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[MissDeidra]

I agree with you Jon....I wasn't sure what LTF's motives were but I read some of his older posts and realized he's just a tad bit clumsy with his words....

 

[BiGurl0527]

maybe this will be end of it all

@ Slim thanks that you noted my proof reading hahaha I do not proof read most of the time so in- order for people to get exactly what I am saying but I didn't want anyone to be able to come back and attack me for spelling or how it written so I took more time than normal.

@Carking thanks love for taking the time, I find it funny how were able to do 2 of them based off the pictures of the futon sheets I thought people might resort to that. I do have to add this though your going to kill me When I got back from sd one the many things that seemed to happen was I lost all of my data on the computer and had to reformat the week before all of my term papers were due so I have no idea who was right and who was wrong but I might go back and just check. It is kinda refreshing that only two did the contest cause I don't have to go back and figure it all out though I am happy to help pass sometime.

@Deidra is correct because we are going on this trip I am going to be doing extra stuff for both guys

@Jon You might not know this but I am one of your biggest fans. You make me laugh so hard sometimes but I feel like you don't sugar coat things and tell it like it is and I can respect that. I don't always agree with you but you have reasons for saying what you do when you do. I will add in this tp what you said about the women because I took the bait with longtimefan I should have just let it go but in the back of my mind I thought really what did he expect. Yes,I have met the boys but what would I say that would cause that many people to read the thread. I do know things about the boys I would never share on here as it should be but I don't know what he was looking to get. I am starting to think it was drama and when he didn't find it he found a way to get some.

I might be rambling and I am sorry for that but I just had a hard week after sd. I came home from sd needing another vacation from my vacation. Only a select few people know this but I had to be rushed to the er after sd because I was loosing a lot of blood and when I got back the last thing on my mind was this contest. So if I came off cross I didn't mean to and it was only my intentions to lift up a site that I enjoy so dearly.

 

[chafu213]

Nice!

Chafu213

 

[slimvintage]

Can this be written in modern day English please. I've had to check the Oxford dictionary no less than 5 times in the above post.
We all know your skill with the pen Slim, but sometimes your skill actually overshadows/clouds over what you're trying to get across - this is meant in a kind way of course.

Maybe you're trying to say that the sudden appearance of so many vocal women on the forum has come as a shock to the male members, and that it's going to take some time before we all get used to the change - a change for the good may I say. The odd phrase of which Longtimefan came out with is bound to come out now and again but, just as most of us males have embraced you girls then maybe you should take a step back when you read one of these male bloopers. If of course it is an obvious attack on your gender then you are correct to "kick off" however, in the case of LTF I don't think it was.

jon, post what you found in the Oxford Abridged on faction, niche, chicken hawk, schadenfreude, recrimination, skewed, coterie, influx and anomaly, and I'll send you, to Mr. Jon, General Delivery, Liverton, a terrific size S club teeshirt from Tito's or Abraxas, you choose which

 

[joninliverton]

Hey Boy Gusher - I don't want fans hun, I'm here for the site and will comment as seem fit. Not sure what SD means but hope you are better following your ER issue.

 

[mikeyank]

Hey Boy Gusher - I don't want fans hun, I'm here for the site and will comment as seem fit. Not sure what SD means but hope you are better following your ER issue.

Jon, I agree with Boy Gusher, when she says,

"Jon You might not know this but I am one of your biggest fans. You make me laugh so hard sometimes but I feel like you don't sugar coat things and tell it like it is and I can respect that. I don't always agree with you but you have reasons for saying what you do when you do"

I've told you myself in private messages, that I really like the fact that you "tell it like it is", (in your opinion of course). In fact you seem to be restraining yourself lately, in light of the "new rules" in the "new forum", (and no one can convince me that this is the same forum that was here several months ago, for reasons that have been enumerated ad nauseam).

So like it or not, you have "fans" here on the forum, and I like your "pull no punches" attitude. I like the same thing in other posters to the forum, many of whom who've been admonished by others for saying something "offensive".

I say it's okay to occasionally offend someone else's sensibilities here. We are all different people, from different parts of the world, with different sensibilities, and it is GOOD and interesting to read folk's honest feelings on issues, and models, even if it may not be politically correct.

