Ace Carter being cancelled.

[Jaybifla]

Ok, have y’all heard about the Ace Carter incident? Apparently he made a video with a young looking porn creator named Spikey Dee and labeled it as fucking his son before school. Spikey Dee is in his early 20s but is seen at the beginning of the video wearing pajamas, sleeping in a twin size bed with children’s bed sheets, holding a teddy bear. Twitter has gone berserk over it. They call it promoting pedophilia and incest. Obviously everyone should be smart enough to know that both men are in fact adults and not related but is this the type of porn that should be promoted as fantasy? Ace Carter has responded and asked why the gay community hasn’t gone after other sites that promote daddy/son or stepson porn as fantasy. I see his point. However, I don’t subscribe to those sites and I don’t enjoy seeing it on my timeline. Why is this type of porn so popular with people?

 

[kgmets2]

Ok, have y’all heard about the Ace Carter incident? Apparently he made a video with a young looking porn creator named Spikey Dee and labeled it as fucking his son before school. Spikey Dee is in his early 20s but is seen at the beginning of the video wearing pajamas, sleeping in a twin size bed with children’s bed sheets, holding a teddy bear. Twitter has gone berserk over it. They call it promoting pedophilia and incest. Obviously everyone should be smart enough to know that both men are in fact adults and not related but is this the type of porn that should be promoted as fantasy? Ace Carter has responded and asked why the gay community hasn’t gone after other sites that promote daddy/son or stepson porn as fantasy. I see his point. However, I don’t subscribe to those sites and I don’t enjoy seeing it on my timeline. Why is this type of porn so popular with people?

Very good question. I prefer twink on twink (18 plus of course) as ages 18-22 are the peak of a young man's sexual beauty, and view twink on daddy as 50% less than what I prefer, but no question the last few years there has been a fad market for that.

 

[Bill143]

I am by no means speaking for the Gay community, I am only giving my opinion. I don't visit those site because I prefer above the age of 25 (still trying to figure out why I stay on this site given the average age of models here).

To your question I would venture to say 'that promote daddy/son or stepson porn as fantasy' have warnings and disclaimers plus age id records on file. That is why I am not outraged. I would be outraged at any site promoting or engageing in sexual acts with a minor.

'Why is this type of porn so popular with people?' I would just like to mention that there are other sites that promote daddy/daughter or stepdaughter porn as fantasy.

As to X (formally known as twitter), run as far and as fast as you can from it. Same with Facebook/Meta.

Just my two cents.

 

[legend0007]

Very good question. I prefer twink on twink (18 plus of course) as ages 18-22 are the peak of a young man's sexual beauty, and view twink on daddy as 50% less than what I prefer, but no question the last few years there has been a fad market for that.

ouch just kiddin x

 

[legend0007]

Ok, have y’all heard about the Ace Carter incident? Apparently he made a video with a young looking porn creator named Spikey Dee and labeled it as fucking his son before school. Spikey Dee is in his early 20s but is seen at the beginning of the video wearing pajamas, sleeping in a twin size bed with children’s bed sheets, holding a teddy bear. Twitter has gone berserk over it. They call it promoting pedophilia and incest. Obviously everyone should be smart enough to know that both men are in fact adults and not related but is this the type of porn that should be promoted as fantasy? Ace Carter has responded and asked why the gay community hasn’t gone after other sites that promote daddy/son or stepson porn as fantasy. I see his point. However, I don’t subscribe to those sites and I don’t enjoy seeing it on my timeline. Why is this type of porn so popular with people?

Hmm, when Jay posts it tends to be interesting doesn't it. I'll try not to make myself sound like a dick because this is a controversial subject.

First I really like spikey dee; have seen him before and think he's a really good top.

I searched him on X because of Jay's comments and found a post where he is getting railed and says 'daddy loves stretching my hole before school'. It's a bit risky isn't it? I think he's actually older than me, but maybe because of his hairstyle he creates this image of being younger.

I have come across this before; I have had my hair longer and get totally different attention when I was in the club, to when I have my hair short. Guys want and expect different things just by changing your hair - not sure how relevant this is, just mentioning it. It's funny, just cutting my hair gets less attention from slightly older guys looking for a bottom, and gets more from guys more my own age.

There is def a section that likes younger guys which I have encountered, and prolly benefited from this to be fair. But they may be mixed in with guys who prefer more feminine boys.

Back to Spikey dee, the porn is obviously fantasy so nothing actually wrong is happening, but is it sick to recreate that fantasy? I have a lot of pretty extreme thoughts so I have to be careful of judging others, but I think thats the question.

I used to look young and have come across this fantasy online or on apps, and even in real life when blokes wanted to make out I was younger, or their family member (a big one), and have gone along with it, I think it's quite common. I enjoyed the lack of power and submissive aspects of these fantasies however I can understand people being critical of this roleplay.

 

[legend0007]

That's what I'm on about; just looking through his twitter, he has nice photos, but its full of comments like "so innocent" - I like this photo but is it wrong?

 

[Jaybifla]

I think the majority of gay people that have issues with this particular scene was that they used children’s bedsheets on a twin bed in a child’s bedroom and had Spikey Dee holding a teddy bear. It was definitely role playing pedophilia. And I do believe Spikey is in his early to mid 20s and just has an extremely young look. There certainly isn’t anything illegal going on in the scene. Do you think Ace Carter and Spikey Dee crossed the line on fantasy role play? Personally, I do. As far as Ace’s response asking why the community doesn’t speak up about studios that do the same….I dont subscribe to this type of porn. It’s not my thing. And I don’t know why it’s a thing. I do see Ace’s point tho.
Most people are offended and basically canceling Ace for it. Not sure about Spikey for his involvement. I think canceling either is a bit much. They’re both young and will look back on this one day and realize it was probably not a good idea.

