Just a newbie take on things

[bi45251]

I'm still a noob on this forum but wanted to offer an observation to see what everyone else thought.

There seems to be an anti gay backklash among certain models. For example when I see Bobby (my opinion) being an asshole to Anthony by seeing and saying He is going to fuck him harder. Of course this relates back how Jimmy treats his partners and now Bobby trying to emulate him. I think Bobby is headed down a crooked path here.

He may be trying to prove his masculinity here by being a hard ass but it comes across as being mean and uncaring.

I've also missed seen both performers did not shoot their load. This also speaks volumes about the role of the model.

I'm not saying we should go back because that may not be the best thing but the general hard assness of the models toward each other should stop. It's almost like they can't stand each other.

Shere is the friendshipo and comraderie.

On the plus side the narration has gotten better. I would still like to hear more back story and background.

Things like Leon bringing Tyler the birthday bcake and then letting Tyler top.

It was fun and I don't see that anymore. Now its va fuckem get mt pay. I've even seen looks of disgust when partnering. If you don't want to do the scene don't fucking do it.

Anti gay might bee too strong. Maybe too uber straight and no fun for the boys on the site.

I'm not trying to defend but I really don't want to see Jimmy and nows Bobby almost raping a guy and brutalizing him and then laughing about it.

Said my piece and I know many will disagree and I welcome that

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Bi45251, I can't agree with anti gay................but we do have some guys that are, or try to appear uber straight.

I think what we really have is some guys that like sex a bit rougher than what we have had in the past. Maybe they think that with a guy, they can have rougher sex than they have been having with girls...........it may be part of the fantasy for them.

And talking about fucking someone harder, is part of a lot of porn, straight and gay. Dirty talk during sex doesn't necessarily mean anything about the way it feels or its intent. It just may be dirty sex talk.

I welcome your thoughts, and agree with a lot them. I just really, really, really wish that you hadn't used the word rape. It insights cyber riots around here.

Rape is forcible sexual relations with a person against that person's will. That word has no place here, and the feelings that it dredges up in people are far to serious to throw it around.

Rape does not happen in a place where you read a script/plan, sign a contract agreeing to do it, and get handed a pay check. They may not like the sex they are having..........but they did come here intending to have that sex. I have been with guys in my life that the sex flat out sucked, whether it was too hard, too fast, or didn't get me off, but just because I didn't like it, I couldn't call foul after the fact.

The very premise behind this sight, makes it such that, sometimes it is hot, sometimes it is smokin' hot, sometimes it is mundane, and sometimes it just sucks. You never know what you are going to get, and that mystery is part of the allure.........

 

[mikeyank]

You do bring up some excellent points bi45251, which have been discussed here before, but as you are new to the forum, I certainly understand why you bring them up. And this is my take on what you ask.

This site was established as a fetish site, for those of us especially turned on by watching otherwise straight guys, who are down on their luck, in need of cash, performing gay sex for the prurient enjoyment of those of us into such behavior. I believe that is you check out the very earliest episodes in the archives, you will see many straight guys, who act disgusted by the idea of gay sex, as they were coerced to do more for more cash, the whole while protesting what they were being asked to do.

I also recall a lot of deception in the story lines of the early scenes, where guys were told that they were here just for a solo, when a knock on the door brought in another model who was early for his shoot, so they were asked to jerk off side by side to "save time". They were told that they didn't have to touch one another, but to simply jerk off side by side. But they often were convinced to do more for more cash. They were also told that there would be girls brought in, but they never showed up, or that if they did well on camera, the video would be shown to the girls who would be there for the next shoot, or they would get to appear on the other site, "Broke Straight Girls". David also used to say that he was filming their scene's for his own personal use, and it would never be shown publicly. But of course these were story lines, to turn on the audience, and not reality.

The point is that what started as straight guys, very reluctantly doing "gay stuff" turned into models appearing regularly and developing a following among the viewers, as they went further and further. Then we had guys who admitted to being either gay or bi, interacting with the straight boys, and of course we had passionate love making, typified by Jimmie Slater (shout out to Ms. K ), and later Porn Shane who were into kissing and tender lovemaking.

So we now have some folks who enjoy Bobby fucking Anthony harder for the audience that likes the basic concept, and we have folks who want more lovemaking, and so the only way to satisfy the overall audience is to mix things up, with "uber straight" guys like Jimmy all the way to a guy like Colin, who is here to please his partners and his audience with a "I will do anything" attitude. To keep a big audience Broke Straight Boys needs to cater to the general public with all of the various desires and needs in their porn.

