Tyler, Nu & Jake Episode

[mactee]

I get the message.

I'm not trying to say that "I am right", and this is just my personal opinion on these three guys. By the way, as so many members of the forum check the "ratings" so closely, this episode is currently rated at 4.1. Not a great rating, but a lot better than the reviews on this thread would indicate, so I'm not the only one who found it good, if not great.

Hi Mike, you are so clear in your opinion that I must acquiesce in total in light of my nick picking, which should have been dick picking. Ha-ha, from an old southern boy, but hold on to your crouch, the south will rise (get hard) again!

 

[tucsonjayce]

Mikeyank:

Wow. What a great post. I, too, had the idea that maybe Tyler was "filling in" for someone who flaked. It happens. Of the 4 guys that David has accepted from my referrals, only one has actually made it to the Florida and the futon. A couple of them went so far as to not answer flight booking requests (one week or less out from filming). If David couldn't find a local, then Ty might have been drafted. He does have a day job there as well, so he could have been thinking about that, he is after all a very serious and conscientious young man in that regard. And yes if someone isn't there, there would be a hole in the production schedule for the entire week (usually 4 scenes). Add that to the fact that Tyler is 21, human and has a life outside of D&E, one can easily see why he didn't necessarily turn in a "stellar" performance.

For those into the fantasy, please do not read further.....

Of course what we see on film is the 2nd go around for the boys. Generally they do everything prior to filming (except cumming) for the photo shots. That could explain a lot as well.

Thanks for your input and insight. I always look forward to your posts.

 

[elyot1]

Suggestions

Perhaps starting a video with 'inside banter' sets the wrong tone. We want to watch porn not get insite into the studio workings.

Instead of running all three parts of the series in order in one week, perhaps two three part series could be mixed together. Example run Series A 1, then Series B 1, then Series A 2, then Series B 2 etc. Or even make it an intermingling with 3 different 3 part series.

Obviously the people who run this site know what they are doing as it is a very successful business. I'm just suggesting.

 

[amcovtime]

Mikeyank:

Wow. What a great post. I, too, had the idea that maybe Tyler was "filling in" for someone who flaked. It happens. Of the 4 guys that David has accepted from my referrals, only one has actually made it to the Florida and the futon. A couple of them went so far as to not answer flight booking requests (one week or less out from filming). If David couldn't find a local, then Ty might have been drafted. He does have a day job there as well, so he could have been thinking about that, he is after all a very serious and conscientious young man in that regard. And yes if someone isn't there, there would be a hole in the production schedule for the entire week (usually 4 scenes). Add that to the fact that Tyler is 21, human and has a life outside of D&E, one can easily see why he didn't necessarily turn in a "stellar" performance.

For those into the fantasy, please do not read further.....

Of course what we see on film is the 2nd go around for the boys. Generally they do everything prior to filming (except cumming) for the photo shots. That could explain a lot as well.

Thanks for your input and insight. I always look forward to your posts.

Well since we ae guessing about if he was filling in or not, then why put him in at all. IF the guy doesnt want to be there then he shouldnt. And that sounds liek what people are saying. Its not an excuse that you were made to be there. Hell two gus is better than a sorry lame video shoot. But again this is IF.

 

[tampa24]

Instead of running all three parts of the series in order in one week, perhaps two three part series could be mixed together. Example run Series A 1, then Series B 1, then Series A 2, then Series B 2 etc. Or even make it an intermingling with 3 different 3 part series.

Good point Elyot!

I'm definitely all for keeping the videos in order. That doesn't mean however that each series has to be shown consecutively. While many of us in here would agree that we all love a good lasagna....not many of us would want to have it 3 times in one week. If the scenes are interspersed with those of one or two (or more) other series then we get a nice variety.

It doesn't mean that they can't shown in a chronological order so that we can see the progression of the individual models. Just the opposite. And in this way if there are models in upcoming scenes that we like less than others, then we know we will have something new to look forward to very soon. And by the same token with models who we find really attractive...teasing us with some space in between their next scene is not all bad.

