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Hahaha. What a bunch of fucking idiots.
Of course, no need to watch to no that. And whenever I hear of another one that dies while I don't condone their death I understand it & they are responsible for needless deaths & 1 hopes it leads to others getting vaccinated.
They sure show how empty their heads are. I'm sorry to be so cold about it. But you can almost hear the pebbles rolling around in their skulls. How did some of these people even graduate high school?
"People are having their DNA's wiped out." (From the vaccine.)
Uhh... If that were truly possible, I imagine that not only would death be instantaneous, but that a pile of slimey goo is all that would be left of them. haha
Uhh... If that were truly possible, I imagine that not only would death be instantaneous, but that a pile of slimey goo is all that would be left of them. haha
mikeyank
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mikeyank
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Since I began taking the New York City subways again after the peak of the pandemic in 2020, they have had these guidelines every six feet on subway platforms.
But last week, I saw this one in place of the usual sign on my local subway platform as I was on my way to work.
But last week, I saw this one in place of the usual sign on my local subway platform as I was on my way to work.
mikeyank
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I just made my appointment for my booster shot for next week. Being I am over 65, I now qualify legitimately although I know many people my age who've already gotten theirs by checking off on their applications that they are immuno compromised and no questions are asked. I was in no rush to "jump the line", but as long as it is available to me, I figured, why not? I was talking to a friend yesterday who is under 65 and she made an appointment. She said that she will feel safer to go to indoor events with the booster. I don't think that is accurate as the booster to my knowledge doesn't necessarily increase your immunity if you've had your two shots. It is only to give a boost for when the antibodies may begin to wear off. That is my belief anyway.
I do feel like life has largely returned to normal in my life. It is different for sure, but the fear and panic of a year ago seems to be in the rear view mirror. I sure hope it continues that way.
I do feel like life has largely returned to normal in my life. It is different for sure, but the fear and panic of a year ago seems to be in the rear view mirror. I sure hope it continues that way.
I wish I could feel that way buddy. But because I got a breakthrough infection in July, I don't feel bulletproof. And I have gotten the 3rd booster legitimately (since last month) because I qualified. I'd love to go see a Rays game at Tropicana Field. But right now? For me? In Florida? No way Jose'.
mikeyank
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It's interesting that most of my friends in my age range feel as you do Tampa, (even though you are a decade or more younger). I feel like I am right in the middle ground of disagreeing with the extremests who believe that the virus is still a left wing conspiracy, (the Trumpers) and many of my friends who still feel like they must live their lives in a protected bubble and refuse to eat inside of restaurants, or to go to a museum or any indoor event. I am definitely in the middle ground where I am cautious, I wear a mask in the subway, (which is the law), but my other friends will not even take the subway. I've been riding the subway again for over a year and feel fine with the mask on.
When the pandemic hit in early to mid March of 2020, (which is when Jay started this thread), my job closed down and I felt tired with a headache, a low fever and a loss of appetite for about two weeks in March of 2020 and then I felt fine again. Eventually during the summer of 2020 I got a physical and my blood test showed that I had the COVID antibodies, so indeed I did have the infection early on, but the symptoms were so mild that I did not even know it for sure, but I suspected that I did. So with the natural antibodies I was not in the great rush to get the vaccination last year but when the appointments opened up I received both shots and now I am getting the booster next week.
From everything I see on television and read is that well over 90% of the people who get seriously ill, and are hospitalized or even die from COVID are unvaccinated and that those who do get the break through cases usually have mild symptoms and then are fine again in a few weeks. And so I have gone to indoor restaurants and to museums and I especially have been doing outdoor activities, such as my walking tours and visits with friends to parks where I feel no need to wear a mask. In fact, I am going to The Bronx Zoo tomorrow, where there is a vaccination requirement for admittance, and after the zoo I am going to the Arthur Avenue section of the Bronx, close by for a nice Italian meal, (outside, but I am not afraid to eat inside if necessary). As I tell my friends and relatives who are much more cautious than I am, everyone has to do what makes them feel comfortable. I am just stating my level of comfort with being fully vaccinated and reasonably cautious is a pretty high level of comfort.
Mike I back your stance. As to me, I had a shot and the booster but being homebound and isolated I have the luxury of not having to confront this issue but again I understand your& Tampa's stances it is not any easy thing to deal with.
I agree Mikey that it's interesting that we have such different views right now. But there are a few differences. You live in a very highly vaxxed city and state. I do not. You also have a mostly Democratic state government, from the governor's office on down. I live in a redder state with lots of crazy anti-vaxxers. Our governor is a Republican dickhead who is trying to out-Trump-Trump. He's already measuring curtains for the Oval Office thinking he has a great shot to win the presidency in 2024. He has made it illegal in Florida to require proof of vaccination to enter businesses or public events. He (and the Republican state legislature) have also made it illegal to require mask mandates. Many top national businesses here post signs "recommending" masks for everyone entering their stores or premises. But they are not allowed to require them.
