Oliver Saxon debuts

[Buckeye1]

Well, I guess I'm back. I can't resist the urge to throw in my 2 cents.

Love him or hate him, Oliver is never less than 100% himself. A teenage college student looking for ways to earn money. He's not a bad kid, but he has been a bit demonized for wearing his heart on his sleeve and like every kid everywhere, unable to shut up and keep his own counsel when he most needs to.

So he isn't your cup of tea, or your panties are still in a bunch because he called some people old farts, etc. Don't watch his scenes. I hope Mark and Sha did ban him from these forums, for his sake not yours. I'm 51, with 30+years on him and would be hard pressed to contain myself if I had to read some of the vitriol spewed Oliver's way.

As for his on-line "begging", I call bullshit. He's not doing anything different than a lot of the porn boys are doing, and at least they are dealing with adults who presumably are capable of making informed, if a bit skewed, decisions.

If you want to ride your moral high horse and wave your flag of disgust, go check out a few of the youtubers who post regular mail vlogs of themselves opening packages worth hundreds and thousands of dollars. Start with Matthew Lush who this past Thursday started his monthly mail vlog by opening a letter that contained a Disney Store gift card worth $500. And that was just the start of his hour long video. Search back a couple of Christmas videos and watch him and a friend open Apple watches, I-Pads and much more in a TWO part vlog. Matthew is 28 and his core audience are 13-18 year old kids who send him pictures and candy and want to be just like him. Aside from the kids he appears to have a group of hard core older fans (25-35 yr old women, and older men) who indulge him in anything he puts on his Amazon wishlist.

What's my point you ask? ... Oliver is a kid, still finding his way, not always taking the right path nor the easiest. He has the occasional temper tantrum on social media, then heads off to classes at university. He's also a competetive fencer, something that takes fierce discipline.
...Matthew is an adult who has temper tantrums and makes videos for a living, 'I Lit My Penis On Fire', 'Can I Deepthroat A Banana?'

At least Oliver is wiggling his ass and waving his dick for us. Leave the kid alone.

Can you tell me what the biggest difference is in your post and all the ones before you? Answer: Everyone before you were giving opinions and you were issuing demands. You might be taken more seriously if you would quit acting like a sour old teacher and more like a member offering an opinion on an open forum. Just saying.

 

[oldfart63]

Well, I guess I'm back. I can't resist the urge to throw in my 2 cents.

Love him or hate him, Oliver is never less than 100% himself. A teenage college student looking for ways to earn money. He's not a bad kid, but he has been a bit demonized for wearing his heart on his sleeve and like every kid everywhere, unable to shut up and keep his own counsel when he most needs to.

So he isn't your cup of tea, or your panties are still in a bunch because he called some people old farts, etc. Don't watch his scenes. I hope Mark and Sha did ban him from these forums, for his sake not yours. I'm 51, with 30+years on him and would be hard pressed to contain myself if I had to read some of the vitriol spewed Oliver's way.

As for his on-line "begging", I call bullshit. He's not doing anything different than a lot of the porn boys are doing, and at least they are dealing with adults who presumably are capable of making informed, if a bit skewed, decisions.

If you want to ride your moral high horse and wave your flag of disgust, go check out a few of the youtubers who post regular mail vlogs of themselves opening packages worth hundreds and thousands of dollars. Start with Matthew Lush who this past Thursday started his monthly mail vlog by opening a letter that contained a Disney Store gift card worth $500. And that was just the start of his hour long video. Search back a couple of Christmas videos and watch him and a friend open Apple watches, I-Pads and much more in a TWO part vlog. Matthew is 28 and his core audience are 13-18 year old kids who send him pictures and candy and want to be just like him. Aside from the kids he appears to have a group of hard core older fans (25-35 yr old women, and older men) who indulge him in anything he puts on his Amazon wishlist.

