The Lucas & Mike thingy

[mikeyank]

Then why don't you join the Ben Ben club then....

As I said in my previous post Jon, I totally agree with the points Ms. K made in her post, but when we disagree that doesn't necessitate putting each other on "ignore".

It seems rather pointless and silly for us long time forumites to fight among ourselves over the models. We can agree or disagree but remain friends.

After all, the models are here to get paid, and we are here for entertainment. I would hope we can all remain friends and keep things in perspective, and continue to enjoy this site and share this forum as friends.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Then why don't you join the Ben Ben club then....

As I said in my previous post Jon, I totally agree with the points Ms. K made in her post, but when we disagree that doesn't necessitate putting each other on "ignore".

It seems rather pointless and silly for us long time forumites to fight among ourselves over the models. We can agree or disagree but remain friends.

After all, the models are here to get paid, and we are here for entertainment. I would hope we can all remain friends and keep things in perspective, and continue to enjoy this site and share this forum as friends.

Thanks, Mikey.

What a way to start my morning. I think I will go back to bed, and see if I getting up on the other side will change the outlook. Maybe an AYDEN scene will help.......

 

[mikeyank]

Thanks, Mikey.

What a way to start my morning. I think I will go back to bed, and see if I getting up on the other side will change the outlook. Maybe an AYDEN scene will help.......

AYDEN always helps put us in a better mood.

 

[Lucas.Weston]

The person you seen In the BTS and on the forums is me, Ask the questions you need to ask so I can give you the answers I have. Like I said The acting is a little over the top, but you have to realize I never looked at gay porn or even knew about this site until a week or two before my shoot. It was my understanding that your average Broke Straight Boys viewer wanted to see STRAIGHT be gay for cash, I thought that protesting more would add to the experience for the viewer. I will approach filming with a different perspective from now on that is a promise!

 

[joninliverton]

And they wonder why most models stay clear of the forum....

Jon, I have to agree with Ms. K that you are very inconsistent and selective in which models you take shots at, with innuendos, accusations, and personal attacks and which models you defend.

You tell Lucas that he has a lot of guts to face "the Broke Straight Boys forum mafia", and that you don't blame models who stop posting because the more they reveal about themselves, the more you are open to accusations, but you are guilty of doing exactly that with Blake, by saying he posts here only for the cash, while his many fans and admirers here appreciate his revealing looks into his real life, his experiences and his home made youtube videos of him in his home and out and about with his friends. You also took several shots at him with sarcastic comments that he is not straight. (Again I question who actually performs here with skill and passion who is totally straight. If you want truly straight guys on this site, you will get a repeat of the "Desperate Mike" scenario).

And as Ms. K pointed out you made some remarks about Ayden's acne marks, (which I think do not detract one iota from his sexiness), and you have also criticized his perceived lack of passion and chemistry with his fellow models in his scenes.

Yet when other's comment that Lucas has been used too often too soon, or that he is inconsistent in what he says in his scenes, in his BTS and his posts, or that his body does not meet the usual standards of gay porn models on this site and elsewhere, you call us the forum mafia or that "we" are chasing the models away from posting.

Don't you see that you are doing the exact same thing with some models that you accuse others of us are doing with Lucas???

My remarks about Ayden were one off both referring to acne and lack of chemistry. However you guys are line a pack of wolves regarding Lucas. Just as u were at spencer The Blake Bennett situation is exactly the same but again the Blake Bennett fan club bit like a pack of wolves. I anticipate you will all be changing your stance in regarding in a few episodes time. Watch this space !!!

 

[rrhill]

Lucas you are a nice guy. Don't worry, just be yourself... that's all we ever wanted.

 

[Milla79]

The person you seen In the BTS and on the forums is me, Ask the questions you need to ask so I can give you the answers I have. Like I said The acting is a little over the top, but you have to realize I never looked at gay porn or even knew about this site until a week or two before my shoot. It was my understanding that your average Broke Straight Boys viewer wanted to see STRAIGHT be gay for cash, I thought that protesting more would add to the experience for the viewer. I will approach filming with a different perspective from now on that is a promise!

Well, Lucas, as a new member who has yet to see any of your videos, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. I won't judge you based on your past performances but based on your future ones.
I deliberately chose not to watch the controversial scenes.
Just be yourself and won't disappoint us in your future scenes.

