peterh6308
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I have to agree with your post. And Mikeyank in regards to bringing Jimmy back for the TV show that was filmed like 3 or more years ago. So to say he's still fresh in Mark's mind is quite the stretch, even for you lol
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I have to agree with your post. And Mikeyank in regards to bringing Jimmy back for the TV show that was filmed like 3 or more years ago. So to say he's still fresh in Mark's mind is quite the stretch, even for you lol
Wow Ertas. It's a good thing that I wasn't drinking a cup of coffee when I read that or I might have spit it up and ruined my keyboard. lol
I am particularly surprised as earlier today on the Jason and Danny scene thread you said:
Originally Posted by ertas23 View Post
After all, if these guys are supposed to be "straight" - they would just "get it over with and get paid" then get the hell away from one another. I don't appreciate that kind of show. Maybe I am not of the correct mindset for Broke Straight Boys and that is why I didn't like Jimmy J too much.
But I'd love to see some of the "older" models return, particularly "my Jimmy" and I guess it's not as far fetched as it initially appears as Mark does seem to have a fondness for Jimmy as he was the first model recruited and to appear thew "post David" BSB2, and he employed him to appear on the TV program DTLA and he brought Jimmy back with his "baby mama" to add drama to several episodes of his Broke Straight Boys-TV project, so I say why not?
I can almost guarantee that Peter and Tampa will be offering a dissenting point of view.lol
Mikey - That is exactly why I picked Jimmy - that many of the old fans would love to see him in such a role. And, as I said, older models who know the ropes of the site would be some of the best "test the new boys mettle" partners, I thought of him immediately. I think I could forego my dislike of those who roll off the futon and bolt away - after a good slap on the ass, maybe!!
OK - it was just a lame ass thought of mine. I acquiesce to the masters of the Broke Straight Boys Universe.
And just now in overtime I had to forego another fantasy. I wanted Cleveland to defeat the Boncos. Manning pulled it off. Damn!
Off topic. Ooooops.
stowe1
Ye Olde Curmudgeon
The last time we were promised a surprise we got the tv show!! (albeit almost 2 years later). God knows what this surprise will be!!!
mikeyank
Long time forumite
Good point Stowe!!!! lol
mikeyank
Long time forumite
I know you like to "give me the business" Peter, but Mark brought Jimmy back for BSB TV well after he had been off the site for quite some time, as he did for his other TV show, DTLA, so even when not currently working for Mark, he keeps in touch and knows that Jimmy attracts attention, and is good for shaking up the status quo. Love him or hate him, much like a villain in professional wrestling, Jimmy is a star.
johnny
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Maybe they will bring that guy David back to do some scenes. He was here before me but seems to have been the best.
Or maybe Paul and Jason? Love surprises. But so far most surprises haven't been all that. Just Saying.
There's Johnny with his subtleties!
Is that guy the one who did the original archived scenes who chided and coerced those boys into doing things they said they never wood (except Mr. "for $10,000 it will happen", Jimmy. He held out to the end...) I wonder if he could still get guys to go over the edge as he did or if the guys of today are just different.
johnny
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I really don't think the guy's have changed. I think the amount of money they can pay them has changed. And I love Sha but he is no David.
When talking with the boys. I love his scenes he just had a special way of talking with the boys.
Getting them out of there clothes and all.lol
I have got to agree that man was a master! I love watching the expressions on the faces of some of those early models when they are finding out "one of you is going to get fucked toda " and the shocked boys are "Not me" and "Not me" and the ole rock/paper/scissors gets to make the determination of one of those guy's fate.
There was laughter and fun in the prodding. So, if the guys haven't changed, is it the approach? I have been creeping back into the archives again (I stopped in favor of the forum for a few weeks but have resumed the BSB1 days) and it really was a different, unique approach that got those boys performing acts they said they'd never do.
And, eventually some of the boys like Tyler and some others of that era came out and said "Ok, I am bi or I am gay" and got that figured out. I don't believe a guy really could/would do some of these things if they were a 6 on the hetero Kinsey scale. I know I have friends going way back to high school who would slit their wrists in the public square before they'd let a guy kiss or suck their dick, say nothing of shoving their dick up a guys as or take one up theirs!
Somehow, though, in 2006 the camera guy got them to do that. And those scenes are the realistic ones that proved the Broke Straight Boys theory of cash for action.
peterh6308
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Look at it this way. Maybe the downfall of the TV show was Jimmy?? Maybe it was him and his asshole ways that turned everyone off?? I for sure enjoyed most of the show, except Jimmy, his girlfriend and his antics. Sorry to say, but not everyone likes the sighing, I'm just here for the money arrogant attitude. Not to hurt your feelings but Jimmy is a bigger star in your head then he actually is!!!!
mikeyank
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No lol's in your post here Peter, so you are being serious. I'm sorry that you just don't get it.
