Jimmy and Matt Worst scene ever

[raysvq]

Dear qscott86,

You are absolutely right! Giving this shitty episode anymore than a 1 is too generous. But, then I guess some of us tend to be easily satisfied. Not me, however. Then you say..."The reason some of the newer videos are less popular is quite frankly... people like to see fucking ... no doubt about it. We haven't seen much of that yet because they are trying to not use obviously gay men like the old site did which I realize you found appealing but I certainly didn't". To that I say we had a few flaming models that in 6 years did not total more than 10 at the most. We had allot of guys that were in it for the sex itself, such as Leon. That did not make him a "Certified Card Carrying Gay Person". We had some people who were introduced as straight and over a period of time and many shoots came around but, were it not for their exposure to Broke Straight Boys might never have gone down this trail. TO ASSUME THAT EVERY MODEL WAS GAY ON Broke Straight Boys-1 IS A MAJOR DISTORTION OF REALITY.

i JUST KNOW THAT MY ONLY REASON FOR HANGING ON TO MY MEMBERSHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE LOUSY NEW EPISODES. THEY TURN MY STOMACH. I AM HOPING FOR THE DAY SOME RATIONALITY WILL RETURN TO THIS SITE AND WE WILL NOT HAVE EXPLOITATION IN THE FORM OF FLASHING THE $$$$ RUBBED IN OUR FACES AS IF WE JUST SHIT ON THE NEW CARPET. THAT WE WILL HAVE ATTRACTIVE MODELS AGAIN AND THAT WE MIGHT SEE SOME HOT SEX AFTER ALL. WE HAVE WAITED MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR THE Broke Straight Boys-2 AND I AM TIRED OF BEING TREATED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL THAT MAKES DAVID'S BOTTOM OF THE BARREL SEEM LIKE "FINE ART" IN COMPARISON.

This strict adherence to the new mantra is as if Broke Straight Boys has been turned over to some "Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson's view of "the straight and narrow" as applied to gay porn". Jerry Falwell sucked the big one just like this new "Broke Straight Boys orthodoxy for straight guys only approach". Speaking for myself, let me be the first one to admit personally that I have only had sex with STRAIGHT GUYS. This was not by design, but rather by lack of opportunity to be attracted to a gay guy for sexual purposes. I appreciate "straight acting guys as much as the next fellow, whatever their persuasion. I have never appreciated the "Femme-type" models that rarely popped up on Broke Straight Boys-1. But, neither was I so offended that I wanted to quit my subscription.

I opened my subscription to Broke Straight Boys on March 10, 2010 and I have never been closer than now to end my subscription because of all of the new Broke Straight Boys-2 UN-SEXY CRAP! With the old Broke Straight Boys, I always was turned off by the negotiating that was part of most of the shoots. In fact, occasionally the shoot got finished and David would observe, that well they never got around to negotiating. I WELCOMED THESE RARE EVENTS BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC ASSUMPTION, A GIVEN ON EVERYONE'S PART THAT ALL MODELS ARE BEING COMPENSATED AND HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT BEFORE THE SHOOT BEGINS. This isn't rocket science, is it???? Must we begin every episode with the "once upon a time" Broke Straight Boys scenario or do our members deserve the assumption that they have sufficient mental capacity to understand that financial arrangement already exists.

We used to have a "classy sight with sexy models who actually had sex" before Broke Straight Boys-2 came around. Now, class has been thrown out the window. We used to have the occasionally beautiful model, like Zakk, or Logan, or Shane for instance. Now we have the exclusively plain and unremarkable guys. It stands to reason that without any interesting sex, hard to deal with and defiant models that are hard on the eyes, what is there left to like???? NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Certainly not "cumming on a guy's foot", for crying out aloud!LOL It seems the film crew is trying to take everything to its most "literal extreme" with none of the artfulness present in past episodes on Broke Straight Boys-1.

I HAVE NOT ACCUMULATED MORE THAN 900 POSTS IN 13 MONTHS LIMITED EXCLUSIVELY TO BELLYACHING ALL THE WAY. I USED TO FEEL I SHARED SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH THE SITE, BUT NOT ANYMORE. I SIMPLY FEEL REPULSED BY THE CHANGES AND I NOW HATE IT ALL!

Dear lubetube,

I agree with your sentiments and really appreciate your fair appraisal of the changes to Broke Straight Boys In particular I agree with the following:

"As of now, it appears to me the Broke Straight Boys didn't merely change directors, but is now engaged in a total company rebranding combined with an overreaction to the accusation that the models weren't straight. If that is true, some will love it. But I fear many who found this site so enticing might soon be attracted to Broke Straight Boys's many copycats.

