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Luigi Mangione arrested.

I only feel repulsion for that guy. And I really don't think he's all that. Was he shades darker or pounds heavier, I'm sure that many wouldn't find him so hot. I'm not blasting anyone on here but just speaking in general.

Murdering people, orphaning children is a huge turn-off for me. There are plenty of sane guys to lust after.
 
I feel bad for his children and I think what he did is terrible, but I also have a sick and twisted sense of humor. I can and will laugh at the most appalling of things. Especially if it’s sacrilegious humor.
 
I feel bad for his children and I think what he did is terrible, but I also have a sick and twisted sense of humor. I can and will laugh at the most appalling of things. Especially if it’s sacrilegious humor.
I’m right there with you Jay. Life in 2024 in America, and probably the world is so fucking bizarre and twisted in so many ways, one of the best ways of coping with all its absurdity is humor.

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I feel bad for his children and I think what he did is terrible, but I also have a sick and twisted sense of humor. I can and will laugh at the most appalling of things. Especially if it’s sacrilegious humor.

I too have a wee bit of a twisted sense of humor, and like me, you must be waiting with bated breath for the next 4 years then. There's gonna be lots of dark humor coming unfortunately 🫤 I just can't wait for the orange chee-zit's tariffs to be implemented and people that voted for him realize it's ultimately really a tax on them 🤣. I'm so so very lucky it probably won't affect me, but I really worry for my friends and family who are barely making ends meet now.
 
Interesting conversations with friends over the weekend. Several felt this man was just killing a man that has allowed millions of innocent people to die. Most feel he is a murderer killing another murderer.
 
Interesting conversations with friends over the weekend. Several felt this man was just killing a man that has allowed millions of innocent people to die. Most feel he is a murderer killing another murderer.

Kind of where I fall to be honest. Though vigilantism is wrong, it is hard to find sympathy for Thompson he no doubt knew the results of his companies policies.
 
I'm feeling kind of distraught over this. I am all for legitimate self-defence as defined by the law, self-defence in a time of war and violent oppression, but in this case... It is not even known for sure that Mr. Thompson had all the decision-making, and there were bureaucrats and executives above him at the UnitedHealth Group. The complexity of it all seems to elude most people. I am not certain that Thompson could just snap his fingers, lower the monthly fees, and make all claims accepted.

Thompson stated on LinkedIn more than once that he was working on making healthcare more affordable, which tells me Mangione may not even have done his due diligence on that man.




How was Mangione wronged when he grew up in privilege, prestige, could afford to pay all his medical fees (he had back problems)—and was NOT a client of the United Healthcare? His family owns not one but two country clubs. Most of his supporters can’t even afford to go to a country club, let alone afford two! He could afford his medical fees, was not a UHC member, and CEO Brian Thompson did nothing to him personally. If Mangione suspected that Thompson was that corrupt and wanted to go about social justice, he should have remained on the non-violent path and looked into investigation for malpractice, fraud, an he could have initiated a class action (the UHC had already faced a class action, and even more such action would have borne fruit).

But no. He decided, as a citizen, to bypass the law and arbitrarily decide to give another citizen the death penalty, therefore seeing his life as more valuable (all citizens are equal despite social rank). He shot him at least three times in the back, left him for dead, to bleed out, and he then took off on his bike. Once again, it is not known for certain that Thompson was happy all those claims were denied, and the atrocity of that bloody shooting is frightening. It's demonic! Just watch the photos or the full video footage. Doesn't it give you the creeps? It certainly does give me that! I can feel the demonic atmosphere when I see that footage.

It's abominable! It's cold-blooded murder in the first degree! Premeditated and all, supposedly in order to effect societal/economical/political change, but that's not the way to go about those things in a civilized society. Anyone that agrees w/ that assassination cannot claim to wish to live in a civilized society. Nor can they claim to be in favour of gun control or be against insurrections and violent tweets!