Whether I agree or disagree with your take on this site, bi45251, I enjoy hearing from as many members of the audience as possible. The forum only works as an interesting sidebar to the Broke Straight Boys films, if we have active participation of the membership. Thank you for your interesting comments.

 

[JLipps4u]

Well said Mike and MS. K.

bi, I think a lot of what you perceive as anti-gay, is just scripted acting. An effort to make the models appear more on the straight side, rather than bi or gay. This is especially true for models who have become porn stars on here. The more episodes they appear in, the less believable they are as truly Broke Straight Boys

 

[colsbear]

Well said Mike and MS. K.

bi, I think a lot of what you perceive as anti-gay, is just scripted acting. An effort to make the models appear more on the straight side, rather than bi or gay. This is especially true for models who have become porn stars on here. The more episodes they appear in, the less believable they are as truly Broke Straight Boys

JLipps ... I agree with you. However, I don't care if they're straight or "queer as a three dollar bill". I like to watch Darren and Colin. I hope they're around for a long long time.

 

[mikeyank]

JLipps ... I agree with you. However, I don't care if they're straight or "queer as a three dollar bill". I like to watch Darren and Colin. I hope they're around for a long long time.

That does appear to be the dichotomy that takes place here, colsbear. There is a segment of membership, such as myself that wants to see "straight" boys doing gay things, and other's like you who don't care if the model's are gay, straight, bi or whatever, as long as they have hot sex on camera for our entertainment.

Those two schools of thought, or desire are what often split's the forum on the more controversial models here. That's why I recommend for management to give us a wide variety of models who will hopefully cover all of the various taste's of membership.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

That does appear to be the dichotomy that takes place here, colsbear. There is a segment of membership, such as myself that wants to see "straight" boys doing gay things, and other's like you who don't care if the model's are gay, straight, bi or whatever, as long as they have hot sex on camera for our entertainment.

Those two schools of thought, or desire are what often split's the forum on the more controversial models here. That's why I recommend for management to give us a wide variety of models who will hopefully cover all of the various taste's of membership.

As long as that wide variety of models all get to do scenes with CHAD!

 

[mikeyank]

As long as that wide variety of models all get to do scenes with CHAD!

Somehow I am starting to get the impression that Ms. K is developing a crush on....................... Mr. Chad!!!!!

 

[sercountry]

I'm still a noob on this forum but wanted to offer an observation to see what everyone else thought.

There seems to be an anti gay backklash among certain models. For example when I see Bobby (my opinion) being an asshole to Anthony by seeing and saying He is going to fuck him harder. Of course this relates back how Jimmy treats his partners and now Bobby trying to emulate him. I think Bobby is headed down a crooked path here.

He may be trying to prove his masculinity here by being a hard ass but it comes across as being mean and uncaring.

I've also missed seen both performers did not shoot their load. This also speaks volumes about the role of the model.

I'm not saying we should go back because that may not be the best thing but the general hard assness of the models toward each other should stop. It's almost like they can't stand each other.

Shere is the friendshipo and comraderie.

On the plus side the narration has gotten better. I would still like to hear more back story and background.

Things like Leon bringing Tyler the birthday bcake and then letting Tyler top.

It was fun and I don't see that anymore. Now its va fuckem get mt pay. I've even seen looks of disgust when partnering. If you don't want to do the scene don't fucking do it.

Anti gay might bee too strong. Maybe too uber straight and no fun for the boys on the site.

I'm not trying to defend but I really don't want to see Jimmy and nows Bobby almost raping a guy and brutalizing him and then laughing about it.

Said my piece and I know many will disagree and I welcome that

I fell the same as you an thank you for saying what a lot of us thinks.

 

[lesit78]

Personally, I am pretty much with Mike on what I like. However, I am not as into wanting the guy to be truly straight as I think Mike does. To me, if he's believably straight, I'm good. And fortunately, most of the guys who appear on Broke Straight Boys nowadays, are believably straight.

I checked out the www.brokestraightgirls.com site, and seriously Mark...you could have a really popular site on there if you changed the format a little.