I will repeat one thing that I've said "ad nauseam", but I feel is the most pertinent point. Thus is an adult web site, restricted to folks who are of age, and being nicey nice, and always complementary is boring as hell. We should be respectful to one another, but say what you really think, without sugar coating. Let us adults who are into gay porn, be ourselves. It can be a fascinating place here, when we can be ourselves and not politically correct Martha Stewart wannabes.

I now step down from my soapbox and go to work.

 

[BiGurl0527]

@Jon I guess I said that wrong, or the way fan was applied. I meant to say is though you may ruffle some feathers for the most part I get where you are coming from. I don't want fan to make it sound like I am rooting for one person over another but there are people on here that I think if I met them somewhere else I still would want to hear what comes out of their mouth. You seem to be one of those people

Oh yeah also, sd means San diego. I am not completely out of the woods yet but I am getting there. Things would have been so much easier had I been born a gay male !

 

[joninliverton]

OK from now on I will not be PC but DC (directly correct) lol. And if you don't like what I say then read it from a British perspective, because although we speak the same language, there are many differences in meanings.

So to all the faggots, dykes, bisexuals, straights and I don't really know what I am, enjoy the friggin forum. xx

 

[jwglass]

OK from now on I will not be PC but DC (directly correct) lol. And if you don't like what I say then read it from a British perspective, because although we speak the same language, there are many differences in meanings.

So to all the faggots, dykes, bisexuals, straights and I don't really know what I am, enjoy the friggin forum. xx

i dont understand how the word faggot could mean anything different across the water. maybe you could expand on this. i do know that often you call cigarettes "fags", but even that is derogatory. yes, a bundle of wood is called a faggot, and the derogatory meaning of the word faggot comes from the old practice of tieing up gays together and burning them like witches. im sorry i dont know the orgination of the derogatory word "dyke" but i am sure it is just as offensive. so go for it jon, call me a faggot and i will have you reported so quickly your head would spin. i dont tolerate that word from anyone, not even my own family and gay family. they know better than to throw that word and its history back in my face. or how about this, we come to an agreement, i wont call you a twat and you dont call me a faggot. i think that's fair

 

[carking1]

i dont understand how the word faggot could mean anything different across the water. maybe you could expand on this. i do know that often you call cigarettes "fags", but even that is derogatory. yes, a bundle of wood is called a faggot, and the derogatory meaning of the word faggot comes from the old practice of tieing up gays together and burning them like witches. im sorry i dont know the orgination of the derogatory word "dyke" but i am sure it is just as offensive. so go for it jon, call me a faggot and i will have you reported so quickly your head would spin. i dont tolerate that word from anyone, not even my own family and gay family. they know better than to throw that word and its history back in my face. or how about this, we come to an agreement, i wont call you a twat and you dont call me a faggot. i think that's fair

OK, I'm a little perplexed about this post. jw, you sign your posts joseph, but refer to yourself as a girl. You once told me that you were one of the first women on the forum. Your avatar is quite puzzling. I absolutely do not mean this as disrespect, but I am thoroughly confused as to exactly what gener you engender. Seriously.

Then, when jon mentions the word faggot in this thread (which I also deplore the word, along with several others), your claws come out and you inform him that you will have him reported so fast his head will spin. Reported to whom? Is it a bannable offense to use that word? What words constitute banning?

I do think that there should be some leeway for the language barrier, even though we both speak the mother tongue. I have been very careful in referring to what I speak as American, because, as a society, we have murdered the English language. Also, bear in mind, that the British love to make up a nickname for virtually everything. They love rhymes.

My point is this: from time to time, you come up with some pretty off-the-wall posts yourself, and you have a knack for being bawdy, rude, and unsettling (i.e. puking in the rosebushes). Perhaps a little house cleaning around your own back yard would be in order before you blast jon for mentioning every sexual persuasion in a tongue-in-cheek manor. He didn't refer to anyone specifically by any of those terms. Cut the guy some slack, he's one of the good guys. Save your venom for a stalker or a terrorist.