What a shame that would be."

I would like to end on a positive note. I really appreciate the addition of the "Jeremy Hall" site to our bonus sites. That is the only "new" thing about Broke Straight Boys that I have left look forward to viewing now.

Dear Mark,

I realize that I am only one insignificant member, but if the current trend of Broke Straight Boys-2 continues much longer, I will not be hanging around much longer either. These scenes are completely aversive and unappealing. The new management team had months and months to get their act together and have failed. What we are being treated to doesn't even deserve to be considered amateurish! Just imagine what the new subscriber must be thinking with so little to appreciate.

If Broke Straight Boys was the way it is right now, I would never have joined some 13 months ago. There is nothing worthy of watching in the new episodes. I rated this a "1" when I voted. Other scenes I simply left in disgust and did not bother to even vote.

For all your loyal fans who were happy with the broader spectrum David produced, I think your old fans deserve better than this!!!!

Sincerely disgusted and disappointed,


Cumrag27, aka Stimpy

I agree with you 100% Stimpy.
The new team had 12months to get the "new" product right, unfortunately they got it wrong.
If you are going to relaunch a successful product then you have to get it correct right from the start, there is no point putting up an inferior product & say we will improve it as we go.
Remember the old saying "First impressions are lasting impressions".
Imagine if Coka-Cola had replaced the original Coke with the New Coke instead of just releasing it along side the original, the company & brand would have been a distant memory now (& Pepsi would have been laughing all the way to the bank).

This is not a case of sitting & waiting for things to improve, it should have been better right from the start.
Ask the question - Towards the end, how many subscibers dropped out because of the "old" product compared to the number of subscribers that have dropped out since the "new" product was released?

 

[rrhill]

Do you dislike all 8 new episodes till now raysvq?

 

[raysvq]

Do you dislike all 8 new episodes till now raysvq?

I have not been impressed with any of them unfortunately.
Having said that I have also stated that I am willing to give the "new" a chance.
It is just disappointing that after all the hype about the release of the new, it has not lived up to expectations.

 

[raysvq]

Do you dislike all 8 new episodes till now raysvq?

So far of the eight episodes that have been released I have only downloaded & viewed three.
That is unusual for me because I have downloaded & viewed just about every episode of Broke Straight Boys
Of the three I have downloaded I am not impressed with any one of them.
And they were the only ones that I felt had any potential.
Had I known what they were like I would not have even downloaded them.

 

[rrhill]

Missed out on the hype, and returned here when the new episodes started. How could any one fill the big shoes David left at once? I was hoping for the best and fearing the worst. So for me the glass is half full instead of half empty.

Matthew is someone I could come to like a lot. The biggest problem I see till now is the total lack of chemistry between the models. They are way too macho to kiss, flirt or willing to try...

Vinnie and Zach is my favourite episode.

 

[raysvq]

Missed out on the hype, and returned here when the new episodes started. How could any one fill the big shoes David left at once? I was hoping for the best and fearing the worst. So for me the glass is half full instead of half empty.

Matthew is someone I could come to like a lot. The biggest problem I see till now is the total lack of chemistry between the models. They are way too macho to kiss, flirt or willing to try...

Vinnie and Zach is my favourite episode.

I was just having a quick look back at some of the first episodes from 2006 & there wasn't a lot of "chemistry" between the boys & certainly no kissing or flirting, but it still worked very well.

I did a comparison (I know it is like chalk & cheese, so there is no need for anyone to "debate" the subject) between 3 periods of Broke Straight Boys, just out of curiosity.
I went through each episode & compared the ratings for:-
1. The first eight episodes of the "new" Broke Straight Boys
2. The last eight episodes of the "old" Broke Straight Boys
3. The first eight episodes of the "old" Broke Straight Boys
It made for some interesting results.

 

[rrhill]

LOL I did the same! Came to a different conclusion though... David's straight models spoke normal, were no macho braggers that were afraid to be gay.

 

[raysvq]

LOL I did the same! Came to a different conclusion though... David's straight models spoke normal, were no macho braggers that were afraid to be gay.

I was going purely on the ratings numbers from a statistical point of view

 

[rrhill]

Dr. FrankenHill made an analyses of the new models on "Poll: How do you like BSB 2.0" Curious for your thoughts on that post!

 

[akrasia]

The whole bargaining, nickel and dime thing is just petty. I guess I don't get off watching a naked guy haggling with a voice...

