Behind the Scenes - Fire Island

[ScottC]

Scott, did i hear your correctly in saying you have a very large gerbil in your ass? hmm well buddy, youre supposed to take him out of the ball before insertion, im pretty sure that large ball with a gerbil inside is causing quite a blockage.

Gerbil? Were you hungry again?

 

[ScottC]

You really should be consistent in your thoughts Jon. In the Diesal and Jimmy thread you talked about that scene being disappointing simply because it was an older scene and being shown out of order. Here you defend a clip that by and large ISN'T up to the normal high standards. Actually I was dissapointed because it didn't come to the expectations of the last 3 scenes they did together.

Whether it's a freebie or not is irrelevant. It's on the site, and as such should meet the same standards as everything else. I watched it about 5 minutes and stopped as it annoyed me as it did others. That certainly doesn't mean I like the site any less, or I think it's going downhill, I just think it's a clip that shouldn't have made it on here. Have you visited some of the HSBoys sites and in some cases Straight Boys Jerk Off which many members have criticised for poor quality. Is Mark therefore responsible for that too.
And I've said it in other threads, but I too am getting tired of hearing the "Change is a coming" routine. We all know full well there are 365 days in the year, but we've been hearing this since late November-and here it is March and we're still hearing it. Add to that calling previous models "New", and it leaves a sour taste. I actually agree with you on this one.

As for the Mary Whitehouse reference, I'm very close to letting my sub lapse until these "changes" finally make an appearance, but your arrogant attitude makes me just want to leave the forums period. I shoot from the hip, if you don't like it, don't read it

And Jon if you can't take someone disagreeing with you, kindly stfu.

 

[mikeyank]

This is getting fun!

Thank you Jason for taking a light hearted approach to this forum. We are not discussing world hunger or famine or war or diseases or natural disasters here.

Heck, this is a forum to discuss what's going on in the world of an Internet studio that specializes in showing good looking young straight guys getting naked, and getting their dicks hard, and playing with other guys for the entertainment of gay guys, who often are sitting at their computers with their pants around their ankles wanking on their tools, checking out the action on their screens.

Let's not take this too seriously. There is too much real drama and tragedy in real life. When we have some time to unwind and relax and check out Broke Straight Boys, it is time to have some fun, and for me that definitely includes posting on the forum.

Yes Jason, this is fun, and the debates and disagreements are a lot of fun too. If I want to scream for more macho straight guys who don't want to do any "fag shit", and another member wants more gay boys to be loving and swap spit with his futon partner, so be it. I consider this fun too.

When the forum becomes exclusively guys sharing anecdotes about what they cooked for dinner today, or how the weather is in Walla Walla, I lose interest. This is the forum for a "raunchy porn site", where guys who are supposed to be straight, suck cock and get fucked up the ass, and some of the members want to see more rimming and shooting cum on guy's faces and in their open mouths. This is raw uncensored gritty sex and we are all adults of legal age, so it's perfectly acceptable to speak frankly as adults. This is one of the few places where we can "be ourselves" and express our opinions and feelings about issues that we for the most part, cannot discuss in polite company.

Long live Broke Straight Boys, and it's open honest uncensored forum.

 

[tampa24]

C'mon guys. If you absolutely must engage in cattiness, how about PM's or profile messages? This isn't right.

 

[tampa24]

I doubt whether it will take a long for some of the more senior members to suss you out.

I have a pretty good idea who he is. And if he's back that's fine with me. He's as welcome here as anyone else. And he's always a defender of mgmt. Which I think is great. As Aquarius he has made some excellent points so far. And insofar as I've seen myself alluded to in his posts I've had to admit that he was right about a few things. But we haven't been too far apart in our thinking in this thread so far.

 

[tampa24]

Whoa Mama...

I tell you, you guys all have way to much energy lol. I have come in from work on the other side of the world and there is all these heat goin on in here.
Us Kiwi's don't get bogged down in all this...we tend to have a beer, chase a few sheep and then have a few more beers.....aahhh the simple life.
I am certainly not being disrespectful to anyone I am actually really proud to associate with a group of guys and gals who have such passion and a way of translating that to the written word.
I don't agree with a lot of the things said but I do think you guys have a cumulatively vast intellect and eloquence that makes me proud to be a member of this site.
My writing skills are pretty much humbled by the vast majority of you.

