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[joninliverton]

To answer the question: yes keep posting Jack. Like it was said this forum is your as well. My only problem is your crude honesty! I respect honesty above all, but even you know you could word things different out of respect to other formites. Example: you just posted on the upcoming scene with Damien & Tyler. "I'll be waiting with my barf bag" really come on Jack. A simple I don't care for either model or simply don't say anything. So keep posting and try and use some cooth!!

I agree with Peter and may I also add that maybe you are using this forum as an extension to your psychotherapist sessions. Please curtail your bitterness and extreme PTSD to those sessions, and then we all may get along better - including the aforementioned models.

 

[nobelegg]

I agree with Peter and may I also add that maybe you are using this forum as an extension to your psychotherapist sessions. Please curtail your bitterness and extreme PTSD to those sessions, and then we all may get along better - including the aforementioned models.

Duly noted. However, the aforementioned model outside my favour took the first stab, and I have never been one to allow one to smite me and then I turn the other cheek. I lay down for no one, and when someone takes a shot at me, the game is afoot.

Now that you have chided me, burn-a-butt is fair play. I would appreciate your expressing the same consideration to Kyle. I am willing to be civil and overlook what has been done.

 

[BSBPaul]

Thank you. I did not expect such kindness from you. I also did not think you would lie.

I don't think he lied. I think he was referring to his own opinion. I feel the same way, but not negatively towards your opinions. You are vivid and keep some on their feet. That's good. Although most of your posts are brutally honest, that's just the thing, they're your honesty.

 

[nobelegg]

I don't think he lied. I think he was referring to his own opinion. I feel the same way, but not negatively towards your opinions. You are vivid and keep some on their feet. That's good. Although most of your posts are brutally honest, that's just the thing, they're your honesty.

Paul, you and I have had our tiffs, and they were entirely my fault due to a personal matter (I am uncertain if you know about that, but I would like to tell you, if you please.) I am an arse hole; we all know that. In truth, I really like Damien more than I am willing to confess. I suppose I was smitten by Vadim Black and listened with too much intensity to his bad-mouthing Damien and let it affect me. I so want to apologize to Damien, but I think it may be too late. You are his friend; this much is definitely certain and even more overt. When I referred to Tyler's being a plum and Damien's being a prune, I was referring to experience, not to their personal physiques or ages. I often use analogies, but more often than not, I have to remember most people neither understand my analogies, nor do they understand my humour.
I would give anything to meet you and Damien someday, but I am most concerned I bit too deep into Damien. I actually feel like shit right now because I sensed I victimized him in some aspect, and he did nothing to me.
Please respond. I value your opinion, Pup.

 

[BSBPaul]

Paul, you and I have had our tiffs, and they were entirely my fault due to a personal matter (I am uncertain if you know about that, but I would like to tell you, if you please.) I am an arse hole; we all know that. In truth, I really like Damien more than I am willing to confess. I suppose I was smitten by Vadim Black and listened with too much intensity to his bad-mouthing Damien and let it affect me. I so want to apologize to Damien, but I think it may be too late. You are his friend; this much is definitely certain and even more overt. When I referred to Tyler's being a plum and Damien's being a prune, I was referring to experience, not to their personal physiques or ages. I often use analogies, but more often than not, I have to remember most people neither understand my analogies, nor do they understand my humour.
I would give anything to meet you and Damien someday, but I am most concerned I bit too deep into Damien. I actually feel like shit right now because I sensed I victimized him in some aspect, and he did nothing to me.
Please respond. I value your opinion, Pup.

Thats heartwarming of you to express that. And I'm sure your "Dimmie" will read and respond accordingly.

 

[nobelegg]

Thats heartwarming of you to express that. And I'm sure your "Dimmie" will read and respond accordingly.