 

[BSB-Brock]

Definitely was an interesting choice in direction. I feel that there are also several other types of kinks/fetishes that push the boundaries of could be considered morally acceptable.

For example, the practice of wearing a diaper and dressing up as a baby. I’m not familiar with the details of it but I think this specific practice doesn’t involve sex; however, some could still say it pushes pedo agenda.

Also take a look at “Lolita culture” where you see people of all ages dress in a fashion and act in a style like that of a very young child. This isn’t a kink nor a fetish, but it can still bend one’s idea of morals.

On the topic of Spikey Dee, I did see the video and thought it was a very strange choice to include certain props, but I also did not see it as any different to a “uncle walked in on us watching porn and teaches us a lesson” style of video.

At the end of the day, porn is fiction. You see other works of fiction like Game of Thrones where the main character is 14 and you see her getting fucked in every other scene, but the actress is over 18 so it’s fine. Where as the contrast that to the “Cuties” incident on Netflix, while it was this fictional they put actual underaged actors in provocative situations.

 

[GoneWithTheWind]

Sadly many arguments are seen as black and white, I don't see much room for grey when it comes to teddy bears in porn. I also don't feel like a porn star has an easily tarnishable reputation, but with no loss there will be no lesson learned. Someone will see this young guy pretending to be underage, and think it's ok to replicate. All it takes is 1 incident and probability says it will happen.

 

[chac54]

I'm gonna date myself a bit here, but look up Sammy Case and more recently Austin Young. Both are young looking. Hell half of 8teenboy/helix are in that category. It's definitely a touchy subject, and I do like Twink porn, but once you start with props and making it look underage, that's a nope from me. I don't want anything to do with that.

 

[kgmets2]

Definitely was an interesting choice in direction. I feel that there are also several other types of kinks/fetishes that push the boundaries of could be considered morally acceptable.

For example, the practice of wearing a diaper and dressing up as a baby. I’m not familiar with the details of it but I think this specific practice doesn’t involve sex; however, some could still say it pushes pedo agenda.

Also take a look at “Lolita culture” where you see people of all ages dress in a fashion and act in a style like that of a very young child. This isn’t a kink nor a fetish, but it can still bend one’s idea of morals.

On the topic of Spikey Dee, I did see the video and thought it was a very strange choice to include certain props, but I also did not see it as any different to a “uncle walked in on us watching porn and teaches us a lesson” style of video.

At the end of the day, porn is fiction. You see other works of fiction like Game of Thrones where the main character is 14 and you see her getting fucked in every other scene, but the actress is over 18 so it’s fine. Where as the contrast that to the “Cuties” incident on Netflix, while it was this fictional they put actual underaged actors in provocative situations.

Thanks for your analysis from your perspective.

 

[kgmets2]

I'm gonna date myself a bit here, but look up Sammy Case and more recently Austin Young. Both are young looking. Hell half of 8teenboy/helix are in that category. It's definitely a touchy subject, and I do like Twink porn, but once you start with props and making it look underage, that's a nope from me. I don't want anything to do with that.

Agreed, that's why studios are required to check and keep on file ID to verify that all models are at least 18 years of age. Where the controversy kicks in is where perfectly legal 18-25 year old youthful looking models are portraying under age boys having sex, such as the newer fad studios of underaged boy scouts having sex with their adult scoutmasters.

 

[juanjo]

There have been any number of porns done both straight and gay where incest was involved. Family Cuck, Gaycest, and Family Fun are just three I have run across over the years. Ethan Steel did a few videos for Family Cuck. And many, more mainstream porn studios toss in those step-brother and/or step-father scenes with regularity. And our straight brothers have the step-mother/step-sister videos as well. It's been around for some time. Then there is the Lollipop Boys, a studio I ran across some years ago on Pornhub that used legal-age guys but had them dressed as youngsters and in bedrooms decorated like they were 12 years old. I enjoy a good Twink video - I was and still am fond of Bel Ami and some American studios mentioned above by others. But incest was never my thing nor underage guys. I have always been very careful about that issue.

 

[Bill143]

There have been any number of porns done both straight and gay where incest was involved. Family Cuck, Gaycest, and Family Fun are just three I have run across over the years. Ethan Steel did a few videos for Family Cuck. And many, more mainstream porn studios toss in those step-brother and/or step-father scenes with regularity. And our straight brothers have the step-mother/step-sister videos as well. It's been around for some time. Then there is the Lollipop Boys, a studio I ran across some years ago on Pornhub that used legal-age guys but had them dressed as youngsters and in bedrooms decorated like they were 12 years old. I enjoy a good Twink video - I was and still am fond of Bel Ami and some American studios mentioned above by others. But incest was never my thing nor underage guys. I have always been very careful about that issue.

All very good and valid points. I appreciate your thouhts on the subject because it sounds like what I said up-thread. I hope because you are a established member, you do not get boycotted for what you said here as it seems as I have been on this board since my comment in this thread. Go in peace my brother.

 

[Jaybifla]

Well there’s been an update on Ace Carter. He tweeted that only fans has deleted any of the videos he has posted that uses the word “daddy” in them.

 

[mikeyank]

All very good and valid points. I appreciate your thouhts on the subject because it sounds like what I said up-thread. I hope because you are an established member, you do not get boycotted for what you said here as it seems as I have been on this board since my comment in this thread. Go in peace my brother.

Bill. I love having you on the forum very much. I don’t know what you mean by boycotted, but from my perspective you are a very, very welcome addition to the forum and I hope you keep posting more and more. You are terrific.