Braden & Brian

[Denny Bear]

All of a sudden we are having this gay/straight/bi discussion, but aren't we looking at the wrong information? Isn't the true definition of your orientation based on who you fall in love with, not who you have sex with.

These have sex with guys for pay. Some of them even like it, on occasion, but if they can only give their heart to a girl, they're straight. If they can only give their heart to guys, they're gay. Those people who can truly fall in love with either would be bi.

Right? Don't yell at me if I'm wrong. Just tell me how it works.

Now that's an extremely interesting point of view and one well worth thinking over.

 

[parisnoyd]

I have been in love with both. My second lover was a guy (so was my first), and I loved him. I have also been in love with several girls. Sex is so fun with either gender. I guess I'm Bi. hehe

 

[jwglass]

All of a sudden we are having this gay/straight/bi discussion, but aren't we looking at the wrong information? Isn't the true definition of your orientation based on who you fall in love with, not who you have sex with.

These have sex with guys for pay. Some of them even like it, on occasion, but if they can only give their heart to a girl, they're straight. If they can only give their heart to guys, they're gay. Those people who can truly fall in love with either would be bi.

Right? Don't yell at me if I'm wrong. Just tell me how it works.

from your lips to societys anus! what you said is the damn truth girl

 

[tampa24]

I think when you guys come for the meet & greet, we will have to test drive Diesal..but I think you will have to beat Tampa24 to get on line to test drive Diesal just to make sure he's gay or straight

Wow. I thought yesterday that this thread had fizzled out. Then I missed all these posts.

Well Denny my friend I would certainly like to take Diesal for a test drive. David is right that I would be fighting to get to the front of that line. LOL Diesal is one of the nicest guys you'll have the privilege to meet. But WWDD? What would Diesal do? He would ask that the people who have not met him yet be allowed to the front of the line. Because he would be happy to meet you too. Therefore I would gladly allow you in front of me. Knowing that Diesal will still give the same attention and warmth to his fans and friends that he's already met. Diesal inspires you to follow your better angels.

But I'm sorry Denny. Whether you are in the front of the line with Diesal, the middle or the back... It doesn't mean that you're gonna get laid. haha But hope springs eternal. So yes... I would take my chances and get in line. haha

 

[tampa24]

I'm going to chime in here again. As for Diesal, Mrs. D is right on target..but also you can ask Tampa24 about Diesal since he's a gay man and also met Diesal a week before Mrs. D.

Slim pretty much summed up my thoughts and is 100% correct.

Well I can't speak for Diesal Only he knows what's in his heart and what stirs the lust within him. I tried to pin him down ........ on his sexuality. LOL And he demurred. He says that he doesn't like labels.

In my eyes Diesal is straight. My gaydar never went off around him.

 

[joninliverton]

from your lips to societys anus! what you said is the damn truth girl

I'm afraid I disagree. I do not think that your sexual orientation is equatable to whom you fall in love with. A guy may be happily married but still fools around and fucks guys and gets fucked too. After his playtime with the boys, he goes home to wifey and the kids, has a family meal, watches a DVD with the wife when the kids have gone to bed, then they call it a day and go to bed where they make love. Of course he's straight - not.

 

[mikeyank]

I'm afraid I disagree. I do not think that your sexual orientation is equatable to whom you fall in love with. A guy may be happily married but still fools around and fucks guys and gets fucked too. After his playtime with the boys, he goes home to wifey and the kids, has a family meal, watches a DVD with the wife when the kids have gone to bed, then they call it a day and go to bed where they make love. Of course he's straight - not.

I agree Jon that being in love with a woman does not necessarily make a man straight. I also agree with what Tampa said that Diesal told him, that he doesn't believe in labels.

There is no precise or correct answer to what makes an individual straight or gay. Everyone has their own degree of sexuality, and we all fall in to our place on the scale, so there is no definitive answer. It varies by the individual.

 

[jwglass]

I'm afraid I disagree. I do not think that your sexual orientation is equatable to whom you fall in love with. A guy may be happily married but still fools around and fucks guys and gets fucked too. After his playtime with the boys, he goes home to wifey and the kids, has a family meal, watches a DVD with the wife when the kids have gone to bed, then they call it a day and go to bed where they make love. Of course he's straight - not.

no, hes not straight, hes a cheating liar that uses the men he fucks to get his rocks off because he hasnt the balls to live his life for himself. not to mention hes lieing to his kids, who had no part in their being part of his life. i have no respect for someone like that. you can have sex with men and women, as long as youre not in a commited relationship. he trapped himself in a marriage with a woman, and fucks men on the side. so no, i agree with you, hes not straight, hes scum!

