I need to talk about sex! Blake bennet

[rrhill]

Three girls one boy

I find myself very attracted to androgyny, in both men and women, as well as more gender normative folks.

One of my first memories is a boy in the candy store, asking me if I was a boy or a girl. Worse... carefully stepping downstairs at age 4 my own dear mother asked if I were a boy or a girl! Even at that age I thought that was a very stupid question. I was a boy...
At age 5 my mother got a note from school, kids were expected to show up dressed the next day. My mum had three kids to dress up. Due to a lack of time she decided to dress me up as a girl. Next she overheard some parents: "Ah... that poor girl has no costume".

At age fourteen leaving a clothing shop with mum, the sales person said: "Goodbye ladies". I turned around and answered him: "I'm not a lady. I'm a gent!" Boy, did I hate that.

It ended when facial hair started to grow, and my voice broke. I became a man; though not fanatic. These days I love androgynous faces. Girls with a boyish quality or boys, as handsome as a girl.

 

[Valentine]

When I read that you are writing a gay romantic novel Valentine, it brought memories of when I first discovered that the author of "The Front Runner" was a woman, Patricia Nell Warren. I found this description of the book on Amazon:

Book Description

Publication Date: June 1, 1996

First published in 1974, The Front Runner raced to international acclaim - the first novel about gay love to become popular with mainstream.
In 1975, coach Harlan Brown is hiding from his past at an obscure New York college, after he was fired from Penn State University on suspicion of being gay. A tough, lonely ex-Marine of 39, Harlan has never allowed himself to love another man.

Then Billy Sive, a brilliant young runner, shows up on his doorstep. He and his two comrades, Vince Matti and Jacques LaFont, were just thrown off a major team for admitting they are gay. Harlan knows that, with proper training, Billy could go to the '76 Olympics in Montreal. He agrees to coach the three boys under strict conditions that thwart Billy's growing attraction for his mature but compelling mentor. The lean, graceful frontrunner with gold-rim glasses sees directly into Harlan's heart. Billy's gentle and open acceptance of his sexuality makes Harlan afraid to confront either the pain of his past, or the challenges which lay in wait if their intimacy is exposed.

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What was even cooler was that Paul Newman had an option on starring as the coach in a motion picture version of the book, that was never made. Perhaps the world was not ready for Paul Newman playing a gay man in love with a younger man.

Of course Brokeback Mountain, which is also based on a story by a woman, Annie Proulx did become an Academy Award winning picture, so the idea of a woman writing gay fiction is not new, and has been successful in the past.

I too would love to read some of your writing, Valentine.

Thanks. I read The Front Runner when it came out. I was living in the Castro in San Francisco at the time. It was all any one was talking about. Brokeback Mountain. I went to see it at the theatre in my small town in Northern California when it came out. Packed with seniors, straight and gay. We took a senior gay friend of ours. He cried. So did the guy, alone, at the end of our eisle. Powerful. I watched it again, recently, on Netflix. I have been thinking about reading The Front Runner again sometime. Thanks for your support. I'll be writing some more today. I'll be finished in a month or so. Then I'll post something from it. I'm afraid if I reveal anything it will loose it's specialness for me and I'll loose my grip on it.

 

[Valentine]

One of my first memories is a boy in the candy store, asking me if I was a boy or a girl. Worse... carefully stepping downstairs at age 4 my own dear mother asked if I were a boy or a girl! Even at that age I thought that was a very stupid question. I was a boy...
At age 5 my mother got a note from school, kids were expected to show up dressed the next day. My mum had three kids to dress up. Due to a lack of time she decided to dress me up as a girl. Next she overheard some parents: "Ah... that poor girl has no costume".

At age fourteen leaving a clothing shop with mum, the sales person said: "Goodbye ladies". I turned around and answered him: "I'm not a lady. I'm a gent!" Boy, did I hate that.

It ended when facial hair started to grow, and my voice broke. I became a man; though not fanatic. These days I love androgynous faces. Girls with a boyish quality or boys, as handsome as a girl.

Amen. Thanks for posting these lovely people here. By the way, I think Rachel Maddow is very hot!

 

[Valentine]

Have any of you heard of the Gordon Merrick novels? One of his novels in particular was really hot. It was called The Lord Won't Mind. Oh my goodness. haha Good stuff. There's a particular seduction scene in it that all of us in college talked about whenever the subject of the book came up.

