Do models escort or work in strip clubs?

[jwglass]

hehe! im sitting here giggling. you guys are too funny

 

[slimvintage]

Slim,

I'm curious, are you trying to annoy Carking1? I mean are you just posting to bug the hell out of him or what?

No, not at all. He's calling me names and going to certain lengths to vilify the wrong people in this privacy scandal. I think our friends who've been unfairly made to feel like criminals and more or less pushed out of the forum and maybe, for all I know, the site, are being treated badly by other friends of mine in here who turn out to be goody goody, finger pointy and paranoid when faced with the complexity of this debacle. Admittedly they've been confused by a really incoherent and jumbled bunch of accusations and complaints from management. If you parse it all out, you can see that management does have a genuine case against the non-forum members who trespassed and stalked down in Florida, but in the heat of hurt feelings and fear mixed all their accusations together. Our guys, who did social networking, and got mixed in with the baddies, aren't here anymore to defend themselves. I've tried reason and it didn't work. He tried sarcasm and I didn't get it. I admit I couldn't resist making fun of him for his last post which I was instructed not to answer since I'm on his Ignore List. But if you don't like it, I'll stop.

 

[Troika]

Will you. Okay that would be great. Thank you.

In all honestly you have your pov and he has his, and management has theirs, and your friends who you feel have been unfarily made to feel like criminals have theirs and so on and so on and so on. You don't seem to have a problem expressing your opinion but anytime someone else does you keep coming back and posting, each post more sarcastic than the one before. What's the pay off for you? You have to be getting something from it or you wouldn't do it? Which brings me back to my original question, "Are you trying to annoy Carking1? I mean are you just posting to bug the hell out of him or what?"

There really has to come a point where people have to agree to disagree without picking at one another, or making fun or calling names. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

 

[slimvintage]

Will you. Okay that would be great. Thank you.

In all honestly you have your pov and he has his, and management has theirs, and your friends who you feel have been unfarily made to feel like criminals have theirs and so on and so on and so on. You don't seem to have a problem expressing your opinion but anytime someone else does you keep coming back and posting, each post more sarcastic than the one before. What's the pay off for you? You have to be getting something from it or you wouldn't do it? Which brings me back to my original question, "Are you trying to annoy Carking1? I mean are you just posting to bug the hell out of him or what?"

There really has to come a point where people have to agree to disagree without picking at one another, or making fun or calling names. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

Thanks for your point of view and so on and so on and so on. I happen to think that insistent accusations leveled at innocent people are too important to ignore, or make nice about, even at the risk of annoying you and carking1. But I'm fine to drop it.

You asked and I answered, as agreeably as I could, so please, if you don't mind, don't tell me this time that I keep coming back and posting. Or do tell me haha I actually don't mind.

Peace

 

[Troika]

I love how you had to get your point across one more time before you said, but I'm fine to drop it. And by love, I mean I really do love it. I think it's hilarious. Its like talking with myself. I love to get the last word in, even when I'm saying I'm going to let it go.

 

[carking1]

I love how you had to get your point across one more time before you said, but I'm fine to drop it. And by love, I mean I really do love it. I think it's hilarious. Its like talking with myself. I love to get the last word in, even when I'm saying I'm going to let it go.

Now, that's funny. It reminds me of a friend who said,"I molested myself last night. I told myself no, but I knew I wanted it."

 

[elyot1]

???????????

How does that work, the ignore list? I thought you could only do that up to the age of 11.

The level of discourse has reached a new level.

 

[elyot1]

What about the victims?

Your direct point is the shakiest of all. Don't forget what David said when he bludgeoned the forum with his complaints. He said he was insulted and hurt by the digging into his real identity and the public data about his business. He didn't say he was gonna sue tucsonjayce or Denny or tampa or report them to the authorities; in essence he said he felt really really bad he'd been outed.

He also mixed up this really benign little gossip group, who riled him and his friends on these social networking sites, with other fairly rad people who went to visit him in Florida with some crazy, urgent, fanatical fan stuff in mind. I doubt if all the pious forum finger wagging about how outrageous and dangerous all this is will ever be read by the people who had to have the police called on them because they were trampling the petunias under Dave's office window, trying to get in to meet a brokie. That's stalking.

The other is time killing. Like knitting, or whatever you do if you've got a few minutes to just chill and don't happen to have a hard on.

You obviously have never been the victim of a stalker. I have. Its scary and it causes paranoia. Takes a long time to come to terms with it. David, nor the others are immune to this. If one really is a keen observer of the human race one might take feelings into account.

 

[jwglass]

You obviously have never been the victim of a stalker. I have. Its scary and it causes paranoia. Takes a long time to come to terms with it. David, nor the others are immune to this. If one really is a keen observer of the human race one might take feelings into account.

oh snap!

 

[slimvintage]

Originally Posted by slimvintage

He also mixed up this really benign little gossip group...with other fairly rad people who went to visit him in Florida with some crazy, urgent, fanatical fan stuff in mind...I doubt...this is will ever be read by the people who had to have the police called on them because they were trampling the petunias under Dave's office window, trying to get in to meet a brokie. That's stalking.

Oh snap too. I've been stalked. A guy used to wait under the window of my flat every morning and try to walk me to my job. He'd then be back at 5 to try to walk me back home. He'd phone me and hang up. He wrote notes that were long, intelligent, amusing and psychotic. He was handsome, fit, and talented just like elyot1, and the same age. He told me how he could make me happy. I'm too stupid to be frightened, but it was definitely weird.

There HAS been some bad stalking and trespassing going on lately in the lives of people connected with the site. Every time I've opened my mouth on the subject I've said it was reprehensible, and commiserated with the victims.

 

[LoganBroad]

Since I am the one who started the thread I think I should comment now that everybody else has. I never dreamed such a benign question would start a firestorm, a tempest in a teapot. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill!

1. Go back to the original entry that started this thread. It was a simple question and it was a general question and not about any particular model.
2. Most of what has been discussed on this thread reeks of paranoia, control freak mindsets, and some silly nonsense.
3. This is a gay porn site. Get real people. Guys who go on camera and suck dick and fuck other guys are not exactly in the closet when they get paid knowing these films are put up on a web site for anybody to see. And half these guys you can find on other gay pay sites sucking dick and fucking. The Supreme Court, in Sullivan vs. NY Times, said that we forfeit the right to privacy when we put ourselves out in the public arena for all the world to see and do so intentionally, such as politicians and actors, and people who appear in the media (which nowadays includes the internet).
4. I am new here and a few things people brought up were over my head. What is all this stuff about "banning" and "moderators." Is this an adult forum or not? I don't think any of us are here for etiquette lessons on how to behave in Sunday School. This is not a finishing school for genteel young ladies. It is a fucking porn site that caters to gay men whose average age is probably about 40+. We don't need a nanny to scold us or look over our shoulder.
5. Again, I am new. Does "moderator" = censor?
6. This is not a "business" forum as one person asserted. It is a discussion forum. We pay a fee every month for that perk. Business = accounting, finance, economics, and NOT porn discussions. If we wanted to talk about business we would take a graduate level seminar at a university, which I have done.
7. I am truly shocked at the obvious lack of education, lack of logical reasoning, and small mindedness of some members. Note that I did not name anyone, thus I cannot be accused of "personal attacks."

Slim and those who concur with him have it about right.