Psssst !

[mikeyank]

Question... I mean no ill will or animosity... but what was the purpose of bumping this? No apology should be needed as it seems the decision was a recent one. I see no use in digging up this dead dog to beat it again. $0.02

I thought it was interesting that I found this thread by accident today, and had actually forgotten the gist of it, only remembering that it was controversial. Then when I re-read it today, it was like a "holy shit" minute, and I thought that what seemed so outlandish and far fetched in July became reality in November.

And remember Zyl, that David had always told us that there was approximately six months lag time between his shooting a scene, and Mark uploading it. So apparently David stopping making new scenes, over six months ago, perhaps last April or May. The current releases are not in high definition, so my assumption is that we saw all of David's new work, and these are the "left overs" that we are watching now.

I found it interesting and thought it was worth sharing my observation with forum. It's not like there's a lot of exciting new stuff going on here, anyway.

 

[aquarius]

Rapper had no third eye - but I put on a deerslayer cap, did some prowling through the member records, noticed some interesting cross-matches and, being familiar with the timeline, might hazard a guess that party A, who has a more than passing interest in party B, might well have passed on plans to party B who passed said plans on to party C from whom Party D and Rapper learned either simultaneously or consecutively. Party B is, however, the enigma. He owed great loyalty to party A but had friends elsewhere. Did his sudden disappearance in July preclude or result from the spill? Why did no one else in party C's entourage get the word? Did the entire debacle cause my sudden aversion to alphabet soup? We'll only know when the smoke clears, the ash settles, and the lava hardens.

 

[zyl84]

Rapper had no third eye - but I put on a deerslayer cap, did some prowling through the member records, noticed some interesting cross-matches and, being familiar with the timeline, might hazard a guess that party A, who has a more than passing interest in party B, might well have passed on plans to party B who passed said plans on to party C from whom Party D and Rapper learned either simultaneously or consecutively. Party B is, however, the enigma. He owed great loyalty to party A but had friends elsewhere. Did his sudden disappearance in July preclude or result from the spill? Why did no one else in party C's entourage get the word? Did the entire debacle cause my sudden aversion to alphabet soup? We'll only know when the smoke clears, the ash settles, and the lava hardens.

I'll just sit here in my tinfoil hat in my padded room as to not get hurt. C'ya when its over!

 

[joninliverton]

Question... I mean no ill will or animosity... but what was the purpose of bumping this? No apology should be needed as it seems the decision was a recent one. I see no use in digging up this dead dog to beat it again. $0.02

Agree there Z. There has been a lot of bumping up old threads of late - e.g the Dustin thread on the other side. However, I believe sometimes old threads are best left to the cobwebs, it's not as if there isn't much else to chat about.

 

[aquarius]

Question... I mean no ill will or animosity... but what was the purpose of bumping this? No apology should be needed as it seems the decision was a recent one. I see no use in digging up this dead dog to beat it again. $0.02

Perhaps the sound of beating was merely the refracted sound of your own heart caught in the layers of tinfoil over your head. I'm not sure what recent means but before the end of July Blu's camera was already plumbing the depths of hotel pools with newbie pickups - the same month in which this thread came to life. Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it. Do you want interest with the return of your two cents?

 

[joninliverton]

Perhaps the sound of beating was merely the refracted sound of your own heart caught in the layers of tinfoil over your head. I'm not sure what recent means but before the end of July Blu's camera was already plumbing the depths of hotel pools with newbie pickups - the same month in which this thread came to life. Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it. Do you want interest with the return of your two cents?

Unfortunately not everyone has the time to study and disect each post. It's also ok to gloat after the event and say I told you so but is that going to make me feel better or worse - nope. The information at the start of this thread could have been obtained from any source or pure guesswork, which I suspect it was. But at the end of the day it matters not because some will decide to give the new setup a go and some will possibly follow David on his site. Those who are rich enough may subscribe to both and other sites, again it matters not.

I shall give the new Broke Straight Boys a go but if I don't like I will move on. There are thousands of sites out there.

 

[zyl84]

Perhaps the sound of beating was merely the refracted sound of your own heart caught in the layers of tinfoil over your head. I'm not sure what recent means but before the end of July Blu's camera was already plumbing the depths of hotel pools with newbie pickups - the same month in which this thread came to life. Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it. Do you want interest with the return of your two cents?

Sorry aquarius... I don't dedicate my life to Broke Straight Boys and it's history as you apparently do. I guess I failed the subject of Obsessive Porn Forum History 1202.

 

[aquarius]

No, but you get an A plus in telling others how to use it. Mike brought this thread forward for a specific purpose. He stated that purpose. It was interesting. I tried to make a joke about it. You tried to make a joke about me. I tried to explain. You tried to make another joke about me. Enough, I'm exhausted. Swimming in the shallow end of the pool does that to me.