I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip.

 

[rrhill]

Amen. Thanks for posting these lovely people here. By the way, I think Rachel Maddow is very hot!

Can watch MSNBC via an Internet subscription. : -)
check out: http://www.facebook.com/therachelmaddowshow

Do you remember Amanda Lear?

 

[joninliverton]

Ermm have we lost the thread somewhere..

 

[Valentine]

Ermm have we lost the thread somewhere..

Only if we let it. Tell us something about our sexual attractions. What was the hottest sex you ever had?

 

[Valentine]

Can watch MSNBC via an Internet subscription. : -)
check out: http://www.facebook.com/therachelmaddowshow

Do you remember Amanda Lear?

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I don't remember her but I sure enjoyed this retrospective. According to net search, she may have started life as a biological male. I thought a lot of the pics of her were really sexy, especially the leather ones and the stockings and garter belt!

 

[rrhill]

Ermm have we lost the thread somewhere..

This thread is named: "let's talk about sex"

And androgynous people are hot! (at least to me and my Valentine)

 

[Beth]

Does your daughter know about your gay porn frolics, Beth? Does your husband ever watch with you? I can't talk mine into watching with me, he has rarely even looked at straight porn. But he doesn't mind that I watch or the benefits he reaps. Science is always saying that women don't get turned on by visual stimulation. If that is so, I guess we're freaks. But "freaks" of the urban dictionary type, wouldn't you say?

Oh yeah, everyone who knows me, knows I love porn; it's my favorite hobby. My daughter even warned me about 6 months ago when a guy I used to teach started doing gay porn...I would not feel comfortable watching him. As far as Steve goes, he's more into reading "Literotica." He does watch some of the scenes; since we both met Blake, he never misses his videos and we both get turned on by them. As far as women watching porn, especially gay porn, it is the fastest growing group doing so. As both my daughter and I explained to my husband, "more dicks and no viginas, a win-win!"

 

[Buckeye1]

This thread is named: "let's talk about sex"

And androgynous people are hot! (at least to me and my Valentine)

Robert, I'm glad you went back to your former avatar. And to keep my post on topic, you are very sexy.

 

[Valentine]

This thread is named: "let's talk about sex"

And androgynous people are hot! (at least to me and my Valentine)

Thanks. I love that song. I agree with what you said. This thread is about sex, what is hot to each of us might not be to the next. Not every thread will be for everyone either, I guess. I am really enjoying this one. I hope it goes for a while yet.

 

[Valentine]

Oh yeah, everyone who knows me, knows I love porn; it's my favorite hobby. My daughter even warned me about 6 months ago when a guy I used to teach started doing gay porn...I would not feel comfortable watching him. As far as Steve goes, he's more into reading "Literotica." He does watch some of the scenes; since we both met Blake, he never misses his videos and we both get turned on by them. As far as women watching porn, especially gay porn, it is the fastest growing group doing so. As both my daughter and I explained to my husband, "more dicks and no viginas, a win-win!"

I always wonder if any of the men who do porn have their mothers stumble onto it or watch it purposefully. Yikes! I have a hunch if someone I knew did porn that I WOULD watch it. After all, that's the chance they take when they do it and allow it on the internet forevermore. There was an article on line a few weeks ago about an Assistant District Attorney in New York who was a gay 70s porn star and was outed for it. He handled it very well. He was not ashamed. I think that is good. But I know what you mean about the guy having been a kid when you worked with him. I'd probably feel the same about anyone who I had counseled or been a case manager as a social worker for when they were a child and I wouldn't watch it.

Sadly, I expect, that some of the folks who do porn or other sex industry jobs were molested as children. I try real hard not to think about that.

 

[mikeyank]

I always wonder if any of the men who do porn have their mothers stumble onto it or watch it purposefully. Yikes! I have a hunch if someone I knew did porn that I WOULD watch it. After all, that's the chance they take when they do it and allow it on the internet forevermore. There was an article on line a few weeks ago about an Assistant District Attorney in New York who was a gay 70s porn star and was outed for it. He handled it very well. He was not ashamed. I think that is good. But I know what you mean about the guy having been a kid when you worked with him. I'd probably feel the same about anyone who I had counseled or been a case manager as a social worker for when they were a child and I wouldn't watch it.

Sadly, I expect, that some of the folks who do porn or other sex industry jobs were molested as children. I try real hard not to think about that.

