Do models escort or work in strip clubs?

[slimvintage]

slim baby, i get it. you still didn't, though. i do find some things that some people say on here inappropriate and out of this world, somewhat creepy. the people who blur the lines of their fantasy and the premise of this site and say things about how much they love and care for a person they've never even met, yet alone a fantasy persona. i'm sorry, but i don't get that! people on this site tend to say 'oh my god, i love model-a!' and than 2 minutes later are fed up with the same model for doing the same thing that they had said they loved them for. some members have this sense of entitlement that i don't understand. you are a paying customer. you pay for your pleasure, but that doesn't give you the right to demand to know the owner/operator's decisions regarding any of their proceedings. btw, i mean you in a general sense, as in you the member, you no specifically slim. don't take that you the wrong way.

both of my remarks were meant in a funny sarcastic tone, but what i wrote above is my true, actual feelings. enjoy the porn, members have no ride in demanding anything of management other than to uphold the promise that they advertise - updates and hard dicks.

OK, I see your you still still don't get it and raise you two the forum is here for a reason.

The forum is here mostly as a market research tool for the site. It also serves as a draw to prospective membership, so it's merchandising as well. If you don't rave about the models, or decry them albeit nicely (Moderators are at large don't forget), if you don't ask why certain decisions were made regarding how stuff goes down, models, scenes, lots of stuff like that: you're just dross on the forum. You serve the purpose of financing to a minute degree the continuance of the site on the internet, but that's all. As a member of the forum you might just as well not exist. This is all about feedback to management. It's grown into a meeting place for likeminded friends, but that wasn't the original intention. And it certainly would be boring as shit if everyone followed your guidelines.

On the other hand you are a logical, if fallacious, thinker and you write really well. You don't like strong opinions in others but you have definite ones of your own. I say you should stay, despite the raw edges. So many people, early on in the forum, toed the "just watch the porn, shut up and jerk off" line. David was the first to say it. You can see how he's evolved in the course of the two years he's been posting. I wish you a similar apocalypse.

Nice to meet you man.

 

[zyl84]

OK, I see your you still still don't get it and raise you two the forum is here for a reason.

The forum is here mostly as a market research tool for the site. It also serves as a draw to prospective membership, so it's merchandising as well. If you don't rave about the models, or decry them albeit nicely (Moderators are at large don't forget), if you don't ask why certain decisions were made regarding how stuff goes down, models, scenes, lots of stuff like that: you're just dross on the forum. You serve the purpose of financing to a minute degree the continuance of the site on the internet, but that's all. As a member of the forum you might just as well not exist. This is all about feedback to management. It's grown into a meeting place for likeminded friends, but that wasn't the original intention. And it certainly would be boring as shit if everyone followed your guidelines.

On the other hand you are a logical, if fallacious, thinker and you write really well. You don't like strong opinions in others but you have definite ones of your own. I say you should stay, despite the raw edges. So many people, early on in the forum, toed the "just watch the porn, shut up and jerk off" line. David was the first to say it. You can see how he's evolved in the course of the two years he's been posting. I wish you a similar apocalypse.

Nice to meet you man.

thanks slim, i do enjoy others strong opinions. i also have a very strong opinion myself, which i am proud to say that i do share whether or not someone wants to hear it. i understand the premise of the forums. it's a QA research tool. the evolution that the tool has undertaken has become quite dangerous. by seeking out the information that certain people did constitutes stalking. no matter how you slice it, malicious or benign, it is stalking.

the cover up is worse than the crime in this case. in my eyes, the members who are out upset by a member-moderator are the ones who have the most to hide. the fear they will be discovered if she can see the PM's sent and she may have heard whisperings of this "underground" group. this frightens these members due to the degree of their "crimes". they have now fled and will probably continue doing what they have been doing. that's my problem here.

it has dawned on me that we are most likely discussing different issues, so i'll put my point directly out there: the stalking by the "secret group" is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. we have no right to be privy to what management does and chooses to do with their business. they can ask for feedback, if they so choose.

