When will the site bring back new models?

[dande01]

datsperhero you are entitled to your opinions as I told you that when I started responding to your posts and threads. As I am not the management, I am just the crew that films for Broke Straight Boys and College Boy Physicals sites and I just wanted to give you my view point to how I interpret filming for management and my thoughts and my experiences since I've been around here for a while.

I personally find that you being a straight man, knowing so much about gay porn, gay studios, and gay models and following them and know so much is very interesting and if you would have gone that approach first, I think the conversation on your posts and threads would have taken a bit more of a nicer kinder tone since we don't have many guys that come onto this forum claiming they are straight and they are not turned on by gay sex so that alone is very interesting and I think you are the first guy that has been on this forum claiming this. We have females prior that use to post, we have had gay man that use to live a straight lifestyle, but you I think are our first real self proclaim straight guy on this forum.

I think if you would have approached your first time here with this conversation then you could have given us your point of view about Broke Straight Boys and you being straight. You would have been so much respected and welcomed instead you made such a drama that it became a turn off for sure and to some.

I think you would have come across in a better aspect then having all this drama from the get go. Its sorta like you are walking into someone's home the first time and your rude and nasty and start making remarks how ugly the furniture is and the paint color and perhaps the floors so having that type of tone, really makes the few members here a bit taken back by your postings and how you handled your first impressions.

I think everyone on this forum including myself as the crew and even management along with the members that post here don't mind a bit of banter and debate and to discuss about models and scenes, its very welcomed here on the Broke Straight Boys forum thus why this forum was created years ago. Not everyone is going to agree what they like to see and they type of models. Broke Straight Boys has a lot of members and they all have there opinions and we can't satisfy everyone all of the time. I don't think any business can accomplish that.

I've notice from all the years I have been involved with production and being on this forum, we have had many guys come here and started drama to only fight and finally ignored by other members. Heck, some members were even turned off by the actions of others and refuse to come back here to the forum because they didn't like all the drama and fighting and I would hate to see that again.

If you are going to come into this Broke Straight Boys forum and act as if you know inside information about Broke Straight Boys and how the operation is operating and compare it to other sites and point out what Broke Straight Boys and management is doing wrong, then I don't think your reception here is going to be well received especially when you don't have insider information about the inner workings of Broke Straight Boys I've been involved with Broke Straight Boys since 2003 and I don't know the "inner workings" of the site and I don't know what really does well or what models they want to hire.

Lets say your the owner of this site and you have a crew that films Broke Straight Boys, and you tell that crew...this is how you want to have Broke Straight Boys filmed and the type of models and your site is earning money and you have a great group of loyal members. The members may bitch and moan but overall, the members love the Broke Straight Boys brand and you as the owner are doing well. Then they must be doing something right and since you, I and the other members don't know the "inner workings" of Broke Straight Boys (we can assume or think or theorize) but at the end of the day, they tell me what is doing well and what is not doing well and I have to listen to there instructions and guidance because they know better then myself and they must be doing something right since they are still in business while other studios gone of business, our industry has been reduced a lot and this has nothing to do with Broke Straight Boys and ownership, this is industry wide we are all facing challenging times.

Please continue to post but perhaps you can take my advice and be a bit more gentle and I think you will see how the tone will change and a lot of the members and even myself would love to ask you questions about yourself...I know MikeYank properly has a list of questions already in the workings.

Perhaps we can start fresh..and welcome to the Broke Straight Boys forum!!!

 

[datsperhero]

no. You are welcome here. I honestly just think you misinterpreted my original comment.
I do apologize for attacking your sexuality….that was low of me, but people say things they don’t mean in defense….still no excuse, so I do apologize. You will always be welcome here.
I truly didn’t say anything negative to you about your opinions in this thread and you misinterpreted my comment and then tried to say I was being petty towards you. Why would you think that? You obviously have opinions of my past or you wouldn’t have brought them up. Do you think I would deliberately attack a new member out of the blue? Please tell me the truth because I don’t want to come across as that person. I have deliberately stayed quiet for the past month to give respect and the first time I respond with an opinion I got your feedback and it was just a slap in the face which is why I responded so harshly. So I would like to know what I said in my original comment that made you think I was being “Petty” towards you?