I would love to addressing him as 'Dimmie' again. I am also impressed you picked up on that reference from THE EXORCIST.
Paul, I had a godson I nicknamed Pup the day he was born. I loved him as my own, since my beloved late wife and I lost our only child when he was but eight months old from SIDS. Throughout Pup's life, I was there. I defended him (and actually got into a fight) when a neighbour made fun of his being gay. I bought him cars, saw to his health...you get the idea. He was my surrogate son.
Pup wanted to go into the gay porn business (I produce/direct gay porn videos myself), so I set him up with a friend. He did his scenes and came home for hiatus.
One night, I received a call from his mum, saying Pup did not come home, so I went out looking for him in his usual local haunts. I found him beside a large trash bin, naked and murdered. From what the coroner told me, Pup was sodomized by someone wielding a knife, and they used the same knife to cut his throat out from the inside. I did not want his mum or dad to see him in that condition, so I paid for his casket, funeral, and cremation. (His cremains rest inside my beloved late wife's urn, waiting for me to pass so I can join them and our furchildren and our son. I have the urn above my bed.)
Paul, I tell you this because you and Pup have a most uncanny and remarkable resemblance. When I first saw you on here, I could not help but believe you were Pup, but had I not watched him enter the crematory and had I not found his murdered body, I would still believe it.
For this reason, Pup, I cannot view your scenes. Please do not take umbrage at me for this. I loved Pup; I always shall. Perhaps the love I have for him reaches out to you; I cannot be certain. All I know is I hope - and want - the ultimate best for you in everything, and if ever I can be of humble service, I am at your (and Dimmie's) disposal.
Spanks for reading me out, Pup. It is never easy talking about these things.
Cheers.
Jack

 

[Stripe222]

It's certainly your right to post, as it is for any member.

Writing on a website forum is different than a real interaction with others. It's easy to go over the top with one's opinions. I have just recently begun posting again and what I've noticed is that you post often and sometimes unnecessarily. If there is a model you seem to really dislike, you'll post on the scene page that you won't be watching because they have (enter offense here), but you hope the rest of us enjoy it. Why bother? How does it move the thread forward? You also often derail posts about a scene by being really disrespectful of the models (and some members, but they can take it).

I wrote about this before in the thread where you had a run in with Louis about comments you made about ethnicity.

To paraphrase, these are young guys who for a variety of reasons have decided to do porn and put themselves out there, hoping to make the cash and realizing that their bodies, performances and personalities are going to matter. The key word in that sentence is YOUNG. Harsh criticism and ongoing vendetta's do nothing to help them, offends many members and is generally disruptive and divisive. They do have feelings, and at that age, if you think back far enough, you might remember that words stung more deeply and attacks on your character lingered longer in your mind than they do later in life. Using the forum to cut up a 20 yr old kid is really sad. Making it somehow a "personal offense" is even sadder.

We all comment on the pros and cons of a model, but it can be done without it being personal or offensive. Being a bit diplomatic always trumps being randomly provocative. As you know, the root of provocative is provoke. It indicates aggression and being deliberately hostile and adversarial. To what purpose? Who benefits? On a porn site it's a really, really cheap (and eventually tiresome) thrill.

The models don't owe us the "truth" about who they really are or the lives they lead. They are paid to project (and often create) a persona. This is a PORN site and they don't even use their real names. Porn is a world of fantasy based on scripted sex and models of the moment. The fantasies we have about the models are ours. The truth about their lives is only theirs to tell to whatever extent they feel comfortable with. Making judgements about their character based on a few minutes of banter at the beginning of a scene is pointless. It's just a glimpse, not a documentary.

So, post away, but I hope you'll be mindful of the fact that this is just a forum for us to share opinions, compare dirty thoughts and drool over the models (or not). It's for fun and games. PORN. Being "brutally honest" is for therapy sessions. "Brutally" really has no place here. Simple respectful honesty and humor will suffice.

 

[louis33705]

I hoped for honesty, for anything otherwise or less is a form of disrespect. I should have expected this, but I hoped for something different. Silly me, huh.

