BSB Party Pt 1

[tucsonjayce]

I'm just trying to put out any fires...I started smelling some smoke and I don't want this post getting out of hand and running wild.

You'll just have to forgive us David, we are after all fans (derived from FANATIC). And especially so when Tyler is involved. He's our star!!

Thanks for being you!!!!!

Jayce

 

[morithrin]

Sorry if I started something, I did not mean in anyway to dispute or otherwise challenge anything that was written about the shoot. For now on I will take it for what it is and keep quite. I did not mean to hurt anyone to include David or Tyler. You two are great in what has been done here and I do not wish to begin anything that may cause any ruffled feathers.

 

[tampa24]

You and me both Brother!!!!! I mean it, crackers chips cotton candy ice cream hell they could eat a pot roast for all I care......... just spread um and let my tongue take a trek............

Money? Dinner? Shopping spree? What will it take? Not rich enough to buy them a car......... but I would manage something. Then Mikey (partner) would kill me and get all the insurance money. Oh well I would die a happy man!

Jayce

LOL Jayce. That's a suicide pact I could actually understand. What a way to go...doing what you loved best.

 

[tampa24]

I agree! I know the parties are fun and the boys had a great time...but I felt the boys were displayed like "meat"...but that is my opinion....since I'm very close with the boys, I asked them if it bothers them...but they enjoy it and have fun with the parties, so as long as the boys are having fun and nobody is harmed in the process...I am cool with the parties and it does not bother me.

Its up to the boys if they want to do the parties or not, we give them the choice. When we throw a Broke Straight Boys party, its done very professional and very safe. Patrick does a great job with the parties and makes sure the boys are safe and no harm and all is planned out in advance.

-David

Thanks David for sharing all that with us. It gives us insight into your good character as well. I love the fact that you (and Patrick) feel protective of your models just as the best mainstream fashion model agents would. There is a degree of exploitation in the business that goes on with all the models. I guess the thing that concerns us is to what extent it bothers the individual model.

I don't know if the models themselves realize how much, we as members, feel a protectiveness towards them. While we fully enjoy the carnal pleasures of seeing them perform, we also see them as human beings. It creates a bond where we feel that we must be their defenders. We would never want to see any of our favorite models (or any Broke Straight Boys models for that matter) humiliated. So as long as we know that you, Patrick and the rest of Blu are watching out for them it gives us much greater peace of mind. If things start happening at the shows that get out of hand or that certain models can't deal with, we certainly hope that you will allow those models to stop doing the shows without undue pressure. Or if a majority of the models are upset about how an event went down, that Patrick will make sure that things don't play out that way at future events.

I'm glad to know that the models are having fun with the shows. I certainly want to see the shows continue in the hopes that I'll be able to catch one of them myself someday. Please continue to look out for them David. You, Patrick, et al are their protectors. Your post helps put us much more at ease that you, D&E, and the rest of Blu take the responsibilty seriously.

Thanks again David!

 

[slimvintage]

Rifle suggests an interesting remedy to what Dave thinks of as forest fires. In fact there's no possible remedy and there really aren't any forest fires.

The very nature of the product obviates the possibility ever of being able to discuss successfully what's scripted, acted, and therefore theater, as apart from what's real, spontaneous and true, since each episode mixes inseparably the fantasy with the reality. I remember 6 months ago going on and on in a moderately pedantic fashion about Bradley's "willing suspension of disbelief" and saying that I love Broke Straight Boys because there ARE gaffes, fluffs, small incoherent absurdities in the montage, puzzling glances off stage by the boys, pseudonyms forgotten, all that stuff that I just absolutely love, all tied inextricably up with a porn shoot where these guys are being real guys, telling a version they are comfortable with, and can possibly remember for next time, of what their life is like at the moment.

I just wish everyone, including David, could look at Broke Straight Boys like that. You're totally involved in it, at the same time as being enough detached to laugh at the foibles and the fakery. I can use words like that because I really love this site. I did a talk about it to a bunch of sociology students a couple of months ago who were engaged in a creative writing seminar, and used it as an example of the successful mix of realityTV and fetish fantasy porn, with a strong dose of soap opera (in that the viewers, over time, become emotionally entangled in the ersatz lives of the protagonists).

