smoore29/kodaaa DEBUT SHOOT

[joninliverton]

Some people are still infatuated with seeing a guy or guys from the forum appear in front of the lens. I think that is why this situation and the Casper one, got out of hand as well as the behind the scenes pvts and phone calls. David is absolutely correct regarding models and their excursions into the land of the forum - appear before the cameras first, then chat to the members and not the other way around.

So the next time we have young guys posting pics of themselves and claiming to be the next Brent Corrigans, we should refer them to this thread.

 

[Jayman01]

Hey guys, I see this situation both as a model and as an employee. In my opinion, at the end of the day these boys are just DRAMA, DRAMA, DRAMA!! Much like David and some members have already said and I will reiterate here; these boys see a facade of what this company, site, and industry is on the inside. In no way shape or form are they prepared to be what they think they will become by doing some porn scenes. Not only are they not prepared for what they think will happen, but they quite obviously are greatly uneducated on the industry since they let themselves think for a second that either of them would ever become "porn stars", or that there is any way to have a career in this industry as a model. David tells every model that comes through our doors that this is only temporary whether you do scenes for a week or five years, one day it will end. One day we will ALL be either too fat, too ugly, too old or heaven forbid we might actually get a real job with benefits and an IRA and co-workers your not having sex with! (well, never mind that part!! HEHE). Being in this industry for a cumulative amount of almost three years, it is my opinion that there is no such thing as "porn stars" any longer. I know many people that would concur that have much more experience than I.

On both a personal and professional level these two not-so-potential models have thoroughly annoyed me. Maybe I'm saying a little too much here, maybe I'm just being a prick but this is what I said at our D&E meeting about a week ago on this subject;

These two boys have already caused our organization (BluMedia\D&E Productions) so much drama and headaches that several of us have had to take hours out of our working time to deal with them and there posts\rants. I know that at one point, certain legalities issues were questioned internally and we even had to contact our company lawyer for consultation on the matter. Just the fact that we even had to take time out of our days to have a meeting about two models who, quite frankly are simply average at best in my humble opinion, is just outrageous to me! Especially when you consider the fact that the bottom line is we are a business and we must profit, these boys are causing WAY too much drama considering we haven't even gotten content out of them, much less made any money. (anyone and everyone that has the littlest bit of business sense would agree) If this was happening with talent in mainstream entertainment; music, movies, television; they would have moved on to the next thing with a cute face and a little bit of skill so fast the talent's head would spin!!
Sorry to be the asshole, I don't know these boys personally for a second, but sometimes in this industry you need to take of the blinders caused by hot bodies and cute faces and see this shit for what it really is, get down to the nitty gritty and realize, there is a million boys+ that would walk on set, get their dicks hard, and cum. And take the check with no complaints. Nobody is special, not even me!

I welcome all of your opinions! Bring it on!

Sincerely,
Tyler Evans

Tyler thank you for sharing. Very well said. I have not had time to read all of the posts in here. However; as you and many others have said this is a tough industry. You are popular one minuet and a dud the next minuet. Bless your heart and thanks for keeping it real for everyone on the forum...

 

[Jayman01]

Those are great words of wisdom David. Thank you. So many times guys think that porn is the path to fame and fortune. But there are just too many sites and studios out there. For male porn "stars" in particular. It's almost impossible to become an established star in this industry. Viewers are looking many times for just the flavor of the month. Almost like top 40 on the radio.

Boy did you hit the nail on the head Tampa... I think that all anyone is saying to these guys is don't count your chicks before they hatch. There is a process to be a model on many of these sites. If by chance you do make it the fame is usually very short lived... I think both are very good looking. However; there is more to the sex industry than just good looks. I've been there done that got the T-shirt... These two guys really do have a lot of potential but they need to ground themselves first and get focused on what they really want out of life and follow their dreams.

I wish the best to them, Nameste...

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

Hey guys, I see this situation both as a model and as an employee. In my opinion, at the end of the day these boys are just DRAMA, DRAMA, DRAMA!! Much like David and some members have already said and I will reiterate here; these boys see a facade of what this company, site, and industry is on the inside. In no way shape or form are they prepared to be what they think they will become by doing some porn scenes. Not only are they not prepared for what they think will happen, but they quite obviously are greatly uneducated on the industry since they let themselves think for a second that either of them would ever become "porn stars", or that there is any way to have a career in this industry as a model. David tells every model that comes through our doors that this is only temporary whether you do scenes for a week or five years, one day it will end. One day we will ALL be either too fat, too ugly, too old or heaven forbid we might actually get a real job with benefits and an IRA and co-workers your not having sex with! (well, never mind that part!! HEHE). Being in this industry for a cumulative amount of almost three years, it is my opinion that there is no such thing as "porn stars" any longer. I know many people that would concur that have much more experience than I.