:When I read this originally I was confused as to it's meaning. Then I surmised you were referring to the fact no one had responded. In my defense, you posited your original question at 5:06 pm and your second post at 5:59 pm. If I had seen it then, I would have responded. Fact of the matter is that my computer is usually turned off by that hour when I get ready to prepare supper. I eat around 6:00 pm and am in bed by 7. I wake around 4:00 am to watch two episodes of "Smallville" each morning which run between 5 and 7. It is after 7 that I tune into the forum. Check out the latest photo I posted in my album and you will see the kind of "Superite" I am. hehe!

Now back to your original question. In my opinion, everyone is entitled to their opinion. After all, that is a privilege we have been granted as paying subscribers. I have written before that you all will probably never see a negative comment from me. If there is scene or comment I either do not like or agree with, I say nothing and move on. I post photos and videos on various amateur porn sites and have had my share of negative comments. One person in particular continues to say I am "nasty" and "disgusting" because I am not circumcised. I have the option to delete his comments, but I leave them on my page so others can see the type of person he is. Besides, the number of positive comments I receive out number his one negative one.

So, in summary, post away, Sir. It is your privilege.

Gotta go. My cat is calling me through the window so I can let her in to get fed.

Peace!

 

[mikeyank]

To paraphrase, these are young guys who for a variety of reasons have decided to do porn and put themselves out there, hoping to make the cash and realizing that their bodies, performances and personalities are going to matter. The key word in that sentence is YOUNG. Harsh criticism and ongoing vendetta's do nothing to help them, offends many members and is generally disruptive and divisive. They do have feelings, and at that age, if you think back far enough, you might remember that words stung more deeply and attacks on your character lingered longer in your mind than they do later in life. Using the forum to cut up a 20 yr old kid is really sad. Making it somehow a "personal offense" is even sadder.

We all comment on the pros and cons of a model, but it can be done without it being personal or offensive. Being a bit diplomatic always trumps being randomly provocative. As you know, the root of provocative is provoke. It indicates aggression and being deliberately hostile and adversarial. To what purpose? Who benefits? On a porn site it's a really, really cheap (and eventually tiresome) thrill.

The models don't owe us the "truth" about who they really are or the lives they lead. They are paid to project (and often create) a persona. This is a PORN site and they don't even use their real names. Porn is a world of fantasy based on scripted sex and models of the moment. The fantasies we have about the models are ours. The truth about their lives is only theirs to tell to whatever extent they feel comfortable with. Making judgements about their character based on a few minutes of banter at the beginning of a scene is pointless. It's just a glimpse, not a documentary.

So, post away, but I hope you'll be mindful of the fact that this is just a forum for us to share opinions, compare dirty thoughts and drool over the models (or not). It's for fun and games. PORN. Being "brutally honest" is for therapy sessions. "Brutally" really has no place here. Simple respectful honesty and humor will suffice.

I haven't commented on this thread, as it is up to any individual member to decide for themselves whether to post, but Stripe has explained exactly how I feel about severe criticisms of any of the young men who work on this site as a model. I agree that they are young men who have all arrived on Broke Straight Boys due to factors in their own private lives, some of which may have been unpleasant and I feel it is very WRONG to willfully say hurtful things about them on this forum, or on the scene page provided by management. I also agree that when directing comments to the young men themselves, "brutal honesty" is not necessary, and in my opinion is very much inappropriate.

 

[advocate88]

Say what you want. I am sorry I do not agree with you in my posts, but I am not kissing your arse. I speak my mind. If that disturbs you, oh well. Put me on your IGNORE list.

No, no, no. This is one of the things that you do that I think you should stop doing (although I certainly don't think you should stop posting; like all of us, that's your prerogative). I didn't say or imply that I wanted you to stop posting because you disagree with me, because you don't kiss my ass, or because you speak your mind. Responding the way you did isn't playing fair; it implies that my honest post (which you ASKED for) was made because of motivations I don't possess and rewrites what I was saying to something no one could possibly agree with. This is called the straw man fallacy, but as you like to point out, you're a college man. So no doubt you already knew that. Another good example of you doing this is earlier in the thread when you said that Damien was trying to ban you because you criticized him.

So don't stop posting, but please, stop posting that kind of bullshit.