Thank you, Mike. It was intersting to go back over that article. It would certainly be interesting to hear Rapper's story unclutterred with all the arguments. There are so many major shifts in the last twelve months that point in the direction of the big change. It makes one wonder how many were clues and how many were merely stepping stones. I can't help but feel the falure of BCB to take off and the turnover of the 'road crew' had something to do with it. And, let's face it, somebody was trying to prove something with the pool and the hotel update. I can almost hear Warner Oland, "Very interesting."

 

[mikeyank]

Thank you, Mike. It was intersting to go back over that article. It would certainly be interesting to hear Rapper's story unclutterred with all the arguments. There are so many major shifts in the last twelve months that point in the direction of the big change. It makes one wonder how many were clues and how many were merely stepping stones. I can't help but feel the falure of BCB to take off and the turnover of the 'road crew' had something to do with it. And, let's face it, somebody was trying to prove something with the pool and the hotel update. I can almost hear Warner Oland, "Very interesting."

Thank you Rifle for recognizing my purpose in bringing this thread forward. And in your previous post you used the phrase that was on my mind, regarding those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

I was actually surprised with both Zyl's and Jon's reaction to my commenting yesterday on the original post from July. All four of us, (myself, Rifle, Jon and Zyl) are obviously interested enough in this site and forum to be frequent contributors to it, and I thought this was a fascinating exchange between Rapper, David, Mark, and the members, in light of recent revelations about the future of Broke Straight Boys

As a member and fan of this site, I found this a worthwhile exercise, to review what the "Pssst" thread means today. Again, as fans of Broke Straight Boys, I thought this was an appropriate use of the forum, where we discuss Broke Straight Boys, to broach the subject. I'm certainly not trying to dredge up any old ill will or bad blood, just trying to put a discussion from July into the context of today.

 

[zyl84]

Thank you Rifle for recognizing my purpose in bringing this thread forward. And in your previous post you used the phrase that was on my mind, regarding those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

I was actually surprised with both Zyl's and Jon's reaction to my commenting yesterday on the original post from July. All four of us, (myself, Rifle, Jon and Zyl) are obviously interested enough in this site and forum to be frequent contributors to it, and I thought this was a fascinating exchange between Rapper, David, Mark, and the members, in light of recent revelations about the future of Broke Straight Boys

As a member and fan of this site, I found this a worthwhile exercise, to review what the "Pssst" thread means today. Again, as fans of Broke Straight Boys, I thought this was an appropriate use of the forum, where we discuss Broke Straight Boys, to broach the subject. I'm certainly not trying to dredge up any old ill will or bad blood, just trying to put a discussion from July into the context of today.

I am interested enough to come and contribute. I'm not interested enough to fawn over conspiracy theories and "love" models the way in which some members claim they actually care about them personally (don't take that as me saying you directly, I'm speaking in generalities). I also don't care to drag up old, soured discussions despite their relevance to what actually happened.

This site discusses Broke Straight Boys.. not the decisions the management takes up. They manage this site, we are here to enjoy it. As you said, you found it worthwhile and your expectation that both Jon and myself would find it worthwhile is the problem. You're expectation and reality don't match up.

If my students wanted to bring up a heated discussion from September in an attempt to make it relate to my lecture today I would probably have the same thought. Why bring it up now? It's dead in the water and contains no relevance. Rapper was probably a disgruntled fired Broke Straight Boys model who knew the end was coming and wanted to yell fire before the match hit the ground.

 

[aquarius]

A lot of what Broke Straight Boys will become is based on what it has been. I know that sounds a little Yodaish, but since we really have no idea of where it's going - just someplace different, what does it hurt to theorize. We're told 'new' this and 'new' that - but, my god, two Ken dolls in a sleeping bag would be 'new.' It's not much to hold a group together through a six month transition. I appreciate the opportunity to have something to talk about besides 'wouldn't it be great to bring x back and couple him with z' or 'is y gay' or 'does Tyler have a secret love.' (Well, last year the first Christmas gifts he bought were for David and Eddie and he bought them at the TJ Maxx Home Goods Store.)

As to my students bringing up something from a previous lecture - I'm thrilled - that means I have achieved relevance and on top of it continuity and, by golly, it means they're tying things together and getting the big picture; they've stopped existing in the present and started coupling it with the past to achieve some semblance of what the future might be like. I think it's called living. Oh, god, I have to shut up now. I just skinned my nose on the bottom of the pool. Damn!

 

[mikeyank]

Rifle. As the Moody Blues, once sang, "Isn't Life Strange". You and I appear to be closely aligned on the transitional period between the two studios producing scenes and product. They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.