What's my point you ask? ... Oliver is a kid, still finding his way, not always taking the right path nor the easiest. He has the occasional temper tantrum on social media, then heads off to classes at university. He's also a competetive fencer, something that takes fierce discipline.
...Matthew is an adult who has temper tantrums and makes videos for a living, 'I Lit My Penis On Fire', 'Can I Deepthroat A Banana?'

At least Oliver is wiggling his ass and waving his dick for us. Leave the kid alone.

Talking about riding a moral high horse! Just who the hell are you to define who can say what, about whom, on this forum? I subscribe to Broke Straight Boys, that is pay a monthly fee for access to this site. Oliver performs for them and is paid by them. So, in that weird business sense, we help provide Oliver with his income. Broke Straight Boys provides this forum for us to express what we thank, and that's exactly what we do.

I made some comments about Ronan Kennedy on this forum back in October when I first joined this forum. I would hardly call it vitriol, but I was highly critical of how I felt he treated another model in a scene. It's ironic now that the other model was Oliver. Ronan Kennedy came on the forum directly and clearly and maturely explained what happened during the scene and that it was not abusive, as I had perceived it to be. Being a mature adult, I apologized profusely (and sincerely) to Ronan Kennedy on this same forum. I can only hope he read it and accepted my apology, but Ronan Kennedy earned a lot of my respect that day.

As far as my "vitriol" is concerned, the only question I asked Oliver on this forum was simply (and only half seriously), "How does a guy go from being a Freshmen in college to a senior in less that a year?" That is the level of character assassination I leveled at Oliver that earned his wrath on his Twitter page (he'd already been banned from the forum by then). Why not simply answer the question? Because Oliver can't stand anyone who questions his story, and lashes out in an immature way.

sammigirl13, do you know that a false equivalency is? Matthew Lush! Matthew Lush is a false equivalency. To compare Matthew Lush to Oliver is a false equivalency. Unless Matthew has appeared on Broke Straight Boys, who the Hell cares about Matthew Lush. Just because he hustles people on YouTube doesn't mean I now should have a new respect for hustlers. I didn't respect hustlers when they would hustle in bars, and I respect them even less now that they don't even have to make the effort to breathe in the same room as the guys they hustle. It has nothing to do with hating anyone. If he's competing in fencing, then great. If he's advancing in the sport, then congratulations. I would like to read about it sometimes, but of course I would know better than to look it up under the name "Oliver Saxon".

Congratulations on being such an Oliver Saxon fan. I'm glad he has many. You're right about one thing, Oliver is Oliver 100% of the time. 24/7. 365. Sundays and holidays, too. There are definitely Oliver fans on this site, but I don't think there's anyone here who is as dedicated an Oliver Saxon...fan.....as you...

sammigirl13, are you really Oliver?

 

[mikeyank]

Gee whiz. I go to work on a Tuesday and all hell breaks loose on the forum. lolololol

 

[Buckeye1]

Gee whiz. I go to work on a Tuesday and all hell breaks loose on the forum. lolololol

Welcome home...we missed you. lol

 

[johnny]

Can you tell me what the biggest difference is in your post and all the ones before you? Answer: Everyone before you were giving opinions and you were issuing demands. You might be taken more seriously if you would quit acting like a sour old teacher and more like a member offering an opinion on an open forum. Just saying.

Talking about riding a moral high horse! Just who the hell are you to define who can say what, about whom, on this forum? I subscribe to Broke Straight Boys, that is pay a monthly fee for access to this site. Oliver performs for them and is paid by them. So, in that weird business sense, we help provide Oliver with his income. Broke Straight Boys provides this forum for us to express what we thank, and that's exactly what we do.

I made some comments about Ronan Kennedy on this forum back in October when I first joined this forum. I would hardly call it vitriol, but I was highly critical of how I felt he treated another model in a scene. It's ironic now that the other model was Oliver. Ronan Kennedy came on the forum directly and clearly and maturely explained what happened during the scene and that it was not abusive, as I had perceived it to be. Being a mature adult, I apologized profusely (and sincerely) to Ronan Kennedy on this same forum. I can only hope he read it and accepted my apology, but Ronan Kennedy earned a lot of my respect that day.