I agree that there has been nothing sexy about any of these videos. The only appealing parts I've found I liked have been the parts where the haggling and bullshit finally stopped and the guys actually just closed their eyes and got to it. That part (which is usually something like 10% of the video) has actually been good a few times. That's just poor .

Think back to some of the stuff that happened in some of the older videos. For example ... the Jacob & Anthony videos. There's just a different quality of trepidation there. It's the difference between, "I'm totally straight but you're paying me a fuck ton of money so I'll do whatever but I won't like it," and, "I'm pretty straight but I'm right of the left enough to take money to do stuff with other guys." The result is the same; but, there a subtle difference in the way the guys come across and the way they interact with each other.

Also, I feel like I have to remind everyone that the videos at the "end" of 1.0 were actually just odds and ends rather than any kind of realistically planned storyline of models. It was said that at some point they would just run through the remaining stuff David directed. To actually see the end of the stuff that was actually planned and selected, you'd have to go back to where it stops looking so random from week to week.

 

[lesit78]

On their worst day, and with their eyes closed, David and D&E Productions could produce stuff twice as good as we've been seeing so far since Broke Straight Boys 2.0 was launched.

 

[rrhill]

Hi Akrasia,

Nice to meet you again. And as I remember well, you'd not even like them to just close their eyes and go to it, because the eyes are the mirror of the soul. There's beauty in the eyes to see, especially when they cum.

PS: Could David work with Jimmy?

 

[Smiley]

The new management team had months and months to get their act together and have failed. What we are being treated to doesn't even deserve to be considered amateurish!

The new team had 12months to get the "new" product right, unfortunately they got it wrong.
If you are going to relaunch a successful product then you have to get it correct right from the start, there is no point putting up an inferior product & say we will improve it as we go.

<snip>

This is not a case of sitting & waiting for things to improve, it should have been better right from the start.

I think you both are being very unrealistic here.

It is a truism in Hollywood that sequels are never as good as the original. For every Terminator 2 that surpasses the first movie, there are a dozen Oceans 12. And these guys have years to get things right, using the best screenwriters in the world, with millions of dollars at their disposal, trying out their work with test audiences, focus groups and pre-advance screenings. Mark has none of this. Any you insist that he gets it right from the very first video?

Give the guy a break. He wants to do a reboot of the site. It will take time and trial and error to get things figured out. Have you ever tried to change a recipe from meat to vegetarian? I can guarantee you that your first attempt will make you hungry for a greasy hamburger. By the third time, you will have something to serve to company.

Two years ago I produced a record for a buddy and 42 days after we recorded the first note, we had finished CDs in a beautiful package in our hands. That is unheard of record time to record a College Dudes. The resulting product has won a bunch of awards and still sounds tremendous to my ear. It was so easy, we tried to do it a second time. Same buddy, same band, same recording studio, same everything. A year and a half later, we got a finished College Dudes, and still, I think it needs some tweaking.

Almost nothing ever works as well the second time. It is going to take time for Mark and Clay to get things right.

As the old saying goes, patience is a virtue.

 

[lesit78]

I think you both are being very unrealistic here.

It is a truism in Hollywood that sequels are never as good as the original. For every Terminator 2 that surpasses the first movie, there are a dozen Oceans 12. And these guys have years to get things right, using the best screenwriters in the world, with millions of dollars at their disposal, trying out their work with test audiences, focus groups and pre-advance screenings. Mark has none of this. Any you insist that he gets it right from the very first video?

Give the guy a break. He wants to do a reboot of the site. It will take time and trial and error to get things figured out. Have you ever tried to change a recipe from meat to vegetarian? I can guarantee you that your first attempt will make you hungry for a greasy hamburger. By the third time, you will have something to serve to company.

Two years ago I produced a record for a buddy and 42 days after we recorded the first note, we had finished CDs in a beautiful package in our hands. That is unheard of record time to record a College Dudes. The resulting product has won a bunch of awards and still sounds tremendous to my ear. It was so easy, we tried to do it a second time. Same buddy, same band, same recording studio, same everything. A year and a half later, we got a finished College Dudes, and still, I think it needs some tweaking.

Almost nothing ever works as well the second time. It is going to take time for Mark and Clay to get things right.

As the old saying goes, patience is a virtue.

Good morning Smiley,

While I agree with you in principal, a site's evolution can hardly be compared to a one time event such as the sequel to a movie (or a College Dudes).

True a site is also a product, but its components are more fluid and everchanging. As each new scene is added, the site continues to evolve.