 

[slimvintage]

thanks slim, i do enjoy others strong opinions. i also have a very strong opinion myself, which i am proud to say that i do share whether or not someone wants to hear it. i understand the premise of the forums. it's a QA research tool. the evolution that the tool has undertaken has become quite dangerous. by seeking out the information that certain people did constitutes stalking. no matter how you slice it, malicious or benign, it is stalking.

the cover up is worse than the crime in this case. in my eyes, the members who are out upset by a member-moderator are the ones who have the most to hide. the fear they will be discovered if she can see the PM's sent and she may have heard whisperings of this "underground" group. this frightens these members due to the degree of their "crimes". they have now fled and will probably continue doing what they have been doing. that's my problem here.

it has dawned on me that we are most likely discussing different issues, so i'll put my point directly out there: the stalking by the "secret group" is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. we have no right to be privy to what management does and chooses to do with their business. they can ask for feedback, if they so choose.

Your direct point is the shakiest of all. Don't forget what David said when he bludgeoned the forum with his complaints. He said he was insulted and hurt by the digging into his real identity and the public data about his business. He didn't say he was gonna sue tucsonjayce or Denny or tampa or report them to the authorities; in essence he said he felt really really bad he'd been outed.

He also mixed up this really benign little gossip group, who riled him and his friends on these social networking sites, with other fairly rad people who went to visit him in Florida with some crazy, urgent, fanatical fan stuff in mind. I doubt if all the pious forum finger wagging about how outrageous and dangerous all this is will ever be read by the people who had to have the police called on them because they were trampling the petunias under Dave's office window, trying to get in to meet a brokie. That's stalking.

The other is time killing. Like knitting, or whatever you do if you've got a few minutes to just chill and don't happen to have a hard on.

 

[rapper]

Slim . . .

Thanks for the succint remarks. I guess we're in the "Autopsy" phase of the recent timult, huh? I thought you quite sharp in mentioning the matter that the Forums are merchandising tools. I give you five points right off the top for that one. Let me mention in passing that there were actually two topics that got mashed together. One was the issue of our new communications director being recently appointed and the other was the trauma of the counter-spies. I think I won't get into these matters since it is a holiday today and we've had enough fireworks for a while. However keep your keyboard sharpened and perhaps we'll have some more fun at a later date.

 

[mikeyank]

Your direct point is the shakiest of all. Don't forget what David said when he bludgeoned the forum with his complaints. He said he was insulted and hurt by the digging into his real identity and the public data about his business. He didn't say he was gonna sue tucsonjayce or Denny or tampa or report them to the authorities; in essence he said he felt really really bad he'd been ousted.

He also mixed up this really benign little gossip group, who riled him and his friends on these social networking sites, with other fairly rad people who went to visit him in Florida with some crazy, urgent, fanatical fan stuff in mind. I doubt if all the pious forum finger wagging about how outrageous and dangerous all this is will ever be read by the people who had to have the police called on them because they were trampling the petunias under Dave's office window, trying to get in to meet a brokie. That's stalking.

The other is time killing. Like knitting, or whatever you do if you've got a few minutes to just chill and don't happen to have a hard on.

Slim just hit the nail on the head. A whole bunch of shit went down simultaneously, site members allegedly broke into David's office, while other's or the same one's, hacked into his personal accounts to get confidential personal information, contacting members of David's family and from his past, as well as stalking models.

David also got word that there was a gossip group of friends from the forum, like a knitting group for yenta's, dishing gossip about the site. At the same time there was the hue and cry over the non-announced appointment of one of the groups newer members, who happens to be a female, to the newly created position of "monitor". All hell broke loose as supporters and defenders of all sides, of all of these issues started fighting.