 

[jwglass]

OK, I'm a little perplexed about this post. jw, you sign your posts joseph, but refer to yourself as a girl. You once told me that you were one of the first women on the forum. Your avatar is quite puzzling. I absolutely do not mean this as disrespect, but I am thoroughly confused as to exactly what gener you engender. Seriously.

Then, when jon mentions the word faggot in this thread (which I also deplore the word, along with several others), your claws come out and you inform him that you will have him reported so fast his head will spin. Reported to whom? Is it a bannable offense to use that word? What words constitute banning?

I do think that there should be some leeway for the language barrier, even though we both speak the mother tongue. I have been very careful in referring to what I speak as American, because, as a society, we have murdered the English language. Also, bear in mind, that the British love to make up a nickname for virtually everything. They love rhymes.

My point is this: from time to time, you come up with some pretty off-the-wall posts yourself, and you have a knack for being bawdy, rude, and unsettling (i.e. puking in the rosebushes). Perhaps a little house cleaning around your own back yard would be in order before you blast jon for mentioning every sexual persuasion in a tongue-in-cheek manor. He didn't refer to anyone specifically by any of those terms. Cut the guy some slack, he's one of the good guys. Save your venom for a stalker or a terrorist.

i'm just a very butch lesbian.....as sha, austin and diesal found out in pittsburgh! jk, im a boy.

i will report each comment directed towards me to the super moderator, mark, and will not think twice about it. you can use any language that you want, but as soon as its directed towards a member, it is punishable. so that was my warning. plus this is the one place where we can come and get away from that kind of word. so why use it here even in jest.

as for my off color posts, if they offend you, i do apologize, but i honestly puked in the rose bushes, and i thought others would be amused by that. so i shared it with the community.

i get that jon might have thought he was being funny, and i do appreciate the approach to humor, but my point is that there is nothing funny about that word or its connotation.

 

[jwglass]

i was taken in by the women as one of them. i am a feminist. hence why i consider myself one of the ladies. it has nothing to do with my gender identity, it is just another community to which i belong. as for my avatar, it is a picture of me in drag

 

[joninliverton]

OK, I'm a little perplexed about this post. jw, you sign your posts joseph, but refer to yourself as a girl. You once told me that you were one of the first women on the forum. Your avatar is quite puzzling. I absolutely do not mean this as disrespect, but I am thoroughly confused as to exactly what gener you engender. Seriously.

Then, when jon mentions the word faggot in this thread (which I also deplore the word, along with several others), your claws come out and you inform him that you will have him reported so fast his head will spin. Reported to whom? Is it a bannable offense to use that word? What words constitute banning?

I do think that there should be some leeway for the language barrier, even though we both speak the mother tongue. I have been very careful in referring to what I speak as American, because, as a society, we have murdered the English language. Also, bear in mind, that the British love to make up a nickname for virtually everything. They love rhymes.

My point is this: from time to time, you come up with some pretty off-the-wall posts yourself, and you have a knack for being bawdy, rude, and unsettling (i.e. puking in the rosebushes). Perhaps a little house cleaning around your own back yard would be in order before you blast jon for mentioning every sexual persuasion in a tongue-in-cheek manor. He didn't refer to anyone specifically by any of those terms. Cut the guy some slack, he's one of the good guys. Save your venom for a stalker or a terrorist.

Thanks for that Carking and yes you are correct and it was tounge in cheek in response to some previous posts/interaction with members on this thread, who don't jump on their high horse when they see a word they dislike.

JW is one of the reasons that this forum has got so PC and boring of late - see MikeYanks post earlier. He assumes he can say post/say whatever he wants but when he sees a chance to get at me he does so. It was JW who by using the word twat that caused all the disruption a few months ago and led to some members leaving the forum.

So JW or Jo or Josephine or whatever you call yourself. You are nothing but a shit stirrer (check out the English meaning) and love to disrupt what was just friendly banter. No doubt you have spent many dollars chatting about this to your "fellow girls" on the phone as you say you often do and I don't give a flying fuck if you do, it's your money to waste.

To all the rest of the members, including Boy Gusher, I shall now revert to my PC self of late..

 

[jwglass]

Thanks for that Carking and yes you are correct and it was tounge in cheek in response to some previous posts/interaction with members on this thread, who don't jump on their high horse when they see a word they dislike.

