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Jimmy and Matt Worst scene ever

I second Warren's review, that was a most excellent post Cumrag :)

What I appreciated about your discourse was the logical manner you used to present your arguments. (Yes, I am drawn to people who are intelligent and use logic well.) I don't consider well-thought-out responses to be raging rags; quite the contrary, people like you, Smiley, Slimmie (to name a few...) all present logical, thoughtful suggestions or evaluations--and you don't resort to name-calling or opinionated put-downs of others.

If I were to look back at the time I first decided to subscribe, it was because of models like Tyler, Anthony/Michael, Jaime, Sean (whoa cowboy!). [sorry, MsK, Jimmie and Diesal came a lot later!] There was definitely a likeability factor, a certain masculine air, and an interaction that didn't seem quite so contrived. I haven't watched all the episodes, because I was disinterested in either a model's appearance or personality. Even if a scene include someone I liked, if the pairing was likely to include someone less than likeable and the rating was low, I knew it wouldn't be worth my time to view the video.

Were I to be a first-time viewer with the current videos, it's highly unlikely I would have any inclination to subscribe, let alone 'give it time.' Mark has leveraged his business on the goodwill of the old timers, because we are willing to give his 'rebranding' the benefit of the doubt. We know he had a good product in BSB1.0 that was entertaining, and know he is sharp as a businessman to take a direction that will not to kill his cash cow.

If anything, the entertainment value of the forum--for the most part, when devoid of self-aggrandizing or arrogant posts--is enough to keep me connected. I, too, am still waiting for the changes that will satisfy Smiley. I certainly hope Zyl's signature closing comes to fruition: 'it gets better...'
 
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Now we're making it sound more like a game show, Clay is the host, and the performers are contestants.

Do we, or should we really care about the process they follow to get a scene off the ground?

Are things becoming so disastrous that we're now resorting to grasping at straws?

It seems to me that considerably more thought and effort should go into the meat of the scene. Not the haggling or negotiating, but more along the lines of the *sex*. After all, isn't that the fundamental reason why most of us joined?

Personally I couldn't care less how much haggling and negotiating goes on, other than the shorter and briefer the better. I never watch that part anyway, I always fast forward to them getting naked and watching them have sex.

But if a scene is one-sided, lacks passion, a connection and/or chemistry between the guys, that translates through the camera and over to the viewers.

On one hand, the lack of a connection and passion seems to appeal to the members who love seeing totally straight guys. But on the other hand, different members find that boring, unexciting, and dull.

Personally, I have to see kissing...at least occasionally. Not all the time, because then it just becomes boring too. And being told to kiss on cue doesn't even count, because then it just becomes another a la carte item. But an occasional scene where the guys connect, and let a kissing session slip in during foreplay and/or fucking can bered hot!

But at the rate things are going now, it'll be a year and a half and 50 more new models before anyone is going to see any unprompted kissing go on.

For the fans of straight-guys-only, think back to your real-life experiences with straight guys. Tell me that some of your experiences with truly straight guys didn't involve at least occasional kissing.

There are various aspects to some of the more member-favorited scenes from days past, that I will try to focus on and present as I see them.

1. Alden and Jamie

One of the earliest scenes, but one of the most passionate ones ever filmed on Broke Straight Boys Two straight boys suck each other's cocks, and then end up fucking. There is an obvious connection between the two, yet they are believable at being straight. Plus, when the top is fucking the bottom (forget who is who), you can hear the sounds of them kissing for awhile as they're fucking. You don't get to see it, and you can barely hear it, but you know it's there.

2. Sebastian and Alex

Again, two more straight boys. While Alex's straight credentials can seem questionable, they still do a decent job pulling it off. But as Alex is sucking Sebastian, his cock is rock hard without being touched just from sucking Sebastian's cock. The haggling goes on for awhile, but they finally agree to fuck. Once they do, they're both loving it. And again, we are treated to the sounds of some hot, passionate kissing as they're fucking.

3. Ross and Erik

Two more straight boys, who come into the scene thinking they're there to fuck girls, for the "brokestraightgirls" site. We find out they share the same girlfriend, which they themselves don't know until they find out during the scene. Do they hate each other and want to kick each other's ass? Kind of. Because David has them take off their clothes, sit back down, and start kissing. Which they do, and Ross starts getting visibly hard without touching his cock just from kissing Erik. From there, they begin taking turns doing oral on each other, with various segments of more kissing, before the fucking begins (bareback I might add). While Erik is pounding Ross, they start hitting each other with a belt while fucking! Not in a painful manner, but more in a playful male-vs-male domination type manuever. And I'd like to add that that scene was one of the few times that any sort of hardware or "props" was used in a scene. Normally, David focused way more on the models' interactions with each other than with inanimate objects or haggling over price and negotiations.