GROUP HUG!!


Everyone is entitled to their opinion but David, Eddie and Mark basically rock in my opinion. What ever you guys decide to do with regards up dates is fine by me.
I just like watchin hot guys get naked and have sex on film...what can I say I am a simple kiwi. Simple life, simple pleasures.

You are so right dear Wantto. People need to lighten up. And if all this fuss really is over the updates, then Mark has already said that the new ones will start at the end of the month. So problem solved. And we can stop trading barbs. Right?

Your writing skills are fine Wantto. You get your points across very well.

 

[jwglass]

Gerbil? Were you hungry again?

listen, well all know i love to mastrubate and eat cake, that was exposed a long time ago. but i would never eat a gerbil, the meat on them isnt very good. i apologize if i offended you by assuming you had something large obstructing your bowels, i just figured for someone to be in such a sour mood 24/7 to naysay everything, there had to be something very large up there!

 

[jwglass]

C'mon guys. If you absolutely must engage in cattiness, how about PM's or profile messages? This isn't right.

sorry tampa, i read this post after i shot one back. it wont happen again!

 

[joninliverton]

And Jon if you can't take someone disagreeing with you, kindly stfu.

Firstly asshole then stfu, what a nice person you are Scott C, no wonder you look so miserable on your avator, that gerbil must surely be causing you problems.

 

[aquarius]

You know something, you don't have the faintest idea who I am and that's the truth. You just think you do. And I'll tell you something else. You've run so many members off this forum since I left a year ago, by the end of the next you'll be sitting here talking to each other wondering where your audience went. You're the biggest bunch of Karl Roves I've ever seen. Turn everything and everyone into an attack on your freedom. Nobody wants to take away your freedom - they just want to teach you some respect for others. Nobody, and I mean nobody, on this forum should every be told to shut the fuck up! Kapish! Understand that Little Hitlers? And if you like something, say it; if you don't like something, say it, but once is enough. And, Mikeyank if you think everybody on this site who gets naked and plays with other guy's dicks is straight, where has your poor deluded mind been for the past five years and why did you get so defensive when Mikey was told you didn't like 'fems?' And, by the way, if you suck dick, you're gay, so stop pretending to be so manly in comparison to Joninliverton who's as clueless about when to shut up as you are. This place used to be alive with people who had a good time and talked about everything - not just what you wanted them to - and now there are a few newbies and you five or six who do your damndest to ruin it for everybody else. As to who I am, it doesn't matter. I used to get along really well with the three of you who were around then. Now, well, you aren't the same people you were then.

 

[jasonaz]

Thank you Jason for taking a light hearted approach to this forum. We are not discussing world hunger or famine or war or diseases or natural disasters here.

Heck, this is a forum to discuss what's going on in the world of an Internet studio that specializes in showing good looking young straight guys getting naked, and getting their dicks hard, and playing with other guys for the entertainment of gay guys, who often are sitting at their computers with their pants around their ankles wanking on their tools, checking out the action on their screens.

Let's not take this too seriously. There is too much real drama and tragedy in real life. When we have some time to unwind and relax and check out Broke Straight Boys, it is time to have some fun, and for me that definitely includes posting on the forum.

Yes Jason, this is fun, and the debates and disagreements are a lot of fun too. If I want to scream for more macho straight guys who don't want to do any "fag shit", and another member wants more gay boys to be loving and swap spit with his futon partner, so be it. I consider this fun too.

When the forum becomes exclusively guys sharing anecdotes about what they cooked for dinner today, or how the weather is in Walla Walla, I lose interest. This is the forum for a "raunchy porn site", where guys who are supposed to be straight, suck cock and get fucked up the ass, and some of the members want to see more rimming and shooting cum on guy's faces and in their open mouths. This is raw uncensored gritty sex and we are all adults of legal age, so it's perfectly acceptable to speak frankly as adults. This is one of the few places where we can "be ourselves" and express our opinions and feelings about issues that we for the most part, cannot discuss in polite company.

Long live Broke Straight Boys, and it's open honest uncensored forum.

