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MissDeidra, my favorite BrendanFrancis quote is "No yesterdays are ever wasted for those who give themselves to today." You know, I always felt that women and gay men got along so well because they both understood the same urges - the same reason that men and lesbians understood each other. When I was in college I used to come home and find that my sister had been in my porn stash. You make it easy for me to understand what she got out of it. Maybe I need to start calling you 'l'il sis.' By the way, if Qwerty takes that strap on to Ashton - what would she say if we sneaked in to watch? It would all be in the name of science, of course. College Boy Physiology 101. Do you suppose we could get graduate credit for it? Of course, Ashton would have to take under-graduate credit, since he's the bottom! Snort.
 
Thank you for all you do from me as well. I love this site and this forum. If you are unsatisfied, then leave. Don't be nasty and shit talk, just go on your way. In the end, the world will keep on turning, and the rest of us will still be here watching straight guys get it on...and talking about it.

Here's the problem with that attitude (which I think is quite childish and immature, from anyone); those who are here are paying customers, and they have every right to complain about something. Whether the complaint is valid or not is an entirely different issue.

suppose you go to a high end restaurant, order a meal only to find that the bread is stale, the meat is overcooked and the peas are cold? would you expect the waiter to say tough shit?

Tell you what, pay my monthly subscription and I'll never bitch about anything on here again. No? Okay then I do have a right to complain-whether it's here or anywhere else.

Please note, I'm not taking on the issue again, only this woefully short sighted attitude that people seem to have.
 
Here's the problem with that attitude (which I think is quite childish and immature, from anyone); those who are here are paying customers, and they have every right to complain about something. Whether the complaint is valid or not is an entirely different issue.

suppose you go to a high end restaurant, order a meal only to find that the bread is stale, the meat is overcooked and the peas are cold? would you expect the waiter to say tough shit?

Tell you what, pay my monthly subscription and I'll never bitch about anything on here again. No? Okay then I do have a right to complain-whether it's here or anywhere else.

Please note, I'm not taking on the issue again, only this woefully short sighted attitude that people seem to have.

i get what both of you are talking about, totally, but i believe that there needs to be a happy medium between the two mentalities. in your example about i high end restaurant, im sure the "garcon" (as he would probably be called in a high class establishment) would be more than happy to listen to your complaint and address it as much as he can. they might have fresh bread baking, but you would still have to wait for it.

i think a lot of people are missing the fact that this change isnt just going to be HD. it is going to be stock full of new content from different models. they cant just scrap these scenes that we are seeing now as there was good money spent to make these scenes. they fly in these models as well as pay them, and i havent flown in a while but i guarantee you that plane tickets from anywhere are pretty expensive. this is not to mention feeding the models if they stay for a while. then you have to consider the cost of editing. editing even a simple scene takes a lot of time, i know from experience. the film classes i took in college would ask for a 5 minute scene as a finished process, but to get the shots you needed you would most likely have to shoot about 30 minutes of footage then pick the best angles and such. editing a 5 minute film can take up to 5-8 hours.

sorry i kind of got away from my point, what i was trying to say is that we will see better content after HD hits, just as you would get your bread after it comes out of the oven and cools enough to cut. and if people are still unhappy after HD launches then maybe they should get out. if you recieve your fresh bread that still just doesnt taste well in your opinion, you might be making an unreasonable request.

sorry i have worked in retail and customer service for the last 9 years of my life, and to hear people say "i am a paying customer and i want to be hear" just really doesnt mean much to me anymore. if you spend over 1k at target each week, that doesnt entitle you to stock holdings or some sort of special entitlement, it does however entitle you to go to therapy.
 
Here's the problem with that attitude (which I think is quite childish and immature, from anyone); those who are here are paying customers, and they have every right to complain about something. Whether the complaint is valid or not is an entirely different issue.

suppose you go to a high end restaurant, order a meal only to find that the bread is stale, the meat is overcooked and the peas are cold? would you expect the waiter to say tough shit?

Tell you what, pay my monthly subscription and I'll never bitch about anything on here again. No? Okay then I do have a right to complain-whether it's here or anywhere else.

Please note, I'm not taking on the issue again, only this woefully short sighted attitude that people seem to have.
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Miss Dierdre, please do not take that outburst to heart. You have every right to say what you said. In fact, he said you did, the management said you did, and the whole forum's been up in arms for a week arguing for the right to say what they think. So, I think you made a pretty good speech. Don't be frightened and don't let it scare you or drive you away.