As far as my "vitriol" is concerned, the only question I asked Oliver on this forum was simply (and only half seriously), "How does a guy go from being a Freshmen in college to a senior in less that a year?" That is the level of character assassination I leveled at Oliver that earned his wrath on his Twitter page (he'd already been banned from the forum by then). Why not simply answer the question? Because Oliver can't stand anyone who questions his story, and lashes out in an immature way.

sammigirl13, do you know that a false equivalency is? Matthew Lush! Matthew Lush is a false equivalency. To compare Matthew Lush to Oliver is a false equivalency. Unless Matthew has appeared on Broke Straight Boys, who the Hell cares about Matthew Lush. Just because he hustles people on YouTube doesn't mean I now should have a new respect for hustlers. I didn't respect hustlers when they would hustle in bars, and I respect them even less now that they don't even have to make the effort to breathe in the same room as the guys they hustle. It has nothing to do with hating anyone. If he's competing in fencing, then great. If he's advancing in the sport, then congratulations. I would like to read about it sometimes, but of course I would know better than to look it up under the name "Oliver Saxon".

Congratulations on being such an Oliver Saxon fan. I'm glad he has many. You're right about one thing, Oliver is Oliver 100% of the time. 24/7. 365. Sundays and holidays, too. There are definitely Oliver fans on this site, but I don't think there's anyone here who is as dedicated an Oliver Saxon...fan.....as you...

sammigirl13, are you really Oliver?

My Biggest regret in Life. Not being able to write like youzz guy's. As one of my favorite Lady's says. Beauty Fades Dumb is forever. Oh Well..

 

[mikeyank]

My Biggest regret in Life. Not being able to write like youzz guy's. As one of my favorite Lady's says. Beauty Fades Dumb is forever. Oh Well..

I think I know who you mean Johnny!

 

[Buckeye1]

My Biggest regret in Life. Not being able to write like youzz guy's. As one of my favorite Lady's says. Beauty Fades Dumb is forever. Oh Well..

I don't know why you are down on "our" Johnny. I LOVE reading your posts AND you are almost always right...plus you're funny and delightful to know. However, "youzz guys"...really? You've been hanging with Mikeyank too long. lololol Love ya, buddy.

 

[mikeyank]

I don't know why you are down on "our" Johnny. I LOVE reading your posts AND you are almost always right...plus you're funny and delightful to know. However, "youzz guys"...really? You've been hanging with Mikeyank too long. lololol Love ya, buddy.

I actually agree that Johnny has a way of getting his point across in a lot less words than many of us, particularly me. I love reading Johnny's posts and there is nothing ambiguous about a "Johnny post". We all know exactly what he is thinking. Keep on being true to yourself young man!

 

[tampa24]

I would encourage those that have any question about Dillon to give him a shot. He was with us in the past at College Dudes and did a phenomenal job and he is definitely a solid performer.

I will definitely give Dillan a shot.

That having been said, this thread illuminates all of the social and ethical quandaries for models and fans alike at the early turn of this century. It's possible that some things which might seem in poor taste by some (or many) now, will become the new norm within 2-10 years. Or will they? Society and social norms are always in a state of flux. For instance porn viewing itself used to be what felt like a naughty or dirty little secret that few openly discussed outside of a group of trusted friends. Now, for better and for worse, porn viewing (both hetero and gay) has gone quite mainstream within our culture.

I love Broke Straight Boys for the fantasy that at least some of the models are straight (or straight-ish) amateur first-timers. When a model outs himself as gay on social media (by re-tweeting dozens of links/pics of other gay guys and gay porn models for instance) I can at least take some enjoyment from their work if they appear to be straight-er in appearance, personality and mannerisms. The gayer looking and acting models just tend to interest me less.

