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[johnny]

SAD. The Forum has become that unhappy place Again..

 

[tampa24]

Some o luis' use of language reminds me of a not so noble ovum!!

Indeed, you are getting my drift Stowe!

From the first day, the same thought crossed my mind as well. lol If not him, then quite possibly someone else.

 

[tampa24]

I appreciate your giving a direct reply to my question, although I am still dubious about the the veracity of your reply, but at least you did answer my question.

As you may have noticed from my profile that I've been a member here for a long time, and I have an "obscene" number of posts, so I obviously have a lot of affection for this board, as well of the site. As far as the site goes, there have been ups and downs during my time here. I was totally enchanted in the early days, through snippets on the tube sites which enticed me to join.


But my point is that I am a loyal subscriber and I love the freedom that Mark has given us on these boards, but for the most part, my fellow forumites have always been diplomatic and civil both to each other, the models and to management. It was said when comparing the comment pages to this forum, that the comment pages are like a sleazy bar on the outskirts of town where bar brawls and perhaps stabbings take place late at night, while the forum is a classy upscale establishment.

When you emerged on the forum a few days ago, Lusitania, with an edge, and a definite point of view, I welcomed you wholeheartedly as I definitely feel that while the core members of the forum are near and dear to me, but that the lifeblood of this forum thriving is a costant influx of newbies, and especially those with an edge. But there is also a fine line between 'edgy' and 'annoying' or even being mean spirited, and that is what I'm afraid you have become Lusitania, in just a few days.

I do love this forum and it's cast of characters, but we are always civil and know how to express our occasional or sometimes continual discontent without being mean and turning this into an internet cesspool. That is why some of the regular long term members here like Peter, Johnny, Juanjo and newer members like Vulcan, Inspireme and others are so turned off to your constant "bludgeoning" of the site and your complaining how you are stuck here for a year.

I do appreciate your answer, as we've had people like NobelEgg, and Jeffster and others whose sole purpose here seemed to be to "stir the shit" and it becomes old after a few days, so I would hope that you tone down the vitriol at least a few notches, as I hope the forum will remain my "happy place", and not turn into a field of snipers.

And yes, I do live in Brooklyn, have all my life, and yes Prospect Park is quite pretty, and I hope that if you actually do remain here for a year Lusitania, (and remain on the forum without being banned) that you might lighten up on your act. It is becoming overbearing and annoying to this long term forumite.

This is a great post Mikey. Thanks for conceptualizing many of our thoughts so succinctly. I find it amusing that just because we come to the defense of some of the staff, and just because we don't like to see the forum descend down into the nasty and personally vicious barroom brawls of the comments sections, that we are perceived as or accused of being, "paid" posters. It's funny. Man. If I got my multi-year subscriptions paid for, or got paid by the post, I'd be cleaning up. lol

No. It really can be true that some of us have loved the site, the models and even the staff for so long...that we willingly pay good money (even from meager incomes) to stay here for years.

If Lusitania is truly a new poster who is just disenchanted with the current selections of scenes, I urge him again to be patient. We have seen these cycles play out before. The quality always bounces back.

I also wish you a speedy recovery from the injured toe Lusitania. I know it's not fun to be stuck at home recovering from injuries or surgeries. I've had my fair share of both. That's one of many reasons why I've been here for so long.

 

[another1]

mike, there really was no the "bottom of the barrel" period of BSB1 when David knew that he had relieved of his duties and was obligated to fulfill his contract with less than stellar models. that was more perception than reality.
the end did not come with a here come the end sign. david said he returned from the may holiday weekend. he was prepared to start producing more episodes, when he was told not to produce more episodes. when david stopped producing episodes in may, 2010 there was enough material to fill 13 slots for 11 months. like was lucy in pie factory. there was no get your things and get out of here in say 6 months moment. it came like a bolt of lightening out of the blue.

 

[joninliverton]

mike, there really was no the "bottom of the barrel" period of BSB1 when David knew that he had relieved of his duties and was obligated to fulfill his contract with less than stellar models. that was more perception than reality.
the end did not come with a here come the end sign. david said he returned from the may holiday weekend. he was prepared to start producing more episodes, when he was told not to produce more episodes. when david stopped producing episodes in may, 2010 there was enough material to fill 13 slots for 11 months. like was lucy in pie factory. there was no get your things and get out of here in say 6 months moment. it came like a bolt of lightening out of the blue.

Worst thing that's every happened to Broke Straight Boys

 

[another1]

david did know how to produce good porn. clay never seem to understand his audience. johnny proved himself to be a true professional, even with the early cheap shots. damian was always a very good commercial director. as for Brice Jones, understanding technique and capturing porn are not the same thing. you can't go wrong if the cock is in the frame.