Of course I agree with most of your post Peter. Even in scenes I've seen glimpses of him from other sites, in some I see some of the same sighing and near boredom on Jimmy's part, as yet another guy sucks his dick and lets Jimmy fuck him. I would actually say though that the casting of Jimmy was more of a detriment to the DTLA series than the Broke Straight Boys tv show. He did stir things up and bring drama to the Broke Straight Boys tv show. It's possible that the show might have fared worse without him. Though we'll never know that for sure either way.
The DTLA show got little to no traction here in the forum or among the membership at all. In spite of their many attempts, the staff could not drum up excitement about Jimmy being on DTLA. The very place where interest in the show should have been highest. It got very little social media attention. There was very little mention of it from members here in the forum.
We were teased beforehand about a Broke Straight Boys model getting onto a major tv show and asked to guess who it would be. Well, that was pretty much a no-brainer since the site was in the era of the Jimmy Johnson Show. It was all Jimmy, all the time. Jimmy in 2-3 scenes a month. Jimmy in many of the BTS vids. Jimmy at the majority of all the Pride events. Gee. We wonder which model will be in the DTLA tv show? He was the textbook definition of overexposed. If just about any other popular model at the time had been chosen besides Jimmy, the interest in DTLA would have been far greater here at the site.
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mikeyank
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Mikeyank on Jimmy Johnson - Again
Jimmy is not my ideal guy on Broke Straight Boys, but he is pretty close. He is good looking and has an air of confidence that turns me on. He reminds me in personality of a good looking kid who worked for me from ages 19 through age 28 at my old job, named Danny, who like Jimmy was very sure of himself. He could be loud, and had a very competitive sense who would challenge new workers to a game of one on one basketball during lunch or other competitive sports to show them he was the man. But once he showed established his "alpha male" persona, he could also be your best friend and look out for you and defend you when need be. I saw Jimmy as that kind of guy.
I firmly believe that any guy who appears on a gay website like Broke Straight Boys for more than a solo and maybe to receive head once or twice is not straight, and I definitely consider Jimmy bi, but in his mind he was straight and that's part of what I liked about him. I always saw his tender side with his scene partners here, asking if he was hurting them or if they felt okay. There was always a wry smile on his face, and I can recall Colin among others telling us how much fun Jimmy was to work with. Jason is the only one who I recall saying that he didn't like him. A lot of his huffing and puffing was a put on to maintain his masculine persona. As I said recently, yes he was over-used on the site, appearing way too often. I would have enjoyed him much more if he appeared once a month or after two months, it would have been more special for me to see him then, but it was what it was.
As far as Broke Straight Boys-TV, it was a set up for television. To a viewer of the show who did not know the site, it looked like there was a permanent group of guys living in the house who filmed the porn, whereas the truth is there were guys flown in and out who stayed for a week at a time to shoot a bunch of scenes with each other, and then went home. And it appeared that Jimmy was a part of the house models when the show was shot, when in fact he was brought back well after his one year contract had expired, and he was working for other studios. Jimmy was brought in for controversy, which is a part of any reality show, and they even hired the mother of his boy to appear as well, when family members are never brought into the Broke Straight Boys house. They based his scenes on his real life, but it was a television show and it was all set up for the program.
Because of Jimmy's strong personality, he had many detractors, many of whom viciously attacked him through the anonymity of the internet, and I became one of his main defenders on the forum, but I fell more in love with him during his many behind the scenes at the pride events around the country, where the real Jimmy came out, as a kind and funny man who always was real sweet to the gay men who came up to him to hug him and pose for pictures and the like, and I found especially endearing his relationship with Rob Ryder from College Dudes who was usually on tour with him during his year here. Jimmy was much like the guy Danny who worked for me, a lot of "put on" machismo, but at heart a good guy.
Okay Peter and Tampa, rip into me and tell me how I am wrong, but that is truly, from my heart what think of Jimmy Johnson.
Jimmy is not my ideal guy on Broke Straight Boys, but he is pretty close. He is good looking and has an air of confidence that turns me on. He reminds me in personality of a good looking kid who worked for me from ages 19 through age 28 at my old job, named Danny, who like Jimmy was very sure of himself. He could be loud, and had a very competitive sense who would challenge new workers to a game of one on one basketball during lunch or other competitive sports to show them he was the man. But once he showed established his "alpha male" persona, he could also be your best friend and look out for you and defend you when need be. I saw Jimmy as that kind of guy.
I firmly believe that any guy who appears on a gay website like Broke Straight Boys for more than a solo and maybe to receive head once or twice is not straight, and I definitely consider Jimmy bi, but in his mind he was straight and that's part of what I liked about him. I always saw his tender side with his scene partners here, asking if he was hurting them or if they felt okay. There was always a wry smile on his face, and I can recall Colin among others telling us how much fun Jimmy was to work with. Jason is the only one who I recall saying that he didn't like him. A lot of his huffing and puffing was a put on to maintain his masculine persona. As I said recently, yes he was over-used on the site, appearing way too often. I would have enjoyed him much more if he appeared once a month or after two months, it would have been more special for me to see him then, but it was what it was.