Although I do accept your apology...it wasn't all on you and me taking an indefinite break from here isn't all because our engagement. I felt your post was being shady as if you were saying the members outside the forum don't care what the few folks in here have to say and as someone new to the forum it read across well in my opinion and your "myself included" read as if you didn't care all that much either and it is what is. and you went on to defend Broke Straight Boys talking other studios not being as strict as some others, so as i'm putting out what I believe to flaws about a response like that read like you were trying push again my point even though you said you prefer new guys as well but felt like nothing would be down about it, here's why, and it is what it is.

the post under yours read, Have a good snooze.
and I interpreted that as he recognized the post was kind of petty too, the reason why he said go back into hibernation.

this was all odd too in tone, especially right one user said that he supported me and wish me and management success.

but to make matters even worst an actually staff member of the site brings up the fact that I'm straight out of no where. Its was ODD, DISRESPECTFUL, and completely UNPROFESSIONAL.

So I'm like I came here really for one thing and that was to ask that question and share what I thought about a subject I brought up. I didn't even realize a person would respond so soon let alone the owner and one of the staff. So when things like this happen in my day I'm just like I don't want my peaceful days to be filled with any unnecessary drama nor be in an environment where I have to defend myself or shrink my personality when I can just simply not be around.

People online attack people all the time on social media, oftentimes for no legitimate reason at all so I didn't know exactly what you were trying to say while reading quickly and multitasking, which is why in my response at the top before any of the points made I told you it felt like shade. That should have told you right there that I may have not understood your comment well, but you didn't clarify back that you wasn't trying to come off that way but that you were actually saying you pretty much agreed with me until after all the madness happened.

And when David replied it just got way out of hand so if a member of the site is treating me like this after a day and a half, I don't know if this is an environment I want to be in. He didn't even say I don't want y'all two to get banned; he just said he didn't want you to get banned. I have learned in my few years on this earth that these types of things says alot about a person, so my first expression of him isn't good at this point plus I can tell he was offended with some of the points I made about the site. Which I can understand you want to defend what you create but I would have thought; people would be open to more suggestions as well especially when everybody know for a fact this site isn't what it use to be, so much so that Mark himself commenting on one of my post asking if I could get in touch with the old popular models so they could possibly come back.

It almost seems like the loyalty of maybe a handful of models is the main concern here which is why David mentioned he privately chats with about 50 members about the site and things of that nature so I guess the members in that group pretty much sets the tone for the site and if the people in that group are happy; then I guess all is well. So I don't want you to think it's all on you. The overall scoop of this is bigger than that. I am mature enough to forgive and move on.

 

[br6205]

I think your purpose of coming on the site is to revive it and make it both unique and attractive for people to join. For me while I post more than a lot of porn that is not the what is most important to me. It is to develop friendships. In our case I want to get to know all about you not because of your unique relationship to porn but who you are as a human being. That is why I messaged you. But if that does not interest you, fine I will continue as I have and back you to the hilt but also disagree when I see things differently.

 

[datsperhero]

datsperhero you are entitled to your opinions as I told you that when I started responding to your posts and threads. As I am not the management, I am just the crew that films for Broke Straight Boys and College Boy Physicals sites and I just wanted to give you my view point to how I interpret filming for management and my thoughts and my experiences since I've been around here for a while.

I personally find that you being a straight man, knowing so much about gay porn, gay studios, and gay models and following them and know so much is very interesting and if you would have gone that approach first, I think the conversation on your posts and threads would have taken a bit more of a nicer kinder tone since we don't have many guys that come onto this forum claiming they are straight and they are not turned on by gay sex so that alone is very interesting and I think you are the first guy that has been on this forum claiming this. We have females prior that use to post, we have had gay man that use to live a straight lifestyle, but you I think are our first real self proclaim straight guy on this forum.

I think if you would have approached your first time here with this conversation then you could have given us your point of view about Broke Straight Boys and you being straight. You would have been so much respected and welcomed instead you made such a drama that it became a turn off for sure and to some.

I think you would have come across in a better aspect then having all this drama from the get go. Its sorta like you are walking into someone's home the first time and your rude and nasty and start making remarks how ugly the furniture is and the paint color and perhaps the floors so having that type of tone, really makes the few members here a bit taken back by your postings and how you handled your first impressions.

