Where is MikeYank?

[nitefly]

Just curious why Mike has posted here recently. I need my model ranking update (and I miss his commentary).

 

[mikeyank]

Thank you nitefly. That is very sweet of you to ask. I am still here and doing well, but the current forum is not "my forum", and so I read the few comments that still are posted, and watch an occasional scene, (very occasional) but for the most part I feel no connection with the forum or in fact the current models, so I stay on the sidelines waiting for perhaps a hot, believably straight boy to arouse my sexual desires. But I am still here and if I do decide to cancel, I will say goodbye on the forum, as the forum has meant a lot to me over the last nine years, but just not at this time.

But, thanks again for asking. I really appreciate your kind post thinking of me!

 

[johnny]

Just curious why Mike has posted here recently. I need my model ranking update (and I miss his commentary).

Good of you to ask nitefly..He is still with us. But was forced by the holier than thou formites not to post anymore.
People said he talked to much about how the Forum was so much fun at one time. Talked about the past to much.Well let me ask You?
Seen any fun posts lately? Seen any fun banter among formites? Ever see whole days go by without a post. Like you see now.
Mike loved the forum more than any one I knew. He was here long before me. But even when I joined there were at least 30 or40
posts a day. People on the forum used to joke with each other. Talk with each other. Not any more.Now all you get are long boring
posts about peoples sex life 60 years ago.I think mike will be back and post again. When he has something to say. But no more just
fun posts.Those days are gone. A great many of mikes friends are gone.It is a different forum.But I sure hope mike will post again.
I really miss the Man.And I thank You nitefly for asking for him.You were the only one that seemed to care..
OH PS..I didn't see mikes post. Takes me forever to write a post...

 

[Beth]

I too post a lot let these days...just the times I guess. I am so "down and out" because of the political climate/happenings; just not feeling it right now.

 

[stowe1]

Well, nitefly, mikey is too nice and good to get into the thick of it, but I have no such compunction. He is so nice and so good that he actually cares what people say or what people think about him. Again, I have no such a problem. On this site and on this forum, I could care less what people say about me, what they think of what I post, or whether or not they agree with the opinions I aver when I post. And while mikey has responded here, I am going to go where he, because he is mikey, wouldn't want to go.

Some Background: For quite a while now, as you must be aware, two topics have been discussed a great deal - the models and the forum. Regarding the models, the discussion centers around whether they are straight or gay; whether the site has become more a broke gay boys site; and the hotness of the guys relative to early periods of the site's existence. As to the forum, the discussion has centered on what has been a noticeable decline in the number of postings on the forum within the past year or so, and the wondering among the forumites who have been posting as to the reason or reasons for said decline.

Not that your memory needs to be refreshed, but you'll recall that the forum is an open and free one created by the site owner to allow people to comment on site related matters as well as non-site related matters. While management monitors the forum, it has given extremely wide latitude in what is censored. In fact, in the 6 years I've been on the forum there have been only 2 or 3 people banned and those have happened after other forumites have asked management to consider banning because the content was so objectionable. Really the banning has been a grassroots occurrence.

The forum is very close to mikey. I have always called him one of the founding Fathers. He, tampa, and a bunch of others were among the earliest forumites. Mikey and tampa were the first two people who welcomed me to the forum when I joined up in 2011. And I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't the case when you joined up as well. Mikey has in excess of 12 or 13,000 posts. And in the 6 years I have been here there has not been one time where he has called people names, attacked them for their opinions, or suggested they leave the forum and/or site. That's just not his nature. Sure, he has disagreed with people and they have discussed, sometimes heatedly, their differences, but never harshly or using ad hominem attacks. He has lamented the paucity of posts and forumites posting on the forum and has given his opinions as to why. Which of course is his right to do on this, a free and open forum.

As to the site, he has lamented what he considers to be the change in the models used on the site from ones who are straight or for him "believably straight" and had never done porn work prior to Broke Straight Boys to ones a vast majority of who are either gay, bi- or not "believably straight", and have had varying degrees of prior porn experience. Mikey joined up during BSB1 when David Adamson was the director and he was able to get a helluva lot of straight, dare I say hustler, types in Lauderdale when that was still a major thing certain types of straight guys did for a living or to supplement other work. Even after David left and Clay was director, the same type of guys were predominant. But after Clay left, things started slowly to change. And mikey often commented on that and lamented the loss of the models he found hot and typical of Broke Straight Boys when he joined. Again, which is his right to do as a member of this free and open forum.