Milla, new straight woman on the site

 

[BenBen]

I feel bad that this has gotten a little out of control, I don't hate Lucas, he is a handsome guy and like I said about his solo performance he does have an air of sexiness about him. I was offended by some comments that were made in this scene and I felt they reflected poorly on Lucas. I realize this is all new to Lucas, and we often make mistakes in new situations. I have all kinds of thoughts and ideas of how things could have gone differently and about the mistakes I feel Clay made in the situation. It's easy to sit back after the act and make comments and say would have would have could have, hind sight it 20/20 right. The water has gone under the bridge. If Lucas was acting when he said what I perceived as being negatives and he was just trying to make it more real I'd say that didn't work for me. I think if you want to make things real or authentic then you should just be yourself and not act. Now I'm not absolutely sure we didn't see the real Lucas in this video, We have seen scenes like this in the past and it makes me wonder if a model has been coached to amp up the straight behavior and make us believe that they really hate the idea of doing this and only do it for the money. I'm not sure if I will be a Lucas fan but I don't hate him and I do wish the best for him.

 

[mikeyank]

My remarks about Ayden were one off both referring to acne and lack of chemistry. However you guys are line a pack of wolves regarding Lucas. Just as u were at spencer The Blake Bennett situation is exactly the same but again the Blake Bennett fan club bit like a pack of wolves. I anticipate you will all be changing your stance in regarding in a few episodes time. Watch this space !!!

Jon, as an intelligent young man, I am surprised that you do not see the inconsistencies in your argument. You criticized Ayden's acne, and said he has a lack of chemistry and that is okay. I and other's commented on Lucas's lack of a toned body as most gay porn model's have, and his negative attitude during some of his scenes and we are "a pack of wolves".

I don't recall if Spencer had posted on the forum or not, but many of the more sensitive forumites were offended by his perceived homophobia in his early scenes, much as they criticized Jimmy and Jamie for the same thing. But he later "did it all" including getting fucked, so there went that argument. So where is the correlation between the current situation and Spencer?

And what do you mean that the "Blake Bennett situation is exactly the same"? The same as what?

And you also call the "Blake Bennett fan club" a pack of wolves too. And you say that you have some inside information that the Blake Bennett fan club will be changing our stance in a few episodes time. That is rather cryptic.

But how can the folks who criticized Lucas and the folks who support Blake both be a "pack of wolves"? I am very confused as how supporters of a model or detractors of another can both be a "pack of wolves".

 

[joninliverton]

Jon, as an intelligent young man, I am surprised that you do not see the inconsistencies in your argument. You criticized Ayden's acne, and said he has a lack of chemistry and that is okay. I and other's commented on Lucas's lack of a toned body as most gay porn model's have, and his negative attitude during some of his scenes and we are "a pack of wolves".

I don't recall if Spencer had posted on the forum or not, but many of the more sensitive forumites were offended by his perceived homophobia in his early scenes, much as they criticized Jimmy and Jamie for the same thing. But he later "did it all" including getting fucked, so there went that argument. So where is the correlation between the current situation and Spencer?

And what do you mean that the "Blake Bennett situation is exactly the same"? The same as what?

And you also call the "Blake Bennett fan club" a pack of wolves too. And you say that you have some inside information that the Blake Bennett fan club will be changing our stance in a few episodes time. That is rather cryptic.

But how can the folks who criticized Lucas and the folks who support Blake both be a "pack of wolves"? I am very confused as how supporters of a model or detractors of another can both be a "pack of wolves".

Right here goes.

Ayden - Yes I made a comment about his acne and also a comment about his lack of chemistry, but I did not go on about it for N amount of pages and threads as you guys and girls have done for Lucas.

Blake - I had issues with him and he apologised. I also stated that I though he was gay and I still stand by that thought - he has not denied it incidentally. I also stated that I didn't think it was a big issue for anyone on a gay forum to assume that a model is straight, gay or bisexual. Only members of this site are allowed to see what is on this forum - so if you pay you get to see. It's not as if the homophobia brigade are going to listen and believe everything I say and go to hunt Blake down with the many arsenal of weapons that are easy to obtain over there.

People have commented on other models in the past and this has been accepted. However, as soon as anyone mentions anything slightly derogatory about yours and Ms Ks darlings Blake and Ayden then we get hounded.

If you go back historically there have been lots of assumptions on models' true sexuality and I'm sure if I had as much time as certain people have on this forum, I could probably dig the dirt too. So please do not try and make a mountain out of a molehill by indicating that I am the first forumite to comment on a model's sexuality. I am not...