Touche' Mikeyank!
Are you sure we weren't brothers in a past life?!

 

[aquarius]

It's also fun to talk about rude brothers with absolutely no manners who just don't get the point - this playground is not your personal playground. You may play whatever games you want to on it but you may not hit each other over the head with swings or throw sand in each other's faces or urinate in the drinking fountain because there are rules here. And we all play by the rules. And the biggest rule is that we respect one another and that includes the models. Unfortunately, I really doubt either of you brothers is truly being 'yourself.' You're being that bully down the street that you both ran from when you were kids and now you have found a place where screaming louder takes the place of fighting harder and you've become him. This is a forum for people to talk about whatever they want to in various threads and if one thread wants to talk about Walla Walla what on earth does it have to do with the price of cum in Brooklyn? Does it hurt you in anyway, Mikeyank, Jason? If two of the female members want to talk about the price of tampax is it any of your business? Are you obligated to dominate every thread? Must you participate in every conversation? Does your arrogance extend to the point that you must personally approve every dialog enjoined? This forum has room for every sort of speech - what happens is the bullies, like bulldozers, rush in to tell others what to think, what not to think, who is welcome, what to watch, and what must and must not be shown - and most importantly what the management must and must not display - all in the name of their taste and their freedom and their interest. Well, gentlemen, some of like this 'raunchy porn site' the way it's always been, with a little bit for everyone and a discussions about virtually everything IN polite company.

 

[slimvintage]

The forum is for market research. Anyone who gives an opinion about the product the site is selling is pretty much complying with the purpose it was set up for. Everyone's lost track of that it seems to me. When I first posted stuff on here a year and a half ago I did it with the idea of putting my two cents in regarding what I thought was good and what I thought was bad about the Broke Straight Boys world, its management, cast, product, image, its strengths, deficiencies. I did little "Slim's picks" from the bonus sites, maybe the first "critiques" of the scenes on the forum. I can write, and have a sense of humor, so some of those little vignettes came off as funny. I was catty about Danny in one that caused some problems, but it was a terrific little piece if I remember right, and Danny wouldn't have taken offense even though some of his fans did at first. But for the most part I tried to be positive and give management ideas, like improving the quality of the texts accompanying the scenes, which were really really bad, and even now have only improved slightly, and even offered to proofread them. In a little bit of banter on the forum with David I told him to auction off the futon on eBay, but to send the salmon colored sheets (that he hated the color of) to me. Very soon after that he announced the charity auctions. I tried to do here what I've done in my other lives, contribute, provide points of departure, be as amusing as I could be while at the same time calling attention to things I thought were good but could be better, or were good enough not to need improvement, or were counter productive to the business.

We've all got caught up at one time or another and to a greater or lesser extent in matters that are extraneous to the original intention management had in setting this message board up. I'm talking about our occasional use of it to congratulate each other, commiserate with friends who have troubles or tragedies, compare memories and show affection and general support. We've gotten into the spats that the "celibate gay senior spinsters" who inhabit this place would naturally tend to get into: telling each other what we have and have not the right to say and going on to outline the right and wrong way to say it. That's also outside the marketing paradigm, but hey.

Over the course of a year and a half there's been some evolution, allowing this chatty, personal stuff to flourish in a moderate way.

I remember some extremes: kodieboy turned the place into a lonely guy's blog for a while, a sort of outback Truman Show, and had to be contained in his own endless thread to keep everyone else from going mad. If you guys remember Rifle? who had every reason by virtue of his intelligence, perspicacity and writing skills, to feel that he'd be a positive and respected contributor to this little world, ended up leaving because he felt he wasn't understood or appreciated. He was perhaps, as a teacher, used to telling people what to say and how to say it, and when riled here on the forum didn't shy away from the use of disdain, or the famous patient, patronizing sneer, when when interacting with the fools he suffered so unhappily. And Mitch, who posted non-PC jibes about stuff that's essentially off limits in America today. And casper who was brilliant but unstable and probably an impostor, and seemed, like Kodie, to have nothing else to do, nothing, but post on the forum.