 

[nobelegg]

No, no, no. This is one of the things that you do that I think you should stop doing (although I certainly don't think you should stop posting; like all of us, that's your prerogative). I didn't say or imply that I wanted you to stop posting because you disagree with me, because you don't kiss my ass, or because you speak your mind. Responding the way you did isn't playing fair; it implies that my honest post (which you ASKED for) was made because of motivations I don't possess and rewrites what I was saying to something no one could possibly agree with. This is called the straw man fallacy, but as you like to point out, you're a college man. So no doubt you already knew that. Another good example of you doing this is earlier in the thread when you said that Damien was trying to ban you because you criticized him.

So don't stop posting, but please, stop posting that kind of bullshit.

MikeYank/Stripe: When I am initially attacked, I am hardly going to sit back and allow it. There are "factors" with which you are unaware. As much as you are popular in the forum, that matters nothing to me. I speak my mind, and while diplomacy and I rarely walk down the aisle together, I do not provide lip service to accentuate any lustful desire I may have. Many times I have noticed some on here stop right on the edge of expounding on an opinion in an opposite direction as if they are doing so to remain in a pseudo grace accorded by the models. It is what models are paid to do, and I confess many are quite expert of it, which earns my compliment. To me, anyone in the forum who does that is phony and living in an outer world of dreams that shall never be. I am pleased as punch you do not always agree with me, as this provides me growth and a learning experience. However, one thing I think most miss on the road to the cum rag is they are not always right, either. I would rather be the real me and disliked than a phony who is on the edge of a bogus societal acceptance, all because I lace my words with sugar.

Advocate: One man's meat is another man's poison. I do not recall ever using a profane word toward you. I am impressed with the caliber of disrespect and disdain you possess and vividly exerted. Bravo!

 

[BSBZenoKostas]

I suppose I was smitten by Vadim Black and listened with too much intensity to his bad-mouthing Damien and let it affect me.

So wait, when did this happen?
Is it still available to view?

 

[nobelegg]

I suppose I was smitten by Vadim Black and listened with too much intensity to his bad-mouthing Damien and let it affect me.

So wait, when did this happen?
Is it still available to view?

Zeno Kostas, I do not sense you are able to be persuaded by anyone who has a sliver more experience than you do. You do not impress me as being that gullible, but I respect your admitting the personally fallacy. You are on your way up a mountain of popularity, but please watch and listen to the big boulders at the top of the mountain you are ascending. They can surely help you in every aspect. And while you are at it, stay true to yourself and remain yourself. Your fan base appreciates you as you are, so keep a pretentious demeanour out of your way. Such a crag can cause you to stumble.

 

[mikeyank]

MikeYank/Stripe: When I am initially attacked, I am hardly going to sit back and allow it. There are "factors" with which you are unaware. As much as you are popular in the forum, that matters nothing to me. I speak my mind, and while diplomacy and I rarely walk down the aisle together, I do not provide lip service to accentuate any lustful desire I may have. Many times I have noticed some on here stop right on the edge of expounding on an opinion in an opposite direction as if they are doing so to remain in a pseudo grace accorded by the models. It is what models are paid to do, and I confess many are quite expert of it, which earns my compliment. To me, anyone in the forum who does that is phony and living in an outer world of dreams that shall never be. I am pleased as punch you do not always agree with me, as this provides me growth and a learning experience. However, one thing I think most miss on the road to the cum rag is they are not always right, either. I would rather be the real me and disliked than a phony who is on the edge of a bogus societal acceptance, all because I lace my words with sugar.

Advocate: One man's meat is another man's poison. I do not recall ever using a profane word toward you. I am impressed with the caliber of disrespect and disdain you possess and vividly exerted. Bravo!

Jack,

I said this to you in a private message too. I used to "hire" young men of approximately 18-25 off of the streets, and from certain bars in Fort Lauderdale from the mid 1980's through approximately 2000 while on vacation, and over that ten to fifteen year period it was evident to me that so many of them had similar traits, and similar backgrounds when I got to talk to them about their childhoods and adolescence as they told me how they wound up living on the streets and in very transitory accommodations in Fort Lauderdale during the winter and spring tourist and spring break season.