 

[tampa24]

LOL that brings up something from years (some might remember) when I posted a survey asking on how many viewers thought the guys escorted on the side. You would have thought I'd asked how many of you guys beat children. It was a heated exchange of opinions for a month or so. I just sat back and was amazed at the ridicule I received for even asking such a question. Never offered an opinion on the responses. Just read them. Been with several porn stars from Rentmen.com at least their honest about it and willing to work for their money and not humiliating themselves and looking for lonely guys willing to fall prey.

Another example of changing social attitudes Frontier. lol

To this day though, if I have a favorite model on the site and find out elsewhere that he escorts, I keep it a secret and don't broadcast it. Protectiveness? A desire to spare them from ridicule or loss of popularity? Several different motivations I guess. I don't like it when I see favorite models of mine "outed" as escorts. But then if a model is outed as an escort and he's not a favorite, I don't get as uptight over it. Yeah. It's a double standard of the human condition I guess. haha

And no... I've never hired an escort. lol Not that I have anything against those who do.

 

[johnny]

Another example of changing social attitudes Frontier. lol

To this day though, if I have a favorite model on the site and find out elsewhere that he escorts, I keep it a secret and don't broadcast it. Protectiveness? A desire to spare them from ridicule or loss of popularity? Several different motivations I guess. I don't like it when I see favorite models of mine "outed" as escorts. But then if a model is outed as an escort and he's not a favorite, I don't get as uptight over it. Yeah. It's a double standard of the human condition I guess. haha

And no... I've never hired an escort. lol Not that I have anything against those who do.

The difference tampa. Is now with twitter and facebook they out themselves.

 

[oldfart63]

My Biggest regret in Life. Not being able to write like youzz guy's. As one of my favorite Lady's says. Beauty Fades Dumb is forever. Oh Well..

Johnny, I replied to your quote yesterday, but apparently it didn't post. Everyone has their own writing style. It doesn't matter how many words you write or how many $20 words you use. The whole idea is to get your point across, and you have that ability down just fine. #Dont'worryabutit.

 

[tampa24]

The difference tampa. Is now with twitter and facebook they out themselves.

True enough Johnny. haha

 

[Repareur]

Maybe Oliver and Dillon are the new Damien and Paul? I'm not sure the porn set is the place to meet your boyfriend but at least you get to try them out. I used to say the difference between straight and gay dating was that we fuck first and if that went ok we might get to know each other. I'm not so sure straight people aren't on to our game these days.

 

[oldfart63]

Maybe Oliver and Dillon are the new Damien and Paul? I'm not sure the porn set is the place to meet your boyfriend but at least you get to try them out. I used to say the difference between straight and gay dating was that we fuck first and if that went ok we might get to know each other. I'm not so sure straight people aren't on to our game these days.

I understand that Dillon already has a partner in real life, though he and Oliver are friends. Good friends, apparently. I've been told (since I don't watch Chaturbate) that Dillon and his partner DP'd Oliver on Oliver's Chaturbate channel. I don't know if his partner is in the business or not.

 

[Beth]

Paul and Damien have now done a scene for Men.com! It took a while but it's nice to see them together on a site!!!

 

[tampa24]

Paul and Damien have now done a scene for Men.com! It took a while but it's nice to see them together on a site!!!

Cool! Thanks for the update Beth.

 

[Repareur]

Paul and Damien have now done a scene for Men.com! It took a while but it's nice to see them together on a site!!!

I alluded to this earlier but I didn't know if it was ok to mention the other site. The scene is pretty good. It would have been better without a condom. I'm sure they don't do that at home. I wish they had done it here with an interview and some behind the scenes. Thier relationship is the most enduring thread that I've noticed on this forum. And what a story. You might not believe it if it were a script but I think most of us are pulling for them. It's definitely an against all odds situation.