 

[joninliverton]

david did know how to produce good porn. clay never seem to understand his audience. johnny proved himself to be a true professional, even with the early cheap shots. damian was always a very good commercial director. as for Brice Jones, understanding technique and capturing porn are not the same thing. you can't go wrong if the cock is in the frame.

Maybe the Brice Jones ain't right...

 

[betudidntknow]

Let's face it people, we're "addicted to porn" and this site. We get used to the high! When we don't get the same high as before, we blame the dealer! When we start enjoying the high again, we're content for a while. Then, the cycle repeats!

 

[mikeyank]

Let's face it people, we're "addicted to porn" and this site. We get used to the high! When we don't get the same high as before, we blame the dealer! When we start enjoying the high again, we're content for a while. Then, the cycle repeats!

Excellent point and excellent post, Betu! So very true.

 

[johnny]

Let's face it people, we're "addicted to porn" and this site. We get used to the high! When we don't get the same high as before, we blame the dealer! When we start enjoying the high again, we're content for a while. Then, the cycle repeats!

Just following the Herd. Good true post.

 

[another1]

LOLROTFLMFAO!*

laughing out loud, rolling on the floor, laughing me fucking ass off!
and I keep records on when I get the best high.
well said!

 

[tampa24]

clay never seem to understand his audience. johnny proved himself to be a true professional, even with the early cheap shots. damian was always a very good commercial director. as for Brice Jones, understanding technique and capturing porn are not the same thing. you can't go wrong if the cock is in the frame.

I have to agree with you about Clay not understanding his audience. I remember how often people used to cynically ask if he was straight. He missed many opportunities in his earlier scenes especially to capture really hot things going on in a scene, just capture what he thought was more important. Or he would briefly get the models doing something that was really erotic and stimulating, and immediately stop them to move on to another part of the scene. Often times the next segments were much less erotic than what he had just interrupted. Thankfully he finally did get better. But I always felt that he never really got the audience he was trying to entertain.

 

[tampa24]

Let's face it people, we're "addicted to porn" and this site. We get used to the high! When we don't get the same high as before, we blame the dealer! When we start enjoying the high again, we're content for a while. Then, the cycle repeats!

Excellent point and excellent post, Betu! So very true.

Just following the Herd. Good true post.

I wish I could say that Betu is way off base there. But it's so true. haha

 

[vicekid]

I appreciate your giving a direct reply to my question, although I am still dubious about the the veracity of your reply, but at least you did answer my question.

As you may have noticed from my profile that I've been a member here for a long time, and I have an "obscene" number of posts, so I obviously have a lot of affection for this board, as well of the site. As far as the site goes, there have been ups and downs during my time here. I was totally enchanted in the early days, through snippets on the tube sites which enticed me to join. I absolutely loved David and his boys during the days of BSB1. Did I believe all the story lines that David and his boys wove? No, of course not. It is only porn, but it was believable in my fantasy world that Tyler Evans was an innocent 18 year old who went to the car show with his dad and met David. I could believe that Mike Robbins brought his friend Josh down south to meet David to pay off his debt to Mike for wrecking his dirt bike or whatever, and that Alden and Robert were real college roommates who came to Fort Lauderdale during a college break to film gay porn as a lark and discovered how good it was to suck and fuck with their college roommate, and that life back at the dorm was never the same after their two trips to David's studio.

Yes I became bored during the "bottom of the barrel" period of BSB1 when David knew that he had relieved of his duties and was obligated to fulfill his contract with less than stellar models including one transgendered young man who was going through hormone therapy while filming his scenes. I loved the roll out of BSB2 with Jimmy, Jamie, Bobby, Rocco and others, and I became disenchanted with the repetitive nature of Clay's (or is it Shane's) scenes which became formula and not in any way believable that the models were truly in any way heterosexual.

But my point is that I am a loyal subscriber and I love the freedom that Mark has given us on these boards, but for the most part, my fellow forumites have always been diplomatic and civil both to each other, the models and to management. It was said when comparing the comment pages to this forum, that the comment pages are like a sleazy bar on the outskirts of town where bar brawls and perhaps stabbings take place late at night, while the forum is a classy upscale establishment.

When you emerged on the forum a few days ago, Lusitania, with an edge, and a definite point of view, I welcomed you wholeheartedly as I definitely feel that while the core members of the forum are near and dear to me, but that the lifeblood of this forum thriving is a costant influx of newbies, and especially those with an edge. But there is also a fine line between 'edgy' and 'annoying' or even being mean spirited, and that is what I'm afraid you have become Lusitania, in just a few days.