And in listening to the models on Broke Straight Boys from David through Johnny, talk about their lives, they too often come from similar backgrounds. Many come from broken homes, and had problems with parents, grandparents or step parents. Many were drinkers and more were drug users, and because of their youth and good looks they discovered that they could earn money with their bodies. I often would establish a "relationship" with my favorite guys in Fort Lauderdale and worked out a regular arrangement where they would visit my motel room each late afternoon around the same time, and after having "fun", I would sometimes buy them dinner, and in one case I met two buddies who I saw each day, and took them to a water park, and to play miniature golf, or sometimes just hanging out at my motel watching television, and they seemed to enjoy the company of an older man, although they claimed their sexual preference to be hetero, they found that I was a friendly non-threatening guy.

As I see so many similar traits in the Broke Straight Boys models, I always try very hard to never insult or belittle any of the models who participate on the forum. Many have not had an easy time in life and with older people in authority, and by being polite and respectful to these guys takes little effort on my part, and if it can make them feel better about themselves, then I feel it is a good thing.

I have no fantasies of meeting the models in real life, other than at a Pride event as I did in 2012, meeting the charming Jason and Blake, as well as Denver and Cole Gartner of College Dudes. So I have no ulterior motive in being complementary to the models who post other than to try to show them my appreciation for entertaining me, and hopefully helping raise their own self esteem.

 

[nobelegg]

Jack,

I said this to you in a private message too. I used to "hire" young men of approximately 18-25 off of the streets, and from certain bars in Fort Lauderdale from the mid 1980's through approximately 2000 while on vacation, and over that ten to fifteen year period it was evident to me that so many of them had similar traits, and similar backgrounds when I got to talk to them about their childhoods and adolescence as they told me how they wound up living on the streets and in very transitory accommodations in Fort Lauderdale during the winter and spring tourist and spring break season.

And in listening to the models on Broke Straight Boys from David through Johnny, talk about their lives, they too often come from similar backgrounds. Many come from broken homes, and had problems with parents, grandparents or step parents. Many were drinkers and more were drug users, and because of their youth and good looks they discovered that they could earn money with their bodies. I often would establish a "relationship" with my favorite guys in Fort Lauderdale and worked out a regular arrangement where they would visit my motel room each late afternoon around the same time, and after having "fun", I would sometimes buy them dinner, and in one case I met two buddies who I saw each day, and took them to a water park, and to play miniature golf, or sometimes just hanging out at my motel watching television, and they seemed to enjoy the company of an older man, although they claimed their sexual preference to be hetero, they found that I was a friendly non-threatening guy.

As I see so many similar traits in the Broke Straight Boys models, I always try very hard to never insult or belittle any of the models who participate on the forum. Many have not had an easy time in life and with older people in authority, and by being polite and respectful to these guys takes little effort on my part, and if it can make them feel better about themselves, then I feel it is a good thing.

I have no fantasies of meeting the models in real life, other than at a Pride event as I did in 2012, meeting the charming Jason and Blake, as well as Denver and Cole Gartner of College Dudes. So I have no ulterior motive in being complementary to the models who post other than to try to show them my appreciation for entertaining me, and hopefully helping raise their own self esteem.

Good morning, MikeYank. I always enjoy reading your posts, although your lectures tend to irk me, but I am not going to refrain from expressing as such. I appreciate the time you take to explain your experiences with me, but I must confess I struggle with the veracity expressed by the models on here. They know people are going to be ogling them and physically attracted to them. Part of their on-screen magic - even persona - is to lure the subscriber base to keep coming back each month.