I think everyone on this forum including myself as the crew and even management along with the members that post here don't mind a bit of banter and debate and to discuss about models and scenes, its very welcomed here on the Broke Straight Boys forum thus why this forum was created years ago. Not everyone is going to agree what they like to see and they type of models. Broke Straight Boys has a lot of members and they all have there opinions and we can't satisfy everyone all of the time. I don't think any business can accomplish that.

I've notice from all the years I have been involved with production and being on this forum, we have had many guys come here and started drama to only fight and finally ignored by other members. Heck, some members were even turned off by the actions of others and refuse to come back here to the forum because they didn't like all the drama and fighting and I would hate to see that again.

If you are going to come into this Broke Straight Boys forum and act as if you know inside information about Broke Straight Boys and how the operation is operating and compare it to other sites and point out what Broke Straight Boys and management is doing wrong, then I don't think your reception here is going to be well received especially when you don't have insider information about the inner workings of Broke Straight Boys I've been involved with Broke Straight Boys since 2003 and I don't know the "inner workings" of the site and I don't know what really does well or what models they want to hire.

Lets say your the owner of this site and you have a crew that films Broke Straight Boys, and you tell that crew...this is how you want to have Broke Straight Boys filmed and the type of models and your site is earning money and you have a great group of loyal members. The members may bitch and moan but overall, the members love the Broke Straight Boys brand and you as the owner are doing well. Then they must be doing something right and since you, I and the other members don't know the "inner workings" of Broke Straight Boys (we can assume or think or theorize) but at the end of the day, they tell me what is doing well and what is not doing well and I have to listen to there instructions and guidance because they know better then myself and they must be doing something right since they are still in business while other studios gone of business, our industry has been reduced a lot and this has nothing to do with Broke Straight Boys and ownership, this is industry wide we are all facing challenging times.

Please continue to post but perhaps you can take my advice and be a bit more gentle and I think you will see how the tone will change and a lot of the members and even myself would love to ask you questions about yourself...I know MikeYank properly has a list of questions already in the workings.

Perhaps we can start fresh..and welcome to the Broke Straight Boys forum!!!

No where in this whole book of a response is an apology anywhere. SMH.

before you responded to my first post, all you had to do was make it more clear to me that you don't know much about the operations of Broke Straight Boys overall; you just basically the cameraman and a lot of this could have been avoided but you were so adamant about defending the site because you work there. And once you found out I was straight your truly colors came out it seems and you keep I should have told y'all that I was straight before sharing my thoughts is dumb because its always up to that person what they want to reveal about themselves and when. Its sad I have to explain that to a person that records porn for living.

I didn't create drama, a started a THREAD only ONE DAY AGO and you are making it seem as if I have had a history of creating drama on this forum when I haven't even been quite active a full 48-72 hours yet. I was expressing my thoughts to what I thought would be a staff member that would be able to do something about what I said or at least shared the information with someone that could or at least look into it, which is why we ended up going back and forward on points that were made.

Needing and wanting to ask personal questions isn't why I joined the forum so I'm not just interested in sharing my life with strangers right off the back like that especially after all of this.

 

[br6205]

datsperhero You have a right to be offended & I am sorry you were treated that way, it was wrong and I hope it is in the past..I as a member apologize and I hope we can move on from there. You bring a unique prospective and it would be a great loss to lose you.

 

[datsperhero]

I think your purpose of coming on the site is to revive it and make it both unique and attractive for people to join. For me while I post more than a lot of porn that is not the what is most important to me. It is to develop friendships. In our case I want to get to know all about you not because of your unique relationship to porn but who you are as a human being. That is why I messaged you. But if that does not interest you, fine I will continue as I have and back you to the hilt but also disagree when I see things differently.

That's all it was or at least start the conversation going but I guess that wasn't a conversation some wanted to hear or be apart of although they replied to what I said.

 

[datsperhero]

datsperhero You have a right to be offended & I am sorry you were treated that way, it was wrong and I hope it is in the past..I as a member apologize and I hope we can move on from there. You bring a unique prospective and it would be a great loss to lose you.

Thank you.

 

[br6205]

That's all it was or at least start the conversation going but I guess that wasn't a conversation some wanted to hear or be apart of although they replied to what I said.