Now, there are those forumites who see things differently both as to the site and the forum. And that's great. What a boring world this would be, what a boring forum this would be, if we all had the same opinions about the site. These differences should provoke some great discussion among forumites. But sadly there are some who don't agree. On May 8, on the thread "Cage Kafig Fucks Brandon" a post was made by a forumite excoriating whom he termed negative "Bleeding Deacons" who were posting negative bullshit thousands of time by commenting on whether the models were gay or straight, and that BSB1 was the only good Broke Straight Boys He blamed the negative "Bleeding Deacons" for the fall off in forum postings and suggested the they ought to stop posting so that people will come to the forum. Although he was not man enough to say who these people are, you'd have to be an intellectual midget not to recognize that he was pointing to mikey and johnny (and a few others who share their views). I'm not reluctant to tell you that the poster was studdandy. There were a few other forumites who shared in his views.

As I mentioned what I have written here are my own thoughts. I am not speaking for mikey nor putting words into his mouth. To be honest, due to some health issues and other constraints on my time I've not spoken in depth to him about this, other than a brief response to his pm to me about his stopping posting on the forum.

But knowing him as well as I do and knowing how much he loves the forum, I have to believe he was personally upset by this because he believes in a free and open forum and he was being attacked for expressing himself on said forum. And speaking for myself, I will say that I consider it a personal affront to his character as a person and as a forumite; he who cherishes a free and open forum and has helped on several occasions to mediate between others when their discussions were getting out of hand.

So where do we stand now, nitefly?

1. Well I know of 2 members of the site who have quit, citing this attack by studdandy as the final straw that broke the camel's back of their holding on to the site and the forum.

2. Mikey our most prolific forumite has stopped posting. johnny, too, has reduced his postings to almost zero.

3. Now according to studdandy's theory - once these negative "Bleeding Deacons" stopped posting - he implied that people would come back to the forum. Well, the forum has been deader than ever. There have been times I have come to the forum after being away for many hours, and there is no activity. Even studdandy and those who "liked" his post have not increased their postings - so much for the theory.

4. As for me, since he didn't mention names, I have no idea whether or not I a BD. And I could care less one way or the other. I'll post when I want to post and say what I want to say and don't care what others think about any of it.

So that's the background, nitefly. I suggest you go to that thread and read all of it so you can form your own opinions on the matter. But that is what has happened to mikey, and because he is too nice, I thought I should tell you why as I see it.

 

[nickbrady]

I miss Johnny and Mikeyank very much. I miss all the banter that livened up this place. Although I am a relative newbie, I found myself spending more time on the forum than viewing the scenes. I have tried in my small way to post things that I hoped would generate some positive responses, but have not been very successful. It's a shame.

So is there a way to liven things up and make this a fun place again? I wish that our core people would come back and talk to us again. I hate to see this dry up and die. So is there a way to bring this back to life? Help. Any ideas? We need you guys to come back. You are greatly missed.

 

[nitefly]

Thanks for the background. I agree with nickbrady. We need to return the forum to an enjoyable place to visit again, on a regular basis! And it requires the veterans and the newbies to dish about the scenes/models and have a thoughtful discussion if opinions are different.

 

[AtlantaGuy]

Mikey, I've stayed away from the forum but have checked in to the scenes on occasion. I think the forum would never be the same without your input witch I have enjoyed for several years but have generally remained in the background. I just want you to know that I think you are a stand-up guy and I appreciate you comments. Maybe If you leave the site for a while you can get a "second breath". I too miss the folks who have left, and I will probable leave too when my last payment is made. Perhaps I'll come back another time.
One last thing: Stowe: I really liked what you had to say. I am too old to care what someone says to or about me. You have a great attitude.
You have both been a pleasure in my life.
All the best...AtlantaGuy (Ed in Atlanta)

 

[StudddAndy]

Stowe1. I agree with your post wholeheartedly. I agree with your observations about me, about my posting and about the forum.

I will openly admit that my judgement was in error with my May 8, 2017 posting. I will not defend my position, and openly admit that it was harmful to the forum.

I am sorry and i was out of line to make that posting. I'm not sure that I can recover from the posting to contribute as i once did. I wish I could.

But without restraint, I apologize to those offended by the post. And I hope members return to the forum with the same vigor they ever expressed.

I especially apologize to Mikey and to Johnny. I'm truly sorry. Please forgive the hurt I caused.

I say these things knowing that this train may have already left the station. Sorry. Very sorry.

