Does anyone else like to see this happen??

[vicekid]

Ahhh when I saw your post I had to double take on the name twice. If i recall correctly you were the one responsible for the eclispe glasses in Long Beach. If so thank you ... if not ... well my mistake.

Overall I would say David is a warm hearted person and very welcoming. Our interactions were always professional and pleasant and sometimes occasionally awkward. Please send him my best if you see him !

Jason, You are correct. I am the eclipse man. It was my pleasure and I hope you enjoyed the eclipse. Yes I will pass on your message to David.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

 

[joninliverton]

Welcome back Vicekid x Please send my best wishes to David and Eddie too.

 

[Ambivalent]

Did Anthony come back? I love him, too. . .

"A" XOXOXOXO

 

[BSB Jason]

I'm sure the conversations would have been priceless. I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall hearing straight guys discussing their questions and concerns about doing the job. I'm sure there were quite a few fascinating conversations!

Who were some of the people you went skinny dipping with? Those are the kinds of carefree memories of youth that you'll look back on later with a smile. As I sense you already do. Harmless fun of guys just being guys and enjoying their youthful freedom. Before full-time career oriented jobs. Before marriage and children. Before mortgages and all the ancilliary responsibilities of later adulthood.

Now if I can remember correctly, which over the time lapsed I may not lol, But I recall Danny Diesal and Tyler being the ones we went swimming with. Its possibile someone else could have been there. Also Eddie, Davids partner was there. I recall Lane was present but not involved he went on into the gym and got a little work out

 

[BSB Jason]

Boy oh Boy Jason, please enlighten me,

I used the term "masculine" signifying something that is assumed to be a "STRAIGHT" characteristic through and through! Of necessity of course, is your being fluid enough in your own view of sexuality to accommodate this stretch within your range of sexual behaviors.

Back to the topic at hand(NO PUN INTENDED - ALTHOUGH A LITTLE LEVITY ALONG THE WAY NEVER HURT ANYBODY!), throughout my personal experience of growing up, there was this constant struggle with what was assumed as "Masculine" and how was I to "Man-up"! Str8 guys would constantly utilize the "most feminized of extreme stereotypical behaviors" to set themselves apart as some lowly "fag", that they were secretly hoping to leave no doubt in anyone's mind about their own unshakeable sexual orientation. As being subjected to these highly animated but equally inaccutate protrayals of what "Gay Life" was supposed to really mean, the constant theme conveyed by these "overly Masculine guys" suggested all we really wanted at its essense was to become a member of the opposite sex with male genitalia chopped completely off and the addition of a "boob job". The thought of this unreversable remodeling simply felt horrendously painful, like I was just kicked in the balls. OUCH! OUUUUUUUUUUUUCH!

Back to the task at hand, all I wanted to know was if you felt after participating in "Gay-4-Pay" activities, did you feel any less of a man(in your own personal opinion) as a consequence of your professional encounters at Broke Straight Boys? I guess I took the long-way to spit out this otherwise simple question. Part II was afterwards, did this new reality about your self cause you to feel more vulnerable from other Str8s questioning your true sexual identity? OR, was this experience the source of new found self-confidence about who you were and this fact made you stronger for dealing with other's having their doubts about you?

Please excuse me, Jason, for getting so far adrift here. Thank you for being so very tolerant of my flightier moments!



Sincerely your eternal fan,



Stimpy

Well I believe for years the term acceptably masculine was a constantly evolving definition. Growing up people would often make fun of me (not in a serious fashion) for things here and there and they would refer to them as gay tendancies. For example, The jeans I would wear would often be tighter than most. Not real tight just straight leg jeans THAT FIT. However at that time in the 90's the preferred style was the baggier the better. Some so baggy they were ridiculous. Well, my parents were not going to have their child running around dressed like that and they bought clothes THAT FIT. All the same kids would make jokes at me once in a while.

In life I have never had effeminate behavoirs and really was never very experienced with it until long after high school (Keeping in mind I graduated to years early). Quickly after high school I joined the Marine Corps. That was no place to be anything but masculine. Upon entering the porn industry my definition of what is acceptably masculine has absolutly become much broader. For a long time doing this I was absolutly straight and today I know guys who are absolutly straight but do the same work. I would actually say what has happened is that sexual interactions have been removed from the equation in determining how masculine or straight you are espeially if you work in this industry. Being gay or bi implies that you have the desire to sleep or fall in love with the same sex. This is a job and in any profession youre going to get paid to do something you dont want to do. Thats why its called work and you get paid.

OOver all I would say there has never been any age when I truly manifested a definition of "acceptably masculine" as it has never really been a characteristic I would consider about myself or others. But in life I have always had the rare ability to block out what others think and make an unbiased uninfluenced decision, in any matter, because I and I alone feel that is the best course of action and that has certainly given me a great advangtage. I feel we should all make decisions that impact our lives without regard to societies popular opinion.

However, as a consequence it was at first slightly... dehumanizing. It will forever be something I can never hide from and will constantly continue to effect my relationships both personal and intimate. In the begining Im certain my friends who knew thought less of me. The true friends have stuck around and come to understand the others are better left behind. Today those that think less of me or see this as a shaddow on my character see me soley as a sex object and forget the person I am behind the job.