 

[Jeffv71]

I think if you love Tyler or hate him, put that aside. The fact he has done enough scene's that he should know exactly what is expected. You can't be warm, into the moment in past scene's and then show up months later and look as board and lifeless. You can now be considered a paid professional, and if you are not into the scene, you need to fake it well as a paid professional.

I love the idea of showing the scene's in the order that they were shot, but agree that maybe we could show 3 sets of scene's together. ie, scene 1 with the couple #1, scene 1 with the couple #2, and scene 1 with the couple #3, or even off set the couples. I think it helps build the anticipation of the members, when we see someone we all love like Jake. Just a thought and suggestion.....

 

[parisnoyd]

Agreed. Also what about MikeR? or even better College Boy Physicals's Ashton? Ashton is so flaky and decadent and funny and he'd take li'l Jake (Tyler is max. 5'9" so Jakey is like maybe 5'6"?) for a wonderful ride. Yulp, yulp he would.

Pornie Shane and Jake would be awesome in a huge anal scene, but there's about 14 inches separating them and it would be difficult to get them in the same frame.

no not those 14 inches you filthy minded bitch...

I adore MikeR, but he doesn't like kissing. Ashton would be a hoot for just the way you described him. I'm sure anything goes with him.

Porn Shane would be fab with Jake. I think Shane would make Jake forget all about his cap. hehe As wantto says, once the guys were 'zontal, the 14" wouldn't be noticable.

Filthy minded bitch? Why you dirty pervy nasty man you! Hey! This is kinda fun!

 

[kac0076]

ok... another lack luster performance by Tyler! Cute kid, but as dull as dishwater! Too many other guys on this site who are far more enthusiastic!

 

[johnuk1986]

Man I think Tyler is getting a hard time of it.... but i think thats cos he has had some bad scenes shown in quick succession. I found this really boring. I think NU is cute n all but not sexy to me. Tyler was yawning through the video. The fucking wasnt hot and Tyler was def a fill in for a no show, Still as someone else has said, one on one would have been hotter than this boring 3 way! (cant believe i just described a 3 way boring!) David I am sorry but i would hold off any Tyler videos for a while cos i think some people, myself included, as starting to get a bit bored of seeing him. Jake is fresh meat and i think this was a very bad pairing again for a newby.. He seemed so much more enthusiastic in his other vid. Him and Tyler never interacted at all in this video and i get the sense they do not like one another...
I have been pretty disappointed with the last several updates.. infact since the Diesal and Chasen videos....

 

[slimvintage]

Tyler's yawning was "nervous yawning" provoked by stress. He got to the futon just in time after complying with his office work, and the relief after the rush released the stress and caused him to yawn repeatedly. I know, because I've done it too, it's a result of multitasking. There's a video of a student show I had to rush through a lot of stuff all morning in order to get to and yeah, the cameragirl gleefully caught me yawning 3 or 4 times as she panned over the audience. Alternatively Tyler was nervous because so much hype had gone down about getting him back, naked and stiff, in front of the camera, and a lot was riding on his re-appearance. Christ do you guys know what that would be like? You'd be nervously yawning, and nervously shitting your tightywhities if you had all that responsibility at 20.

Jake, on the video I saw, on a really nice Samsung screen, albeit not HD, my having downloaded the scene in "High", was seen to hide his lovely stiffy in Nu's lovely ass, pull it out again, and push it back in, lots of times. There have been other examples, as many of us remember, where David allowed a Straightie to simulate fucking in order to save a scene. Maybe some of the footage in this case was non-penetrative thrusting, but Jakey did fuck Nu, go back and look again.

Tyler was in this early HD series of videos because he's the fave Broke Straight Boys, notoriously, famously in demand, being begged for more of ever since he stopped modeling to concentrate on his office and studio jobs. He may have subbed at the last minute, but I don't think so, I think it was because so many of us fickle, assholical idiots wanted desperately to see his beautiful body and adorable face, his testosterone soaked gestures and his amazing techniques, again, and David did what we were pleading for, to see Tyler again. I feel like a criminal, having been one of the most grovelling if raucous voices, for having helped get that amazing kid into a situation in which he has to read all these carping, if understandable, complaints.

