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What I don't like about Jimmy!

What did you write on this forum Tobye? What ever made Jimmy say: ""Nobody gives a fuck Tobey".

Words are mightier than the sword. In fact it's real easy to hurt people with. And see the result, Tobey's feelings got hurt so much, he still can't let go.

It's way harder to come up with well formed opinion, and make a real contribution to this forum.
 
RRHILL, Quit the bashing

RRHILL, you demand respect, yet you spell my simple name wrong, It's TOBEY, only 5 letters so you can remember it.
I my responce to Tequila69, I did not mention you or anyone else by name, only Tequila69's name was used It seems that you have inserted yourself as judge and jury pertaining to what people can say.--- NOT!!!!!
I believe every member has a right to their own opion, and also has the right to express it, we don't have a right to take them to task because of the way they feel. By the way, I don't agree with you.
 
Take you own advice.

RRHILL
You should involve yourself in meaning full discussions, not bashing others. I will apways feel free to talk about jimmy
Tobey
 
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Sorry for the typo Tobey. Let's recap.

You are saying: A paying member of Broke Straight Boys, is allowed to express his feelings and comment on models, in words they choose to say.

But no member has the right to take another member to task.

Jimmy is a member here on the forum too, so why take him to task? Let me hold a mirror in front of you. Your reactions learn me nothing about Jimmy, they do say a lot about yourself Tobey.

Just tried view Colin and the other model. Jimmy, I don't need your mouth and your cock is nothing special. I'm sure you are a nice guy, but here you are not the type of model I can tolerate.
Why when BSBII has so many great models, that have a nice personality and are totally enjoyable to watch, do they subject us with you. Colin, you were great. I gave it a one, cause that is the lowest number I could give. Watch this video to see Colin, he's worth it.:thumbdown: Tobey

This scene was a waste of time and video tape. (...) Jimmy should take a hint from Clay. I found Jimmy hard to listen too, and overbearing as usual. Jimmy hogged the whole scene, ruining the video for me. Colin and Mark get a 5:thumbup:
Jimmy gets a 1:mad:
Video gets the average 3
Tobey

I don't like Jimmy, but I hope he's smarter then tea party membership.

Yeah Right!
You have got to be kidding! Jimmy the savior of BSBII, Are you kidding? I can understand some members liking Jimmy, even though I can't understand, why anyone likes Jimmy.

My feelings go back to a Broke Straight Boys behind the scenes interview, when Jimmy said of my comments," Nobody gives a fuck." I find Jimmy, a person that I don't want to watch or hear from, I don't like his attitude towards other models on camera and his total disrespect of the members. I don't think Jimmy understands where his salary comes from.

Lastly, I don't want to deny any members enjoyment if they like Jimmy. I just wish that Mark and Clay would use Jimmy a little less. As for Jimmy's contract I hope it expires-- YESTERDAY
Tobey


Enough of Jimmy's mouth
Mark,
I don't know what we, the BSBII members ever did to you that you see fit to move a great talent like Jack Taylor to College, and leave us with that loud mouth, arrogant, waste of time Jimmy Johnson. Thanks a bunch. I know some members like Jimmy's smart ass mouth, great for them.
Me, I resent almost every word that flows from his mouth. Jimmy's total disrespect of his fellow models is sickening. (...) To me Jimmy will be always be," What's his name." I gave the video a one, not because of the performances of Jamie or Drake :thumbup:, but for the garbage mouth what's his name.

Jimmy, How stupid do you think the members are?

Another waste of time with Jimmy. Jimmy is NOT the center of the universe, and to act as if he is is insulting to me and other members. The only thing about this minus scene, besides Bradly, is that BSBII can't get any worse.Tobey
 
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You certainly bashed Tobey today, rrhill!! You took his own comments and used them against him! His comments are definitely harsh, but he has the right to make them! If some members are using bashing as a form of criticism, why hasn't management stepped in and stopped it? Why hasn't management laid down some rules about what kind of language can be used? I concur with Ms. K. that if you put yourself out there, you've got to take the good and the bad, no matter how it's dished out! How much do you think the bashed model cares? He's getting his money and management is getting their's! To use the model's own words, "Nobody gives a fuck!"

In the context we are using the word bashing, it's definition is as follows: "Severe criticism." Let's look at the language Tobey used in his posts: overbearing, loud mouthed, arrogant, waste of time, smarter than tea party membership would you characterize these words as severe? Let's look at them individually: is "overbearing" more severe than "you're worse than a fucking dominatrix"; is "arrogant" more severe than
"you selfish prick"; is "waste of time" more severe than "you're nothing but a boring fuck"; is
"smarter than tea party membership" more severe than "you're just a dumb fucking moron!" To me, the latter use of each word is more severe than the words Tobey used!