As a matter of fact, just consider the source: bullies, braggarts, and bullshit artists all deal with life the same way: they scream at the top of their lungs. And in a restaurant, when something isn't to their satisfaction, they usually do it loudly and defiantly, because it's as much for the show as it is for the statement. See, what he wants you to think is that his membership fee, even though it's the same as yours, is so much more important than yours, and therefore you don't have any right to ask him to complain in a calmer voice, because he has a right to be heard and you must hear his complaint. You, on the other hand, have no right to say anything. But don't worry, he can't reach through the screen and grab you; he can't even turn the volkume up on his yelling. All he can do is make a bigger and bigger jerk out of himself by picking on peole who disagree with him. Now, let me explain to you what will happen. (1) He will write a response to jwglass reply and call him names and make fun of him (2) he'll fire off a really mean reply to me referring to how much he dislikes me and how hated I am and what a troublemaker I am because I don't take his crap (3) he'll send a PM to management complaining about how rude I was to him (4) they'll tell us to play nice, ignoring the fact, of course, that he was a real bastard to you (5) thing's will blow over for a day or two until someone else dares to cross his path and steps 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 will be repeated, probably with differernt characters and maybe with different issues, but that's how bullies work. You, on the other hand, will still be enjoying all your friends on the forum and they will be enjoying you. So, like I said, pay no attention to him. The real fun comes about once a month when he and his friends turn on each other. Now that's worth hanging around for.
 
I applaud but definitely don't envy all the time you spend listening to your members on this forum. Just that alone makes this site awesome. Rarely can one even walk into a local business and find someone who cares what you have to say. You're never going to please everyone and more then likely the members you do hear from probably will always find something to complain about. Hopefully it doesn't give you too much angst having to deal with them. I find it tough even just reading some of the BS you have to entertain on here. Everyone should appreciate the fact that you are here listening to your customers. Keep up the great work, I love this Site
 
In the past recent weeks, many members have voiced there opinions regarding our changes and when they are going to happen and the recent "boring" scenes that have been updated.

First, I want to thank all the members that are not impatient and understand what we are doing here on this site and the reason for this thread.


I'd like to make a quick analogy.

When I pull up to a drive-through window and order a Big Mac, I honestly don't give a shit that John Smith has to compile two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, pickles, cheese, onions, and a sesame seed bun. I just know that for $5.99, I get my Big Mac when I pull up to the second window.

My point is this - I respect your product and I can respect that you're busy. But saying "I'm busy" sounds more like a blow-off than an answer to most people. And if I EVER referred to my clients as "Pissed off and impatient" I'd get my ass fired. Granted, you have the benefit of being in a management position, but that doesn't make it any more or less professionally acceptable.

I personally don't have any issues with the current state of the site, as I don't even typically look at the videos. But the way the complaints, legitimate or not, are being handled is not up to par.

I'm not excited about being a ray of sunshine to each of my clients and I do occasionally murmur "Asshole!" when I hang up the phone. But that doesn't alter the fact that I have to listen to them bitch day in and day out without losing my cool. As management, we aren't paying our clients to act professionally to us. They're paying us to act professionally for them.

It's your business and you obviously have the right and ability to run it however you see fit. My point is that 99% of the things people are bitching about on here constantly could easily be extinguished with the right PR skills and attitude.
 
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Miss Dierdre, please do not take that outburst to heart. You have every right to say what you said. In fact, he said you did, the management said you did, and the whole forum's been up in arms for a week arguing for the right to say what they think. So, I think you made a pretty good speech. Don't be frightened and don't let it scare you or drive you away.

As a matter of fact, just consider the source: bullies, braggarts, and bullshit artists all deal with life the same way: they scream at the top of their lungs. And in a restaurant, when something isn't to their satisfaction, they usually do it loudly and defiantly, because it's as much for the show as it is for the statement. See, what he wants you to think is that his membership fee, even though it's the same as yours, is so much more important than yours, and therefore you don't have any right to ask him to complain in a calmer voice, because he has a right to be heard and you must hear his complaint. You, on the other hand, have no right to say anything. But don't worry, he can't reach through the screen and grab you; he can't even turn the volkume up on his yelling. All he can do is make a bigger and bigger jerk out of himself by picking on peole who disagree with him. Now, let me explain to you what will happen. (1) He will write a response to jwglass reply and call him names and make fun of him (2) he'll fire off a really mean reply to me referring to how much he dislikes me and how hated I am and what a troublemaker I am because I don't take his crap (3) he'll send a PM to management complaining about how rude I was to him (4) they'll tell us to play nice, ignoring the fact, of course, that he was a real bastard to you (5) thing's will blow over for a day or two until someone else dares to cross his path and steps 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 will be repeated, probably with differernt characters and maybe with different issues, but that's how bullies work. You, on the other hand, will still be enjoying all your friends on the forum and they will be enjoying you. So, like I said, pay no attention to him. The real fun comes about once a month when he and his friends turn on each other. Now that's worth hanging around for.

