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Hey, whats up? its ya boy, Mike robbins! lol

Thanks David. I know I'm in the minority when I say that I would be totally cool with seeing Mr. Robbins do his same schtik for the next 3 years. He brought so much light and joy to every single scene he was in, even if they did all involve his using that amazing shaped dick on ass after ass after ass. Some BSBs you like because they are hot in themselves, some you like because they are good-in-bed and know how to suck, kiss, bottom and fuck, some you like because of their personalities, humor and intelligence. I rate MikeR right there with Logan, Tyler and Leon as combining all of those, being hot, smart and funny.

Could you negotiate with him on behalf of maybe a handful of us, for some way that we could stay in touch with him for a bit? I can understand that he was chuffed with such a huge fan base while he was a practicing Broke Straight Boys but maybe wants to put the forum behind him now that he's not, but a bunch of us would be grateful if we could stay in touch with him for just a while, almost only to say goodbye if nothing more.
 
We still have a lot of scenes of MikeR in the "can". Mike is a super cool guy on and off screen and he will be missed a lot.

Unfortunately, Mike was unable to re-invent himself and I'm sorry to say and I do apologies that all the scenes we have of him and the future scenes we have of MikeR, is all the same...just him topping another guy.

Don't get us wrong...its hot, but we can't keep on bringing back models that aren't willing to do more sexual experimentation and willing to push the envelope. Many of our members think just because a guy has sex with a guy, all our models are gay and we can argue this for years.

However, what many of our members don't now is that our "gay" models are not as gay as you all think and they are not willing to experiment with other guys and with themselves. As I stated in many past threads, how many times can we see the same model top another guy? How many times can we the same model bottom? If a model comes to our studio and limits themselves sexually, then we have no choice to let them go after a while.

Some models will stay. To answer some of your questions regarding Diesal, yes...Diesal will be bottoming again. Although he doesn't like it, he will do it because he knows the importance of every so often to "take one for the team" so our members will enjoy the site and its doesn't make Diesal stale and boring.

Models will be coming and going on this site.....this is the nature of the business...I feel bad...but this is the worse part of the business when we have to tell a model we can't film them anymore.
Thanks Pal.This is a very clear answer which explains everything.
Nonetheless, I will miss him as you and many members of the site but that's the way it goes and am realistic enough to understand.
Anyway looking forward to the scenes still to be updated with confidence in the Site.Keep on going!
 
Mike R, in his own words

There has been a lot of comment lately regarding Mike Robbins, and today Tampa reminded me that Mike was a frequent poster to this forum. In light of all the negative criticism of this model lately, I thought that it was a good idea to bring back Mike's personal "Stream-of-consciousness" thread for all of his fans and current detractors to read.

As I stated in another thread, Mike posted here right up through his dismissal by D&E. That includes the scenes that we have most recently viewed, and may include other's that we have not yet seen.

My position is that based on the writings of the real guy who acted on Broke Straight Boys, that he is not the "monster" that some have recently portrayed him to be, but instead he is a sweet, caring, sensitive young man, who is somewhat confused by his sexuality, and is trying to cope with life.

I would ask any of his detractors who view him, particularly in the latter stages of his modeling career here, as an egotistical, mean spirited guy to read through his posts here to us, his fans. I always saw him as a totally polite, respectful young man, who may have been going through a difficult period in his life, while he was doing gay porn, but nonetheless was always honest, forthright, and respectful of his gay fan base here.

I miss you Mike, and really hope that life is treating you well. You have a good heart, and deserve the best that life has to offer.
 
Thanks Mike for bringing this thread back. It's easy enough for all of us to pile on when he does scenes that we don't like. For all of the reasons we have already stated elsewhere. But here is where you see the true character of the man. He is a model who gave very generously of his time to his many, many fans.

I happen to know that he actually took the time to befriend another young member in private chat who was dealing with some deep personal issues. This young man was very grateful, to say the least, that someone had reached out to help him. And a model no less.

It is easy enough to watch some of his cringe inducing behavior onscreen and toss out labels and criticisms. In fairness though, if you read through some or all of this thread you will see a much more complex picture of the man. This is why he has so many defenders here on the forum. He had built up alot of goodwill among us. Myself included.
 
seeing this thread again makes me smile!
 
seeing this thread again makes me smile!
And you and I would break out into a full grin, if somehow we could get Mike to post on it once again, but I understand that's a fantasy that will not happen. But it is good to look back on one of my all time favorite models, and all around good guy's here on Broke Straight Boys :thumbup:
 
I have watched several of your videos Mike. I like them because of your great smile and sense of humor. You always make the scene fun. It was a pleasure to see you back with Nathan. Best Wishes.
 