But I try not to forget (despite dande sometimes doing just that and every little while getting huffy at the critiques, naughty naughty) what the forum is basically for: to tell management what you think, provide ideas for improvement, lick ass (ma non troppo) when they've done a good job and go so far as to offer creative suggestions for new initiatives. And be a bit funny if you can. I love it when someone on here makes me laugh.

Those of us who are genuinely old, although we like to call ourselves "older" on gaydar, tend to be nostalgic, and lament how things have changed, and don't taste as good as they used to, when you could leave your car unlocked in front of the hardware store, when people were civil, when manners were good. That's just part of being a senior citizen; it's gone on in exactly the same way for millennia. It's no surprise to find it here, none at all, but keep in mind that's it's part of life, just a part, and endemic to a specific demographic, cantankerous and puzzled at the same time, with hurt feelings for being left behind as life goes on. I could sure tell you young whippersnappers a thing or two.

 

[joninliverton]

IN polite company.

Well from what we've seen of your posts so far that puts you out of the company. As to clueless when to shut up the take a look at all your posts so far since your return, you havn't stopped being angry from day 1.

As to Mike and Jason, if they choose to be buddies and discuss what they each like on here let them do it. Sure I have had my run ins with these 2 but occasionally (jk) they make good points too.

The USA has it's consitution you're begining to give me constipation.

 

[wantto]

I think you guys are all fantastic, see what I mean about the intellect and writing abilities of all of you.....I am in complete awe of it.

Like I said before, which I think most people ignored because I think I come across as boring or something, there is a lot of talent in here with regards the written word. I think we could put it to better use as opposed to being mean to each other.

Ok call me childish for putting it that way but I am not a big fan of getting on someones case if I disagree with their opinion....I tend to agree to disagree...perhaps that makes me a doormat and someone who bows to pressure but I just cannot see the energy involved in offending someone.
I think to have a heated debate is one thing, it involves a positivety that you are getting out of the situation by putting your point across...that is worth the energy but to offend people nah not good.

This is what holds me back from posting sometimes....the heat that erupts, I just find it hard to get involved. I spent a good portion of time in a long term relationship where his past time was to put me down....I hate to see you guys do that to each other.
So I will probably hear the call of "wet Blanket" haha and I don't mind that. Come on guys you have so many talents...write some nice stuff.

now how about that GROUP HUG!!

 

[slimvintage]

I think you guys are all fantastic, see what I mean about the intellect and writing abilities of all of you.....I am in complete awe of it.

Like I said before, which I think most people ignored because I think I come across as boring or something, there is a lot of talent in here with regards the written word. I think we could put it to better use as opposed to being mean to each other.

Ok call me childish for putting it that way but I am not a big fan of getting on someones case if I disagree with their opinion....I tend to agree to disagree...perhaps that makes me a doormat and someone who bows to pressure but I just cannot see the energy involved in offending someone.
I think to have a heated debate is one thing, it involves a positivety that you are getting out of the situation by putting your point across...that is worth the energy but to offend people nah not good.

This is what holds me back from posting sometimes....the heat that erupts, I just find it hard to get involved. I spent a good portion of time in a long term relationship where his past time was to put me down....I hate to see you guys do that to each other.
So I will probably hear the call of "wet Blanket" haha and I don't mind that. Come on guys you have so many talents...write some nice stuff.

now how about that GROUP HUG!!

Not wet blanket, security blanket. I have this problem with sometimes hugging you with one of those enveloping cradling timeless unhurried nuzzling heartfelt embraces but still whispering lovingly in your ear that you're full of shit and to stop being an asshole. Not always, only when the occasion demands it. And certainly not to you wantto, you would get the whole, premium, weltmeister hug in technicolor, and the only audio would be the theme from Titanic

 

[jasonaz]

Well from what we've seen of your posts so far that puts you out of the company. As to clueless when to shut up the take a look at all your posts so far since your return, you havn't stopped being angry from day 1.

As to Mike and Jason, if they choose to be buddies and discuss what they each like on here let them do it. Sure I have had my run ins with these 2 but occasionally (jk) they make good points too.

The USA has it's consitution you're begining to give me constipation.

Hear Hear Jon! Very Well said.