Then in a shorter period than the six day war, the casualties include long time members, and extremely important contributors to the forum like TusconJayce, Denny Bear, Tampa24 and a newer member, but vocal and opinionated one in JoninLiverton. I'm sure I missed others. But it has been a very ugly time in this forum. It didn't seem that long ago that we were a close knit group of folks, with a love for pretty young supposedly straight boys having gay sex. We used to agree and disagree about the models, and the scenes, as well as political and social issues, and could joke and have fun too, and at the end of the day we were all still family. I don't feel that way at this point in time.

 

[zyl84]

Your direct point is the shakiest of all. Don't forget what David said when he bludgeoned the forum with his complaints. He said he was insulted and hurt by the digging into his real identity and the public data about his business. He didn't say he was gonna sue tucsonjayce or Denny or tampa or report them to the authorities; in essence he said he felt really really bad he'd been outed.

He also mixed up this really benign little gossip group, who riled him and his friends on these social networking sites, with other fairly rad people who went to visit him in Florida with some crazy, urgent, fanatical fan stuff in mind. I doubt if all the pious forum finger wagging about how outrageous and dangerous all this is will ever be read by the people who had to have the police called on them because they were trampling the petunias under Dave's office window, trying to get in to meet a brokie. That's stalking.

The other is time killing. Like knitting, or whatever you do if you've got a few minutes to just chill and don't happen to have a hard on.

knitting leads to knocking on a door and restraining orders put in place... knowledge is power. what people choose to do with that knowledge is the fundamental difference. that is what you're arguing. i get it. it doesn't change the fact that it was fucking creepy and wrong. you must have been a member of the secret society... creepy ass.

 

[zyl84]

Slim just hit the nail on the head. A whole bunch of shit went down simultaneously, site members allegedly broke into David's office, while other's or the same one's, hacked into his personal accounts to get confidential personal information, contacting members of David's family and from his past, as well as stalking models.

David also got word that there was a gossip group of friends from the forum, like a knitting group for yenta's, dishing gossip about the site. At the same time there was the hue and cry over the non-announced appointment of one of the groups newer members, who happens to be a female, to the newly created position of "monitor". All hell broke loose as supporters and defenders of all sides, of all of these issues started fighting.

Then in a shorter period than the six day war, the casualties include long time members, and extremely important contributors to the forum like TusconJayce, Denny Bear, Tampa24 and a newer member, but vocal and opinionated one in JoninLiverton. I'm sure I missed others. But it has been a very ugly time in this forum. It didn't seem that long ago that we were a close knit group of folks, with a love for pretty young supposedly straight boys having gay sex. We used to agree and disagree about the models, and the scenes, as well as political and social issues, and could joke and have fun too, and at the end of the day we were all still family. I don't feel that way at this point in time.

i couldn't disagree with you more. a knitting group? haha. no one person is more important than the next. they were important and contributors because they wanted to pay off a few brokies for a quickie.

 

[rapper]

Zyl?

Hummmmm . . . looks like you will be the next super-honest guy to spice things up. Well go for it; We're tough.

 

[zyl84]

Hummmmm . . . looks like you will be the next super-honest guy to spice things up. Well go for it; We're tough.

haha, well sure...

 

[slimvintage]

knitting leads to knocking on a door and restraining orders put in place... knowledge is power. what people choose to do with that knowledge is the fundamental difference. that is what you're arguing. i get it. it doesn't change the fact that it was fucking creepy and wrong. you must have been a member of the secret society... creepy ass.

Creepy ass? Prissy prick you, now STOP it.



Dude, I was saying before that you still don't get it, but that's not true, you'll never get it. You're still confusing several bunches of people with each other. It's like saying Tea Party adherents should be shot for promulgating pro-universal healthcare propaganda. Blame David for muddling you since he lumped all of them in together, but don't blame who you're blaming.