 

[tampa24]

The person you seen In the BTS and on the forums is me, Ask the questions you need to ask so I can give you the answers I have. Like I said The acting is a little over the top, but you have to realize I never looked at gay porn or even knew about this site until a week or two before my shoot. It was my understanding that your average Broke Straight Boys viewer wanted to see STRAIGHT be gay for cash, I thought that protesting more would add to the experience for the viewer. I will approach filming with a different perspective from now on that is a promise!

Thank you Lucas for clarifying what part of acting in the scenes was for show. So it was the protestations about doing the gay sex acts that were gratuitously added because you thought they would enhance the experience for viewers. I'm not going to criticize you for that. You thought you were giving those in the audience what they wanted. Fair enough. Just please be the real you going forward. I think you'll pleasantly surprised that many of us do and will like the real you.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Right here goes.

Ayden - Yes I made a comment about his acne and also a comment about his lack of chemistry, but I did not go on about it for N amount of pages and threads as you guys and girls have done for Lucas.

Blake - I had issues with him and he apologised. I also stated that I though he was gay and I still stand by that thought - he has not denied it incidentally. I also stated that I didn't think it was a big issue for anyone on a gay forum to assume that a model is straight, gay or bisexual. Only members of this site are allowed to see what is on this forum - so if you pay you get to see. It's not as if the homophobia brigade are going to listen and believe everything I say and go to hunt Blake down with the many arsenal of weapons that are easy to obtain over there.

People have commented on other models in the past and this has been accepted. However, as soon as anyone mentions anything slightly derogatory about yours and Ms Ks darlings Blake and Ayden then we get hounded.

If you go back historically there have been lots of assumptions on models' true sexuality and I'm sure if I had as much time as certain people have on this forum, I could probably dig the dirt too. So please do not try and make a mountain out of a molehill by indicating that I am the first forumite to comment on a model's sexuality. I am not...

Jon,

I am not today, or any other day, hounding you for saying negative things about Blake or Ayden. I don't give a care what you think of Blake or Ayden, or any other model. What I said was in defense of members that you were hounding, for not liking Lucas. You said members were being cruel. You said members were driving models away by being mean to them. So I said, "Jon was mean to Ayden." Simply pointing out, that you yourself have done what you complain that others are doing. I was defending members, not models.


While we are talking about models....... Ayden did not stop posting because someone said they were turned off by his acne, or someone said he had no chemistry with his partner, or someone said that he was not straight. Ayden came on the forum willing to take our questions ABOUT HIM, and let us get to know HIM. Ayden stopped coming on the forum because members kept asking him for "insider" information. They wanted to know who he was filming with and what they were doing. They wanted information about scenes, models, and Broke Straight Boys Ayden repeatedly said he could not, and would not give out that information. He went as far as to say that he was told he was not allowed to give out that information, and yet people kept asking. So Ayden quit talking.......


Now lets talk about Lucas. I don't care if Lucas is a bad actor. I don't care if Lucas has belly flab. I don't care if his stories match. I just don't care about any of that. But, people that do, have that right.

What I do care about is Broke Straight Boys

Since Lucas started, and went on his Skyping, PMing, and emailing members binge.....members have been posting about the "insider" information that they have. The first BB scenes, information about Blake that will change his fans minds about him, etc. This all has me upset. The fact that he would go against Broke Straight Boys policy, possibly causing trouble for Broke Straight Boys, possibly putting other models or staffs privacy and confidentiality in danger, infuriates me. Everyone but Mark uses fake names and stories for a reason. This is an industry of confidentiality. The fact that he could be taken on tour, and put the other guys at risk like that, scares the crap out of me.

I am now open like a book, and I am done. No one has to agree with me, or like what I said. It is simply my truth. It is out there, and now I am moving on.

 

[mikeyank]

I have no way of knowing if Ms. K is correct as to where the leaks are coming from, but several forumites do seem to have had information before anything was said by management. I would think that only the staff and the models know what goes on during the filming of scenes, but a member told us that he heard about the bareback scenes coming a few weeks in advance, and now Jon is telling us that an upcmning Blake episode will make us change our "stance" about him, so I have to wonder too, how the members are getting this inside info.

 

[AtlantaGuy]

I am sorry to add my voice to this but OH MY GOD that scene was a buzz kill. Please tell me i am not paying money on a porn site to hear models bitching and moaning about it and I am sorry but I do not believe a word of the farm story. This is ridiculous. BTW I hated the Jimmy scenes and have decided I have seen enough of that bull shit. As other people have stated I do not care about the models sexuality. I would like to be entertained and maybe get a little buzz from this site. Shakespeare said it "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" If you like sucking dick and getting fucked shut up and enjoy it. If you do not, please find another profession.