I have watched several of your videos Mike. I like them because of your great smile and sense of humor. You always make the scene fun. It was a pleasure to see you back with Nathan. Best Wishes.
This is the other Mike's thread, Cum2me. I posted a "love letter" to Mikey that we saw today, so he can be found right here on the front page of the forum. :001_smile:
 
Thanks cum2me01 Im just myself on camera love to make people laugh and feel comfortable when shooting :D
 
There has been a lot of comment lately regarding Mike Robbins, and today Tampa reminded me that Mike was a frequent poster to this forum. In light of all the negative criticism of this model lately, I thought that it was a good idea to bring back Mike's personal "Stream-of-consciousness" thread for all of his fans and current detractors to read.

As I stated in another thread, Mike posted here right up through his dismissal by D&E. That includes the scenes that we have most recently viewed, and may include other's that we have not yet seen.

My position is that based on the writings of the real guy who acted on Broke Straight Boys, that he is not the "monster" that some have recently portrayed him to be, but instead he is a sweet, caring, sensitive young man, who is somewhat confused by his sexuality, and is trying to cope with life.

I would ask any of his detractors who view him, particularly in the latter stages of his modeling career here, as an egotistical, mean spirited guy to read through his posts here to us, his fans. I always saw him as a totally polite, respectful young man, who may have been going through a difficult period in his life, while he was doing gay porn, but nonetheless was always honest, forthright, and respectful of his gay fan base here.

I miss you Mike, and really hope that life is treating you well. You have a good heart, and deserve the best that life has to offer.

Mike, as always you bring up several very interesting and very true points.

Unfortunately, much like 'real' acting, these guys seem to have a tendency to become type-cast. We, the viewing audience begin to develop an opinion about a particular model that in time, others pick up on, to the extent that eventually more people pick up on those same opinions.

Since these scenes seem to have been filmed 6 or more months prior to being released on the site, by the time we have developed a particular opinion about a certain 'model', they may have come and gone months ago!

A good example is Leon: It seems like the last several weeks the majority of people can't stand his unkempt look, or for lack of a better description, what seems to be interpreted as a lack of overall good hygiene.

While that may or may not be true, it's really taken him down in terms of peoples' overall perception of him. While there are many who still find him hot, we can never discuss Leon of late without also discussing his lack of cleanliness or saying he has really let himself go. Of course his visibly dirty feet probably help elevate this overall perception.

So even though Leon started off very neat and tidy, with great hair that always seemed freshly cut and styled, as time went on his hair got worse and worse looking, and he looked more and more dirty and unkempt.

Unfortunately, this "dirty spell" (for lack of a better description) may have been over with several months ago, but we have no way of knowing because the current scenes that are being released were probably filmed in early to mid summer!

So by the time more and more people are starting to complain about this, it's really too late for him to 'correct' the issue and it will be hard for him to overcome peoples' previous losing patience with having him in scenes because of it!

And the same goes for Mike Robbins. Even though he seems to be a really nice guy in real life, his behaviour and attitude in the scenes make him seem really arrogant, and even kind of a jerk! But that may be the furthest thing from the truth! WE don't really have any way of knowing that, because he never changes that unlikeable character trait in front of the camera...even though once again these scenes were probably filmed months ago!

If scenes were released a lot sooner than they currently are, the models who want to remain on Broke Straight Boys may have time to actually make corrections to the things people are complaining about, and have a chance to really develop their popularity with the members (which = making them more marketable elsewhere if they choose to leave Broke Straight Boys and go on to other studios).

Someone should write a book on how to become a porn star, how to become popular as one, and most importantly, how to market yourself so that you are sought after by other studios for years to come instead of fizzling out like a flash in the pan.

I do think it's sad that Mike Robbins Broke Straight Boys career has ended the way it did. He really seemed like a really nice guy at first, but as his popularity grew, it SEEMED like his arrogance and confidence did too, and it became visible on camera to the extent that some people like myself started getting really bored with him. And I agree with David that it didn't help that he would never do anything except 1. get his dick sucked, 2. suck dick himself, and 3. top other guys. Never anything more than that, and after awhile that gets extremely boring.

This, after telling us on a thread somewhere that he considers himself probably to be bi sexual. Yet he refuses to kiss, and refuses to ever try bottoming for more than 5 seconds.

To be honest, I don't think a model has to bottom to stay popular though. Just some passion and kissing really helps! It's actually hot to many people (like Mike above I think) for some guys to partake in gay sex without actually ever bottoming. If you throw kissing and passion in, I'll bet their popularity would stay sky high as long as they didn't start getting cocky and arrogant.