And, if you're implying that his whole attitude can be described as bashing, I think he's just pissed at that model's performances and is giving management his opinions of what they can do with that model! Personally, I'm glad that Tobey feels free to say whatever he wants about the model in question! And if that model doesn't like it, then let him come on the forum and bash Tobey! I am sure that Tobey is man enough to take it!
 
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Personally, I'm glad that Tobey feels free to say whatever he wants about the model in question! And if that model doesn't like it, then let him come on the forum and bash Tobey! I am sure that Tobey is man enough to take it!

Nobody is man enough enough to take offensive words. Did you not read Tobey's complaint?

Remember Jimmy chose to say to me on an episode of,"Behind the Scenes"
"Nobody gives a fuck", when told of something I wrote in the forum.

So I looked up what kind 'of somethings' Tobey wrote about Jimmy. If he really dislikes Jimmy that much... why does Tobey let Jimmy live in his head rent free?

It's all in the tone of the criticism Tobey, that differentiates between a poster giving his honest opinion, and a sarcastic, mean-spirited attack, which is often the tone of both "tea partiers" in politics, and with the few vocal "Jimmy haters" on this site.(...)
(...)The whole purpose of this forum is to give us a platform to vocalize our opinions, which can be divergent, as long as they are presented in a respectful manner.

Let's ask Mark's opinion about if it's okay to bash a model, and have that model bash you back; because we are all man enough...
 
I try not to censor much here but if you guys are constantly going to bash someone then you will get a warning and possible ban from the board. I always put myself in these guys shoes and I certainly wouldn't to have people bash me. These guys are having gay sex for money for our enjoyment. I think every single model on this site deserves a hand and no I don't mean like that lol.

Mark
 
Thanks!

Thanks, Mark for your reply! What do you consider "bashing?"
 
I try not to censor much here but if you guys are constantly going to bash someone then you will get a warning and possible ban from the board. I always put myself in these guys shoes and I certainly wouldn't to have people bash me. These guys are having gay sex for money for our enjoyment. I think every single model on this site deserves a hand and no I don't mean like that lol.

Mark

Sorry Mark, but after I watched the Palm Springs BTS, I just can't. There was nothing decent or honorable there.

Having gay sex for money, is a way to make a living.........the things that were said on that BTS, was shameful and the very worst example of disrespect.
 
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RRHILL, you demand respect, yet you spell my simple name wrong, It's TOBEY, only 5 letters so you can remember it.
I my responce to Tequila69, I did not mention you or anyone else by name, only Tequila69's name was used It seems that you have inserted yourself as judge and jury pertaining to what people can say.--- NOT!!!!!
I believe every member has a right to their own opion, and also has the right to express it, we don't have a right to take them to task because of the way they feel. By the way, I don't agree with you.
Please keep in mind Tobey, that Robert is Dutch, lives in Holland and English is not his native tongue. I am actually incredibly impressed at his command of our language, and how well he communicates with us in English, including many idioms that I'm sure are incredibly difficult to master. And I would imagine the name "Tobey" is not one that he is familiar with in his land.

If he misspells or has a typo in his text, I think that it is small of you to call him out on it. After all, I assume that English is your first language and you misspelled both "response" and "opinion" in your reply. I would normally never point out a poster's spelling or grammar, but I am just trying to show that you post is rather mean spirited.

Secondly, you have accused me in the past of responding to something that you said to another member, and I would again point out to you that we have a "private message" feature here where members can privately communicate with one another, but when we post to this open board, it is both proper and appropriate for any one who reads it to reply.

Finally, I want to say again that our like or dislike of any model, including the highly controversial Jimmy is oh so totally subjective, and we can never all agree. I feel that Tequila has stated his points, as has Robert, and I was particularly impressed with Tequila's Post # 18 in this thread where he said:

"I finally realized that what disturbs me about Jimmy makes me react with my emotions and not with my mind. To me, he is that gorgeous straight boy I loved in high school, but hated for being such a bully!! The kind you described. The cocky one who put you down every chance he got because it was part of being the "good old boy." Even though, you feel he's getting better, his scenes make me see RED!! And, consequently, I become the bully I hate so much when I post my opinions about his performances! I am not a bully, nor do I ever want to become one! So, I'll be patient with him, because you asked me to, but for the time being, I'm keeping my opinions about Jimmy to
myself!"


I loved his honesty and self understanding in that post, and I totally respect him for what he said.

At the end of the day, this is a porn site, designed to get us hot and horny, and if a scene really works for us, we will become sexually excited, and achieve an orgasm. I am turned on by a cocky straight guy, it makes me get "hard". You may love to watch two guys kiss and attain mutual orgasms. My straight friends who do not watch gay male porn may get the same reaction from watching two woman have sex together. We are all different, and receive our sexual pleasure from different types of people and scenarios. It is all okay.

I respect Tequila's taste which may differ from mine, as much as Robert's which is often similar to mine. We the members of this site are as diverse in our tastes, as the types of model's that Mark employs trying to please us. Can't we all try to respect each other's taste, without using negative and insulting comments, regarding each other? It sure would make things much more pleasant and friendly on the forum.