JW is one of the reasons that this forum has got so PC and boring of late - see MikeYanks post earlier. He assumes he can say post/say whatever he wants but when he sees a chance to get at me he does so. It was JW who by using the word twat that caused all the disruption a few months ago and led to some members leaving the forum.

So JW or Jo or Josephine or whatever you call yourself. You are nothing but a shit stirrer (check out the English meaning) and love to disrupt what was just friendly banter. No doubt you have spent many dollars chatting about this to your "fellow girls" on the phone as you say you often do and I don't give a flying fuck if you do, it's your money to waste.

To all the rest of the members, including Boy Gusher, I shall now revert to my PC self of late..

wtf, youre going to completely pin that on me? how is any of that my fault? i never did call you a twat directly, i just used the word, and all of a sudden, the person so afraid of the pc police became an officer himself! not to mention, i had no idea the word had such a horrible meaning for you. I was not the reason members left the forum, and i am hardly the shit stirrer you say i am. but if it makes you happy, i will avoid all direct contact with you from here on. but DONT you dare pin that disruption on me!

 

[joninliverton]

wtf, youre going to completely pin that on me? how is any of that my fault? i never did call you a twat directly, i just used the word, and all of a sudden, the person so afraid of the pc police became an officer himself! not to mention, i had no idea the word had such a horrible meaning for you. I was not the reason members left the forum, and i am hardly the shit stirrer you say i am. but if it makes you happy, i will avoid all direct contact with you from here on. but DONT you dare pin that disruption on me!

Joe I'm glad you will no longer be responding to my posts and tbh I had long not responded to yours, well apart from the poll you put up on a thread on the other section. It was YOU who once again started the trouble by not reading into the post between myself/Boy Gusher and Mike. Had you taken time to read those posts you would have realised it was all a joke.

You jumped in the bath and caused a tsunami..

 

[mikeyank]

Joe I'm glad you will no longer be responding to my posts and tbh I had long not responded to yours, well apart from the poll you put up on a thread on the other section. It was YOU who once again started the trouble by not reading into the post between myself/Boy Gusher and Mike. Had you taken time to read those posts you would have realised it was all a joke.

You jumped in the bath and caused a tsunami..

I have to admit that I was shocked by jw's reaction to Jon's tongue in cheek remarks last night. We were bantering over the use of the term "queen", and it was all in good fun. When Jon said he would start using words like faggot and dyke, etc., jw acted like it was the old "slowly I turned routine" by Abbot and Costello, and threatened to report people directly to Mark and having folks banned for using such "offensive terms". I got disgusted by that whole tone and instead of replying, turned my computer off.

Please keep in mind something we learned as very young folks:

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."

And then there was George Carlin who started trouble with the FCC, with his Seven Dirty Words and I quote from an article:
"The big seven words you weren't allowed to broadcast were: Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits."

Words don't scare me, actions do. For the "umpteenth time", we are all ADULTS on this forum, and we pay money to watch guys engage in fucking, cocksucking, occasionally ass eating, shooting cum on each other's bodies, sometimes swallowing cum, so why should a word like faggot drive someone over the edge.

I understand that some of us may have had some really bad experiences in our youth, and may have been called derogatory words by asshole's, (another "bad" word), but it does not mean that the "bad word" is at fault. If anyone has been gay bashed, I can assure you that you would have been bashed just as badly, if the offensive F word was used or not. It is only a word, and words don't harm or kill, people do.

JW, you have been a valued member of this forum, with an often interesting, if different point of view than some of the other's. Please don't be offended. I would suggest you take a lighter hearted attitude, on this "words" issue and try to keep your sense of humor. You are here with adult friends, No one here is looking to "bash" you.