I commend you for your concern toward those younger lads who are struggling with life, in general or in toto. I had deduced you were an incredible human being well before you divulged this particular story to me. I, too, have been to Lauderdale, visited a couple of bars for Tea Dances, etc. I saw those who loitered around, and my heart reached out to them, but my wallet stayed put. They reminded me of the Interstate exit ramps panhandlers, who have the cardboard signs saying they are hungry, yet when you give them food, they reject it, stating they wanted money so they could buy what they want. My late wife (in pace requiescat) and I once watched one such panhandler. He had his own exit ramp (as did others; they were at their stations each day) when weather permitted. On this particular day, we watched as he completed his "shift", when a rather fancy SUV picked him up. Thinking it could have been a fluke, we did the same thing a week or so later. There it was again, the same SUV, no doubt with other panhandlers inside it. Being a panhandler is a lucrative job, but it is hardly based upon honesty.
The last year of her life, my late wife and I also visited the King Tut exposition in Chicago. While there, we decided to take in a flick, CONSTANTINE, at a nearby cinema. Outside the cinema were about a half-dozen young men, merely sitting on the concrete steps leading to the cinema doors. An older man entering behind us whispered something to one of the young men. Minutes later, they were inside the cinema and seated in the very auditorium where we were seated in the nose-bleed section. I do not think I need to explain what occurred therein, but I am confident you can deduce this with little problem.
I tell you this, MikeYank, because I have experienced young men who are on the level; they make it exceptionally difficult for those you believe are sincere on websites such as this. They make it even more difficult for me to add credence to their stories when they are being interviewed in a BTS shoot. I can concede my personal cynicism in most cases is heavily unfounded as well as unfair to the particular model. Additionally, my cynicism causes me more problems than solutions. (This is another reason why I undergo three acute PTSD psychotherapy sessions/week.)
Spanks for your time and attention.
Cheers.
Jack

 

[tampa24]

To paraphrase, these are young guys who for a variety of reasons have decided to do porn and put themselves out there, hoping to make the cash and realizing that their bodies, performances and personalities are going to matter. The key word in that sentence is YOUNG. Harsh criticism and ongoing vendetta's do nothing to help them, offends many members and is generally disruptive and divisive. They do have feelings, and at that age, if you think back far enough, you might remember that words stung more deeply and attacks on your character lingered longer in your mind than they do later in life. Using the forum to cut up a 20 yr old kid is really sad. Making it somehow a "personal offense" is even sadder.

We all comment on the pros and cons of a model, but it can be done without it being personal or offensive. Being a bit diplomatic always trumps being randomly provocative. As you know, the root of provocative is provoke. It indicates aggression and being deliberately hostile and adversarial. To what purpose? Who benefits? On a porn site it's a really, really cheap (and eventually tiresome) thrill.

The models don't owe us the "truth" about who they really are or the lives they lead. They are paid to project (and often create) a persona. This is a PORN site and they don't even use their real names. Porn is a world of fantasy based on scripted sex and models of the moment. The fantasies we have about the models are ours. The truth about their lives is only theirs to tell to whatever extent they feel comfortable with. Making judgements about their character based on a few minutes of banter at the beginning of a scene is pointless. It's just a glimpse, not a documentary.

"Brutally" really has no place here. Simple respectful honesty and humor will suffice.

Great input Stripe. Thank you.

Okay Jack,

I'll jump in. First off, I will say that this forum is not all about you. Just as it is never about any one member. We don't owe you any explanations or apologies for either not responding at all or not responding quickly enough (for your own liking) to whatever you post. We're nobody's puppets on a string.

Having said that, I think Stripe says it pretty well. It's pretty easy for someone with a few decades more of life experience to pick apart all of the perceived faults, weaknesses, immaturity, ego, etc, of guys who are 18-24. How many of us at 20 would have passed the same test? To have yourself be judged at 20 (with "brutal honesty") by a 60 year old stranger is something that would have really shaken me, and I presume many of us at that age. How is that fair to them? It would be akin to being bullied on the elementary school playground by a high school senior.