The vocal minority who did don't speak for me and many others.

 

[Jaybifla]

Datsperhero, it was a misunderstanding and I apologize. What I meant to say is very few people comment on the forum and the majority of members don’t care what we think because they don’t actually read the forum. They just give high scores and move on. And (myself included) meant that they don’t care what I think either. The rest of my comment about testing etc, was just an idea or assumption. I have no idea.
In David’s defense about being banned….you didn’t say anything to be considered being banned for. That’s why he singled me out, because he probably already knows I’m on the edge. Sometimes I honestly think they use me for entertainment. I am defensive but that comes from childhood trauma and mental issues I’d rather not discuss. But I’m sure everybody here already assumes that.

Please reconsider staying.

 

[datsperhero]

Datsperhero, it was a misunderstanding and I apologize. What I meant to say is very few people comment on the forum and the majority of members don’t care what we think because they don’t actually read the forum. They just give high scores and move on. And (myself included) meant that they don’t care what I think either. The rest of my comment about testing etc, was just an idea or assumption. I have no idea.
In David’s defense about being banned….you didn’t say anything to be considered being banned for. That’s why he singled me out, because he probably already knows I’m on the edge. Sometimes I honestly think they use me for entertainment. I am defensive but that comes from childhood trauma and mental issues I’d rather not discuss. But I’m sure everybody here already assumes that.

Please reconsider staying.

Again, like I said its not on you that I'm taking a break. I'll be back in from time to time to check in with you guys but since I'm no longer a new of the site I can't say how often. I don't think I can much to whats already taking place here and everybody seems to get along already and think more so alike and different from me. I fear my views may end up being divisive.

 

[br6205]

Again, like I said its not on you that I'm taking a break. I'll be back in from time to time to check in with you guys but since I'm no longer a new of the site I can't say how often. I don't think I can much to whats already taking place here and everybody seems to get along already and think more so alike and different from me. I fear my views may end up being divisive.

You are wrong. The Forum is a [ place to broaden one's knowledge & it will be a personal loss to see you go because you are someone who could help broaden me my vision and knowledge and in turn might be able to do the same for you.

 

[br6205]

Dat now that you had time to sleep on it, I hope you shall return and continue to push to make the powers to be change their thinking and upgrade our site.

 

[br6205]

Dustin please come back we miss you!

 

[tampa24]

Welcome to the forum Datsperhero!

 

[tampa24]

Well...I can tell you if you go to the section of the site and on "the boys"....

Duncan is new to Broke Straight Boys and only filmed for Broke Straight Boys
Ashton came from CF site has a girlfriend and he considers himself gay4pay.
Justin Salvador is new only seen here on Broke Straight Boys and only filmed Broke Straight Boys
Lucas Porter has filmed for other studios considers himself bisexual
Izzy Danger filmed only for Broke Straight Boys thus so far, I think he filmed for maybe another studio after us.
Darron Bluu has been filmed by everyone. He is gay4pay but he wants to make as much money as he can and its seems the other Broke Straight Boys members really like him and don't care he's been all over the place filming since his ratings are pretty good.
Elliot Dahl...new to Broke Straight Boys, he is gay and he has never filmed before or after Broke Straight Boys..his fetish is to have sex with straight boys.
Stirling J...has started working with Broke Straight Boys, went to one other studio doing other straight for gay work, only worked for us and another studio.
Gian Long, has only appeared on Broke Straight Boys Is bisexual.
Jesse Stone came from CF site. He filmed 10 scenes with CF and after his contract was up, he filmed with our studio next. He considers himself gay4pay and has really over exposed himself but the members here like him has great ratings.
Charlie Knox started with Broke Straight Boys, he did a few studios afterwards, nothing to write home about... then came back to Broke Straight Boys, filmed again and decided to retire from filming, its not for him since he is straight and not really interested for him.
Jordan Cruz only filmed for CF, then came here to Broke Straight Boys His ratings weren't so great so we didn't ask him back.
Connor Tyler film for one twink site. The only Broke Straight Boys He has filmed more with Broke Straight Boys and our sister site College Boy Physicals then other studios and he considers himself Bisexual.
Grey Gold filmed one solo. Then came here to Broke Straight Boys Did a few scenes thereafter and he is no longer interested in filming anymore.
Nico Nova started with Broke Straight Boys, he has filmed a few scenes with other studios. He considers himself bisexual, gay4pay. But he limits himself to where he works since he has a full time job and has only done Broke Straight Boys as most of his porn career.