 

[slimvintage]

This is all about me, me, me. I've been a terrible influence on young Joe and Jon, speaking my mind here since 2008 in the most luxurious fashion, trying to amuse with my lamentable penchant for sophism, sarcasm and irony. I've alienated most of my friends at one point or another with posts that, if I hadn't been chuckling to myself over how clever I thought they were, I'd never have clicked "submit" on. It's not a good idea.

aquarius and carking are two of the friends I've managed to provoke the highest level of disgust in, and who rightly can't stand the sight of me. I may not be able to give up making myself laugh at my own jokes, but am determined to be more respectful, and to read through the posts at least once before clicking them into the record. In my family we always wrote letters to the editor, that goes back years and years. The dogmatic stances those letters have always taken come across as overkill on a forum composed of friends. I don't mean to give up speaking my mind, but am going to be less personal about it. If all you can do well is jeer and sneer, you have to take stock and try harder.

btw, I know that neither Joe nor Jon have emulated me in any way at any time. My saying so was just a way to show solidarity with two valued members of the forum who've got themselves in deeper than they may have meant to.

 

[carking1]

This is all about me, me, me. I've been a terrible influence on young Joe and Jon, speaking my mind here since 2008 in the most luxurious fashion, trying to amuse with my lamentable penchant for sophism, sarcasm and irony. I've alienated most of my friends at one point or another with posts that, if I hadn't been chuckling to myself over how clever I thought they were, I'd never have clicked "submit" on. It's not a good idea.

aquarius and carking are two of the friends I've managed to provoke the highest level of disgust in, and who rightly can't stand the sight of me. I may not be able to give up making myself laugh at my own jokes, but am determined to be more respectful, and to read through the posts at least once before clicking them into the record. In my family we always wrote letters to the editor, that goes back years and years. The dogmatic stances those letters have always taken come across as overkill on a forum composed of friends. I don't mean to give up speaking my mind, but am going to be less personal about it. If all you can do well is jeer and sneer, you have to take stock and try harder.

btw, I know that neither Joe nor Jon have emulated me in any way at any time. My saying so was just a way to show solidarity with two valued members of the forum who've got themselves in deeper than they may have meant to.

Slim, you and I have had our differences, and there was a time when the mention of your name made steam come out of my ears, but I think that we have worked through some MAJOR differences and have come to a better understanding of each other. I don't hate you or even dislike you. I don't always agree with you, and I wish that you didn't find it necessary to use large words to make small statements.

Having said that, slim, jon, mike, I feel that you can say what you like when and how you feel like it. I was once an advocate of political correctness, to the point where I was accused of being a moderator, but I am slowly seeing that PC is sometimes a one-way street, demanded by some, but not observed towards others.

The point I was trying to make last night, cautiously choosing my words, is the jw, a lot of your posts go beyond offensive, are rude, obnoxious and just plain nasty. I thought your post about the twink tripping over "his 25 year old limp pussy" was disgusting and totally disrespectful to Ms. Kianna and her thread. I don't know what chemical you are under the influence of, but I sometimes believe that you have less brain cells left than Ozzie Osborne. Your attempt at humor is, more often than not, at the expense of good taste. Then, you bristle at someone using a word you don't like, and if they do it again, you are going to tell the teacher. What a bunch of horseshit! If someone uses a word you don't like, get the fuck over it. As I said last night, clean around your own back yard before you start pointing fingers at others. And, btw, these are not just my feelings, several members have pm'd me disgusted with your rants and raves. I just happen to have the cajones to tell you how I feel.

 

[BadRomance]

Wasn't sure I ever wanted to make a post here, but I have to say as someone who reads the posts and doesn't contribute, I don't like the use of the word "faggot" either. I know you all are just trying to use it in playful terms, but it's a terrible word. And this is just one opinion from someone who doesn't matter much and isn't really involved. I just wanted to come out of hiding and say what I was feeling. In all those responses attacking each other there was something said that I feel got missed. jwglass said "this is the one place where we can come and get away from that kind of word. so why use it here even in jest." And I couldn't agree more.

 

[carking1]

There are several words I hate, faggot is just one of them. I hate the word cunt, and I bristle when someone uses the "n" word (I can't even type it). Those are just a few.

The real point that is being missed here is that someone can only put you down if you give them permission to do it. If someone calls me a faggot (which, technically, I guess I am), it reflects on them, not on me. It can only reflect on me if I allow it to. I know what and who I am, and no one else can change that unless I let them.

Stand up and be proud of who you are, and don't let anyone else's words hurt you. That is what your mother was trying to tell you years and years ago with the old, "Sticks and stones" routine.