If we are true fans of Broke Straight Boys, and if the currently released scenes are not generating any lively discussion on the forum, then why shouldn't we talk about the changes coming, and what has passed. If we are any kind of community, the immanent changes coming is the only topic of real interest involving the site today.

 

[aquarius]

I think the even stranger thing is that when one of these (oh, I hate to use the word) 'serious' discussions comes along, those who have no interest in it feel obligated to tell you so and thereby frighten away those who might. It's somewhat akin to picking up a magazine in a Dentist's office and punching holes in all the pictures and articles that don't appeal to you. I suppose, though, one shouldn't be surprised. It is a porn site and no matter how deeply you are involved in your fantasy, someone wants to burst your bubble and tell you the truth. And, I just made myself feel so goddam guilty - because I have done that. God help me if I ever do it again! Wow, I'm my own yenta!

Maybe it's the writer in me, but the little insignificant questions keep popping up. Like, if money is always involved, why the sex in the hotel room orgy - too contrived and too well staged to be an 'accident?' What happened to make Logan disappear so abruptly - were requests made he didn't want to follow through with? Where did Jace and the old crew go so early in the summer? How much of MikeR's banishment was caused by his ruckus in the Orlando club? There must be a connecting thread. If you think of one, let me know. I must now go and listen to five choruses of "Matchmaker, Matchmaker" from Fiddler on the Roof as pennance for past sins.

 

[joninliverton]

If you get a bad meal in a restaurant, then you discuss it then with the manager so he can do something about it. You don't wait until an article about the same restaurant comes out about 6 months later and then chirp in with your 2 cents worth. This isn't just getting at this thread Mike it's getting at a lot recently where members are bringing up old dirt - as if to stir things up. If the so called members would for example start a brand new thread then I would accept that, but they are clever enough to dig through the old thread archives (not easy and quick), decide which will cause some controversy and bump it up. That's more that what I'm getting to, but this thread does fit the bill.

 

[zyl84]

aquarius, I guess our teaching styles differ. You passed over a vital descriptive word: heated. What I teach can spur on quite the controversy and I can take it anywhere I choose to. If my students brought up abortion or Lindsay Lohan when I'm discussing existentialism, it is nothing more than an attempt to stir the pot when it had no relevance to my discussion. That's just drama. It is equivalent to what is being done here. Stirring up discussion to fuel your own need and desire to tout and pound your chest about being an insider or knowing what someone else didn't back in July.

 

[aquarius]

I'm afraid your teaching has no style if you think the magic word 'heated' means all that you claim it to. Now get the words out of your mind and on to the paper before you proclaim what you meant to say as what you said.

We are not stirring any pot. We are not trying to create any controversy. As far as I can tell there's nobody arguing here, nobody screaming, nobody pulling any teeth or weeping or wailing, except two people who don't have anything better to do than to fuel their own need to dictate what will be talked about and what won't. Now go back to the other threads and do your worst. You job here is done. You've made your point.

And, in my most delicate phrasing - take abortion, Lindsey, and your pot with you. My students have frequent heated discussions on existentialism and frequently carry those discussions over days and weeks. It's what I think is called the Socratic method. I think the key word vital to this conversation is 'my' - perhaps you'd succeed in the classroom to a greater level if you stuck to the lesson and spent less time on 'my discussion.'

Now you go ahead and say whatever you have to to feel the stirrings from the depth of your intellect. I promise you you won't drown. I'm not going to continue a fight with you over something as silly as what people have the right to discuss on this forum.

Jon, I'm sorry we disagree on this. I know we have on this same issue in the past. Sometimes you are right - but in this case, I don't think anybody's trying to open an old wound. I think all the wounded were buried long ago. I think Mike was just saying this happened only four months ago - maybe those who are interested would like to look at it again. If what you're wanting is for there to be no more aguments about the transition, then you're going to have to stop all discussion about the older models - because in every one of those is a seed for the same dispute.

PS. While I'm thinking of it, can you give us some heads up on the legalized marriage movement in UK. Ours seems to be at a temporary standstill while waiting on the courts. Yours seems to be heating up again.

 

[SGVBOB]

okay, all you dramaprincesses, and dramaqueens.....this site is NOT called "Gays of Our Lives", so how about we QUIT the UNATTRACTIVE 'wannabe' gay soap opera trash talk?

 

[zyl84]

Oh my, I'm quivering in my educates boots. I'll buy you a bigger spoon, because as you can see NO ONE other than mikeyank and yourself give a flying broomstick about this drama he chose to unearth. My classroom moves along well. I don't have the luxury of using the aquariusocratic method in my discussions. We discuss it and move on. We don't dwell and cease learning and unable to move beyond certain topics. Drown away, I'm through addressing you here or any other thread. Your complete lack of simple comprehension makes me feel bad for your students. They deserve a refund.