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Br these posts are very comment worthy, but please move them either to your thread or the college athlete thread. This is mikeyank's male sexual beauty without boners or nudity thread!
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This was the forum I meant to post them on & this is what I posted on the other site, KG:
I apologize for posting my pics on this site, Mike , they were meant for the other suite & posted here in error. I ask Broke Straight Boys to delete them.
I apologize for posting my pics on this site, Mike , they were meant for the other suite & posted here in error. I ask Broke Straight Boys to delete them.
mikeyank
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I’d like to address two comments KG made regarding our teams.
And from the other sports thread
You do understand that how silly it may seem to a non-sports fan, but these things do matter to me! I appreciate your understanding.
It is interesting for me to learn that your brother was a Yankee fan, which probably explains your dislike of the Yankees as sibling rivalries in sports can have a long time affect on us. I was in college during 1969 when the Mets made their miracle run and the same year The Yankees had a terrible season at 80-81, finishing 28-1/2 games behind the Baltimore orioles, (who the Mets defeated in the World Series). My college was upstate New York and my dorm wing was filled with Mets fans who “tortured” me with goofing on the hapless Yankees and praising the Mets. That was the year my dislike of the Mets began. These things do I last a lifetime. Lol
And from the other sports thread
You do understand that how silly it may seem to a non-sports fan, but these things do matter to me! I appreciate your understanding.
mikeyank
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We had discussed here both Michael Sam who became the first publicly gay player to be drafted in the NFL in 2014 and Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib who became the first active gay NFL player to come out as gay. We discussed how brave it was for these two men to come out in the generally super masculine, often homophobic world of professional football. This week we got a very real example of this homophobia when Raiders coach Jon Gruden was forced to step down when emails of his from Washington showed who he really is,
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ter-homophobic-racist-and-misogynistic-emails
From the above article among Gruden’s racist, misogynist and homophobic comments in the revealed emails was the following:
“On Monday, the New York Times reviewed further emails which Gruden sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, during his time as an ESPN analyst. In the emails, Gruden called NFL commissioner Roger Goodell a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy”. He also complained that Goodell had pressured then St Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher to draft “queers” after the team selected Michael Sam, who is gay, in the 2014 NFL draft. This year, Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib became the first active gay NFL player to come out as gay. At the time, Gruden told ESPN: “I learned a long time ago what makes a man different is what makes him great.”
Not to indict all NFL players and coaches but there is still that element deep rooted in professional sports and once again I applaud both Sam and Nassib for the bravery to come out in the world of professional sports. What a great example they set for young men and women who are gay and might be afraid to peruse careers in sports.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ter-homophobic-racist-and-misogynistic-emails
From the above article among Gruden’s racist, misogynist and homophobic comments in the revealed emails was the following:
“On Monday, the New York Times reviewed further emails which Gruden sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, during his time as an ESPN analyst. In the emails, Gruden called NFL commissioner Roger Goodell a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy”. He also complained that Goodell had pressured then St Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher to draft “queers” after the team selected Michael Sam, who is gay, in the 2014 NFL draft. This year, Raiders defensive end Carl Nassib became the first active gay NFL player to come out as gay. At the time, Gruden told ESPN: “I learned a long time ago what makes a man different is what makes him great.”
Not to indict all NFL players and coaches but there is still that element deep rooted in professional sports and once again I applaud both Sam and Nassib for the bravery to come out in the world of professional sports. What a great example they set for young men and women who are gay and might be afraid to peruse careers in sports.
mikeyank
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More on Gruden and Nassib
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-ha...assibs-courage-is-so-important-173315556.html
The hateful, antiquated attitudes Jon Gruden expressed are why Carl Nassib's courage is so important.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-ha...assibs-courage-is-so-important-173315556.html
The hateful, antiquated attitudes Jon Gruden expressed are why Carl Nassib's courage is so important.
Gruden's racism and homophobia really let me down. I had higher hopes and expectations for him as a more evolved human being. He's not nearly as evolved or as moral as I had hoped, I guess. But I'm not shocked. I got too jaded by life to be shocked by people like this. I'm glad he resigned. He's got enough (or at least should have enough) to retire and hopefully just fade away gracefully and leave the rest of us alone in peace.
Gruden's racism and homophobia really let me down. I had higher hopes and expectations for him as a more evolved human being. He's not nearly as evolved or as moral as I had hoped, I guess. But I'm not shocked. I got too jaded by life to be shocked by people like this. I'm glad he resigned. He's got enough (or at least should have enough) to retire and hopefully just fade away gracefully and leave the rest of us alone in peace.
Really, we may live in hope but reality is an entirely different proposition.
Really, we may live in hope but reality is an entirely different proposition.
mikeyank
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I totally agree with the author of this article in Out Sports
https://www.outsports.com/2021/10/13/22724887/carl-nassib-jon-gruden-gay-emails-las-vegas-raiders
Carl Nassib takes personal day in wake of Jon Gruden anti-gay comments
Carl Nassib may feel more alone than he felt when he was in the closet. That is a tragedy.
By Cyd Zeigler@CydZeigler Oct 13, 2021, 1:05pm
It was less than four months ago that Nassib made a choice to come out as gay, the only current player in the NFL to do so. He did it on the very team Gruden coached. And he chose to do it during Pride month, our community’s celebration of who we are and our togetherness.
Yet I can only imagine how alone Nassib feels this week.
Today he requested time away from the team, less than two days after Gruden’s awful comments became public.
When Las Vegas Raiders general manager Mike Mayock said today that Nassib “is a community of one that is openly gay” in the NFL, he was not far off. There are great players who are out who came before him, but virtually none of them know what he’s feeling.
I can only imagine the onslaught of requests Nassib has received to talk about Gruden’s slurs. “The gay player for the anti-gay coach.” For the media, it writes itself.