'tis true we have had many an occasion where we have had to agree to disagree, but I have never felt personally attacked and I pray you have not either for that was never the intention, it merely shows we are different people with different tastes. I have always enjoyed our volleys and I have never lost sleep, taken personaly, or cried over anything someone has said on this board.
It seems to me that aquarius, to use his own analogy, is the kid who shows up at the playground with his shiny new football but wants to re-write the way the game is played or he takes his ball and goes home in a huff. And that's fine too. As for me, I'll stay at the playground and play with my friends, and if I happen to get some sand in my eyes, I can always wash it out at the drinking fountain, even if someone pissed in it.

Read Slim's post Aquarius, and you will understand. If you have trouble with the big words, we'll help you out.

Luv ya Jon.
-J

 

[mikeyank]

This forum has room for every sort of speech - what happens is the bullies, like bulldozers, rush in to tell others what to think, what not to think, who is welcome, what to watch, and what must and must not be shown - and most importantly what the management must and must not display - all in the name of their taste and their freedom and their interest. Well, gentlemen, some of like this 'raunchy porn site' the way it's always been, with a little bit for everyone and a discussions about virtually everything IN polite company.

If you truly believed the bullshit that you have been writing for the last two or three days under your current screen name, why don't you reread exactly what you have been posting, and take a good look in the mirror, and perhaps you will realize that you are the bully. You are telling us what is acceptable subject matter to post about, and what subjects are taboo.

You have referred to me as a bully. Why am I a bully if I state my opinions? And if I am a fan of porn that is based on the illusion of straight guys having gay sex, why do you criticize that? Isn't that what Broke Straight Boys is all about? Because I prefer watching pysdo straight boys sucking and wanking in my porn, why does that make me a hater, or a gay basher? I'm as queer as you are, even if I prefer baseball to opera. I'm a cocksucker who is proud of who I am, even if I enjoy the Ice Hockey at the Olympics and not the figure skating. There is a wide diversity among gays, in how we dress, and how we enjoy our spare time, and the type of porn that we like to wank off to. As a matter of fact, a few weeks ago David, our leader and the man who creates the videos for the site said:

"If there are members here on Broke Straight Boys that like watching femme gay boys...then they are watching the wrong site "

So really Rifle, I mean Aquarius, what is your problem? Why are you writing antagonistic posts, criticizing some of the members and posters on the forum, when you are perhaps the most narrow minded bully of all on the forum? Are you familiar with "We have met the enemy and he is us." Perhaps, you are the "self-hater" on the forum.

I do like the forum as it is and has been, and I have no objection to anyone who wants to have a discussion about the weather in Walla Walla, or to exchange recipes for Prarie Cakes. If a topic does not interest me, I simply don't comment, and I stop reading that thread. Perhaps you should try that tact too. But if you follow in the same path that you have in the past, you will make some long rambling posts with metaphors and all, trying to impress us with your wit and wisdom, and then you will again disappear into thin air. I call that "hit and run".

I tried to ignore your latest rash of hateful posts, but you have mentioned me in a few of your rants, so I felt a need to respond. I would love to know examples of where I've been a bully or told anyone what they should talk about, or what scenes that they should enjoy or how to live their life. Try to recognize what it is that you are saying, and what a hypocrite you are. I will continue to express my opinions on subjects, and I will continue to post under the same screen name. I don't feel the need to hide under various persona's. I am who I am.

 

[joninliverton]

Hear Hear Jon! Very Well said.

'tis true we have had many an occasion where we have had to agree to disagree, but I have never felt personally attacked and I pray you have not either for that was never the intention, it merely shows we are different people with different tastes. I have always enjoyed our volleys and I have never lost sleep, taken personaly, or cried over anything someone has said on this board.
It seems to me that aquarius, to use his own analogy, is the kid who shows up at the playground with his shiny new football but wants to re-write the way the game is played or he takes his ball and goes home in a huff. And that's fine too. As for me, I'll stay at the playground and play with my friends, and if I happen to get some sand in my eyes, I can always wash it out at the drinking fountain, even if someone pissed in it.

Read Slim's post Aquarius, and you will understand. If you have trouble with the big words, we'll help you out.

Luv ya Jon.
-J

Oerr Jason babe, let's not get too luvey dovey otherwise the rest of the members will think we've been on drugs lol, but it could be the lurv drug.

