country of roughly 330 million souls, at a mortality rate of 2.6%, if we extrapolated that absolute worst case scenario to the entire U.S. population that would come out to about 8.58 Million dead Americans.

That's why this Trump/Republican plan of lazy, do-nothing, no masks, no social distancing "herd immunity" is so dangerous.

From the Mayo Clinic: [Bold type and colored highlights are my own.]
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"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions."

Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

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So that math is pretty simple. All we have to do to achieve herd immunity is to let around 200 million people catch it. And we'll lose roughly only [200M x 2.6%] 5.2 million dead Americans.

Again, 5.2 million people dead in order to achieve the current Republican plan of herd immunity. But even that is misleading. Because the experts are saying that 200M have to catch it and survive. So how many more beyond 200M have to catch it (and die) in order to leave 200M living?

Excellent informative post! Also, Trump's delay the transition bullshit will literally result in increased infections and deaths in the period between now and when an effective vaccine is developed and mass distributed. And he could care less about it!

 

[kgmets]

while being rather silent in the forum, as I was away visiting family in CA. upon my return home, I felt ill and ended up going to the local ER, where I was diagnosed with Covid. The local hospital was not equipped to handle me, so I was transferred to a trauma center-NOT that I was critical-rather they did not have the medications in the facility to assist
LUCKILY I had a 'mild' case of it.
As I share all my experiences, they are NOT to elicit pity, but rather share in our world of things

Good health to all!

Welcome back, and I hope that you are feeling better.

 

[Jaybifla]

while being rather silent in the forum, as I was away visiting family in CA. upon my return home, I felt ill and ended up going to the local ER, where I was diagnosed with Covid. The local hospital was not equipped to handle me, so I was transferred to a trauma center-NOT that I was critical-rather they did not have the medications in the facility to assist
LUCKILY I had a 'mild' case of it.
As I share all my experiences, they are NOT to elicit pity, but rather share in our world of things

Good health to all!

Hope you are doing better. Good health to you as well. xo

 

[mikeyank]

while being rather silent in the forum, as I was away visiting family in CA. upon my return home, I felt ill and ended up going to the local ER, where I was diagnosed with Covid. The local hospital was not equipped to handle me, so I was transferred to a trauma center-NOT that I was critical-rather they did not have the medications in the facility to assist
LUCKILY I had a 'mild' case of it.
As I share all my experiences, they are NOT to elicit pity, but rather share in our world of things

Good health to all!

That is wonderful Bob that you have recovered and are back “home” on the forum. back my friend. And please stay healthy!

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

Glad to hear you are feeling better Bob.

 

[juanjo]

while being rather silent in the forum, as I was away visiting family in CA. upon my return home, I felt ill and ended up going to the local ER, where I was diagnosed with Covid. The local hospital was not equipped to handle me, so I was transferred to a trauma center-NOT that I was critical-rather they did not have the medications in the facility to assist
LUCKILY I had a 'mild' case of it.
As I share all my experiences, they are NOT to elicit pity, but rather share in our world of things

Good health to all!

I am sorry you had the misfortune of coming down with COVID. But I am it was only a mild case of it and hopefully with no long-term side effects. I have had several friends who were exposed and have come through. But I know others who were not so lucky. Thank you for sharing.

 

[mikeyank]

It looks like Thanksgiving this year will become a “super spreader” event throughout the country. This is definitely a year to remain only with those in your immediate family or circle of friends. We can give up one Thanksgiving and probably Christmas too to save lives. Hopefully the holiday season in 2021 will be a time to rejoice and really celebrate.

 

[tampa24]

I hope so. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for those of us who survive the pandemic that a vaccine could be distributed by spring. It would be wonderful to have next summer as a time of re-birth for our society as well as the country.

That does kind of tip you guys off to my thinking that we will not likely have a vaccine that's FDA approved, ready, and produced in large enough quantities for distribution in a massive country-wide inoculation program much before March or April. Perhaps longer. Plus, the storage temperature requirements for the latest vaccine in question are quite onerous, prohibitive and expensive. You can't just put them in a Coleman ice cooler or a 4x3 dorm room style fridge behind the counter of your local pharmacy, and call it a day.

 

[mikeyank]

My gut feeling is that 2021 will still be a rough year. I am hopeful that by the end of next year that things will settle down. But the early tests on the Pfizer vaccine are encouraging but not necessarily an end game.

 

[tampa24]

My gut feeling is that 2021 will still be a rough year. I am hopeful that by the end of next year that things will settle down. But the early tests on the Pfizer vaccine are encouraging but not necessarily an end game.

Yep.

 

[Jaybifla]

Vadim Black doing his part

 

[tampa24]

He always had such beautiful hazel/amber eyes.

 

[Repareur]

He always had such beautiful hazel/amber eyes.

Tampa, I’m glad to see you back. I hope you were just busy.

 

[juanjo]

My gut feeling is that 2021 will still be a rough year. I am hopeful that by the end of next year that things will settle down. But the early tests on the Pfizer vaccine are encouraging but not necessarily an end game.

I quite agree. It looks like we should have a vaccine rolling out soon and that should be in full production and distribution by April. That is good news. But the economy is in shambles and while it will start to come back, it will not just pop back as if nothing happened. It was already stalling before the epidemic hit because of Trump's trade wars and other nonsense. Add to that Trump's actions now to destabilize the country and delegitimize the elections and we have a situation in which half the country is going to fight the other half over any proposals to get things back on their feet. McConnell is already setting that up in the Senate. It may be 2022 or 2023 before things take on any semblance of normality, assuming they ever do.

 

[tampa24]

Tampa, I’m glad to see you back. I hope you were just busy.

Thanks Rep!

Unfortunately I have been having some health issues and some drama in my personal life. The dust hasn't all settled yet by far. But I'm doing a better in my emotional state and coping stages. haha So I'm back with a better outlook.

 

[tampa24]

I agree with you guys that the news on the vaccine front is certainly good news. It won't be an easy task getting over 300M people vaccinated. And quickly. But with D.C. soon to be under new management I'm hoping there will be some competent and intelligent grownups in charge who can successfully guide us out of the current mess we find ourselves in.

 

[Repareur]

Thanks Rep!

Unfortunately I have been having some health issues and some drama in my personal life. The dust hasn't all settled yet by far. But I'm doing a better in my emotional state and coping stages. haha So I'm back with a better outlook.

Tampa I wasn’t sure where to post this but we did notice you were gone for a few days. I’m glad to see you are back.