if he does make fun of me and call me names, i somewhat deserve it because of what i said to him on another forum. but yeah, i just tried to present my opinion in an objective way that would make sense, i totally didnt mean it to be rude or condescending
 
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Miss Dierdre, please do not take that outburst to heart. You have every right to say what you said. In fact, he said you did, the management said you did, and the whole forum's been up in arms for a week arguing for the right to say what they think. So, I think you made a pretty good speech. Don't be frightened and don't let it scare you or drive you away. Sure you have the right to say what you said, but I don't agree if you are unsatisfied you should leave. The mgmt team rely on unsatisfied members' input to help improve the site.
As a matter of fact, just consider the source: bullies, braggarts, and bullshit artists all deal with life the same way: they scream at the top of their lungs. And in a restaurant, when something isn't to their satisfaction, they usually do it loudly and defiantly, because it's as much for the show as it is for the statement. See, what he wants you to think is that his membership fee, even though it's the same as yours, is so much more important than yours, and therefore you don't have any right to ask him to complain in a calmer voice, because he has a right to be heard and you must hear his complaint. You, on the other hand, have no right to say anything. But don't worry, he can't reach through the screen and grab you; he can't even turn the volkume up on his yelling. All he can do is make a bigger and bigger jerk out of himself by picking on peole who disagree with him. Now, let me explain to you what will happen. (1) He will write a response to jwglass reply and call him names and make fun of him (2) he'll fire off a really mean reply to me referring to how much he dislikes me and how hated I am and what a troublemaker I am because I don't take his crap (3) he'll send a PM to management complaining about how rude I was to him (4) they'll tell us to play nice, ignoring the fact, of course, that he was a real bastard to you (5) thing's will blow over for a day or two until someone else dares to cross his path and steps 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 will be repeated, probably with differernt characters and maybe with different issues, but that's how bullies work. You, on the other hand, will still be enjoying all your friends on the forum and they will be enjoying you. So, like I said, pay no attention to him. The real fun comes about once a month when he and his friends turn on each other. Now that's worth hanging around for. Absolutely agree 100%

Keep posting Miss D
 
Some people just like to hear themselves talk and complain over and over. Ive been a member of other organizations mostly non sexual were this happens over and over. Its good to hear and get complaints or suggestions when they are in the spirit of being part of problem solving but what is discribed here is nastiness in their complaints which is never acceptable. I want to thank you for your hard work.I do appreciate it.
 
I'd like to make a quick analogy.

When I pull up to a drive-through window and order a Big Mac, I honestly don't give a shit that John Smith has to compile two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, pickles, cheese, onions, and a sesame seed bun. I just know that for $5.99, I get my Big Mac when I pull up to the second window.

My point is this - I respect your product and I can respect that you're busy. But saying "I'm busy" sounds more like a blow-off than an answer to most people. And if I EVER referred to my clients as "Pissed off and impatient" I'd get my ass fired. Granted, you have the benefit of being in a management position, but that doesn't make it any more or less professionally acceptable.

I personally don't have any issues with the current state of the site, as I don't even typically look at the videos. But the way the complaints, legitimate or not, are being handled is not up to par.

I'm not excited about being a ray of sunshine to each of my clients and I do occasionally murmur "Asshole!" when I hang up the phone. But that doesn't alter the fact that I have to listen to them bitch day in and day out without losing my cool. As management, we aren't paying our clients to act professionally to us. They're paying us to act professionally for them.

It's your business and you obviously have the right and ability to run it however you see fit. My point is that 99% of the things people are bitching about on here constantly could easily be extinguished with the right PR skills and attitude.

Finally an intelligent, well thought out post.