On both a personal and professional level these two not-so-potential models have thoroughly annoyed me. Maybe I'm saying a little too much here, maybe I'm just being a prick but this is what I said at our D&E meeting about a week ago on this subject;

These two boys have already caused our organization (BluMedia\D&E Productions) so much drama and headaches that several of us have had to take hours out of our working time to deal with them and there posts\rants. I know that at one point, certain legalities issues were questioned internally and we even had to contact our company lawyer for consultation on the matter. Just the fact that we even had to take time out of our days to have a meeting about two models who, quite frankly are simply average at best in my humble opinion, is just outrageous to me! Especially when you consider the fact that the bottom line is we are a business and we must profit, these boys are causing WAY too much drama considering we haven't even gotten content out of them, much less made any money. (anyone and everyone that has the littlest bit of business sense would agree) If this was happening with talent in mainstream entertainment; music, movies, television; they would have moved on to the next thing with a cute face and a little bit of skill so fast the talent's head would spin!!
Sorry to be the asshole, I don't know these boys personally for a second, but sometimes in this industry you need to take of the blinders caused by hot bodies and cute faces and see this shit for what it really is, get down to the nitty gritty and realize, there is a million boys+ that would walk on set, get their dicks hard, and cum. And take the check with no complaints. Nobody is special, not even me!

I welcome all of your opinions! Bring it on!

Sincerely,
Tyler Evans

Very well said Tyler. We have plenty of models to choose from so we can pick and choose. The ones with drama go to the back of the line.

Mark

 

[slimvintage]

Very well said Tyler. We have plenty of models to choose from so we can pick and choose. The ones with drama go to the back of the line.

Mark

I almost wasn't gonna say this, but have been thinking it for several days. The idea that "guys with drama" are unlikely to make it as BSBs is a pretty dismal prospect to me. Visions of Army Chris, in the ur-shoot, the pilot scene, mugging for the cam, a little out of control, being himself and having a good time, come to mind. That's how the hypothetical Steve and Kyle debut sounded like it might be gonna go down from their banter on the forum. It sounded like it was going to be 1) hot, 2) fun, 3) different, 4) edgy, 5) a brilliant move on management's part: finally to film two cute forumites, something that (despite all the boring soul searching and huffy pontificating that's gone down on this thread) is still a brilliant idea.

Maybe it's just a question of TMI, but the facts that I've gleaned from reading you guys is that a slightly loose cannon throws you, that you like your ponies tame, and that too much originality, or personality, or too many out of the box ideas, all fill you with unease.

I've said so many times in so many contexts that the paradigmatic structure of the product, Dave's voice and goofy banter, the futon set, the routine of the shoots, is phenomenal. That leaves us with the cool surprises, like the wicked dick torture in that amazing shoot with Preston and MRobbins, or the belt in Eric and Ross, William first trying to contain his bj-induced orgasm and then gratefully cumming in Rickie's mouth, Damien and the dreaded Marlin making a surprise semen sandwich a.k.a. a hug. Tyler himself, in his glory days on the couch, mercilessly and subtly taking the mickey out of Dave for being corny. Those are the tiny moments that make you smile out loud. With a bit of luck you'd have had a terrific one from the Weezy twins...

btw, it's a mistake to think that originality and high spirits=drama. Those teens got miffed when they were dissed, and one of them, unused to forum protocol, threw you guys a finger when you called him out for having too much fun.

Lose lose.

Anyway. Peace...

 

[joninliverton]

You're too nice Slim but Mark is dead right. The guys proved in various threads that they were going to be too high maintenance and the forum didn't help either by over encouraging them. This lead to them becoming somewhat mightier than the sword, which was a silly thing for them to believe. In the end the sword (being Mark, David and the rest of the team), cut them down and as far as this site is concerned they are probably now in the trash can.

It's a pity really because if they had applied to become models through the normal channels and been introduced to the forum via the futon, then maybe they would have ended up on our screens. It's a tough world out there and you learn by your mistakes: Hopefully these two guys have.

 

[wantto]

That leaves us with the cool surprises, like the wicked dick torture in that amazing shoot with Preston and MRobbins, or the belt in Eric and Ross, William first trying to contain his bj-induced orgasm and then gratefully cumming in Rickie's mouth,

Hey Slim, who is William? Which vid was this with Rickie....I think that sounds hot, a BJ induced orgasm with him cumming in his mouth, but I don't remember a William and Rickie vid, can you tell me which one that is and what date?????
I think I missed a hot one....ooohhhh no!!!!!!