 

[elyot1]

All of a sudden we are having this gay/straight/bi discussion, but aren't we looking at the wrong information? Isn't the true definition of your orientation based on who you fall in love with, not who you have sex with.

These have sex with guys for pay. Some of them even like it, on occasion, but if they can only give their heart to a girl, they're straight. If they can only give their heart to guys, they're gay. Those people who can truly fall in love with either would be bi.

Right? Don't yell at me if I'm wrong. Just tell me how it works.

The Beautiful All Seeing Eye sees and speaks the truth. Thank you.

Any advice on how you know you're in love? I pretty much play the field, and this one guy has had the same gf for about a year and a half. He and I have been having a lot of fun in and out of the bedroom. We say its a 'no strings' thing, just hormones, but we're getting together more and more. About a week ago after sucking and fucking we got into some really intense silence.Looking in each other's eyes. I don't know how to describe it, almost out of body type thing. Don't know how long it lasted. Then we both snapped out of it, laughed and he got dresseed and left. Never spoke about it. Similar thing happened again last night. What is that? I don't think I know how to love anybody but my parents. So I'm guessing this might be a case of lust to the nth degree. How do you know if you are in lust or love?

 

[silvercamel]

The Beautiful All Seeing Eye sees and speaks the truth. Thank you.

Any advice on how you know you're in love? I pretty much play the field, and this one guy has had the same gf for about a year and a half. He and I have been having a lot of fun in and out of the bedroom. We say its a 'no strings' thing, just hormones, but we're getting together more and more. About a week ago after sucking and fucking we got into some really intense silence.Looking in each other's eyes. I don't know how to describe it, almost out of body type thing. Don't know how long it lasted. Then we both snapped out of it, laughed and he got dresseed and left. Never spoke about it. Similar thing happened again last night. What is that? I don't think I know how to love anybody but my parents. So I'm guessing this might be a case of lust to the nth degree. How do you know if you are in lust or love?

Try touching...I don't mean fucking or sucking.....just ......touching each other - back, head, neck, face...... Try it.

 

[joninliverton]

no, hes not straight, hes a cheating liar that uses the men he fucks to get his rocks off because he hasnt the balls to live his life for himself. not to mention hes lieing to his kids, who had no part in their being part of his life. i have no respect for someone like that. you can have sex with men and women, as long as youre not in a commited relationship. he trapped himself in a marriage with a woman, and fucks men on the side. so no, i agree with you, hes not straight, hes scum!

Exactly Joe, so therefore you agree with me that your sexual orientation is dictated by the person you fall in love with...

 

[carking1]

Getting back to the topic at hand, I think that Braden and most of the other straight models show more passion with a straight boy than a gay boy for the same reason that a straight guy gets turned on more by a virgin than a girl who has known a man or two.

Most guys are wired the same. They are competitive. They are macho. They drip testosterone. If they can go where no one else has successfully gone, get someone to do something they have never done, do it for them, then they are the winner. They are the man. They can bump fists and high five. Guys want to win, they don't want to kiss and be all girly-girl with another dude. If they get to stick their thing in another guy's hole, especially with a condom to provide a gay barrier, they are just getting off. But if they percieve themselves to be hot enough to get a straight guy to give up some rectum, then they are the king of the futon.

Braden got into teaching Tommy because Tommy resisted. It was no conquest to get Brian to imitate a set of goal posts and take one for the team. It was just jacking off using a big, two-legged fist to do the job.

Guys are about winning. And, they don't kiss the competition. It took me a long time to realize that. Some of my earlier posts were, like, dude, if you take a guy's cock in your mouth, why won't you kiss him? But, I have come to realize that to straight guys, life is just another game, another competition. A macho football player can shower with the team, even slap another guy on the ass in the locker room, that's just part of the game spilling over, releasing hormones.

In these scenes, when two straight guys kiss, it's even hotter because they are so wrapped up in the emotions of winning, scoring, that they let down the barriers for just a minute and get vulnerable. David can't script that and he sure as hell can't buy that. If it happens, it is magic.

 

[jwglass]

Exactly Joe, so therefore you agree with me that your sexual orientation is dictated by the person you fall in love with...

hunnie, i have mentioned time and time again that i dont believe anyone is straight or gay or whatever. my point in my post was saying that the guy in your scenario is a scumbag for cheating. get your eyes checked buddy.

 

[raysvq]

Whatever is being said here &/or elsewhere all I care about is seeing Brian naked & on my bed ... oops I mean the futon