Dave, no one minds when you step in to try to quell what you fear might turn into a nasty revolt among the terrifying forumites, but I wish we didn't feel as if we had to apologize for being perspicacious. Keep in mind that there are movie fanatics who collect inconsistencies in the filming, continuity and montage of multimillion buck feature films with emblematic names starring in them. They publish them online, exchange them with each other, argue about them, they LOVE them. I posted ages ago that I pay every month for the gravy, but also the lumps in the gravy. They both taste delicious to me, just delicious. I love your recipe dude. So do the arsonists

 

[mikeyank]

I did a talk about it to a bunch of sociology students a couple of months ago who were engaged in a creative writing seminar, and used it as an example of the successful mix of realityTV and fetish fantasy porn, with a strong dose of soap opera (in that the viewers, over time, become emotionally entangled in the ersatz lives of the protagonists).

Wish I could have been a fly on the wall in that sociology classroom. Or I would love to read a transcript of your lecture, Professor. I bet I would've Aced that course.

Mike

 

[slimvintage]

Wish I could have been a fly on the wall in that sociology classroom. Or I would love to read a transcript of your lecture, Professor. I bet I would've Aced that course.

Mike

You were part of the curriculum.

 

[dande01]

Rifle suggests an interesting remedy to what Dave thinks of as forest fires. In fact there's no possible remedy and there really aren't any forest fires.

The very nature of the product obviates the possibility ever of being able to discuss successfully what's scripted, acted, and therefore theater, as apart from what's real, spontaneous and true, since each episode mixes inseparably the fantasy with the reality. I remember 6 months ago going on and on in a moderately pedantic fashion about Bradley's "willing suspension of disbelief" and saying that I love Broke Straight Boys because there ARE gaffes, fluffs, small incoherent absurdities in the montage, puzzling glances off stage by the boys, pseudonyms forgotten, all that stuff that I just absolutely love, all tied inextricably up with a porn shoot where these guys are being real guys, telling a version they are comfortable with, and can possibly remember for next time, of what their life is like at the moment.

I just wish everyone, including David, could look at Broke Straight Boys like that. You're totally involved in it, at the same time as being enough detached to laugh at the foibles and the fakery. I can use words like that because I really love this site. I did a talk about it to a bunch of sociology students a couple of months ago who were engaged in a creative writing seminar, and used it as an example of the successful mix of realityTV and fetish fantasy porn, with a strong dose of soap opera (in that the viewers, over time, become emotionally entangled in the ersatz lives of the protagonists).

Dave, no one minds when you step in to try to quell what you fear might turn into a nasty revolt among the terrifying forumites, but I wish we didn't feel as if we had to apologize for being perspicacious. Keep in mind that there are movie fanatics who collect inconsistencies in the filming, continuity and montage of multimillion buck feature films with emblematic names starring in them. They publish them online, exchange them with each other, argue about them, they LOVE them. I posted ages ago that I pay every month for the gravy, but also the lumps in the gravy. They both taste delicious to me, just delicious. I love your recipe dude. So do the arsonists

Your right...Slim and I respect your viewpoint. I too like looking at "flubs" in movies..one that comes to mind is "Poltergeist" and that was a Steven Spielberg film...LOL. I guess I'm just an oddity when watching porn because when watching porn, I don't care if the models are looking off, or if they were a certain bracelet...or the description of the scene is wrong...I hate to read so I never read the description, I just go to the video and watch it. I don't care if the "advertised" banner displays a boy that is bottoming but the video shows him topping or if the episodes are out of order. I just watch porn for the mere sexual excitement of it. I really don't care if the models are straight gay or what the storyline is...I just like to watch hot boys getting it on.

If I wasn't filming it and I had no association to Broke Straight Boys, I would have joined just to watch Alden scenes....and a few others....but I wouldn't over analyze the site...I would take it as face value. I pay $30 per month, I get all these hot bonus sites plus this forum...I would enjoy all of it and not over analyze...I know its porn. I've been watching porn for years...I enjoy it...turn on, get off...then until next time.

I belonged only to one pay site...and that was a site called malephysical.com which for some reason is no more and it seem to go out of business...I was super upset...I knew the whole site was not real and the doc was not real...but I didn't over analyze the site and I could have ripped this apart being in the biz...but I didn't...I enjoyed it very much and went on my way.

I kind of forget that we live in a society were people get super passionate about a show, or program...look at all that follow american idol, or the show Lost...I'm hooked to a show called, "24" so I guess I'm just amazed that there are so many fans of Broke Straight Boys and myself and the models that at times I just don't realize...I do apologies for when I do get a bit upset. I guess Broke Straight Boys is like my "baby" and it hurts at times when I hear or start to read things that are just not true. Sorry for being over-protective.