 

[elyot1]

Thanks stowe1 for your post. I really do miss mike, johnny, buckeye and the others who no longer post. I really never was a frequent poster myself but I did contribute.
I also notice the decline of models I want to watch. That did begin after Clay was released. Seems David and Clay recruited guys rather than spending the day on phones with agents hiring guys who we've seen on other sites. Corbin Fisher, College Boy Physicals and other sites seem to be able to bring in new guys on a consistent basis so it's reasonable to wonder why Broke Straight Boys can't do it, too.
Yeah I miss mike, johnny, buckeye and Broke Straight Boys when it really was Broke STRAIGHT (or believeably straight ) Boys. That what I signed up to see. I also ,miss buckeye's picture collection.
You can't go back, but if you're heading in the wrong direction you CAN CHANGE your course of action.

 

[Leedwb]

I personally agree with the first 4 of studdandy's bullet points in his post. Some of that needed to be said, it was true and needed to be said. Now, I didn't equate any of those points to Mike, he rarely post negative things although he does share his affection for the Broke Straight Boys of earlier years. He does not,however make those postings every day, nor after every scene and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I think it's when a forumite post the same negativity over and over and over that it begins to grind on the nerves. I don't think there is anyone here that does not know that I speak my mind. My mind on this subject is that with these things out in the open, maybe we can all reconsider how we post, not to curtail discussion, but to give something to discuss rather than just seeing nothing but negativity in everything (or almost everything).

Like you, stowie, I have no problems in making my feelings known and also am not here to win a popularity contest. I would, however enjoy just a calm, mild-mannered day of reading post from friendly people who are trying to build up the site, not tear it down. Maybe if enough people will come to some kind of agreement on that one simple thing, everyong on the forum can press the rewind button and start this thing over again.

 

[mikeyank]

I personally agree with the first 4 of studdandy's bullet points in his post. Some of that needed to be said, it was true and needed to be said. Now, I didn't equate any of those points to Mike, he rarely post negative things although he does share his affection for the Broke Straight Boys of earlier years. He does not,however make those postings every day, nor after every scene and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I think it's when a forumite post the same negativity over and over and over that it begins to grind on the nerves. I don't think there is anyone here that does not know that I speak my mind. My mind on this subject is that with these things out in the open, maybe we can all reconsider how we post, not to curtail discussion, but to give something to discuss rather than just seeing nothing but negativity in everything (or almost everything).

Like you, stowie, I have no problems in making my feelings known and also am not here to win a popularity contest. I would, however enjoy just a calm, mild-mannered day of reading post from friendly people who are trying to build up the site, not tear it down. Maybe if enough people will come to some kind of agreement on that one simple thing, everyong on the forum can press the rewind button and start this thing over again.

First of all, I want to thank everyone who has had positive things to say about my posts including StudddAndy who was man enough to see how his words were hurtful and has apologized, and I accept your apology Studd, however I am going to make an exception to my usual rule of not making personal attacks on fellow forumites in calling out the person who I'm quoting here, Leedwb.

You continue to make veiled attacks on my friend Johnny who is one of the sweetest, most mild mannered souls who I've ever encountered in my soon to be sixty-seven years on this earth. He is a kind, loving, sweet man who has never had anything negative to say about any of his fellow forumites unless provoked by being attacked first, in which case he retaliates which is a normal human emotion.

When he began posting on this forum, so many of us found his style charming and honest as he wears his heart on his sleeve and always says what he is thinking. He loved the beautiful young models like Kodi and then Paul Canon which I found endearing, just as I went on and on about the models I fell in love with on Broke Straight Boys like the original Shane, nicknamed Tank, and Mike Robbins and Logan who were all my types. One of the things I loved about the forum was our abilities to express our honest opinions about our sexual turn ons without fear of being "put down" by others who disagreed with us.

I really appreciate all of the kind words on this thread started by nitefly, and of course Johnny and Stowe for saying exactly what was going on here, and again to StuddAndy for manning up and apologizing and again, I wholeheartedly accept your apology Studd. And thank you to nickbrady, AtlantaGuy and to my buddy elyot1 who has been here on this forum experience with me since the beginning. And Beth makes a lot of sense in what she says as well, equating the political climate in this country to her reason for posting less, as I am seeing some of the same divided philosophies here paralleling the lack of understanding and compassion in this country.