 

[amcovtime]

The forum is for market research. Anyone who gives an opinion about the product the site is selling is pretty much complying with the purpose it was set up for. Everyone's lost track of that it seems to me. When I first posted stuff on here a year and a half ago I did it with the idea of putting my two cents in regarding what I thought was good and what I thought was bad about the Broke Straight Boys world, its management, cast, product, image, its strengths, deficiencies. I did little "Slim's picks" from the bonus sites, maybe the first "critiques" of the scenes on the forum. I can write, and have a sense of humor, so some of those little vignettes came off as funny. I was catty about Danny in one that caused some problems, but it was a terrific little piece if I remember right, and Danny wouldn't have taken offense even though some of his fans did at first. But for the most part I tried to be positive and give management ideas, like improving the quality of the texts accompanying the scenes, which were really really bad, and even now have only improved slightly, and even offered to proofread them. In a little bit of banter on the forum with David I told him to auction off the futon on eBay, but to send the salmon colored sheets (that he hated the color of) to me. Very soon after that he announced the charity auctions. I tried to do here what I've done in my other lives, contribute, provide points of departure, be as amusing as I could be while at the same time calling attention to things I thought were good but could be better, or were good enough not to need improvement, or were counter productive to the business.

We've all got caught up at one time or another and to a greater or lesser extent in matters that are extraneous to the original intention management had in setting this message board up. I'm talking about our occasional use of it to congratulate each other, commiserate with friends who have troubles or tragedies, compare memories and show affection and general support. We've gotten into the spats that the "celibate gay senior spinsters" who inhabit this place would naturally tend to get into: telling each other what we have and have not the right to say and going on to outline the right and wrong way to say it. That's also outside the marketing paradigm, but hey.

Over the course of a year and a half there's been some evolution, allowing this chatty, personal stuff to flourish in a moderate way.

I remember some extremes: kodieboy turned the place into a lonely guy's blog for a while, a sort of outback Truman Show, and had to be contained in his own endless thread to keep everyone else from going mad. If you guys remember Rifle? who had every reason by virtue of his intelligence, perspicacity and writing skills, to feel that he'd be a positive and respected contributor to this little world, ended up leaving because he felt he wasn't understood or appreciated. He was perhaps, as a teacher, used to telling people what to say and how to say it, and when riled here on the forum didn't shy away from the use of disdain, or the famous patient, patronizing sneer, when when interacting with the fools he suffered so unhappily. And Mitch, who posted non-PC jibes about stuff that's essentially off limits in America today. And casper who was brilliant but unstable and probably an impostor, and seemed, like Kodie, to have nothing else to do, nothing, but post on the forum.

But I try not to forget (despite dande sometimes doing just that and every little while getting huffy at the critiques, naughty naughty) what the forum is basically for: to tell management what you think, provide ideas for improvement, lick ass (ma non troppo) when they've done a good job and go so far as to offer creative suggestions for new initiatives. And be a bit funny if you can. I love it when someone on here makes me laugh.

Those of us who are genuinely old, although we like to call ourselves "older" on gaydar, tend to be nostalgic, and lament how things have changed, and don't taste as good as they used to, when you could leave your car unlocked in front of the hardware store, when people were civil, when manners were good. That's just part of being a senior citizen; it's gone on in exactly the same way for millennia. It's no surprise to find it here, none at all, but keep in mind that's it's part of life, just a part, and endemic to a specific demographic, cantankerous and puzzled at the same time, with hurt feelings for being left behind as life goes on. I could sure tell you young whippersnappers a thing or two.

I love what you said in this bit Slim. I know my forum title says jr member, but I have been on this site sine 2007. I took a break because the movies started losing the appeal for me and they were not being updated enough at that time. I decided to return and this time I wanted to participate in the forum to voice my concerns in an effort to keep me from running away screamign again (not a pretty site to see). I think it is fine to voice your concern and I do feel a bit put off by 'management' jumping all over people's cases.
As a supervisor myself, I know how to take critisim and accept what I feel needs to be changed while disregarding things that are just complaints. If Bitching is what I decide to do, I think it is fine. I also think, as David said, it is fine for management to do what they feel is right. If membership fails then maybe things will change.