I do love this forum and it's cast of characters, but we are always civil and know how to express our occasional or sometimes continual discontent without being mean and turning this into an internet cesspool. That is why some of the regular long term members here like Peter, Johnny, Juanjo and newer members like Vulcan, Inspireme and others are so turned off to your constant "bludgeoning" of the site and your complaining how you are stuck here for a year.

I asked you after your first cluster of posts to try to be more civil and respectful here as you bring a cloud of discontent to our "happy place", as Danleeh called this forum. So yes, I do thank you for directly answering my question if you were here before, and while I have a great deal of doubt if your reply was genuine, I do appreciate your answer, as we've had people like NobelEgg, and Jeffster and others whose sole purpose here seemed to be to "stir the shit" and it becomes old after a few days, so I would hope that you tone down the vitriol at least a few notches, as I hope the forum will remain my "happy place", and not turn into a field of snipers.

And yes, I do live in Brooklyn, have all my life, and yes Prospect Park is quite pretty, and I hope that if you actually do remain here for a year Lusitania, (and remain on the forum without being banned) that you might lighten up on your act. It is becoming overbearing and annoying to this long term forumite.

Mike,

EXCELLENT reply. Just what I would expect from a fellow Brooklynite. WE have all had our moments of displeasure with scenes, models and with each other. As long as it is donein a relatively repectfully manner and/or with some constructive feedback, we can have a happy healthy forum.



Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

 

[vicekid]

SAD. The Forum has become that unhappy place Again..

It is just a temporary setback. We will rebound as always.

 

[Beth]

It is just a temporary setback. We will rebound as always.

I love "rebounding."

 

[tampa24]

mike, there really was no the "bottom of the barrel" period of BSB1 when David knew that he had relieved of his duties and was obligated to fulfill his contract with less than stellar models. that was more perception than reality.

I actually agree with you on that Another1.

While none of us in here can say which version is right or wrong with total certainty, my understanding was that David was not given a lot of warning before he was let go. So it wasn't like he purposely did several weeks of mediocre scenes out of spite right before he left. There was a huge backlog of scenes that had accumulated before his departure. Many of the scenes we got in the final months before the launch of Broke Straight Boys-2 with Clay as the director, were scenes that had been held back from release precisely because the staff knew they were not very good scenes. But nonetheless they had been paid for with good money, even of they had turned out badly and were likely to get ratings of 2's or 3's.

Also David himself admitted that (while he was still as skillful as ever with a camera) he had started to get burned out on trying to come up with fresh ideas for the scenes. My interpretation of what he was saying was that his creative well was running dry as to how to take the scenes and the site to a newer or fresher level.

 

[joninliverton]

I actually agree with you on that Another1.

While none of us in here can say which version is right or wrong with total certainty, my understanding was that David was not given a lot of warning before he was let go. So it wasn't like he purposely did several weeks of mediocre scenes out of spite right before he left. There was a huge backlog of scenes that had accumulated before his departure. Many of the scenes we got in the final months before the launch of Broke Straight Boys-2 with Clay as the director, were scenes that had been held back from release precisely because the staff knew they were not very good scenes. But nonetheless they had been paid for with good money, even of they had turned out badly and were likely to get ratings of 2's or 3's.

Also David himself admitted that (while he was still as skillful as ever with a camera) he had started to get burned out on trying to come up with fresh ideas for the scenes. My interpretation of what he was saying was that his creative well was running dry as to how to take the scenes and the site to a newer or fresher level.

Well apart from the usual futon scenes, David did differ and went to car lots, camping parks, hotels, etc. Since the operation moved to Colorado - apart from the BTS, we havn't moved out of the studio. I remember the time when we all moaned about the poor scenes that were shot but we were told by Mark - the owner - that they were done and had to be shown. At the end of the day the models were paid so it would have been a waste of money not to show the scenes - as bad as they were.

 

[tampa24]

I remember the time when we all moaned about the poor scenes that were shot but we were told by Mark - the owner - that they were done and had to be shown. At the end of the day the models were paid so it would have been a waste of money not to show the scenes - as bad as they were.

Exactly.

(In reference to some of the last Broke Straight Boys-1 scenes shot several years ago.)

 

[joninliverton]

I note the next new model appears on Jan 27th. That's two newbies for January. If we get two new models for each month then by the end of the year we would have seen 24 new models. Still down on the 40 odd we were seeing a few years ago - but as long as they're hot they will do. I have observed that College Dudes seem to have more newbies coming through their stable and believe me, the last few have been very hot and great performers.