Omar Mateen, the Pulse nightclub shooter, felt totally justified in his actions, believed he was doing God's will and the world a favour. He ended up massacring 49 and wounding 58. Thomas Matthew Crooks, who tried to assassinate Donald Trump, ended up killing a father of two, Corey Comperatore, in attendance, and he knew other people could have got shot. Allowing vigilante murder will only radicalize people of opposing views, and it'll be an endless carnage.

As as Owen Shroyer puts it, by turning Luigi Mangione into a sex symbol and a hero, criminals may be incentivized to further even more such carnage. And if anybody can choose to act that way, it's going to be Far West all over again! And what message does it send to the kids? Just commit bloody murder to solve grievances? And don't you think that CEOs will start fighting back?

One thing we can agree on, Mangione was quite a stupid criminal, not even covering his entire hands and face. May he spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. He could even get the death penalty (he decided to give to Thompson) on federal charges.
 
Here's an eye-opening podcast episode by Nancy Grace on this affair:


Nancy Grace and his guests confirm some of what I've arguing.
 
I know that he is the lowest of the low to murder the CEO in cold blood on the street in midtown Manhattan. But as much as I know I shouldn’t, I get automatically get a “tingle” down below every time I see him on TV. The dude is the scum of the earth, but at the same time he is HOT!!!

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@mikeyank Very honestly, I have absolutely no desire, no arousal for Luigi Mangione. I'm completely indifferent to his looks. There are millions upon millions of men that are just as handsome if not more, so why fancy him in particular? And no, I'd never climax to his photos like some are admittedly doing.

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See... Those three men were particularly handsome, sexually appealing... Jeffrey Dahmer especially—more so than Luigi Mangione. But they were all sadistic serial sex killers who even dismembered victims. That alone should end any consideration for their beauty or sex appeal.
 

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@mikeyank Very honestly, I have absolutely no desire, no arousal for Luigi Mangione. I'm completely indifferent to his looks. There are millions upon millions of men that are just as handsome if not more, so why fancy him in particular? And no, I'd never climax to his photos like some are admittedly doing.

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See... Those three men were particularly handsome, sexually appealing... Jeffrey Dahmer especially—more so than Luigi Mangione. But they were all sadistic serial sex killers who even dismembered victims. That alone should end any consideration for their beauty or sex appeal.
I completely agree and that is part of the human dichotomy, at least speaking for myself. I have my television on and I see the image of Luigi on my screen and my involuntary bodily reaction is a jolt of excitement until my brain tries to tell me, NO. He is a horrible evil man. But it’s hard to fight Mother Nature.

Again, I’m making no value judgement on him or his horrendous act of violence. Just saying that he physically is hot. That’s all. I’m sorry if my comments regarding my involuntary physical reaction offends you. It actually offends me too….
 
5lotham is 100% on Mangione's side. Terryfing!



This guy and other Mangione supporters are saying that they wish they committed that murder, but they wouldn't 'cause they're too afraid of losing their freedom. And since Mangione risked that freedom by committing that murder, he's a folk hero! They really don't get the CEO was not solely responsible for all the denied health claims. 5lotham admits it later on in the video. He says that Mangione did what he and others wished they could do but wouldn't do because of the consequence of incarceration.


Prometheus1962, another Mangione supporter, admitted the same thing to me (you don't need to log in to read it):



In other words, they wish they'd murder those CEOs but won't do it, of course, not to go to prison. But if some whackjob is gung ho enough to do it, they praise him as a Saint! WoW! What a bunch of nutty cowards!
 
5lotham is 100% on Mangione's side. Terryfing!



This guy and other Mangione supporters are saying that they wish they committed that murder, but they wouldn't 'cause they're too afraid of losing their freedom. And since Mangione risked that freedom by committing that murder, he's a folk hero! They really don't get the CEO was not solely responsible for all the denied health claims. 5lotham admits it later on in the video. He says that Mangione did what he and others wished they could do but wouldn't do because of the consequence of incarceration.