This thread has gone on to more amusing subjects, and here I am mulishly insisting on defending a video with Tyler in it. Jesus. It's as if I didn't have a life apart from Tyler fandom.

 

[slimvintage]

I adore MikeR, but he doesn't like kissing. Ashton would be a hoot for just the way you described him. I'm sure anything goes with him.

Porn Shane would be fab with Jake. I think Shane would make Jake forget all about his cap. hehe As wantto says, once the guys were 'zontal, the 14" wouldn't be noticable.

Filthy minded bitch? Why you dirty pervy nasty man you! Hey! This is kinda fun!

Compliments, just empty compliments. Tell me something new, that all the boys don't tell me...

 

[slimvintage]

Perhaps starting a video with 'inside banter' sets the wrong tone. We want to watch porn not get insite into the studio workings.

Instead of running all three parts of the series in order in one week, perhaps two three part series could be mixed together. Example run Series A 1, then Series B 1, then Series A 2, then Series B 2 etc. Or even make it an intermingling with 3 different 3 part series.

Obviously the people who run this site know what they are doing as it is a very successful business. I'm just suggesting.

Brilliant. On the other hand the Jimmie and Diesal series benefited from being run one right after the other.

 

[parisnoyd]

Compliments, just empty compliments. Tell me something new, that all the boys don't tell me...

Not in public! Jebus! That would be like being on the Futon!! I'm far too shy for that! I'll send you a PM.

Ok, carry on with your Tyler lurve.....

 

[tampa24]

Brilliant. On the other hand the Jimmie and Diesal series benefited from being run one right after the other.

Absolutely true Slim! LOL

 

[lights715]

OMFG~! Did you see Nu shake his ass for Jake's cock? And how he kept thrusting backward in rythm with Jake! This pair is pure money! hehe!

 

[balboa]

OMFG~! Did you see Nu shake his ass for Jake's cock? And how he kept thrusting backward in rythm with Jake! This pair is pure money! hehe!

It would be if it didn't look faked.

 

[chase3398]

Seeing that just about everything one could say has been said, I'll just add that I think Jake and Preston or Jimmy would make for a great show. Jake is a really hot young guy who has yet to be able to let it loose. In this vid he seemed to be resigned to the situation but it just felt, to me, that he has all this energy inside that he is not able to release. He's definitely a keeper. He's adorable with a great body and one of the nicest cocks I've ever seen. Nu is always up for whatever he's asked to do and is consistent as can be in his performances. I'm sorry to say that Tyler fell short again. In the second vid in this series, I thought he had dug a little deeper but I did not see any of that in this scene. When the lights go on and the action starts, that's when you dig down really deep at times to make the performance work for the audience.

 

[mactee]

To Tell The Truth!

In this shoot, and the other 2 in HD, he's had to sit there on the futon knowing that the whole thing is total bullshit: the biographies, the str8ness, the vast sums the Brokies are supposedly salting away for their educations, it's all a carefully crafted charade to comply with the mission statement of one of the cleverest gay porn websites in the business. Tyler and I (haha, I don't know zip for sure, just guessin') know that he's sitting there having to play along with the paradigm, knowing what's really going down. I can see it in his face. I love the paradigm and enjoy watching it unroll 3 times a week. For Tyler it's gotta be another story altogether. But that's great too. I really enjoy seeing how he reacts to his circumstances.

Slim my friend, I, as usual read over your post rather quickly along with all the others and then I returned to it for another perusal. There was something about it that was interesting to me but I couldn’t put my finger on it. Came back later tonight and re-read it a couple more times and I guess it finally sunk in what I understood you were saying and what as a newbie I did not necessarily want to believe. (I buy vitamins on line this way.)

I guess you are saying what probably everyone else knows, that what I’ve bought into with my monthly subscription is a total sham, and this paradigm is OK because it is ALL TOTAL FANTACY and I should have known that from the gitgo. Am I to take this then to mean that while this forum is a lot of fun and its enjoyable getting to meet some very interesting people and hopefully developing some friendship on line, it too is basically meaningless as far as having any effect on what we see or do not see in all theses shoots? It is just a part of a brilliant interactive porn site?