 

[vicekid]

Hey Slim, who is William? Which vid was this with Rickie....I think that sounds hot, a BJ induced orgasm with him cumming in his mouth, but I don't remember a William and Rickie vid, can you tell me which one that is and what date?????
I think I missed a hot one....ooohhhh no!!!!!!

Wantto,

Go to page 17 Sept. 5 2007 and you will have cum to it. Ricky did more cum eating in his last vid on 16 Oct. 27. Those were good scenes with Ricky/william one of my favorites.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

 

[dande01]

Slim...I understand where you are coming from. But its not about hot boys, with great looks, and nice cocks.

It is what goes on behind the scenes when we are not filming.

We have to house them and Eddie and I don't run a "hostel" with wayward wannabe porn stars. I know its sounds nutty, but some of you have a very different imagine of Eddie and I. We live in a very nice area of Miami and we can't have boys running around our home and in our neighborhood like wild animals. We have to maintain law and order in our home. Many of these models are 18-20 years old and we can't have them drinking and drugging, we are not going to allow minors to drink and drug in our home under our watch.

We also can't have models that are immature and come here thinking that they are going to post and blog everything that goes on in my home. Models that do this and come to my home have a set of rules that they have to agree on.

Now, you can have models come to your home and act crazy and shit, and I'm sure many of our members would love to have a bunch of boys running around there house and having a party...but this gets old really fast, these boys don't put out, they are not interested in Eddie and I, its not about having sex off camera with the models, its not about doing drugs and partying with the models...and we are concerned about there safety.

We are ultimately responsible for these models that arrive, South Florida is a crazy town and there are a lot of wild nutty crazy people down here and its super easy to get into trouble down here. God forbid something happens and we have to contact there parents...this is a phone call we don't want to make.

Yes! its easy to site there in your homes...making statements regarding models and having this image of "David"....but you are not really thinking about the reality of having these boys in your home week after week. Feeding them and housing them each week.

 

[chase3398]

David..many thanks for the reality check. I have thought of the responsibility that rests or the shoulders or you and Eddie. It is a very serious side of what many do not consider a serious business. They see only the final product and don't stop to think of the work or all of the behind-the-scene activity that is required. My hat is off to you for accepting that responsibility and for doing your job so well.

 

[amcovtime]

This whole thing turned out to be a mess. I am not a fan of Tyler, but his post was great. These two have cause enough drama and frankly it is sad to see. I hope the best to them as they continue to look for the right fit. Sadly this may not be the right place. I would love to see Smoore and his sexy body some place. I will keep an eye out for you!
Kyle...Well I think it has been said enough times about the things you decided to say. You are young and will learn better. Calling a high school student imature is useless to me. We were all there before. Again, you will grow.

 

[dande01]

David..many thanks for the reality check. I have thought of the responsibility that rests or the shoulders or you and Eddie. It is a very serious side of what many do not consider a serious business. They see only the final product and don't stop to think of the work or all of the behind-the-scene activity that is required. My hat is off to you for accepting that responsibility and for doing your job so well.

Chase3398,

Thank you for realizing what we go through behind the scenes. We make a lot of personal sacrifices. I'm not complaining, Eddie and I both chose to have the boys stay in our home and we are okay with making this sacrifice, but please understand we really have to be careful who we allow in our home and open up our personal space too.

If Smoore29 & Kodaaa would have applied like normal models...they would have been here in no time filming....then we could have offered them free membership to the site and to post on this forum. But these two boys just got to excited in there own innocent way, not thinking, got all "giddy" like two school girls waiting for prom night.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim...I understand where you are coming from. But its not about hot boys, with great looks, and nice cocks.

It is what goes on behind the scenes when we are not filming.

We have to house them and Eddie and I don't run a "hostel" with wayward wannabe porn stars. I know its sounds nutty, but some of you have a very different imagine of Eddie and I. We live in a very nice area of Miami and we can't have boys running around our home and in our neighborhood like wild animals. We have to maintain law and order in our home. Many of these models are 18-20 years old and we can't have them drinking and drugging, we are not going to allow minors to drink and drug in our home under our watch.

We also can't have models that are immature and come here thinking that they are going to post and blog everything that goes on in my home. Models that do this and come to my home have a set of rules that they have to agree on.

Now, you can have models come to your home and act crazy and shit, and I'm sure many of our members would love to have a bunch of boys running around there house and having a party...but this gets old really fast, these boys don't put out, they are not interested in Eddie and I, its not about having sex off camera with the models, its not about doing drugs and partying with the models...and we are concerned about there safety.

We are ultimately responsible for these models that arrive, South Florida is a crazy town and there are a lot of wild nutty crazy people down here and its super easy to get into trouble down here. God forbid something happens and we have to contact there parents...this is a phone call we don't want to make.