Diesal has done that, most notably in his scenes with Jimmy, and his most recent scene with Shane, and I think that keeps Diesal as many of our "Broke Straight Boys darlings that we all love" list...whether or not he actually bottoms.

I do think it's sad that Mike Robbins was let go, but at the same time, I'm sure he was given PLENTY of opportunities to re-invent himself and he most likely declined every one of them. So at the end of the day, Mike Robbins made the decision himself. It's not like he was suddenly "fired without warning."

Same goes for Leon, I'll bet if he gets a haircut, gets a pedicure, shows up for his shoots clean shaven and not sporting 5 days of peach fuzz on his face not to mention pimples all over from having oily and unclean skin, people would quit complaining about it all the time!

Just my thoughts, and I'm sorry I haven't been posting much lately. My father passed away the last week of September so I've been dealing with that along with trying to get caught back up at work after being out for over a week.

Abe
 
Just my thoughts, and I'm sorry I haven't been posting much lately. My father passed away the last week of September so I've been dealing with that along with trying to get caught back up at work after being out for over a week.

Abe
I'm very sorry Abe, to learn of the loss of your father. I've gone through it with both of my parents, and no matter what the circumstances, it is never easy. I appeciate your sharing that very personal bit of information with your friends here. It is very sad.
 
Abe, hang in there. Many of us have been there too. I have lost both of my parents too. It is not easy dealing with this type of loss. Now more than ever is the time to focus on the positive memories and remember that he will always live on in your heart. He is only gone in the physical sense. I know you will always feel his presense in your life. Just take things slow and easy for now. Bless your heart I am praying for you and your family.:thumbup1:
 
Abe,

I'm so sorry to hear of your recent loss. I can only imagine how painful that must be, and my thoughts are with you.

Laura
 
Type-casting takes its toll

Mike, as always you bring up several very interesting and very true points.

Unfortunately, much like 'real' acting, these guys seem to have a tendency to become type-cast. We, the viewing audience begin to develop an opinion about a particular model that in time, others pick up on, to the extent that eventually more people pick up on those same opinions.

Since these scenes seem to have been filmed 6 or more months prior to being released on the site, by the time we have developed a particular opinion about a certain 'model', they may have come and gone months ago!

A good example is Leon: It seems like the last several weeks the majority of people can't stand his unkempt look, or for lack of a better description, what seems to be interpreted as a lack of overall good hygiene.

While that may or may not be true, it's really taken him down in terms of peoples' overall perception of him. While there are many who still find him hot, we can never discuss Leon of late without also discussing his lack of cleanliness or saying he has really let himself go. Of course his visibly dirty feet probably help elevate this overall perception.

So even though Leon started off very neat and tidy, with great hair that always seemed freshly cut and styled, as time went on his hair got worse and worse looking, and he looked more and more dirty and unkempt.

Unfortunately, this "dirty spell" (for lack of a better description) may have been over with several months ago, but we have no way of knowing because the current scenes that are being released were probably filmed in early to mid summer!

So by the time more and more people are starting to complain about this, it's really too late for him to 'correct' the issue and it will be hard for him to overcome peoples' previous losing patience with having him in scenes because of it!

And the same goes for Mike Robbins. Even though he seems to be a really nice guy in real life, his behaviour and attitude in the scenes make him seem really arrogant, and even kind of a jerk! But that may be the furthest thing from the truth! WE don't really have any way of knowing that, because he never changes that unlikeable character trait in front of the camera...even though once again these scenes were probably filmed months ago!

If scenes were released a lot sooner than they currently are, the models who want to remain on Broke Straight Boys may have time to actually make corrections to the things people are complaining about, and have a chance to really develop their popularity with the members (which = making them more marketable elsewhere if they choose to leave Broke Straight Boys and go on to other studios).

Someone should write a book on how to become a porn star, how to become popular as one, and most importantly, how to market yourself so that you are sought after by other studios for years to come instead of fizzling out like a flash in the pan.

I do think it's sad that Mike Robbins Broke Straight Boys career has ended the way it did. He really seemed like a really nice guy at first, but as his popularity grew, it SEEMED like his arrogance and confidence did too, and it became visible on camera to the extent that some people like myself started getting really bored with him. And I agree with David that it didn't help that he would never do anything except 1. get his dick sucked, 2. suck dick himself, and 3. top other guys. Never anything more than that, and after awhile that gets extremely boring.

This, after telling us on a thread somewhere that he considers himself probably to be bi sexual. Yet he refuses to kiss, and refuses to ever try bottoming for more than 5 seconds.