Yet the last person I would try to reach out to right now is Nassib. The emotional toll of coming out and reading reports of your head coach calling the commissioner of the NFL a “faggot,” and Michael Sam a “queer,” has to be rough.
It’s something none of us know. We don’t understand it.
And Nassib has made it clear: He just wants to play football.
I wish I could give Nassib a hug. And listen to him, and talk to him. Help Getting over the coming-out hurdle isn’t easy. It wasn’t easy for Nassib. There are so many fears of reactions from family, players, fans. No matter how many Dave Kopays and Carl Nassibs have come before them, the fear is real.
Gruden’s own words make it even harder.
Yet my hope is that every other LGBTQ person across football can see what we’ve seen at Outsports, that people are generally good. That they generally want the best for their teammates, or the athletes on their favorite team. That parents generally just want their kids to be happy and successful. And that there is a wonderful, diverse LGBTQ community to support all of it.
I hope they all take heart in how the NFL has reacted to Gruden’s once-private comments. Other than a couple “this was 10 years ago” comments on Twitter, I’ve seen no defense of what he said and his choice of words. Not from players, not from fans, not from coaches, not from anybody.
Yet none of that helps Nassib right now.
A community of one. I take some solace in knowing he has a boyfriend, someone who can hopefully listen to him and help him through this tough time.
I look for hope to some of his teammates, who have expressed pride in him. And I hope Mark Davis, the owner of the team, reaches out and offers two ears to listen. Davis’ family has staked its reputation on values of inclusion and diversity, and there are probably few people in the NFL more equipped to listen than the owner of Nassib’s team.
Coming out was one of the toughest things I’ve ever done. To come out publicly? As an NFL player? I can’t imagine the fear they have to overcome.
Yet it was also the best decision I’ve made in my life. We hear the same thing from out athletes everywhere. Nassib himself has talked about the absolute joy he’s experienced being his true self. And if you’ve been watching, he’s even been playing better.
As football players are coming out at high schools and colleges across America, I increasingly hope gay and bi NFL players do the same. They’re out there. I know they are.
And if they’re not ready to come out publicly, I so hope they’ll reach out to Nassib or the Raiders. Offer this young, courageous man a sense that he is not alone. Let him know there are others just like him playing around the league.
Even if he may feel alone right now, Nassib is not. And it’s our job to make sure he feels that sense of community.
https://www.outsports.com/2021/10/13/22724887/carl-nassib-jon-gruden-gay-emails-las-vegas-raiders
Carl Nassib takes personal day in wake of Jon Gruden anti-gay comments
Carl Nassib may feel more alone than he felt when he was in the closet. That is a tragedy.
By Cyd Zeigler@CydZeigler Oct 13, 2021, 1:05pm
It was less than four months ago that Nassib made a choice to come out as gay, the only current player in the NFL to do so. He did it on the very team Gruden coached. And he chose to do it during Pride month, our community’s celebration of who we are and our togetherness.
Yet I can only imagine how alone Nassib feels this week.
Today he requested time away from the team, less than two days after Gruden’s awful comments became public.
When Las Vegas Raiders general manager Mike Mayock said today that Nassib “is a community of one that is openly gay” in the NFL, he was not far off. There are great players who are out who came before him, but virtually none of them know what he’s feeling.
I can only imagine the onslaught of requests Nassib has received to talk about Gruden’s slurs. “The gay player for the anti-gay coach.” For the media, it writes itself.
Yet the last person I would try to reach out to right now is Nassib. The emotional toll of coming out and reading reports of your head coach calling the commissioner of the NFL a “faggot,” and Michael Sam a “queer,” has to be rough.
It’s something none of us know. We don’t understand it.
And Nassib has made it clear: He just wants to play football.
I wish I could give Nassib a hug. And listen to him, and talk to him. Help Getting over the coming-out hurdle isn’t easy. It wasn’t easy for Nassib. There are so many fears of reactions from family, players, fans. No matter how many Dave Kopays and Carl Nassibs have come before them, the fear is real.
Gruden’s own words make it even harder.
Yet my hope is that every other LGBTQ person across football can see what we’ve seen at Outsports, that people are generally good. That they generally want the best for their teammates, or the athletes on their favorite team. That parents generally just want their kids to be happy and successful. And that there is a wonderful, diverse LGBTQ community to support all of it.
I hope they all take heart in how the NFL has reacted to Gruden’s once-private comments. Other than a couple “this was 10 years ago” comments on Twitter, I’ve seen no defense of what he said and his choice of words. Not from players, not from fans, not from coaches, not from anybody.
Yet none of that helps Nassib right now.
A community of one. I take some solace in knowing he has a boyfriend, someone who can hopefully listen to him and help him through this tough time.
I look for hope to some of his teammates, who have expressed pride in him. And I hope Mark Davis, the owner of the team, reaches out and offers two ears to listen. Davis’ family has staked its reputation on values of inclusion and diversity, and there are probably few people in the NFL more equipped to listen than the owner of Nassib’s team.
Coming out was one of the toughest things I’ve ever done. To come out publicly? As an NFL player? I can’t imagine the fear they have to overcome.
Yet it was also the best decision I’ve made in my life. We hear the same thing from out athletes everywhere. Nassib himself has talked about the absolute joy he’s experienced being his true self. And if you’ve been watching, he’s even been playing better.
As football players are coming out at high schools and colleges across America, I increasingly hope gay and bi NFL players do the same. They’re out there. I know they are.
And if they’re not ready to come out publicly, I so hope they’ll reach out to Nassib or the Raiders. Offer this young, courageous man a sense that he is not alone. Let him know there are others just like him playing around the league.
Even if he may feel alone right now, Nassib is not. And it’s our job to make sure he feels that sense of community.
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