-David

 

[raysvq]

Your right...Slim and I respect your viewpoint. I too like looking at "flubs" in movies..one that comes to mind is "Poltergeist" and that was a Steven Spielberg film...LOL. I guess I'm just an oddity when watching porn because when watching porn, I don't care if the models are looking off, or if they were a certain bracelet...or the description of the scene is wrong...I hate to read so I never read the description, I just go to the video and watch it. I don't care if the "advertised" banner displays a boy that is bottoming but the video shows him topping or if the episodes are out of order. I just watch porn for the mere sexual excitement of it. I really don't care if the models are straight gay or what the storyline is...I just like to watch hot boys getting it on.

-David

David you & I are totally simpatico on this. I don't read the description that often because I feel the action speaks for itself. Straight, Bi, Gay, Curious, etc it doesn't matter just the fact they are hot young guys getting it on so I can get off.

If I wasn't filming it and I had no association to Broke Straight Boys, I would have joined just to watch Alden scenes....and a few others....but I wouldn't over analyze the site...I would take it as face value. I pay $30 per month, I get all these hot bonus sites plus this forum...I would enjoy all of it and not over analyze...I know its porn. I've been watching porn for years...I enjoy it...turn on, get off...then until next time.

-David

I feel the same way about Sean aka Dr Topnbottom & Sean pre Dr Topnbottom.

I belonged only to one pay site...and that was a site called malephysical.com which for some reason is no more and it seem to go out of business...I was super upset...I knew the whole site was not real and the doc was not real...but I didn't over analyze the site and I could have ripped this apart being in the biz...but I didn't...I enjoyed it very much and went on my way.

I kind of forget that we live in a society were people get super passionate about a show, or program...look at all that follow american idol, or the show Lost...I'm hooked to a show called, "24" so I guess I'm just amazed that there are so many fans of Broke Straight Boys and myself and the models that at times I just don't realize...I do apologies for when I do get a bit upset. I guess Broke Straight Boys is like my "baby" and it hurts at times when I hear or start to read things that are just not true. Sorry for being over-protective.

-David

I feel you have a right to be protective, I would be the same if I was in your position.

Thanks David for the great times

 

[GreatLakes2]

I think the forum's attention to detail and the hot debates over reality vs fantasy are related to the quailty of this site.

If you go to Denny's, you are not going to care that the waitress pulls silverware out of her apron or that variety of greens in the side salad was banal. But when you go to a top notch restaurant, you look for the server to present you with silverware on a cloth-covered tray and you had better damn well see radichio and Belgian endive in your salad.

There was an old county song with the lyric: "If you never had Filet mignon, peanut butter tastes just fine."

You, David, are that superior dining establishment; you are the filet mignon of gay adult entertainment industry. (I shouldn't post on an empty stomach; I can only think in food metaphors.) And every detail about what you offer will be examined with a microscope. It is the price of a job well done. Remember, they say the winds are always the strongest at the top of the mountain. (Actually I not at all sure that 'they' say that. I think I just made it up.)

Also, because you and the crew do so well at making it look so easy, everyone thinks that they could do it better.

So David, my point, and I do have one, is while these debates wage on, be proud of the product you provide and the fact that this many people are actually this interested. Even though we do sound like Star Trek geeks arguing over Kirk vs Picard or that in episode 131, Sulu ran the transporter and pushed the slides the wrong direction. How that silly rice queen never blew up the whole ship I'll never know.

 

[mikeyank]

I kind of forget that we live in a society were people get super passionate about a show, or program...look at all that follow american idol, or the show Lost...I'm hooked to a show called, "24" so I guess I'm just amazed that there are so many fans of Broke Straight Boys and myself and the models that at times I just don't realize...I do apologies for when I do get a bit upset. I guess Broke Straight Boys is like my "baby" and it hurts at times when I hear or start to read things that are just not true. Sorry for being over-protective.

-David

Yes David, you and the site do have many loyal passionate fans, and the only reason we question things that we see here, is because we care. If I mention an inconsistency or question something in a scene, it is because I am passionate about it, and want to see what my fellow forum members think of the same thing. I have never said anything that in any way denigrates the site. Why would I? I love it.