With your movie or College Dudes analogy, with the exception of money makers such as digitally re-mastering, adding "features" and director's cut editions, the content remains pretty much unchanged once it's completed. Consumers are purchasing product they know is not going to be changed no matter how many times they view it. Plus, a movie or College Dudes is a one-time purchase where Broke Straight Boys rebills every 30 days.

With a site that evolves over time, they're working in a more fluid environment is my opinion.

While I completely agree that the site has been re-booted, as the result of business decisions made by the site management, people are entitled to their opinion. Especially as the clock continues to tick, and recurring memberships rebill at the end of 30 days, decisions need to be made by the consumer(s) .

I am of the opinion the content we are seeing is being produced and shown as intended. What we are seeing is boys who are to be perceived as being straight do sexual type things among each other. Not necessarily *with* each other, but definitely "among" each other. Generally, straight guys aren't going to do things with each other as much as they can tolerate doing it while next to each other (i.e. lots of negotiating and haggling, jacking off), without sacrificing the perception of them being straight.

For those members who don't like the new Broke Straight Boys product now being offered, remember that Broke Straight Boys is now all about Broke, Straight, boys, and I feel is completely on-topic.

The new vegeterian Broke Straight Boys is being served up to company and has replaced the old "greasy hamburger" Broke Straight Boys of days past. And while I don't personally like it, I'm sure to many even though it's less filling, it tastes great!

Abe

 

[rrhill]

True a successful site is always a work in progress. However with three weekly episodes, and just a small stock of video's, we won't have to wait that long before suggestions can be picked up.

 

[juanjo]

It seems to me that for all the carping people did about David and the previous models, they want the new administration to be the same as the old. I always enjoyed David's work and most of the models but I am also enjoying the newer models and format. The complaint about them acting like "hustlers" was amusing and resulted in a big duhhh from me. Of course they do if they are in fact what they are advertised as being - Broke Straight Boys engaging in gay sex for pay. In fact an experienced hustler doing a "double' with another hustler is a lot easier to handle since both guys are clear on what they do and why they are there. There is a lot less hesitancy and more of a let's get it done attitude.

One of the reasons I think David often used a gay or bisexual model in a scene even if the model was pretending to be straight was to lessen the amount of hesitancy between two straight guys looking to see which of them is going to do something "gay' first. Not an uncommon reaction I can tell you from personal experience. For many years I have cultivated friendships with straight young men and have often found that while one of them might under the right incentives do all manner of things with me, if there is another straight guy present even if both know the score, there is considerable hesitancy to see which one will do what. The scenes portrayed so far mirror my experiences and so I do not have a major problem with them.

That said the new videos could be and as I understand it will be focused less on the negotiations and more on the action. I look forward to seeing the scenes develop.

 

[corey1975]

Although I have tried to back up these changes in previous posts, I must say that I am also fast becoming frustrated by the new format and the constant hustling in scenes. We have seen it all before and I think in retrospect, it was what really drew me to the membership of Broke Straight Boys It was unlike all the other sites. The rhetoric between David and the straight boys he interviewed was normally humorous and gave us more insight in to the real person standing (or sitting on the futon) in front of the camera. It was realistic and entertaining. The constant haggling, waving cash about and, frankly, boring exchange between "Matt" and his subjects is wearing very thin and needs to be stamped out before you lose a once solid fan base once and for all.

 

[Smiley]

Abe, good morning to you, too. As you say, there is much more agreement here than disagreement.

One confusion here may be the point of view. I was talking about how the end result can get botched when even the intentions are the best. I was considering the process, not the product. I totally agree we are seeing what TPTB intended for us to see. This is their new vision. It's just that sometimes the process from vision to reality is full of potholes. I shot enough TV commercials to learn that I should be happy if 60% of my original vision actually made it on the screen. There are mudholes aplenty between brainstorming in a conference room and writing a script, and the final ad running on TV. Plus a couple of times when I had a terrific idea for a sale and an ad, we'd shoot it, get an ad we all liked, and the public would not react. Nobody would buy and the sale would be a flop. You just can't predict these kind of things. The best intentions do not guarantee you the best results. I'd also bet $1,000 that Mark never had a focus group or panel review the first 10 videos to see if he was on the right track with his reboot. You do these things by the seat of your pants. It may not be wise or advisable, but it's the reality of the situation. You learn as you go. God knows I have.

To expect 100% perfection out of the gate is not realistic, and is where we are in agreement. That was also my point against the original posts.