Instead of every scene being about the girls, with two girls and one guy in 100% of the scenes, make it more about the guy and the girl only (no threesomes), and get hotter guys. I noticed most of the guys who model on the brokestraightgirls.com site are older, and in some cases are overweight and have huge stomachs.

I'll bet ANYTHING, if you started updating that site again, and had some of the truly straight Broke Straight Boys models also modeling on BSG (similar to how corbin fisher has a companion site amateurcollegesex where they fuck the girls), you would have a ton of people joining to watch guys like Jimmy, AJ, Rocco, fucking girls on a regular basis.

Promote the daylights out of it, and people will cross over to Broke Straight Boys from BSG and vice versa.

I know I would join in a second, and there are many like me who are mainly gay but still somewhat towards the middle in terms of being bi sexual and I think watching hot guys fuck hot girls is super hot IF it's hot sex and filmed well (as most straight porn is).

It would also probably give additional incentive for new and potentially new Broke Straight Boys models to want to also model for BSG!

I know there are plenty of Broke Straight Boys members who wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in watching their favorite Broke Straight Boys fucking girls...but there are probably many who WOULD.

 

[Beth]

Personally, I am pretty much with Mike on what I like. However, I am not as into wanting the guy to be truly straight as I think Mike does. To me, if he's believably straight, I'm good. And fortunately, most of the guys who appear on Broke Straight Boys nowadays, are believably straight.

I checked out the www.brokestraightgirls.com site, and seriously Mark...you could have a really popular site on there if you changed the format a little.

Instead of every scene being about the girls, with two girls and one guy in 100% of the scenes, make it more about the guy and the girl only (no threesomes), and get hotter guys. I noticed most of the guys who model on the brokestraightgirls.com site are older, and in some cases are overweight and have huge stomachs.

I'll bet ANYTHING, if you started updating that site again, and had some of the truly straight Broke Straight Boys models also modeling on BSG (similar to how corbin fisher has a companion site amateurcollegesex where they fuck the girls), you would have a ton of people joining to watch guys like Jimmy, AJ, Rocco, fucking girls on a regular basis.

Promote the daylights out of it, and people will cross over to Broke Straight Boys from BSG and vice versa.

I know I would join in a second, and there are many like me who are mainly gay but still somewhat towards the middle in terms of being bi sexual and I think watching hot guys fuck hot girls is super hot IF it's hot sex and filmed well (as most straight porn is).

It would also probably give additional incentive for new and potentially new Broke Straight Boys models to want to also model for BSG!

I know there are plenty of Broke Straight Boys members who wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in watching their favorite Broke Straight Boys fucking girls...but there are probably many who WOULD.

Oh yeah, count me in!

 

[tampa24]

As long as that wide variety of models all get to do scenes with CHAD!

Is Chad becoming the new Jimmie? LOL

 

[tampa24]

There seems to be an anti gay backklash among certain models. For example when I see Bobby (my opinion) being an asshole to Anthony by seeing and saying He is going to fuck him harder. Of course this relates back how Jimmy treats his partners and now Bobby trying to emulate him. I think Bobby is headed down a crooked path here.

He may be trying to prove his masculinity here by being a hard ass but it comes across as being mean and uncaring.

I'm not saying we should go back because that may not be the best thing but the general hard assness of the models toward each other should stop. It's almost like they can't stand each other.

On the plus side the narration has gotten better. I would still like to hear more back story and background.

Things like Leon bringing Tyler the birthday cake and then letting Tyler top.

It was fun and I don't see that anymore. Now its va fuckem get mt pay. I've even seen looks of disgust when partnering. If you don't want to do the scene don't fucking do it.

Anti gay might bee too strong. Maybe too uber straight and no fun for the boys on the site.

I'm not trying to defend but I really don't want to see Jimmy and nows Bobby almost raping a guy and brutalizing him and then laughing about it.

Said my piece and I know many will disagree and I welcome that

You hit on alot of points that many in here will agree with. It is worth noting however that there have been two directors here on Broke Straight Boys The longest serving one was David. His videos ended early this year when Clay came aboard. So you're comparing scenes from last year and much farther back with scenes from this year. There are obviously going to be different artistic takes and styles from two directors.

I must agree with you on the point that if the work is so distasteful to any model, that they not do it. And let them go get a real job in the mainstream economy. A little reluctance from a nervous straight guy is fine. Even desirable to a point. But the viewers' patience does have limits.