And David, please don't compare your site to typical porn sites. In a plain old fuck scene in a typical porn, I don't care either if a model is looking offstage for direction, or flip flops from the description of the sex scene provided by the producer. But your site here is so much more than that, and as Slim has compared it to Reality TV, I do have to agree. So please accept any criticism or questions as a sign of love, because I love this site and I love you and all you do, (like touching Alden).

Mike

 

[tampa24]

I can't add much to what's already been said other than to ask David to try not to personalize these blooper debates too much. When we catch supposed mistakes or inconsistencies it gives us something to chat about. There is no malice or hostility towards you or the site in the vast majority of these conversations. If anyone is really that upset with the site it's very easy for them to leave.

These little squabbles among the reality purists and the fantasists will go on and on I'm sure. If you see a molehill that is turning into a mountain then please feel free to jump in and clarify something. Just as you would if we were debating a very lighthearted question about a scene or model that you have the answer to. But please don't do it out of a sense that you or the site is under attack. Nothing but luv for you David!

 

[tucsonjayce]

I can't add much to what's already been said other than to ask David to try not to personalize these blooper debates too much. When we catch supposed mistakes or inconsistencies it gives us something to chat about. There is no malice or hostility towards you or the site in the vast majority of these conversations. If anyone is really that upset with the site it's very easy for them to leave.

I just watched the College Boy Physicals 6 DVD and David included some bloopers at the end. They were hysterical. Maybe David could consider doing a blooper update? Or not as it might pop the "reality" fantasy. Anyway it's an idea.

We are Broke Straight Boys and College Boy Physicals fanatics. We're going to notice things and probably talk about them, after all that's really what the forum is all about. But if you think about it, there are only a relative few of us on here (the forum) considering the numbers of active vs registered forumites. And that doesn't even count all the other subscribers who don't come into the forum or log in as guests. I can only hope we aren't the 10% that takes up 90% of David and Mark's time.

I agree that 99.9% of us are enamored with one or more of the models and with David, Eddie and Mark (Scorpio, too to tell the truth) and wouldn't do anything to harm Broke Straight Boys, Blu or D&E. We care too much to do that. But the fact is that we do care - a lot.

Hoping everyone is well and in good spirits,

Jayce

 

[morithrin]

This is the first adult site that I have seen that has this strong of following and the respect from the memebers here on the forum is amazing. I am glad to be apart of this tight knit family. Thanks to everyone for their PMs to me, I appreciate the kind words. As for David, this is your baby and you have done well.

 

[dande01]

Wow! Guys thank you for the overwhelming response! To tell you guys the truth...I never belonged or watched online porn before. Although WE (Mark, myself, Eddie, and everyone involve) know the owners of Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody, Randy Blue and sites of that nature, I have never been a member of those sites...I've always been a DVD man myself...but since being in this biz and since DVD sales or in the garbage, I haven't really watched that much porn and I don't belong to any membership sites. As I stated before, I only belonged to one site I paid for and that was malephysical.com which no longer exists.

So I guess my question is: For those members belonging to other sites, what makes Broke Straight Boys differ from sites like circlejerkboys, or Corbin Fisher, Or Jake Cruise, Sean Cody, or amateur straight guys....boycrush and sites like these???

 

[mikeyank]

So I guess my question is: For those members belonging to other sites, what makes Broke Straight Boys differ from sites like circlejerkboys, or Corbin Fisher, Or Jake Cruise, Sean Cody, or amateur straight guys....boycrush and sites like these???

I couldn't answer that question, David, as I have never belonged to any of those sites. The only online sites that I have ever subscribed to before were Brandon Marley's site about straight guys, and Military Classified. I did not stick with either site as long as I have here. Broke Straight Boys has the hottest guys, and I love the "reality" aspect of the site with the interviews done expertly by David, and the forum helps keep my interest. I intend to remain here for the foreseeable future.

Your fan,

Mike

 

[slimvintage]

Wow! Guys thank you for the overwhelming response! To tell you guys the truth...I never belonged or watched online porn before. Although WE (Mark, myself, Eddie, and everyone involve) know the owners of Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody, Randy Blue and sites of that nature, I have never been a member of those sites...I've always been a DVD man myself...but since being in this biz and since DVD sales or in the garbage, I haven't really watched that much porn and I don't belong to any membership sites. As I stated before, I only belonged to one site I paid for and that was malephysical.com which no longer exists.

So I guess my question is: For those members belonging to other sites, what makes Broke Straight Boys differ from sites like circlejerkboys, or Corbin Fisher, Or Jake Cruise, Sean Cody, or amateur straight guys....boycrush and sites like these???