Jimmy was a first class jerk and I hope to never see the likes of him again. What I loved was when he was doing Bobby who said that it was feeling good. Jimmy's reply: "It's not supposed to feel good." I nearly threw up I was laughing so hard at him. What a cluless idiot he was. As for Lucas, give him a chance to redeem himself; he has potential. He just needs to quit the staged whining. And as for Mike: Bye, Bye

 

[Milla79]

Jon,

I am not today, or any other day, hounding you for saying negative things about Blake or Ayden. I don't give a care what you think of Blake or Ayden, or any other model. What I said was in defense of members that you were hounding, for not liking Lucas. You said members were being cruel. You said members were driving models away by being mean to them. So I said, "Jon was mean to Ayden." Simply pointing out, that you yourself have done what you complain that others are doing. I was defending members, not models.


While we are talking about models....... Ayden did not stop posting because someone said they were turned off by his acne, or someone said he had no chemistry with his partner, or someone said that he was not straight. Ayden came on the forum willing to take our questions ABOUT HIM, and let us get to know HIM. Ayden stopped coming on the forum because members kept asking him for "insider" information. They wanted to know who he was filming with and what they were doing. They wanted information about scenes, models, and Broke Straight Boys Ayden repeatedly said he could not, and would not give out that information. He went as far as to say that he was told he was not allowed to give out that information, and yet people kept asking. So Ayden quit talking.......


Now lets talk about Lucas. I don't care if Lucas is a bad actor. I don't care if Lucas has belly flab. I don't care if his stories match. I just don't care about any of that. But, people that do, have that right.

What I do care about is Broke Straight Boys

Since Lucas started, and went on his Skyping, PMing, and emailing members binge.....members have been posting about the "insider" information that they have. The first BB scenes, information about Blake that will change his fans minds about him, etc. This all has me upset. The fact that he would go against Broke Straight Boys policy, possibly causing trouble for Broke Straight Boys, possibly putting other models or staffs privacy and confidentiality in danger, infuriates me. Everyone but Mark uses fake names and stories for a reason. This is an industry of confidentiality. The fact that he could be taken on tour, and put the other guys at risk like that, scares the crap out of me.

I am now open like a book, and I am done. No one has to agree with me, or like what I said. It is simply my truth. It is out there, and now I am moving on.

I totally agree with you Ms. K. Things like personal infos about the models (real names...) should never be disclosed and I was shocked to find out that someone, supposedly Lucas, put the models at risk by revealing such private information.

 

[Milla79]

I totally agree with you Ms. K. Things like personal infos about the models (real names...) should never be disclosed and I was shocked to find out that someone, supposedly Lucas, put the models at risk by revealing such private information.

Just wanted to add that I'm not sure, of course that Lucas did say anything, but it is clear to me, that a model or someone working close to them did say things they shouldn't have and that's regretful.
Like I said before, I'm giving Lucas a fair chance to redeem himself following his BTS which seemed quite honest.

 

[joninliverton]

I totally agree with you Ms. K. Things like personal infos about the models (real names...) should never be disclosed and I was shocked to find out that someone, supposedly Lucas, put the models at risk by revealing such private information.

Interesting to see you choose to reply to Ms K, 8 days after her post. Are you trying to rile things up again. Who mentioned real names btw and where.

 

[Milla79]

Interesting to see you choose to reply to Ms K, 8 days after her post. Are you trying to rile things up again. Who mentioned real names btw and where.

It showed as new to me since someone posted on it today.
I replied to the post I felt reflected my opinions which is the one of Ms K. If it had been someone else's, I would have replied to theirs.
Nobody told me anything. I just read what members said before and NO I do not want to rile things up, in any way.

 

[joninliverton]

It showed as new to me since someone posted on it today.
I replied to the post I felt reflected my opinions which is the one of Ms K. If it had been someone else's, I would have replied to theirs.
Nobody told me anything. I just read what members said before and NO I do not want to rile things up, in any way.

As far as I am aware, no one has revealed the real names, addresses or bank account numbers of models or members. My name is Santa, I live in Lapland and my bank account nr is 2512xxxx

 

[Milla79]

As far as I am aware, no one has revealed the real names, addresses or bank account numbers of models or members. My name is Santa, I live in Lapland and my bank account nr is 2512xxxx

Haha... I'm Angelina Jolie and I'm married to Brad Pitt