You speak of how you were brutalized at a young age by people older than you and in positions of greater authority...and how awful it was for you. Do you not see a similar pattern here? I don't pardon or excuse anything that happened to you physically, emotionally or psychologically. It was an atrocious abuse of power! It seems to me though that you of all people would want to protect younger people, and offer any criticism or advice gently. And then only for the purposes of giving them the benefit of your life experience to hopefully help them to improve themselves. Using later adulthood experience, worldliness and college vocabulary to rip the models to bits is not a sport any of us should be indulging in. Just because some of us in here can never means that any of us should. It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway...that we should obviously not be doing it to each other either.

That doesn't mean that we have to kiss every model's a** or say we like every scene when we don't. (The same goes for how we relate to other members of the forum.) It also doesn't mean that we are not allowed to voice any opinions that are not complimentary. But a little decorum, tact, and diplomacy go a long way.

As to whether you should keep posting or not, I won't offer an opinion. I don't know if you are only attempting to play somewhat nice so that you won't be banned again. The passive-aggressive pattern is quite transparent and becoming tedious. When you're nice, you're wonderful. When you're not nice...you're brutal. That may be a pattern you like. Or it may be one you don't feel you can control. Speaking your mind with brutal honesty and being strongly opinionated may be something you're proud of. But that doesn't mean, even in a free society, that everybody else has to put up with it...whether they like it or not. You're a very intelligent person. If you want to remain a contributor here in the forum you know what it will take for you to do that. Whether you are willing or able to do that is a question only you can answer.

 

[nobelegg]

Great input Stripe. Thank you.

Okay Jack,

I'll jump in. First off, I will say that this forum is not all about you. Just as it is never about any one member. We don't owe you any explanations or apologies for either not responding at all or not responding quickly enough (for your own liking) to whatever you post. We're nobody's puppets on a string.

Having said that, I think Stripe says it pretty well. It's pretty easy for someone with a few decades more of life experience to pick apart all of the perceived faults, weaknesses, immaturity, ego, etc, of guys who are 18-24. How many of us at 20 would have passed the same test? To have yourself be judged at 20 (with "brutal honesty") by a 60 year old stranger is something that would have really shaken me, and I presume many of us at that age. How is that fair to them? It would be akin to being bullied on the elementary school playground by a high school senior.

You speak of how you were brutalized at a young age by people older than you and in positions of greater authority and how awful it was for you. Do you not see a similar pattern here? I don't pardon or excuse anything that happened to you physically, emotionally or psychologically. It was an atrocious abuse of power! It seems to me though that you of all people would want to protect younger people, and offer any criticism or advice gently. And then only for the purposes of giving them the benefit of your life experience to hopefully help them to improve themselves. Using later adulthood experience, worldliness and college vocabulary to rip the models to bits is not a sport any of us should be indulging in. Just because some of us in here can never means that any of us should. It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway...that we should obviously not be doing it to each other either.

That doesn't mean that we have to kiss every model's a** or say we like every scene when we don't. (The same goes for how we relate to other members of the forum.) It also doesn't mean that we are not allowed to voice any opinions that are not complimentary. But a little decorum, tact, and diplomacy go a long way.

As to whether you should keep posting or not, I won't offer an opinion. I don't know if you are only attempting to play somewhat nice so that you won't be banned again. The passive-aggressive pattern is quite transparent and becoming tedious. When you're nice, you're wonderful. When you're not nice...you're brutal. That may be a pattern you like. Or it may be one you don't feel you can control. Speaking your mind with brutal honesty and being strongly opinionated, may be something you're proud of. But that doesn't mean, even in a free society, that everybody else has to put up with it...whether they like it or not. You're a very intelligent person. If you want to remain a contributor here in the forum you know what it will take for you to do that. Whether you are willing or able to do that is a question only you can answer.

Good morning, Tampa.
Spanks for your input. I love the way you express yourself, even at my own emotional expense. Your comments are noted.
Jack

 

[mikeyank]

.............You speak of how you were brutalized at a young age by people older than you and in positions of greater authority and how awful it was for you. Do you not see a similar pattern here? I don't pardon or excuse anything that happened to you physically, emotionally or psychologically. It was an atrocious abuse of power! It seems to me though that you of all people would want to protect younger people, and offer any criticism or advice gently. And then only for the purposes of giving them the benefit of your life experience to hopefully help them to improve themselves.