From what I understand the guys who buy Broke Straight Boys and one other site are usually also Corbin's clients. That's what reading the posts over time has led me to believe. CF is way slicker in every way than Broke Straight Boys Scorpio has been looking into adding some CF-style search devices to help us navigate this site more easily, compare notes, take advantage of heads up's from other forumites who are recommending episodes they find hot, or not, etc.

Broke Straight Boys is much more home video. The camera is a little jerky, the montage and continuity are sometimes startling, the interview is corny in a good way, the interaction is chummy and casual. Despite the fact that there's been thorough interviewing of the models beforehand, and maybe some scripting, nonetheless you get the feeling that anything could happen. Broke Straight Boys is totally un-slick. The set is basic sub-IKEA; the guys all have something "wrong" with them. If you've ever seen the boys from Bel Ami you'll know what I mean. Those guys are like something computer generated: blue eyed, tanned, manicured, uniformly hung, identical foreskins, perfect straightie faces, they're totally Disney in every way. Maybe a bit like CF guys. Our boys are all different shapes and sizes, with an awesome variety of body types ranging from Auschwitz to Weight Watchers. They're not all conventional, middle of the road mentalities either. You give them the opportunity to be a bit rad in the interview, and it sometimes pays off. They aren't IQ clones either. Some of them are obviously smarter than others. "Obviously" because you give them a chance to show their humor and their nous, or not.

David, I honestly still don't know if this adorable, clutzy, slightly corny product that you created is so loveable because you are the porn world's canniest and most strategic producer, or if it's because you are such a good guy, and do everything you do straight from your great big heart, that because of that, you just lucked into the formula.

That's partly because you've seemed a little baffled at times at what the forumites quibbles and comments actually represent. It's made me think you're the kind of artist who does the painting, enjoys the feeling that the creative act gives him, but doesn't actually know why it's so good. (For a while you were saying, look guys, chill, it's only porn; jack your fucking dicks and shut up already.)

We've come a long way since then. You are the creator of a sociological phenomenon fella. Congratulations?

 

[mikeyank]

If you've ever seen the boys from Bel Ami you'll know what I mean. Those guys are like something computer generated: blue eyed, tanned, manicured, uniformly hung, identical foreskins, perfect straightie faces, they're totally Disney in every way.

Slim, Your above quote is exactly what I find wrong with conventional gay porn. Bel Ami models and so many others are precisely that, "Disney" models. They seem as real as the "audio-animatronic figures" that Disney uses, handsome, perfectly proportioned, blemish free young studs. But they lack humanity. Take Alden, from Alden & Robert fame, for instance. He is one of the most appealing models on the site to me, but if I would analyze his body, I would want him to tone up a bit, but his "realness", to coin a phrase is part of his appeal, as are all the Broke Straight Boys We love them because they are real guys and not studio created robots.

Mike

 

[dande01]

"Auschwitz to Weight Watchers" LOL...that is too funny....

 

[raysvq]

Wow! Guys thank you for the overwhelming response! To tell you guys the truth...I never belonged or watched online porn before. Although WE (Mark, myself, Eddie, and everyone involve) know the owners of Corbin Fisher, Sean Cody, Randy Blue and sites of that nature, I have never been a member of those sites...I've always been a DVD man myself...but since being in this biz and since DVD sales or in the garbage, I haven't really watched that much porn and I don't belong to any membership sites. As I stated before, I only belonged to one site I paid for and that was malephysical.com which no longer exists.

So I guess my question is: For those members belonging to other sites, what makes Broke Straight Boys differ from sites like circlejerkboys, or Corbin Fisher, Or Jake Cruise, Sean Cody, or amateur straight guys....boycrush and sites like these???

I have been a subcriber to other sites in the past & currently I am a subscriber to one other site in addition to Broke Straight Boys Each of the sites I have subscribed to have had their own style which appealed to me at the time. Broke Straight Boys's style is totally different to all the others in that it is, I feel, less "sterile" & more personal with the models.

The other sites seem to be more impersonal in respect of the production. It is hard (pun not intended ..... but then again ) to describe what it is exactly I am trying to say because each of us has a different view & perspective of things & life.

Even though, as it was said earlier, Broke Straight Boys is more "home video" & the "camera is a little jerky" that's part of what makes Broke Straight Boys so great in my eyes (of course the boys may have something to do with it too .

So for my 2 cents, David, Broke Straight Boys's format works for me