4. Rabib and Daxter part 2

Not a lot of kissing or passion shown from Rabib's facial expressions, overall bored attitude until he gets fucked and especially at the end, but Daxter came into this scene quiet, but raring and ready to fuck. From the minute he took off his clothes with this shit eating grin on his face, shucking off his pants revealing an 80% hard cock, he pounds Rabib (who to me, seemed to love it even though he seemed to me like he was *trying to act like he didn't*. The scene ends with Daxter pulling out and shooting his entire load into Rabib's open mouth, and then leans back on his haunches with a look of pure ecstasy on his face as Rabib proceeds to lick his cock clean of every drop of cum as though it's the most delicious vanilla ice cream cone he's ever eaten! Followed by Rabib continuing to suck Daxter's softening cock, as if he's a baby suckling on a bottle! By this time everyone is breathless, and basking in afterglow.

5. Porn Shane and Josh

Wow. These guys were really into each other, that was obvious. There wasn't even any fucking, but the kissing was oh-so hot. These guys were nibbling on each others lips, kissing each other's noses, and obviously so into each other. I'll bet Josh, wherever he is, still wakes up in the middle of the night dreaming of Shane: I just hope he doesn't scream his name, and that it doesn't also wake his girlfriend up next to him.


6. Diesal and Jimmie parts 1 2 and 3

I saved the best for last Ms. K!!! :001_tt1: :001_tt1: :001_tt1:

Diesal and Jimmie is where Diesal literally reinvents himself in front of our eyes. Prior to these scenes, Diesal was the big friendly oaf, with the non-stop smile and the good natured joking and having fun...not to mention the big, perpetually semi-hard cock and balls that dance when they're licked, and the long powerful legs. What a super masculine, hot, powerful body he has on him. Jimmie was a Broke Straight Boys newbie, who seemed like the playful and friendly grocery store carryout guy. When these two got together, the sparks flew! They kissed each other from start to finish, with passion and chemistry that cannot be manufactured or prompted.

Diesal transformed himself from a friendly clown with a smile to a big dicked powerhouse fucking machine...Jimmie became his adoring powerbottom. At times while Diesal was fucking and kissing him, he grabbed Jimmie's throat and fucked with a passion and intensity that showed in his eyes, which Jimmie saw too because their eyes were locked onto each other.

The Diesal and Jimmie mini-series should have received an academy award nomination for best performers! And I might add, that before the Jimmie and Diesal scenes, they could have both pulled off the roles of any one of the current crop of guys on the new Broke Straight Boys..the difference being that they both have great personalities and had a lot of fun in each one of their scenes.

What did the above scenes contain that are lacking in the new content? Again, they were all about the interactions between the guys in the scenes. The haggling and negotiations, along with the pre-sex interviews were merely important, but brief intros to get the scenes started. They were oftentimes funny, contained information needed to understand the guys and their "story", showed their personality (and sometimes showed their discomfort and nervousness), sometimes corny, but always ended quickly so the hot sex could commence.

On a porn-site, the members join to watch hot sex -- period.

Abe
 
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It seems to me that for all the carping people did about David and the previous models, they want the new administration to be the same as the old. I always enjoyed David's work and most of the models but I am also enjoying the newer models and format. The complaint about them acting like "hustlers" was amusing and resulted in a big duhhh from me. Of course they do if they are in fact what they are advertised as being - Broke Straight Boys engaging in gay sex for pay. In fact an experienced hustler doing a "double' with another hustler is a lot easier to handle since both guys are clear on what they do and why they are there. There is a lot less hesitancy and more of a let's get it done attitude.

One of the reasons I think David often used a gay or bisexual model in a scene even if the model was pretending to be straight was to lessen the amount of hesitancy between two straight guys looking to see which of them is going to do something "gay' first. Not an uncommon reaction I can tell you from personal experience. For many years I have cultivated friendships with straight young men and have often found that while one of them might under the right incentives do all manner of things with me, if there is another straight guy present even if both know the score, there is considerable hesitancy to see which one will do what. The scenes portrayed so far mirror my experiences and so I do not have a major problem with them.

That said the new videos could be and as I understand it will be focused less on the negotiations and more on the action. I look forward to seeing the scenes develop.
I must say Juanjo that your post most parallels my life experiences, and my feelings about this site. This is kind of what I expected when I first joined the site. We are like minded about straight guys.
 
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