Tampa, that is something that I've been thinking too, how Jack has told us time and time again about his own abusive childhood, and I wonder why he at times tries to do the same things with his words to the young men who perform on the site.

And along the same lines of playing amateur psychiatrist here, I also find it interesting how Jack's fetish is to administer spankings to a young man's bare behind, but he also will start a thread here, "throwing himself on the mercy of the forum", by asking if we think that he should continue posting here, as if he is inviting for us to virtually "spank" him as well. Very interesting.

It is actually none of my business to try to analyze Jack, but as long as he started this thread and seems interested in what we all have to say about him, I too am throwing in my on Jack.

 

[louis33705]

Speaking of panhandlers - I worked near a very busy intersection. We had panhandlers on that corner from time to time. One day after work, as I approached the intersection I noticed a bunch of college students standing on the medium carrying signs which said, "Why lie, I need money for beer" I had never seen so many cars stop and put money into their cans. (Just a little slight humor to lighten up the conversation.)

I have posted my horrific experiences as a young man in other threads here. If porn had been available back then as it is today, I probably would have become a porn model as well. Instead, I became a male prostitute for whatever personal reasons I had. I too did it for the money. This is why I admire and applaud the models of Broke Straight Boys for their courage and willingness to do what they do for our (the viewers) entertainment. At least they have a safe environment which allows them to explore their identities and worth, and possibly escape from their traumatic pasts. Trust me, I have seen a jail cell from the inside more times than I ever want to imagine again. All of our models deserve a huge hug in appreciation for what they do.

 

[stowe1]

Great input Stripe. Thank you.

Okay Jack,

I'll jump in. First off, I will say that this forum is not all about you. Just as it is never about any one member. We don't owe you any explanations or apologies for either not responding at all or not responding quickly enough (for your own liking) to whatever you post. We're nobody's puppets on a string.

Having said that, I think Stripe says it pretty well. It's pretty easy for someone with a few decades more of life experience to pick apart all of the perceived faults, weaknesses, immaturity, ego, etc, of guys who are 18-24. How many of us at 20 would have passed the same test? To have yourself be judged at 20 (with "brutal honesty") by a 60 year old stranger is something that would have really shaken me, and I presume many of us at that age. How is that fair to them? It would be akin to being bullied on the elementary school playground by a high school senior.

You speak of how you were brutalized at a young age by people older than you and in positions of greater authority...and how awful it was for you. Do you not see a similar pattern here? I don't pardon or excuse anything that happened to you physically, emotionally or psychologically. It was an atrocious abuse of power! It seems to me though that you of all people would want to protect younger people, and offer any criticism or advice gently. And then only for the purposes of giving them the benefit of your life experience to hopefully help them to improve themselves. Using later adulthood experience, worldliness and college vocabulary to rip the models to bits is not a sport any of us should be indulging in. Just because some of us in here can never means that any of us should. It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway...that we should obviously not be doing it to each other either.

That doesn't mean that we have to kiss every model's a** or say we like every scene when we don't. (The same goes for how we relate to other members of the forum.) It also doesn't mean that we are not allowed to voice any opinions that are not complimentary. But a little decorum, tact, and diplomacy go a long way.

As to whether you should keep posting or not, I won't offer an opinion. I don't know if you are only attempting to play somewhat nice so that you won't be banned again. The passive-aggressive pattern is quite transparent and becoming tedious. When you're nice, you're wonderful. When you're not nice...you're brutal. That may be a pattern you like. Or it may be one you don't feel you can control. Speaking your mind with brutal honesty and being strongly opinionated may be something you're proud of. But that doesn't mean, even in a free society, that everybody else has to put up with it...whether they like it or not. You're a very intelligent person. If you want to remain a contributor here in the forum you know what it will take for you to do that. Whether you are willing or able to do that is a question only you can answer.

Tampa:

This is one of the most reasoned, well written and thoughtful posts I can remember in the years I've been here. Well done!!