As you can see just from the few names I pulled up, these guys are not all over the place filming porn. It may feel like that with some, but I am not sure which guys you speak about. Even back in the old days, boys came and went as well on Broke Straight Boys so not sure which guys you are referring to.

Great post David. Thank you!


I have to agree with you on Jesse Stone. He may be slightly over-exposed but I really like him a lot! He has such a compelling backstory and I get even greater satisfaction knowing that this work is helping him out financially. I hope the paycheck does make his personal life better.

If I'm honest, the fact that I know he is straight (or mostly straight) I get an especially great thrill out of watching him bottom. haha

 

[br6205]

Tampa we usually agree on things but not here. In no way can a man do gay porn and stay straight or have been straight. He may have a p[reference for women in his private life but his body sure tells us he likes having sex with men too!

 

[dande01]

Jesse does have a girlfriend but he gets into "sissyfication" type sex with his girlfriend outside of porn. Matter of face, Jessie is so over-exposed that he also does bi-porn and you can see him having sex with females. He is one of the few guys that have started in "gay porn" and is now crossing over into "straight porn". I've been watching his career in porn closely since he keeps in contact with me almost every day.

 

[br6205]

Jesse does have a girlfriend but he gets into "sissyfication" type sex with his girlfriend outside of porn. Matter of face, Jessie is so over-exposed that he also does bi-porn and you can see him having sex with females. He is one of the few guys that have started in "gay porn" and is now crossing over into "straight porn". I've been watching his career in porn closely since he keeps in contact with me almost every day.

Sounds like an equal opportunity porn slut to me. Dande I do owe you an apology. You have aright to earn money as you can & like. Back to Jesse, he is not managing his porn career as a long term thing and as others before him won't last much longer baring the unexpected. On the other hand I think Darron has done a better job. Either he is being guided better or just is more career savvy. Just my opinion but what do I know.

 

[tampa24]

Jesse does have a girlfriend but he gets into "sissyfication" type sex with his girlfriend outside of porn. Matter of fact, Jessie is so over-exposed that he also does bi-porn and you can see him having sex with females. He is one of the few guys that have started in "gay porn" and is now crossing over into "straight porn". I've been watching his career in porn closely since he keeps in contact with me almost every day.

Thanks for that insight David.

Since hearing Jesse's story of being kicked out onto the streets as a minor so that his parents could be empty nesters and have fewer expenses, I've pondered now and then how I would deal with any kind of reconciliation later. I wouldn't wanna give them the satisfaction of being able to tell friends and distant family that they have a good relationship with their son. As if nothing terrible had ever happened. They should be outed and shamed for what they did to him. I wouldn't want to ever give them bragging rights of being able to lie to others and say what a good or even "normal" relationship they have with their kid.

Personally I don't think I could have ever reconciled with them. (Though admittedly I have not walked a mile in Jesse's moccasins.) Or at the very least before a reconciliation, I would have made sure first that I outed the parents for their previous bullsh*t to all of their closest friends and most of the family, both near and far, for who they really are. It's unfortunate that the parents could not have been criminally charged with some form of neglect or abuse for what they did. (Plus the issues of burdening other taxpayers and local businesses to financially support their child.) There was a drain on social services for one more homeless person to try to help out, along with the petty theft, shoplifting, and the like that the parents unleashed on to their own community. People like that shouldn't be able to just go to church, participate in their wider community and put on airs that they are good, upstanding citizens. When they're not. At all.

I feel the same way about parents who toss their 14 year old or slightly older minor children out onto the streets for being gay. Don't just feel sorry for the children. Help the children, yes. But throw both the parents, or step-parents, responsible adult parties, etc., in the slammer. Take away any other kids from them too. Don't let them continue to walk around and function in free society pretending to be decent, law-abiding "God-fearing" citizens. They're criminals in my opinion.

And this is me moderating myself and holding back. haha

 

[br6205]

If his story is true then I fully agree with you Tampa but I have been fooled and even hurt so often in the past by such stories it does give me pause.