Yes! its easy to site there in your homes...making statements regarding models and having this image of "David"....but you are not really thinking about the reality of having these boys in your home week after week. Feeding them and housing them each week.

Man, it sounds like a nightmare. I thought you and Eddie enjoyed their company, which I guess to some extent you must do since there are surely other ways to handle their accommodation. You always refer to the "casting couch" which I'm sure you know is Hollywood studio jargon for "exchanging a role in the production for sexual favors" lol. I know that any sex you and E. have with the models is strictly in front of the camera, but nonetheless I always like it when young guys come to stay with me, sex or no sex, and I was imagining that you did the same.

I think that what really scared you was the idea that smoore was gonna regale the forum with a blog about his awesome Dave and Eddie and Kyle and Moore Broke Straight Boys experience, minute by minute. I agree that you wouldn't have been comfortable with that. But as far as their being wild and scandalous in the neighborhood, that's far fetched. Smoore in his PMs is mature, realistic and intelligent. And he seems semi-in-charge-of Kodaaa. But whatever. Your own daily life has to come first and you'd have been uncomfortable with their being part of it. These guys have clearly been an eyeopener to you, and have allowed you to establish some rules regarding forumite futonites that weren't there before. So in that sense, great.

 

[slimvintage]

Is the forum silently recuperating from smoore and kodaaa? Is that why it's so monumentally boring in here? Or will it never be the same again...?

I miss them.

No, really I do.

 

[tampa24]

I miss them too Slim.... Since they left it has been dull.

 

[joninliverton]

Well if you posted more then it wouldn't be so dull.

 

[smoore29]

Hahahaha hey guys...lol
Slim I agree its hella boring in here now

 

[slimvintage]

Hahahaha hey guys...lol
Slim I agree its hella boring in here now

It can't be only the fact that you two badass hotties aren't doin' your chatty riffs any more, can it? There must be something else? Maybe the fact that healthcare might not get through the senate?

Tell us what you're up to. You've got your license, right?

 

[mikeyank]

Is the forum silently recuperating from smoore and kodaaa? Is that why it's so monumentally boring in here? Or will it never be the same again...?

I miss them.

No, really I do.

Hey Slim! You've been on this forum as long as I have, basically since day 1, and I'm sure that you can recall, as I have, several heated, passionate periods on the forum of debating and arguing, over various issues, (two of them caused by the same person under different screen names). And after the issue is diffused or the member in question banned, there is always a quiet period.

Smoore and Kodaaa certainly got the forum "rockin' and rollin'" for a while, and while I'm not sure I totally believe that they are exactly who they say they are, and that the whole "Let's put on a play", or "Let's meet up on the futon together" scenario was exactly what it was represented to be, it certainly made for lively discussion.

And as in the past, there is a quiet period after each skirmish has been diffused, but rest assured no permanent damage has been done. We have gotten past RSwain, Mitch, and Casper, as well as a few heated issues with guys still on the forum, this too shall pass.

And as Smoore and Kodaaa appear to still be on the forum, I hope they do not take offence to what I've said, but I don't think that you can say, "the forum will never be the same again". There will be another member of the forum who wants to appear on the futon, (as we have seen earlier today), and there will be another "controversial" episode that will "offend" some of the more sensitive members, so kick back and relax. I have faith that things will ratchet up again too, in due time. There seems to be an ebb and flow on the forum, and we seem to be in an in between period right now.

 

[dande01]

Hey Slim! You've been on this forum as long as I have, basically since day 1, and I'm sure that you can recall, as I have, several heated, passionate periods on the forum of debating and arguing, over various issues, (two of them caused by the same person under different screen names). And after the issue is diffused or the member in question banned, there is always a quiet period.

Smoore and Kodaaa certainly got the forum "rockin' and rollin'" for a while, and while I'm not sure I totally believe that they are exactly who they say they are, and that the whole "Let's put on a play", or "Let's meet up on the futon together" scenario was exactly what it was represented to be, it certainly made for lively discussion.

And as in the past, there is a quiet period after each skirmish has been diffused, but rest assured no permanent damage has been done. We have gotten past RSwain, Mitch, and Casper, as well as a few heated issues with guys still on the forum, this too shall pass.

And as Smoore and Kodaaa appear to still be on the forum, I hope they do not take offence to what I've said, but I don't think that you can say, "the forum will never be the same again". There will be another member of the forum who wants to appear on the futon, (as we have seen earlier today), and there will be another "controversial" episode that will "offend" some of the more sensitive members, so kick back and relax. I have faith that things will ratchet up again too, in due time. There seems to be an ebb and flow on the forum, and we seem to be in an in between period right now.

AMEN!!! to this statement.