Again, this is not good bye as I am still a member and will not be leaving here yet, but I see absolutely no reason to think that the forum should be made up of people who are here, "to build up the site, not tear it down". The site has always been owned by Mark, who gave us this forum and as Stowe mentioned, he has not censored us except with rare exceptions during the nine years that the forum has existed, and I resent having a member tell me what should be said here. It is not our job here to be cheerleaders or "pom pom girls" for Broke Straight Boys, but rather to express our true thoughts. and if anyone tires of reading any particular poster's thoughts, there is an "ignore" feature that one can use.

So I will go back into my silent mode as I do not like the idea of feeling the need to walk on eggshells here, with someone "laying in the weeds" ready to pounce and take a pot shot whenever their own personal sensibilities are offended. This is a great big world and I believe we should all be adults and accept a diversity of opinions, without the fear of a "sniper" coming out to "get" us.

Thanks to all, especially to StuddAndy. Enjoy the forum folks and perhaps I will rejoin the discussions here if I feel that it has become a more friendly, fun place again and not a dark repressive one, which is how I see it currently.

 

[stowe1]

I personally agree with the first 4 of studdandy's bullet points in his post. Some of that needed to be said, it was true and needed to be said. Now, I didn't equate any of those points to Mike, he rarely post negative things although he does share his affection for the Broke Straight Boys of earlier years. He does not,however make those postings every day, nor after every scene and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I think it's when a forumite post the same negativity over and over and over that it begins to grind on the nerves. I don't think there is anyone here that does not know that I speak my mind. My mind on this subject is that with these things out in the open, maybe we can all reconsider how we post, not to curtail discussion, but to give something to discuss rather than just seeing nothing but negativity in everything (or almost everything).

Like you, stowie, I have no problems in making my feelings known and also am not here to win a popularity contest. I would, however enjoy just a calm, mild-mannered day of reading post from friendly people who are trying to build up the site, not tear it down . Maybe if enough people will come to some kind of agreement on that one simple thing, everyong on the forum can press the rewind button and start this thing over again.

Dear Lee -

I personally would find the forum boring as hell if everything was always calm and mild-mannered. I love reading the differing views of fellow forumites and the discussions, sometime heated, the can result in having those differing views. What makes it ugly is when name calling, personal attacks, and calls for people who disagree with one's views to stop posting or quit the site occur. That, for me, is when the proverbial line has been crossed and when the forum is anything but mannerly. And as for friendly, I think that for a place made up primarily of people most of who don't really know each other except by what they post here, this forum is a friendly place. To me it is like a large dysfunctional family where its members can disagree with one another but at the end of the day still be a family .


It seems to me that you are taking criticism of the site as wanting to tear it down. Again, it is a matter of any forumite expressing his viewpoint whether it be on the site, the models, or a particular scene. After all, it is a free and open forum available to all who wish to express their views. If one finds any fellow forumite's postings grinding, then one can simply hit the ignore option and not see that particular forumite's posts. To me for any member to suggest that another member stop posting because he or she doesn't like that other member's posts goes against the very ideal of the forum which is to be a place for free and open discussion.


And finally, Lee, as to the beginning of your post where you say that you agree with studdandy's first four bullet points - that's fine, stud and you are expressing your viewpoints which is what the forum is all about. And you further say that what he posted in those bullet points had to be said. Again stud and you are expressing your viewpoints which is what the forum is all about. But what this forum is not all about is the way he said what he said. And even studdandy has come to realize, acknowledge, and apologize for that.




(Lee, this exchange to me is what the forum is all about. You express your views and I express my views, which differ from yours. And at the end of the day we are still siblings in the big dysfunctional family that is the Broke Straight Boys Forum. )

 

[peterh6308]

This is just a forum on a porn site, get real people...... nothing should ever be taken offensive it's just comments made by people on a forum on a porn site

 

[StudddAndy]

I totally agree with the part of your post that refers to me, what I did, the way I said what I said. As punishment, I have had people tie me to a Jeep and drag me down the streets in this small town to publicly excoriate me for my misdeeds. These people didn't know exactly what I had done, and didn't care. But they DID know I probably deserved it, for whatever I'd done. And, I'm pretty sure I'll NEVER do that again.

I am a totally repentant soul and apologetic.

If this doesn't work, I have a group of hot friends that have agreed to tie me up out by the pool and piss all over me. I am resolved to escalate the punishment until I have clearly learned my lesson.

Even though I'm a little old and possibly a little senile, I still love the forum and I still love the forumites, and I still love Broke Straight Boys

I am resolved NOT to let a little senility overflow onto an otherwise VERY copacetic relationship on this fine Membership Chat Forum.