To be honest, I don't think a model has to bottom to stay popular though. Just some passion and kissing really helps! It's actually hot to many people (like Mike above I think) for some guys to partake in gay sex without actually ever bottoming. If you throw kissing and passion in, I'll bet their popularity would stay sky high as long as they didn't start getting cocky and arrogant.

Diesal has done that, most notably in his scenes with Jimmy, and his most recent scene with Shane, and I think that keeps Diesal as many of our "Broke Straight Boys darlings that we all love" list...whether or not he actually bottoms.

I do think it's sad that Mike Robbins was let go, but at the same time, I'm sure he was given PLENTY of opportunities to re-invent himself and he most likely declined every one of them. So at the end of the day, Mike Robbins made the decision himself. It's not like he was suddenly "fired without warning."

Same goes for Leon, I'll bet if he gets a haircut, gets a pedicure, shows up for his shoots clean shaven and not sporting 5 days of peach fuzz on his face not to mention pimples all over from having oily and unclean skin, people would quit complaining about it all the time!

Just my thoughts, and I'm sorry I haven't been posting much lately. My father passed away the last week of September so I've been dealing with that along with trying to get caught back up at work after being out for over a week.

Abe

Dear Abe,

I always love your insightful posts, just like today's. Using the concept of being "type cast" opens up a new perspective on viewing Broke Straight Boys models over their career. I felt that MikeR was so highly praised and the object of so much Broke Straight Boys member attention, that ultimately, he only had one way to go + downward in the eyes of the membership. Several factors contributed to this such as his youthful cockiness, later on interpreted as his overall arrogance. What people don't remember is how most people early in their adult lives are self-absorbed and only seeing things in their immediate importance. Using others to achieve a goal is not that big a deal to them.

Leon is an even more curious meteor shower, career wise. He changed so much from his beginnings at Broke Straight Boys as a perfectionist/preppie to evolve into a deliberately passive-aggressive attitude(as reflected by his unkempt appearance and his aggressive style having anal sex. I don't think Broke Straight Boys was all that influenced this change. His marketing Medical marijuana most likely had more personal influences on his attitude as well. I know he has a right to live life as he wants, but it appears he has activated some self-destructive latent attitude and, frankly, doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks. Who would have ever thought this pristine perfectionistic intelligent young man with a gorgeous beautifully developed body would appear to have so little self-regard today.

Perhaps this is the consequence of their rising so quickly gaining "fame" and some inflated sense of self-importance too soon. I think as Broke Straight Boys members, we all had much higher hopes and expectations for these singularly charismatic and strikingly attractive young men. I guess we count too much on their outward beauty as guaranteed stepping stones to success.

Finally, Abe you don't owe us an apology as you did nothing wrong. You dealt with your family crisis and that surely has precedence over the forum. As adjusting to any death is a process, I hope you and your loved ones are well into this process of healing due to this loss. Healing takes time. God bless you!

Respectfully yours,

Cumrag27, aka Stimpy
 
Thanks everyone for your kind words, it's appreciated. My father had been ill for some time, so it was actually a blessing in a way that he is no longer suffering. He had just turned 65 in August, and to be honest we were all shocked that he lived as long as he did.

But I didn't mean to turn this thread into a conversation about that, and in fact I actually find it annoying when the conversation turns to something completely unrelated in a thread so since I'm the one guilty of doing that which I dislike when others do it, I will turn it back to the subject at hand so as not to annoy others. :)

Yes, it's unfortunate that Mike made the decision to basically shoot himself in the foot in terms of his once solid fan base. Not only due to his attitude on camera, but also his refusal to do anything more than fucking, getting sucked, and sucking. It does seem that Mike himself was getting bored with even those three things, as I've noticed his dick wasn't even half hard throughout much of some of his most recent scenes. Which would indicate to me that he's over it, lost interest in it, and doesn't enjoy doing it anymore. So it's probably best that he left the studio anyway, I'm assuming that it was actually a mutual decision.

Yes, with Leon, he has made the conscious decision to not give a crap about his appearance, and to be honest I hope he was given an ultimatum: Either clean yourself up at least on days where you're going to be shooting scenes, or be gone. No one wants to see dirty feet, nasty oily/unkempt hair, oily dirty skin and oozing pimples (ok not necessarily oozing, but they sometimes look like they're about to) on a porn site! This is Broke Straight Boys, not trailer trash r us.com. It is shocking what a visible tailspin Leon has made since his earlier appearances, and I hope that he gets some help if he is not well physically and emotionally!

But yes, back to my previous discussion regarding my opinions regarding these guys, I really think they have a tendency to become type cast.