You've got a way with words. Have a go at a segment of the "You Tell the Story" thread. If you haven't checked it out it's like killing time knitting a doily, but vaguely funny and satirical, with lots of references to the way people speak and act, all to do with Broke Straight Boys

 

[slimvintage]

i couldn't disagree with you more. a knitting group? haha. no one person is more important than the next. they were important and contributors because they wanted to pay off a few brokies for a quickie.

zyl bro, you'll just say ANYTHING that comes tapping out of your fingies on the ole keyboard dude, without any reference at all to the facts: David has already said HE's the one who was having the quickies with the brokies, even though the payment was for performances on the set, and not for a bit of fun in the back office. He's not proud of himself for that apparently, but I think it was totally ok to do it (especially, as he says, if the brokies were heads over heels at the time and craved Dave's flesh, lucky boy). You've already read what he said, I don't have to tell you.

Creepy-ass! Man I just love that. Creepy-ass! You silly-poop!

 

[carking1]

Well, I think now that the contest is over, it is time for me to put my two cents' worth in here on the issues. I'm sure that I will be castigated for it, but I have bit my tongue long enough.

I will try to address the issues separately, so as not to confuse them. The members who had and traded personal information about Broke Straight Boys staff and models stepped way, way over the line from fantasy and reality and were wrong, perhaps even criminal. The fact that they have voluntarily "left" the forum/site is absolutely of no comfort to me. They, in fact have not left. They are lurking, reading every word, poised to attack again. None of us will be safe until they are banned and/or prosecuted. I have shared this in a PM with another member, and I will state it publicly. If you cannot post something on here or send it in a PM, perhaps you shouldn't share it at all. We need to put ourselves in the shoes of the people who were wronged. How would you feel?

As for the appointment of the moderator for the forum, those who had their temper tantrum were so off-base it would have been laughable if it were not so pathetic. The management of Broke Straight Boys owns this site, we do not. As I have said, and zyl84 has said, we are not stockholders. If management wants to appoint Bob the Builder or Pebbles Flintstone moderator, it is their freaking perrogative. We DO NOT have the say as members as to how this site (or any other) is run. The only thing we can do is to make a decision as to whether we want to partake of it and spend our money. If you are not happy, then take your money and spend it somewhere else. That is your right. But, for God's sake, quit bitching and whining about who the moderator is.

As with most other things in life, a few senseless people have fucked things up for the majority. We now don't know who to trust, but this has helped me pare down my friends list and beef up my ignore list. We have "lost" four members that I can name, but I think there are a few more out there who have flown under the radar and are still dangerous.

My advice to all is to be very careful who you confide in. Some people here who you think are your friends are still very much in the middle of the pot, stirring to beat the band.

 

[slimvintage]

I will try to address the issues separately, so as not to confuse them. The members who had and traded personal information about Broke Straight Boys staff and models stepped way, way over the line from fantasy and reality and were wrong, perhaps even criminal. The fact that they have voluntarily "left" the forum/site is absolutely of no comfort to me. They, in fact have not left. They are lurking, reading every word, poised to attack again. None of us will be safe until they are banned and/or prosecuted. I have shared this in a PM with another member, and I will state it publicly. If you cannot post something on here or send it in a PM, perhaps you shouldn't share it at all. We need to put ourselves in the shoes of the people who were wronged. How would you feel?

.................................................................

My advice to all is to be very careful who you confide in. Some people here who you think are your friends are still very much in the middle of the pot, stirring to beat the band.

I'll be damned. You're a nice guy carking, but you certainly can get yourself all huffy and pious after the fact, now that the forum is trying to move on. The people you should be scolding are the ones who tried to break into D&E, not the guys on the forum who were so caught up in their fave website that they had a fan club to exchange messages about the people who provided the fun.

And then to try to sow paranoia among all the rest of us, who are still standing now the show trials are over, is just unpardonable. I'd like to hear from the members who honestly think this quirky, corny, little fetish-website message board is a hotbed of identity thieves and psychopaths. Well, no, I wouldn't like to hear from them. I'd be afraid there might actually be more than one. Be real dude, find something better to cluck about. Jesus.