But I have come to appreciate the opportunity that is before me. Alot of people get into this business. Most of them have a very short stay. I am one of the few that has excelled and made a lasting impression. It had already been done, there was nothing I could do to change it. I had no choice but to take pride in my accomplishment, becuase I was good at this. And while this is an opportunity I should take full advantage of it because it is time sensative. Sinc then, I have found a more rewarding experience than I could ever dream.

This experience has most certainly been one of the biggest character building tools of my life. Without having it I would be a much less determined and confident person today.

I dont mind your flightier moments as I too have them. Please excuse my ramble here if any of it doesnt make sense. I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth out today and Im a bit medicated

 

[BSB Jason]

Dear Jason,

Thank you for being so plain spoken about so many topics. I have really enjoyed the dialogue we have established. I can really see that those conditions at David's House would not be such that you or most other models would be tempted to sample any of the wares from other models. But, as you alluded to earlier, guys like Dustin that have their ego problems thinking they are God's Gift to Everybody(sexually speaking) come with the territory, it seems. Anyone can become a jerk if they try hard enough.

I guess you must have writer's cramp by this time, with all the answers to questions you may or may not have to our litany of unending questions. I want to thank you, Jason, for all you have shared as it only serves to make us forumites feel a greater closeness and bond with you. Jason, you are a class act if there ever was one!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!



Respectfully, thankful for your candid responses and wishing you a ,



Stimpy

As always, It's my pleasure and never an inconvenience!

 

[BSB Jason]

Jason, You are correct. I am the eclipse man. It was my pleasure and I hope you enjoyed the eclipse. Yes I will pass on your message to David.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

Ahh ... I thought so ! That was the first eclispe I had ever seen. It was alot of fun! Thank you both for the glasses and passing the message along.

 

[Ambivalent]

Dear Jason -

Oh gosh! Getting all of your wisdom teeth out IS a big deal ~ I can hardly believe you are writing to everyone here, as if nothing had ever happened! (I hope you are icing your cheeks; that helps!; taking your Ibuprofen; and getting some REST!)

As far as masculinity - you have always seemed to me to be the consummate version, thereof. Albeit that (in my experience, anyway) our European friends have a MUCH broader and more generous sense of what masculinity ENTAILS. In France, for example, having a taste for good food and wine; liking to dress fashionably; or loving Picasso or the symphonic works of Debussy - signally does NOT disqualify one from being "masculine", at ALL. Whereas, in North America, it might ~ it is all a question of cultural horizons.

And, while you regard yourself as being "pansexual", I don't think that has anything to do with being "masculine", or not. In fact, I think you are SUPERBLY masculine, because you are always clear in your purpose (whatever you are doing); and always clearly IN CHARGE of whatever you are doing (and however you are giving, or receiving, pleasure): and I think it takes a REAL MAN to do that, as easily and graciously as you do. (Not to mention, you survived the USMC, and that is a whole NOVELLA of masculinity, all unto itself!)

As regards this industry - yes, you are one of the "survivors" and the "thrivers", a very rare breed in the business. I am glad you take pride in what you have accomplished, because you have done FANTASTIC work, and given a lot of lonely people, out there in the dark, a lot of genuine joy and happiness. And you couldn't have done that without a very masculine sense of purpose, and strength of character.

Anyway, I hope you will just rest and TAKE CARE of yourself today, and for the next few days! But thanks always, for all you do.

Love,
"Ambivalent" XOXOXOXOXOXO

P.S. As your dentist likely told you, don't smoke, either, for a couple of days, until your gums have started to heal - and even then, approach it GINGERLY, and don't suck too hard: you don't want to dislodge those clots!

 

[tampa24]

Welcome back Vicekid x Please send my best wishes to David and Eddie too.

Please pass on my best wishes to David and Eddie also Vicekid.

 

[mikeyank]

For a long time doing this I was absolutly straight and today I know guys who are absolutly straight but do the same work. I would actually say what has happened is that sexual interactions have been removed from the equation in determining how masculine or straight you are espeially if you work in this industry. Being gay or bi implies that you have the desire to sleep or fall in love with the same sex. This is a job and in any profession youre going to get paid to do something you dont want to do. Thats why its called work and you get paid.

I completely agree with you Jason that a person's perceived masculinity does not necessarily represent their actual sexuality, however I disagree that a completely heterosexual male could be a performer in the gay for pay industry. I totally believe in Alfred Kinsey's "Kinsey Scale", of rating all human beings on a 1-6 scale, from exclusively heterosexual or homosexual to the degrees in between.

Rating Description
0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual
X Non-sexual

While I do believe it is possible for a "0" Exclusively heterosexual model to perform in a scene where he only receives head or masturbates with another model, the model's who flourish in the industry need to be at least a 1, 2 or 3.

I discussed my theory with Sha at the NYC Pride event and he agreed with me, that even the "uber straight" Jimmy Johnson could not be completely heterosexual and appear in as many gay sex scenes as he has performed in.

I use myself as an example, as I am a "6", and I know that no matter how much money I was offered I could not perform in a "straight for pay" sex scene with a woman. It's not in my DNA, and conversely there have to true "0"s who could not perform on Broke Straight Boys

 

[mikeyank]

Please pass on my best wishes to David and Eddie also Vicekid.

Likewise from myself Vicekid.