I think it's one of the reasons that Austin Grant has left the biz altogether (although it appears he's making appearances at Broke Straight Boys events again). He was a flash in the pan for awhile, but then everyone got tired of seeing him everywhere in all the scenes filmed by all the studios (not including Falcon, and not including Dirk Yates/Active Duty). I'm curious how much of his early retirement was by choice, and how much of it was because he couldn't get work anymore because of extreme over-exposure. If he would have played his cards right, he could have probably had steady employment and banked a nice little nest egg for several more years to come, if not more than several as he aged and settled into more mature roles. But then after we've had a break from him, maybe he'll be back again on non-twink type sites.

There are several models here on Broke Straight Boys who have played their cards flawlessly, and they know how to reinvent themselves while not becoming over exposed at the same time. Guys like Logan, Diesal, and yes including Shane who has quietly but nicely timed appearances at various other paysites out there so as not to become just another studio whore that keeps getting hired back for more scenes due to availability and dependability (which may make it easier for production staff and those who hire them, but also makes for very boring porn and potential declining recurring billings due to people getting sick of the same old people in the same old scenes over and over again like a continuous looping same-movie that keeps getting replayed like a broken record).

Cousin Anthony was becoming dangerously close to becoming type cast and over exposed for awhile there, he was bottoming on nearly every site out there too for awhile, but fortunately that seems to have slowed down some and I haven't seen him anywhere but here for quite awhile now...which I'm glad of because I like him.

One character who seems to have busted himself out of the type-cast/jump the shark spiral while it was just starting to pick up momentum is Chasen! He was in several scenes on here, and was just becoming a household name on several other paysites out there as well when he suddenly started appearing in straight porn! His work can now be seen on Brazzers, as well as Reality Kings (their straight sites). Which I find fascinating, because as far as I know, men in straight porn are paid FAR less than their gay porn counterparts. I believe I heard somewhere that the typical male porn star is paid maybe a couple hundred bucks for doing a straight scene. Where their female co stars are paid thousands. But one of the things I find fascinating about straight porn, is the men are usually so into it and never have to fake passion. One, the last thing the producers and directors want to see in straight porn is the guy getting more attention than the girl. Which means NO FAKE MOANING! Which is a VERY good thing, since fake male moaning and men faking passion is among the most annoying things out there to me! It's right up there with cheesy, horrendous music that used to always accompany gay porn in the 80's and 90's. In straight porn, the men are considered nothing more than mere props, all the attention is paid to the women. So the men get to just be themselves, and fuck. No acting is really required (except prior to the fucking, to set up the scene...when sometimes it would be best to just go right into the fucking because most of these guys can't act their way out of a cardboard box).

Anyway, enough rambling for today.

Abe
 
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Dear Abe,

I am truly sorry for your loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.


You make so many excellent points on all of this. Dissecting the rise and fall of particular models...speaking to the boredom of seeing too many of the same faces too often... You're so right.

I agree with your thoughts on Leon. His path seems to be mirroring that of CJ. As far as showing up to work as a model at a very high paying job... looking like you just rolled out of bed...or just got back from the beach. Even just the issue of greasy, oily looking hair is a big, big turnoff to me. In real life and online. If your hygiene is poor because you are homeless I understand that and sympathize. But if your hygiene is poor because you are lazy...I have no patience for that. Soap, shampoo and toothpaste are not that expensive.

You go into such great detail of the issues confronting the site as well as the pitfalls confronting the models. I don't have nearly the time to enumerate all of them. Suffice to say though that I agree with you 100% on what you've said so far on this thread. Thank you Abe for some very well thought out points.
 
Thank you all for your kind words. I created a tribute to my father, and uploaded it as a private video on youtube for friends and family members. It's an "unlisted" one though, and given the issues that have occurred a couple months ago with members going outside the forum and contacting individual family and friends of Broke Straight Boys management, other members, and even Broke Straight Boys models, I won't be sharing the link.

The last thing in the world I would want someone to do would be to contact my family or anyone I know outside this forum, so it's only a matter of caution that I haven't shared this information. But in time, after I've had some time to heal, I will reach out to various members I have learned to trust on here via pm and share the link with them in case they may want to view it.

I consider many of you on the forum (and Broke Straight Boys management) friends of mine, even though we've never even met in person. And it means a lot that many of you have taken time out of our discussions of porn to wish me your condolences, it means a lot to me during this difficult time.

I won't say anything more about it on this thread, as I don't want us to get off track. But feel free to send me a pm any time if you'd like, and again I thank you all for your condolences.

Abe
 
RIP buddy
 
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