Prometheus1962, another Mangione supporter, admitted the same thing to me (you don't need to log in to read it):



In other words, they wish they'd murder those CEOs but won't do it, of course, not to go to prison. But if some whackjob is gung ho enough to do it, they praise him as a Saint! WoW! What a bunch of nutty cowards!
Are you angry at the people who aren’t sympathetic to this CEO? Genuine question. Just think of Luigi as Dexter.
 
Are you angry at the people who aren’t sympathetic to this CEO? Genuine question. Just think of Luigi as Dexter.
I'm angry at those who condone the murder. 5lotham actually condones the murder. He admits that he and other Mangione supporters would have loved to do it but do no want to get arrested. And when somebody is demented enough to do it, they praise that whackjob as some kind of Messiah, and it sends a terrible message to the youth, and it's an incentive for others to do the same.

Besides, I do not consider CEO Brian Thompson to be the bad guy. He was actually trying to change things, improve the system, cut out-of-pocket costs, make healthcare more affordable. He was actually one of the good guys who was murdered and left to bleed out on the street just because of his position. He was not solely responsible for all the claim denials; it's a lot more complex than that. What about the fees charged by the pharmaceutical companies, certain clinics, hospitals, and doctors? It doesn't make sense to hold Mr. Thompson responsible for all of that.


I am saddened his life was cut short in such a horrific, diabolical fashion. And what also hurts me is how his adolescent sons were orphaned, and his wife widowed during the Holidays! Luigi Mangione is scum for that, I find him repulsive, and I can't wait for his sons, Bryce and Dane, to look at Luigi straight in the eye in the courtoom.

In a nutshell, I condemn the murder with a passion, I strongly feel for Bryce and Dane, and I do not see Brian Thompson as a villain or a "guilty party."

Thompson did his best in an imperfect system, advocated for the cutting of out-of-pocket costs, and was executed by an extremist without any fair trial.

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I'm angry at those who condone the murder. 5lotham actually condones the murder. He admits that he and other Mangione supporters would have loved to do it but do no want to get arrested. And when somebody is demented enough to do it, they praise that whackjob as some kind of Messiah, and it sends a terrible message to the youth, and it's an incentive for others to do the same.

Besides, I do not consider CEO Brian Thompson to be the bad guy. He was actually trying to change things, improve the system, cut out-of-pocket costs, make healthcare more affordable. He was actually one of the good guys who was murdered and left to bleed out on the street just because of his position. He was not solely responsible for all the claim denials; it's a lot more complex than that. What about the fees charged by the pharmaceutical companies, certain clinics, hospitals, and doctors? It doesn't make sense to hold Mr. Thompson responsible for all of that.


I am saddened his life was cut short in such a horrific, diabolical fashion. And what also hurts me is how his adolescent sons were orphaned, and his wife widowed during the Holidays! Luigi Mangione is scum for that, I find him repulsive, and I can't wait for his sons, Bryce and Dane, to look at Luigi straight in the eye in the courtoom.

In a nutshell, I condemn the murder with a passion, I strongly feel for Bryce and Dane, and I do not see Brian Thompson as a villain or a "guilty party."

Thompson did his best in an imperfect system, advocated for the cutting of out-of-pocket costs, and was executed by an extremist without any fair trial.

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As I posted much earlier, I disagree with vigilantism. Thompson should not have been murdered. But I strongly disagree with your characterization of Thompson. You have no idea of his specific relationship with his family, nor do I. It is a fact that he and his wife have been separated for some years and he lived in a separate residence from his family. I do not doubt that his death has caused grief to his family but don't fit him with a halo. Thompson took over the Insurance division at UHC, including the pre-approval system. He instituted an AI-based system for reviewing claims. He started in 2021 and by early 2023, denials for care had more than doubled from 10.9 to 22.7. He also jacked profits up to the highest that division had ever seen. He received a huge bonus for that - over 50 million dollars.