As far as Broke Straight Boys-TV, it was a set up for television. To a viewer of the show who did not know the site, it looked like there was a permanent group of guys living in the house who filmed the porn, whereas the truth is there were guys flown in and out who stayed for a week at a time to shoot a bunch of scenes with each other, and then went home. And it appeared that Jimmy was a part of the house models when the show was shot, when in fact he was brought back well after his one year contract had expired, and he was working for other studios. Jimmy was brought in for controversy, which is a part of any reality show, and they even hired the mother of his boy to appear as well, when family members are never brought into the Broke Straight Boys house. They based his scenes on his real life, but it was a television show and it was all set up for the program.
Because of Jimmy's strong personality, he had many detractors, many of whom viciously attacked him through the anonymity of the internet, and I became one of his main defenders on the forum, but I fell more in love with him during his many behind the scenes at the pride events around the country, where the real Jimmy came out, as a kind and funny man who always was real sweet to the gay men who came up to him to hug him and pose for pictures and the like, and I found especially endearing his relationship with Rob Ryder from College Dudes who was usually on tour with him during his year here. Jimmy was much like the guy Danny who worked for me, a lot of "put on" machismo, but at heart a good guy.
Okay Peter and Tampa, rip into me and tell me how I am wrong, but that is truly, from my heart what think of Jimmy Johnson.
As regards Jimmy, you took your heart off your sleeve and put it out here on the forum. No one can attack for your sound assessment of what makes him attractive to you and you defend him well. Too bad he's not a participant on this forum to see that. It would make him proud.
I have to agree with you that he was a very different person at the BTS events. He even let Rob suck him off on stage in front of a very large live audience of gay guys! He was all business - for both corporate and himself. Not only the epitome of the Broke Straight Boys but an unknowingly savvy self-promoting business man!!
I really disliked his "pheww" sounds he made as he pounded but have come to accept it was part of his act. Still off-putting to me and is with new vids that leave the same impression. But, I certainly "get" that that is part of the appeal for you and I respect your long and well-established preferences for both model and realistic straight boy for money ideal.
mikeyank
Long time forumite
Thanks for your post Ertas. Two points. One is that Jimmy was an active participant on the forum when he was here, and it wasn't the typical superficial posts that models tend to give, like, "Thanks for your support", or the like, but he gave his opinions and spoke his mind. He knew that I liked him and I appreciated that.
My main question for you is when did Rob Ryder suck Jimmy off live on stage? I watched all the BTS and read every post by the two on the forum, and never heard anything about that. They used to make jokes about having sex together, and if you can find a post by Jimmy here, his last avatar, which will show up today, is him with a pic of Rob, saying "I love Rob Ryder". Many of us including me wanted a scene between the two, obviously Jimmy pounding away at Rob. I think that would have been hot, as there was obviously a connection, a "bromance" if you will, going on and they really seemed to like one another. But instead we got two lame scenes of Rob on Broke Straight Boys, but that is a different topic for a different day.
mikeyank
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To me the DTLA program was a failure because it was a boring show, and I think that Jimmy's small role on the show had nothing to do with it's lack of success. The show basically sucked, and they could have had any Broke Straight Boys model play that small part and it would have made no difference. Obviously, to me, Jimmy's couple of small appearances on the show were the highlight! (I said, to me).
johnny
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What is that old saying? As long as there talking.Well love him or not he sure keeps people talking.
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Jimmy Johnson's last scene was released on March 8, 2012. Here we are nearing the end of 2015, over 3 1/2 years after Jimmy's departure, with some of the next generation of forumites, and what topic seems to "wake up" the forum....Jimmy Johnson.
Some members see him as a villain, while others, a savior, but love him or hate him, that's star power, no matter which side you are on. If Jimmy's performance in the TV show brought that show to an abrupt end, then JR and his cronies should have doomed "Dallas" after its first season. The only person who can claim either success or failure of a TV show is the producer.
Some members see him as a villain, while others, a savior, but love him or hate him, that's star power, no matter which side you are on. If Jimmy's performance in the TV show brought that show to an abrupt end, then JR and his cronies should have doomed "Dallas" after its first season. The only person who can claim either success or failure of a TV show is the producer.
johnny
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Oh Jimmy had nothing to do with the shows failed outcome. It was a crummy show. And didn't answer any questions about why boys do Gay for Pay. Not a great Jimmy fan but not for him we wouldn't be
talking about it at all. It just was not a good show.
talking about it at all. It just was not a good show.
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