Especially this quote: As management, we aren't paying our clients to act professionally to us. They're paying us to act professionally for them.
Truer words were never spoken. In my job as a Mortgage Account Manager, I have to deal with people who sometimes are frustrated and angry with the company, and as a representative of the company I am to blame for all their woes, financial troubles and miseries. Guess what? I never take these things personally, I do my best to empathize and placate them and offer up the best possible client experience I can give them. Some will go away fully satisfied, while others I will never be able to satisy. I just move on to the next client.
I gotta say guys, and ladies, your definitions of rude, hurtful, threatening,bullies and pissed off are so different than mine, it makes me wonder just how thin skinned you, and management really are. I have read many of the threads, some several times, and have found nothing I would consider a threat, in the strictest sense of the word. What I did find was the comments (rantings?) of some PAYING Clients, a little frustrated with management and maybe not so satisfied with the product they are paying for.
What has made this whole issue an issue, is that the PC Police have emerged from wherever they were hiding and now feel the need to censor and condem anything that does not meet with it's approval. With the help of the PC Police, many of you now believe that management has been victimized and you have rushed to its side, to lick and heal its wounds, suffered at the hands o the thoughtless, greedy paying customers who had the audacity to request delivery of that which it was promised months ago. (yes I know that the new content now has a specific delivery date, but that is not the point of this post) -J
 
David,

I have read your post and thank you for sharing the upcoming changes with us. Bless your heart, being a senior member and seeing these issues come up over and over again starts to get annoying. I am delighted that you have set up some general guidelines for us to follow.

Sometimes it is hard to remind people that this is a porn fantasy site. The key word "fantasy." Having been a member almost since the forum opened I can attest that you have addressed these issues countless times. (Regarding the models being gay, how far the models are willing to go, and repeat models coming back.) Short of using sodium pentathol and a lie detector at the interview you all only have the models word. And only the person them self can decide whether or not they are straight, bi, gay, or even gay for pay.

I have been having sex off and on with a few guy friends since I was nine years old. Yet, I considered myself straight until I was twenty one. It did not matter that I would engage in the act of sex with a guy prior to that. I could not realize that I could love another guy until I was twenty one. To me, before that, all it was was getting off with a friend. Once I realized I could love another guy the way I could a woman I realized I was bisexual.

Secondly, when a guy comes to a gay studio to try to earn money to try their hand at gay porn says that they are pretty open to the idea of gay sex from the door. Their experiences on the futon can be very much their first experiences with someone of the same sex. Through sexual exploration on the futon some of these guys have learned new things about themselves and they have become more willing to progress with their experimentation while others still say hey this doesn't feel right to me. So, through their experiences they may discover if they are truly straight, gay, bi, or gay for pay...

Some of the models have stated on camera that kissing is too gay or too personal... Yet, I am among many different members who have made personal requests to have models come back for more. Hoping that they may want to do more on film. I personally have always applauded Broke Straight Boys's approach to never pressuring these guys to more than they are comfortable with. Ultimately, these guys need to go home and live with themselves. I think it must be hard enough to swallow, no pun intended, knowing that they not only sucked a cock for their first time but it is now caught on video tape for the whole world to see. Pushing these guys beyond their comfort zone isn't always the best thing for the models mental health and could cause long term trauma for some models.

I do commend Broke Straight Boys for their stand and for being true to their values and compassion for the well being of their models. Bless your hearts... I feel that you all have done your best to run a successful porn site while maintaining a sense of moral dignity and human compassion to the porn industry.

Thank you...:thumbup:
 
Here's the problem with that attitude (which I think is quite childish and immature, from anyone); those who are here are paying customers, and they have every right to complain about something. Whether the complaint is valid or not is an entirely different issue.

Like I said, I love this site/forum. I just want to say, a lot of people bitching here are all talk and no action. On the other hand I am having a fucking blast here. Everyone can have opinions, and my previous post was mine. I just don't single one person out, I'll call you all silly if that is what you are being.

That's all I am saying on this subject.
 
Well i just in from the pub and had a good read of this thread...
David thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed opener on this thread. you have a huge fan down here in New Zealand you know...I love your site. I love what you do....I mean hey you bought us Logan lol....nuff said!!:blushing:

I think what you say is spot on, we have been masters of our own destiny to a certain extent....we are kinda demanding at times aren't we...a bit like petulent teenagers...think we know it all and then get in a huff over the daftest thing and I am have to admit I have fallen into the category at times.