One of the areas UHC is being investigated concerning, was the massive increase in denials for post-acute care for seniors and others suffering falls, strokes, or other medical events that require physical and speech therapy among other therapy once the acute event has passed. In other words, if you had a minor cerebral "incident" and needed speech therapy for six months, UHC might well have not approved it, stating that given your general health, pre and post-event, you would not benefit from the therapy. It is worth noting that denials can be appealed but 96% of people do not do so. However, those who do appeal, at least with UHC, have been successful in close to 90% of the appeals. There are also several class action lawsuits against UHC for Thompson's AI denials. as well as, his algorithm denying approval for expensive medication. Class action lawsuits are pending based upon UHC, under Thompson, instituting a series of procedures that made it more difficult for Medicate Advantage clients to receive pre-approval for therapy or medication and to deny payment of care after treatment even when it was originally approved or was an emergency treatment. An additional case had to do with UHC, under Thompson instituting a policy of not approving expensive medications and demanding that patients use medications that their doctors have stated were ineffective or no longer effective with that patient.

You pointed out some words Thompson posted. His actions speak louder than his words. Thompson went into a job to make it more profitable for the shareholders not beneficial to the policyholders. He made a lot of money, denying claims for treatment. He did not deserve to be shot down on the street like a dog but I shed no tears for him.
 
Your last paragraph is basically how I feel. He didn’t deserved to be shot down but I don’t really shed tears for him either. Everyone should take pride in what they do as an occupation. He wasn’t just some higher up in management. He was the CEO.
 
You pointed out some words Thompson posted. His actions speak louder than his words. Thompson went into a job to make it more profitable for the shareholders not beneficial to the policyholders. He made a lot of money, denying claims for treatment. He did not deserve to be shot down on the street like a dog but I shed no tears for him.

Your last paragraph is basically how I feel. He didn’t deserved to be shot down but I don’t really shed tears for him either. Everyone should take pride in what they do as an occupation. He wasn’t just some higher up in management. He was the CEO.

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This explains it all! Maybe his hands were tied!

The CEO, unless he owns the company, has bureaucrats and executives above him. Now, maybe he wasn't so innocent, but even then, Mangione (who was rich and not a client of the UHC) had no authority to appoint himself judge, jury and executioner, and just give him the death penalty without any fair trial.

Another thing that triggers me about this is the fact that society is already hyper-violent. So frantically violent already... And to see so many celebrating and condoning the murder, clamouring for even more such murders, makes it all feel unsafe!


Words of wisdom:

"If you celebrate someone gunning down a defenseless person in the street, then you advocate for a world in which this is an acceptable thing for anyone to do. You, in fact, advocate for a world in which a stranger can decide that you’re also a bad person, and gun you down in the street. In such a world, I promise you, your health insurance would cost much more," Bhogal wrote."

 
People on the right celebrated Kyle Rittenhouse. It’s an unfortunate thing that happened to the CEO of UHC, however, all kinds of people buy guns and kill innocent people everyday. Innocent children.
 
People on the right celebrated Kyle Rittenhouse. It’s an unfortunate thing that happened to the CEO of UHC, however, all kinds of people buy guns and kill innocent people everyday. Innocent children.

Kyle Rittenhouse acted in total self-defence. He was only there to protect a parking lot from looters. He then defended himself against three men who attacked him and tried to seize his weapon. The case went to trial, and he was fully acquitted.

Now, I don't believe that all acquittals are fair. George Zimmerman should have been convicted for killing Trayvon Martin. (George Zimmerman had specifically been instructed by the police not to follow him.) Jeronimo Yanez should have been convicted for killing Philando Castile. (Castile was stopped for a broken tail light. As required by the law, he told the cop that he had a gun in his glove box. And as he reached for his driver's licence, he received five bullets!) Philip "Mitch" Brailsford (the shooter) and Charles Langley (the verbal bully) should have convicted for killing Daniel Shaver (graphic video).
 
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