I had heard the story about the upstate New York district attorney who was "outed" as a 70's porn actor back in November shortly after the election, however it was not gay porn, but straight porn, but never the less, it still reminded me that when a young man or woman makes a film like this, it will ALWAYS be out there, and one must be prepared that it can come back to "bite you in the ass" at any point in your future.

This was my post with a link to the you tube video that "outed" him.

http://members.brokestraightboys.co...strict-Attorney-Admits-He-Acted-In-Porn-Films

 

[RSand88]

Have any of you heard of the Gordon Merrick novels? One of his novels in particular was really hot. It was called The Lord Won't Mind. Oh my goodness. haha Good stuff. There's a particular seduction scene in it that all of us in college talked about whenever the subject of the book came up.

You just brought back some long-forgotten memories!

I also remember the first time I read GoreVidal's "The City and the Pillar"

 

[grace17]

I had heard the story about the upstate New York district attorney who was "outed" as a 70's porn actor back in November shortly after the election, however it was not gay porn, but straight porn, but never the less, it still reminded me that when a young man or woman makes a film like this, it will ALWAYS be out there, and one must be prepared that it can come back to "bite you in the ass" at any point in your future.

This was my post with a link to the you tube video that "outed" him.

http://members.brokestraightboys.co...strict-Attorney-Admits-He-Acted-In-Porn-Films

A while back I watched a show hosted by Tyra Banks (I actually think I got the link off the forum) and there were some straight guys doing the gay porn thing and an older guy who'd done a single porn movie (not sure if it was gay or straight) in the 70s or 80s. He'd been recently promoted to a high rank in one of the forces and his porn past came out and caused him all sorts of problems. The young guys insisted they were okay with what they were doing and he said at their age he had said exactly the same thing, but now 30 years down the track, he truly regretted making the movie...

So sad that we live in such a judgmental world, but realistically it is what it is and once it's out there in cyber space it's forever...

 

[Ambivalent]

Blake ~

This is a good topic: and one that was SURE to get everyone going! It has become quite labyrinthine, in fact: and that's no problem! But for the fact that I am running out of time, and have to shave and get to work, in something like TEN MINUTES ;-)

In answer to Blake's original question, though: medical science increasingly suggests that regular sex is good for us, for a whole lot of reasons! http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/10-surprising-health-benefits-of-sex (This is no doubt, why I am dying, so FAST ;-)

In answer to all those who have said that androgynous guys are beautiful - well, I'm not contesting that, as a matter of principle: but I guess my favorite "androgynous" model is Francisco Lachowski: and Francisco is only androgynous in his delicate features ~ not in his masculine form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNfChD4C7AI So. . . I guess that's as far as I go, on THAT scale ;-)

AND - neither BLAKE NOR JASON is androgynous, and they're my favorite models of all time, on here: so draw your own conclusions from THAT, I guess. (I am gay-PLUS, and that's a well-attested fact ;-) Some of my friends laugh at me for liking guys with pretty eyes, and handsome looks - and if you want to laugh at me, too, it is NP ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p-dBVBf5vI

But, for the record, my favorite male FASHION model is Evandro Soldati: who kind of sums up my erotic taste, in a nutshell ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkzeXBpb494

HOWEVER - my beloved BOYFRIEND, K. - whom it took me three decades to FIND (only) is a lot more beautiful - ecstatically beautiful - than even Evandro: so I am pretty happy being in the place I am, now ;-) But I'm not posting K's photo, on HERE - LOL! (I don't want my boyfriend to SUE me, you know???)

Now, I've gotta run to work. See y'all later.

"A" OXOXOXOXOXO

 

[Ambivalent]

P.S. Blake ~

Both you AND Jason, I have come to feel, are a lot more beautiful than Evandro Soldati. Not to mention - as you guys AREN'T - he is just another pretty face. Good gracious, the man is dumb as a weatherbeaten prairie post ;-)

Gotta run. . .

"A" ;-)

 

[Valentine]

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I'm gonna be out and about today. Here's a catchy/sexy tune and video to enjoy on the subject of "Bossy Bottoms". Do you know one. Are you one? Tops and bottoms and drag queens, OH MY!

 

[rrhill]

Robert, I'm glad you went back to your former avatar. And to keep my post on topic, you are very sexy.

If only you were straight Buckeye...