 

[carking1]

I'll be damned. You're a nice guy carking, but you certainly can get yourself all huffy and pious after the fact, now that the forum is trying to move on. The people you should be scolding are the ones who tried to break into D&E, not the guys on the forum who were so caught up in their fave website that they had a fan club to exchange messages about the people who provided the fun.

And then to try to sow paranoia among all the rest of us, who are still standing now the show trials are over, is just unpardonable. I'd like to hear from the members who honestly think this quirky, corny, little fetish-website message board is a hotbed of identity thieves and psychopaths. Well, no, I wouldn't like to hear from them. I'd be afraid there might actually be more than one. Be real dude, find something better to cluck about. Jesus.

Slim, since this whole thing started, I have made 6 posts on the subject. You have made 19. I have been outclucked. Talk about pious!

To the rest of the forumites, the new frustrated, self-appointed, unofficial moderator has just declared this issue over and done. No further posts will be permitted "after the fact, now that the forum is trying to move on." "The show trials are over", so any future posts on the subject are unpardonable, unless, of course, you agree with slimvintage. You have been warned.

 

[zyl84]

after all is done and said, i see what slim is saying. i hope he sees what i'm saying as well. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY DICK???

 

[slimvintage]

after all is done and said, i see what slim is saying. i hope he sees what i'm saying as well. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY DICK???

Me. Me. Definitely me. I know how to do that.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim, since this whole thing started, I have made 6 posts on the subject. You have made 19. I have been outclucked. Talk about pious!

To the rest of the forumites, the new frustrated, self-appointed, unofficial moderator has just declared this issue over and done. No further posts will be permitted "after the fact, now that the forum is trying to move on." "The show trials are over", so any future posts on the subject are unpardonable, unless, of course, you agree with slimvintage. You have been warned.

You are a dear self appointed unofficial moderator. mikeyank, for once, will agree that one member is allowed to shut all the other members up. I beat you 19 to 6. That is so funny: to have the statistics. Have you been counting lately, assembling scores? Yes? I thought so. Do I get into the top 5 in the Piety Category?

People who like to write (not the ones who "have a life") please contribute a paragraph to Kianna's "Story" on the General Chat.

 

[carking1]

You are a dear self appointed unofficial moderator. mikeyank, for once, will agree that one member is allowed to shut all the other members up. I beat you 19 to 6. That is so funny: to have the statistics. Have you been counting lately, assembling scores? Yes? I thought so. Do I get into the top 5 in the Piety Category?

People who like to write (not the ones who "have a life") please contribute a paragraph to Kianna's "Story" on the General Chat.

Zylk84 is right. You don't get it. Sarcasm is way over your head. I was referring to you as the moderator. Since slimvintage says it's over, it's over. You are a cyber bully and I refuse to be bullied. And that pisses you off.

Obviously, you are the one who likes to write, judging by your over 2,000 posts, but I have a suggestion. Why don't you write "you tell the story", since fiction seems to be your strong suit?

Don't bother to respond. Like Aquarius, your twim separated at birth, you are on my ignore list.

 

[slimvintage]

Zylk84 is right. You don't get it. Sarcasm is way over your head. I was referring to you as the moderator. Since slimvintage says it's over, it's over. You are a cyber bully and I refuse to be bullied. And that pisses you off.

Obviously, you are the one who likes to write, judging by your over 2,000 posts, but I have a suggestion. Why don't you write "you tell the story", since fiction seems to be your strong suit?

Don't bother to respond. Like Aquarius, your twim separated at birth, you are on my ignore list.

How does that work, the ignore list? I thought you could only do that up to the age of 11.

 

[Troika]

Slim,

I'm curious, are you trying to annoy Carking1? I mean are you just posting to bug the hell out of him or what?