You guys absolutely rock with what you do.....you find these hot guys for us and make 3 updates a week available. I mean I have not been a member of a porn site before but I think that is dam good. If we don't like one then we only have to wait a maximum of 2 days and there is another one up and available. I don't know if you guys are going to continue that with the HD ones but if we only get 2 a week then we will still be bloody lucky.

We do get a little rowdy sometimes, bit like a rugby scrum really....we have to have a bit of rough and tumble now and again but we get over it and we are back to chillin out again.
I have been privaledged to chat to some amazing people on this site that I would never have been able to do if you didn't have the forum...so you pretty much have the site nailed as far as I am concerned.
So forgive us if at times we get a little over done.

thank you for everything you do....I love it here and thanks to the site I have access to intelligent and amazing people .... both models and forumites are all pretty dam fine as far as I am concerned.

Haha I still think that any post I make pales in comparison to a lot of the people on here I have to say but I don't mind that....I feel privaledged to keep company with people on the site...:wink:
 
Listen guys and gals, my post wasn't to insult anyone in particular...matter of fact I'm getting more positive response to my posts then negatives.

Some members are taking my text and placing words and assuming I'm calling our members names and insulting members, one member even stated that we are doing this because we know the site is going downhill and its a bunch of BS.

I don't understand why some people can read my post and take everything I wrote out of context...while others read and understand what I wrote. I wrote and started this post to give you guys a clear view of upcoming changes and what to expect in future episodes starting in March 31st. as well as give you guys some facts.

I'm not here to argue with you about models, repeat models, bad scenes...just because your a paying member we are all equals. Your fee that you pay, everyone pays the same and is watching the same porn on this site and has access to several bonus sites. We want to hear from our members the good, the bad and the ugly and every member has the right to voice there opinions. What *I* will not stand for is rudness to management, members calling us liars, making assumptions that are not true, accusing management of false accusations, members fighting with other members. Threatening that members are going to cancel memberships if they don't see a model or episode when "they" want to see it. This type of behavior will not be tolerated by *ME*.

If Mark wants to take the bashing and others in management wants to take the abuse, then address your issue to them directly but don't bash me and be rude to me when we are overall trying to work very hard to make this place a better place for everyone.

Of course we can't satisfy everyone and people are not going to like the changes...and perhaps some members are not going to like the new hotter models....but we are not able to satisfy everyone.

Years ago, my first career was the restaurant business. I was a waiter and also got into management. I was very lucky because the owner gave us carte blache to tell customers off...I worked in a seafood restaurant and I recall there was this older couple that would come into the restaurant at least 3X a week. They would only sit at my table and I would wait on them. They were a very nice couple...but everytime they would come in, they would complain about the same things over and over again. I would tell my manager and he would go to there table and speak to them. There complaint was that there red snapper wasn't really red snapper, my manager got to the point to show them the actual fish...but they were convinced in there mind, we switched the fish around. This couple came in all the time, so my manager did something extraordinary, he actually brought them into the kitchen and showed them there food cooking and getting prepared...but they still didn't believe. They continued to argue and complain and then they started getting rude with me and the manager and threaten never to come back to the restaurant again.

Now being a waiter and in the service industry, we (the manager and I) were very nice to them. The other staff members were also very nice to them...and they continued coming in being rude and bitter. After about serving them for about 2 years (I worked in this same place for over 6 years) I finally couldn't take it anymore and I kindly told them, if you don't like this restaurant and you think we are doing something to your food, this is South Florida there are many other seafood restaurants in town. I told them this very politely, and they got very insulted and complained to my manager...I thought Wow...I'm going to get fired...but no..to my surprise, my manager backed me up and told them not to come back here anymore. He outright told them we are tired of you coming to this establishment and complaining and being bitter and being rude. Of course they were even more insulted and stated, "THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT A PAYING CUSTOMER!!!!" and my manager along with the owner that new them for years kindly in a very polite voice told them. We appreciate your business but if you continue to come here and be rude and nasty and make false accusations that we are doing something to your food and you don't like it, then why do you come here 3X a week and eat here, if your not satisfied then take your business elsewhere, if you have a legitimate complaint and we can satisfy you, that is one thing...but we obviously can't satisfy your needs so we prefer to you leave then rather spoiling our other customers dinning experience here in this establishment with your rudness and your comments.