We will NEVER all agree as to what is hot and "gets us off", but we can agree to be civil with each other, and respect our divergent tastes. That would be a tremendous improvement for 2012.
 
"Bashing is a harsh, gratuitous, prejudicial attack on a person, group or subject. Literally, bashing is a term meaning to hit or assault, but when it is used as a suffix, or in conjunction with a noun indicating the subject being attacked, it is normally used to imply that the act is motivated by bigotry.<sup class="Template-Fact" style="white-space:nowrap;">[citation needed]</sup> The term is also used metaphorically, to describe verbal or critical assaults. Topics which attract bashing tend to be highly partisan and personally sensitive topics for the bashers, the victims or both. Common areas include religion, nationality, sexuality and politics.

Karen Franklin, in her paper "Psychosocial motivations of hate crimes perpetrators" identifies the following motivations for bashing: socially instilled prejudice or partisan conflict; the perception that the bashing subject is in some way contrary to, or in offense to, an underlying ideology; group or peer influence."
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashing_(pejorative)
 
"You certainly bashed Tobey today, rrhill!! You took his own comments and used them against him!"

Only quoted some recent posts of Tobey in a thread titled: "What I don't like about Jimmy!" Never would I dare to speak to Tobey, in Tobey's words because that really would hurt his feelings.

Your definition I liked best Tequila: "Why would anybody have to right to spew sarcastic BS on this forum; about Jimmy, Tobey, you, or anyone else."
 
Shameful!

How would you, rrhill, characterize the comments and references made in the BTS Palm Springs Pride, Parts 1 & 2? Watch them and tell me how we are to respect the young men in the videos! Listen very carefully to the model you defend so staunchly on this forum! If Mark wants to start censoring negative comments because they are considered bashing, he needs to clean out his own house first! He's got a much bigger problem than censorship!!
 
Your definition I liked best Tequila: "Why would anybody have to right to spew sarcastic BS on this forum; about Jimmy, Tobey, you, or anyone else."

Why, because that's how you felt! And if that's the way you feel, then you need to call out the person on it! Just the way I did to you after your post on how lonely I must be!
 
The devils deal

But it is how you felt towards me Tequila. You wrote: "(Robert) I'd rather you not write anything to me at all if you're going to spew nothing but arrogant, sarcastic BS".

Very much so indeed Sir! Why would anybody have to right to spew sarcastic BS on this forum; about Jimmy, Tobey, you, or anyone else.

As long as Jimmy stays the most debated model here in this forum, why would Broke Straight Boys send him away? Never slaughter the chicken with the golden eggs. Negative publicity is as useful as positive publicity.

"Because, seriously guys and gals, if all the ranting and raving about how bad Jimmy is hasn't gotten him his walking papers, you can bet he's going to be around a long time!:sleeping:"

If you Jimmy haters want him out of here, ignore him. That will silence up Jimmy and his Knights of the Round Table... when there's no fuel left.
 
:ban:Tequilla, I must admit frankly that I finally finished the Palm Springs Pride Behind the Scene and I hang my head because I am just thinking to myself "Jimmy what the hell were you thinking" and Rob and Cole you were no better either. All three of you should be ashamed of yourself for some of your rude and degrading comments about the girls/women. I can't believe that management was dumb enough not to edit some of that out because it was sad to listen to three guys I like and respect talk and act like they did, thank God it was the last pride of the year because you dug yourselve a hole on this one.

Tequila, again I have to agree with you that Mark needs to look at his own team when making threats about bashing people. This was just unexcuseable and again he needs to apologize to the members for allowing that garbage to be posted.
 
Mark answered to a question I asked him: if he felt it is okay to bash a model, and have that model bash you back.

This is my last post in this thread. Written on the pages is the answer to a never ending story.
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJv-o88Wbwk&feature=related

Turn around, look at what you see.
In her face, the mirror of your dreams.
Make believe I'm everywhere, living in your eyes.
Written on the pages is the answer to a never ending story.

Living inside this dream, there’s so much that’s unexplained.
Somehow we find the way to start the journey once again.

Drifting inside our dreams,
there’s a never ending story inside our hearts now.
Hope for a better world,
where the chance of it all
is a hope for a better day.
Dreams we dream together...
We can find a way.
Dreams we dream together...
 
I usually don't watch the BTS because there is way to much for me to watch and I don't have the time. Can you guys fill me in as to what was said in them?
Thanks
Steve
 
I usually don't want the BTS because there is way to much for me to watch and I don't have the time. Can you guys fill me in as to what was said in them?
Thanks
Steve

I sent you a PM, Steve. I said that I wouldn't bash, no matter how appropriate I think it would be.

I think it would be a great idea, if we never had another Jimmy thread, and ignored any that he created on his own. He doesn't deserve our time, attention, or money.
 
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