I hate to say it, but old people can be shitheads sometimes. But I'm trying to reform.

 

[louis33705]

I joined this forum three years ago (I thought longer). I had subscribed to the Broke Straight Boys site a long while before I actually joined the forum. What lead me to register was a thread about a memorial to dead porn stars. I wanted to contribute to the conversation so I registered. This conversation was on the other side in the non-porn area. It was in the general area that I participated mostly and even made some friends. I did make comments on the porn side, but they were limited to a few words, no strong opinions one way or another. The way I looked at it is that these boys make the decision to do porn. They put themselves out there for the purpose of entertainment. Many have suffered consequences from family and friends from their participation here. They made that decision. Yet, they are good boys. So, I always asked, "Why should they be subjected to ridicule and insults whenever a scene did not meet the expectations of a particular or few forum members?" This really bothered me. And, it is this that led me to participate more in the general section of this forum. I have received favorable comments on my posts as well as having been crucified for my opinions even to the point where one forum member threatened to hunt me down and beat me to death.

I have survived and on each occasion I stand taller knowing that my critics cannot get into my head and bring me down. This is the reason I have stayed here.

 

[louis33705]

This forum was started to bring the subscribed members together to meet and greet. It was a place to share thoughts, opinions and numerous other topics from music to sports, to politics and at times personal experiences. This forum went way beyond that of just a porn site forum. It was a gathering of friends to sit and chat what ever was in their minds. It all started with "Just One Touch" on the keyboard. Keep this in mind and it will last for always.

 

[Bartirah]

Stowe 1, I know you don't care what people think about you but I really like you!

Anyway... When I got here, not long ago, Mike, Tampa, Johnny were all very nice to me. Specially Mike. And soon I started checking the forum many times a day because it was so nice. Mike and I didn't always have the same opinion about things but he was always very respectful and encouraged me not to take thing personally.

So, to me, the forum is not the same without him and Johnny and for the posts on this thread I have noticed more people like them than dislike them, so maybe they should not feel in need to be quiet... If one or two people dislike your sayings maybe they can just stop reading your posts... All the others like reading it and miss you!!!

 

[Leedwb]

Mike, I think a lot of you and have had absolutely no problems with you but your post directed at me was a cheap shot. I have not "attacked" you in any way and if some other forumite thinks I have attacked inappropriately, why not let THEM handle their own business. I can say that I have never called anyone a name or told them to go to hell on this forum until after it happened to me, can your friend say the same? I have purposely left names out of my posts because the person(s) I may have had issues with are grown men who should be able to speak for themselves. Maybe if other forum members would let people handle their own problems, it would work out better. That being said, I understand your desire to protect your friend but don't make things sound like I had a battle with an angel. Sorry guys, and just when I had made up my mind to just shut up and get along, so much for that I guess.

 

[stowe1]

I totally agree with the part of your post that refers to me, what I did, the way I said what I said. As punishment, I have had people tie me to a Jeep and drag me down the streets in this small town to publicly excoriate me for my misdeeds. These people didn't know exactly what I had done, and didn't care. But they DID know I probably deserved it, for whatever I'd done. And, I'm pretty sure I'll NEVER do that again.

I am a totally repentant soul and apologetic.

If this doesn't work, I have a group of hot friends that have agreed to tie me up out by the pool and piss all over me. I am resolved to escalate the punishment until I have clearly learned my lesson.

Even though I'm a little old and possibly a little senile, I still love the forum and I still love the forumites, and I still love Broke Straight Boys

I am resolved NOT to let a little senility overflow onto an otherwise VERY copacetic relationship on this fine Membership Chat Forum.

I hate to say it, but old people can be shitheads sometimes. But I'm trying to reform.

Stud - I have always admired your ways with words and sense of humor, both of which are displayed here. Although I am concerned that you just might like that second punishment by the pool - lol !!!

Seriously "S" - this is your second public apology and that's more than enough. The first was most eloquent and heartfelt. Now I think it is time for all of us to start rebuilding the forum which will greatly be aided by whatever private outreach you can do to those who were most aggrieved.

As for me, I don't hold grudges. Never have except one time when someone had mistreated and caused psychological pain to the first man I ever loved. So you and I are good to go!! Let's get back to talking about the idiot in the White House - lol !!! All of us, myself included, have really been ignoring the "other side" of the forum and there's just so much out there to talk about.