The couple left and we never saw them again. Days went by and other customers that also came to the establishment started telling me and the manager, "its about time you told off those bitter customers, for years coming in this restaurant as much as them I too was tired of hearing there complaints". The feedback we got from the other customers was very valuable to us at the time. Some customers even stated that they were so tired of coming into the restaurant and hearing them complain, they were decided NOT to come to the restaurant because of those customers. Overwhelmingly we got such a positive response from our core customers that we knew that we made the right decision by telling those patrons not to come back anymore since we can't satisfy them.

A few months went by and all was well and business was normal. Then all of a sudden, the same couple came back...out of human nature we looked and went..."Oh! Lord, there back..." We couldn't believe our eyes...standing there was our nightmare customer...as the manager approached the door to create them, they took some time to cool off and they apologies to the manager and to myself and they realized that they were out of line and they realized how they treated us was wrong. I continued to wait on them for years...they invited me to there home for holidays and they became great friends...both husband and wife died...and I went to there funeral...but they ended up being a great couple and I will never forget them.

This is a true story and this actually happen to me when I was in my twenties when I worked in this establishment. Sometimes, you as members need to step back...cool down, chill out...take a deep breath and really think...this is porn..enjoy the site...we don't want any of our members to come here and have a bad experience but we have to be equal to everyone. We deal with thousands of members that voice there opinions, voice there pleasures and dislikes and each of us have different likes and dislikes and we all have to respect each other regardless if its members to members or management to members or members to management. Having a membership to this site doesn't give anyone the right to be rude, nasty or be threatening towards management.
 
David,
I would say some people find your post positive and other find it negative because people read things differently and have different views. I read it and thought 'WOW'! I was really put off by it. But at the same time I see it as your opinion. I will continue to say when I dislike something, as I know you welcome. I have never been rude about things. I dislike certain models...mainly two...but the site has a lot of other models that get my bells to ringing!
 
I also would like to point out a part of the post that was really...well...different for me. Below:
"Kissing
Rimming
Tops becoming Bottoms
Bottoms becoming Tops
Swallowing Cum
Bareback Sex

and any other type of sexual activity that a normal gay guy would do. Your not going to see this on Broke Straight Boys site."


Well putting a dick in your mouth is something a normal guy would do. Fucking or being fucked is also something a normal guy would do. I see some of the guys doing a bit more on something like College Boy Physicals (ie kissing rimming) that I do not see them do when on the futon. I guess what I am saying is that I do not think it is bad for us to want to see more. I understand that some guys wont go further, well ok. But I cant blame us for asking at the same time.

Oh my, I will shut up now. I am sure I have annoyed enough people.
 
David,

Thanks for sharing your resturant experience story. I have heard many like that from friends in the business. However it does get its point across.:001_smile:
 
Broke Straight Boys Management and behind the scenes peeps.

As a member that once went off on a tirade about a problem that could never be fixed Iunderstand your side of the fence so to speak, but as a business you need to understand your customers and appreciate both the good comments as well as the bad. That is what business is all about.
I am very pleased with what you offer and look forward to the changes. I only wish when someone from your company, whether it be David or Mark, they give a time frame. David has done this with the changeover to HD. Mark keeps mentioning changes but has not given a hint or when these changes will be, as a customer that could be perceived as stringing us along. Now, I do not see it that way because for the most part I am pleased with Broke Straight Boys I have made suggestions via the forum and email to David in the past. As it is his company, he can choose to use or ignore my suggestions. Iam down with that.
Basically what I am trying to say is it is Mark and Davids site, they can do what they feel is right. I just hope that they keep in mind that the customers can also do what they feel is right. if someone is so displeased then they should stop paying and go elsewhere. That is their choice.
So to Mark and David, keep up the good work continue to forge ahead on the course that you have charted!
 
David,
I would say some people find your post positive and other find it negative because people read things differently and have different views. I read it and thought 'WOW'! I was really put off by it. But at the same time I see it as your opinion. I will continue to say when I dislike something, as I know you welcome. I have never been rude about things. I dislike certain models...mainly two...but the site has a lot of other models that get my bells to ringing!

Which two? Just curious, friend :wink:.
 
Which two? Just curious, friend :wink:.

hmm...I will reserve one as I am sure most know and I dont want to upset people...But the other one is Austin. For some reason he just turns me off. he is cute and does a lot on the site but...Not sure. Maybe its the voice. lol. IDK
 
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