When I go into grocery stores, drug stores, etc, the number of masked people is only about 60%-70%. And sometimes many of the employees themselves at certain stores aren't wearing masks. All of this while the rate of Covid in Florida is still very high. Most of my local hospitals have cancelled all elective surgeries. So while I'm not going to exaggerate and say they're piling up bodies on street corners...Florida has still not gotten Covid or the Delta variant under control yet by far.
At a place like an indoor baseball stadium here where thousands of people are nursing $8 beers and eating expensive stadium food and snacks...I can pretty much count on only about 30-40% of the people there wearing masks. My county has a higher vaccination rate than most neighboring counties. In Pinellas County (where Tropicana Field is) the vaccination rate is 57%. Tampa (in Hillsborough County) unfortunately is only 51%. (And that's much better than the surrounding counties that are sometimes much lower.) Meanwhile, Queens County in New York is currently 70%.
So I don't see our differing views on caution in public places as you being right or me being wrong, or vice versa. You're swimmimng in a different stream up there with regards to public and political attitudes on masking, social distancing, vaccination rates, vaccine hesitancy, etc. I'm in a different political culture and public arena down here with regards to Covid. That's not to say that there aren't any liberal people down here who are fully vaxxed, wear masks faithfully and think nothing of going inside resturants and public places here in Florida. There are people here who aren't Trumpers at all who feel as you do about leading freer lives right now.
But I'm not there yet. And I'd feel a whole lot better if the vaccinationations rates here got much higher. But I'm not expecting it to happen. *Sigh* Most people have already made up their minds down here on the vaccine. There are very few unvaxxed people sitting on the fence trying to decide whether they will get it or not...or those just waiting for a "convenient" time to go get the shots.
When I go into grocery stores, drug stores, etc, the number of masked people is only about 60%-70%. And sometimes many of the employees themselves at certain stores aren't wearing masks. All of this while the rate of Covid in Florida is still very high. Most of my local hospitals have cancelled all elective surgeries. So while I'm not going to exaggerate and say they're piling up bodies on street corners...Florida has still not gotten Covid or the Delta variant under control yet by far.
At a place like an indoor baseball stadium here where thousands of people are nursing $8 beers and eating expensive stadium food and snacks...I can pretty much count on only about 30-40% of the people there wearing masks. My county has a higher vaccination rate than most neighboring counties. In Pinellas County (where Tropicana Field is) the vaccination rate is 57%. Tampa (in Hillsborough County) unfortunately is only 51%. (And that's much better than the surrounding counties that are sometimes much lower.) Meanwhile, Queens County in New York is currently 70%.
So I don't see our differing views on caution in public places as you being right or me being wrong, or vice versa. You're swimmimng in a different stream up there with regards to public and political attitudes on masking, social distancing, vaccination rates, vaccine hesitancy, etc. I'm in a different political culture and public arena down here with regards to Covid. That's not to say that there aren't any liberal people down here who are fully vaxxed, wear masks faithfully and think nothing of going inside resturants and public places here in Florida. There are people here who aren't Trumpers at all who feel as you do about leading freer lives right now.
But I'm not there yet. And I'd feel a whole lot better if the vaccinationations rates here got much higher. But I'm not expecting it to happen. *Sigh* Most people have already made up their minds down here on the vaccine. There are very few unvaxxed people sitting on the fence trying to decide whether they will get it or not...or those just waiting for a "convenient" time to go get the shots.
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Here's a great interactive map that shows current vaccintation rates around the country. And it's updated often.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/us-covid-vaccinations/
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/us-covid-vaccinations/
mikeyank
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I'm sorry if I came across as debating you Tampa in regard to who is right and who is wrong. And as I stated in my previous post, I have several friends who I went to college with and are the same age as me, 71, who also live in the Metropolitan New York City area who are fully vaccinated and they feel exactly as you do about their level of caution in leaving their homes. Two of them are married and one's wife feels the same as he does and they basically stay inside except for occasional trips to the store or to doctor's appointments. The other's wife is ten years younger and she basically goes out to do things without him. I agree that this is a very confusing period of time, and we all need to do what we feel comfortable with. We are still living in uncharted territory with this virus and the recommendations and the virus seem to change course rapidly. We all need to deal with our own level of comfort and no one is right or wrong, (except the anti-vaxer and anti mask nut cases. lol).
Oh. No buddy. I didn't take it as a debate of who was right or wrong. I was just trying to explain how we could both arrive at different conclusions at the current moment based on very diferent local circumstances. 
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