I really enjoy yours and Mike’s responses to these threads and the depth of your thinking, so I’m just asking for your opinion, please help me out. Thanks my brother, hope you don’t mind me calling you that, for your reply.

 

[angelone]

I suppose that once you lost the elasticity of a virgin ass fucking just becomes a mundane thing. I think this is the case with Nu because from the video he just lays there expressionless taking whatever Tyler gives him. Jake seems to be the only one showing any espirit de corps - that a boy, Jake.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim my friend, I, as usual read over your post rather quickly along with all the others and then I returned to it for another perusal. There was something about it that was interesting to me but I couldn’t put my finger on it. Came back later tonight and re-read it a couple more times and I guess it finally sunk in what I understood you were saying and what as a newbie I did not necessarily want to believe. (I buy vitamins on line this way.)

I guess you are saying what probably everyone else knows, that what I’ve bought into with my monthly subscription is a total sham, and this paradigm is OK because it is ALL TOTAL FANTACY and I should have known that from the gitgo. Am I to take this then to mean that while this forum is a lot of fun and its enjoyable getting to meet some very interesting people and hopefully developing some friendship on line, it too is basically meaningless as far as having any effect on what we see or do not see in all theses shoots? It is just a part of a brilliant interactive porn site?

I really enjoy yours and Mike’s responses to these threads and the depth of your thinking, so I’m just asking for your opinion, please help me out. Thanks my brother, hope you don’t mind me calling you that, for your reply.

Bro McTee,

You'd better read David on this subject. He's been very very up front about the degree of reality the product actually attains by the time it's delivered. He started out, in his first posts on the forum, saying exactly what you've just said, effectively that everyone should chill, that this is just porn, to shut up and enjoy the fantasy and not hold it to the same standards you'd hold proven, true, historical events. Then he started sharing a bit more. The boys aren't who they say they are, but some of their stories are more or less true. A lot of them are straight, but the real, dyed in the wool straighties don't get very far because they don't like it once they've tried it. Some guys say they're straight but aren't, some find they like sex with guys and turn. More and more in the episodes these quite believable stories come out in the banter.

There's one detail that, despite mikeyank's and my occasional query, Broke Straight Boys has never addressed: whether what the boys make for the shoot squares with the agreed amount mentioned in the videos or if the sometimes big bucks are part of the fantasy. From some of the murmured replies Dave has occasionally got from the models, sotto voce, it seems to me that the sums thrown around might not be the real ones. I for one think it would be hot as hell if the guys were getting little more than their flights and meals paid for, and were doing this because they wanted to find out something about themselves, but maybe that's a different website and not Broke Straight Boys

I know from personal experience that we are very much listened to, and that the feedback does sometimes have a marked effect on the product. I can't believe that David doesn't think that the forum is sort of a pain in the ass in many ways. But a relationship of trust on both sides has grown up over time, and real affection reigns in some quarters. That doesn't take away the fact that we, as the punters, are a bunch of pervy fetishists who are in principle here because we like to see mulish straighties coerced, out of pecuniary crises in their lives, to do something repugnant to them, and that they all really hate the fucking fag shit they're made to do with each other. The vibe has evolved since the forum went up however and David discusses openly how the boys have come on since joining the stable. He may have helped scores of curious boys get some kind of closure on their search for sexual identity for all I know. It often sounds like that in the banter.

Here's what I think: Broke Straight Boys isn't a reality show. But it would be a huge mistake to dismiss it as a hoax since it's actually a very canny mixture of the two. And while there is a heap of cynicism behind some of the fantasy, there's a genuine desire to make a great product as well. I just think that Tyler, young as he is, seeing the whole thing from behind the camera, in the office, day in and day out, has felt uncomfortable returning to his original role of Broke Straight Boys posterboy hottie, the all time fave of the membership. The two roles require opposing attitudes and he's too rigorous intellectually to be comfortable purveying the charade.