 

[lesit78]

Very good points Smiley, all of them.

I do think the current membership base *is* serving as a panel review, focus group, test audience, whatever you want to call it. Those who are loving the new vision and new theme of the site will remain. An interesting example, in today's new scene featuring mainly side by side jacking off and a tiny bit of one-sided oral, it is completely on-topic and what you would expect to see happening between two perceived straight guys interacting among each other in a technically sexual situation. While I personally found it boring and as exciting to watch as an infomercial, other members found it entertaining and cool (one member commented that he enjoyed seeing Slink's dick soften at the prospect of having to suck Jamie's also limp dick). As you point out it's all about point of view, and one person's garbage is another's treasure.

I do think it would serve Broke Straight Boys well to perhaps formally announce the site's new vision or theme, because prior to my current understanding of what it is, based on Mark's pitch of the upcoming "new Broke Straight Boys" to us many months ago, I was under the impression it would be the "...hottest Broke Straight Boys ever!" But "hot" used as an adjective is not the same thing as when used as a measurement of temperature, because we all define the adjective much differently than we would if using a thermometer.

Perhaps a clear and concise definiton of what the site now is and will remain would be in order, so that people like myself will stop having so many incorrectly set expectations. While I support the new Broke Straight Boys's decision to make the change and to stand behind it, it is certainly not *at all* what I had anticipated it would be.

Abe

 

[warrenhottie]

Excellent my friend!!!

Dear qscott86,

You are absolutely right! Giving this shitty episode anymore than a 1 is too generous. But, then I guess some of us tend to be easily satisfied. Not me, however. Then you say..."The reason some of the newer videos are less popular is quite frankly... people like to see fucking ... no doubt about it. We haven't seen much of that yet because they are trying to not use obviously gay men like the old site did which I realize you found appealing but I certainly didn't". To that I say we had a few flaming models that in 6 years did not total more than 10 at the most. We had allot of guys that were in it for the sex itself, such as Leon. That did not make him a "Certified Card Carrying Gay Person". We had some people who were introduced as straight and over a period of time and many shoots came around but, were it not for their exposure to Broke Straight Boys might never have gone down this trail. TO ASSUME THAT EVERY MODEL WAS GAY ON Broke Straight Boys-1 IS A MAJOR DISTORTION OF REALITY.

i JUST KNOW THAT MY ONLY REASON FOR HANGING ON TO MY MEMBERSHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE LOUSY NEW EPISODES. THEY TURN MY STOMACH. I AM HOPING FOR THE DAY SOME RATIONALITY WILL RETURN TO THIS SITE AND WE WILL NOT HAVE EXPLOITATION IN THE FORM OF FLASHING THE $$$$ RUBBED IN OUR FACES AS IF WE JUST SHIT ON THE NEW CARPET. THAT WE WILL HAVE ATTRACTIVE MODELS AGAIN AND THAT WE MIGHT SEE SOME HOT SEX AFTER ALL. WE HAVE WAITED MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR THE Broke Straight Boys-2 AND I AM TIRED OF BEING TREATED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL THAT MAKES DAVID'S BOTTOM OF THE BARREL SEEM LIKE "FINE ART" IN COMPARISON.

This strict adherence to the new mantra is as if Broke Straight Boys has been turned over to some "Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson's view of "the straight and narrow" as applied to gay porn". Jerry Falwell sucked the big one just like this new "Broke Straight Boys orthodoxy for straight guys only approach". Speaking for myself, let me be the first one to admit personally that I have only had sex with STRAIGHT GUYS. This was not by design, but rather by lack of opportunity to be attracted to a gay guy for sexual purposes. I appreciate "straight acting guys as much as the next fellow, whatever their persuasion. I have never appreciated the "Femme-type" models that rarely popped up on Broke Straight Boys-1. But, neither was I so offended that I wanted to quit my subscription.

I opened my subscription to Broke Straight Boys on March 10, 2010 and I have never been closer than now to end my subscription because of all of the new Broke Straight Boys-2 UN-SEXY CRAP! With the old Broke Straight Boys, I always was turned off by the negotiating that was part of most of the shoots. In fact, occasionally the shoot got finished and David would observe, that well they never got around to negotiating. I WELCOMED THESE RARE EVENTS BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC ASSUMPTION, A GIVEN ON EVERYONE'S PART THAT ALL MODELS ARE BEING COMPENSATED AND HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT BEFORE THE SHOOT BEGINS. This isn't rocket science, is it???? Must we begin every episode with the "once upon a time" Broke Straight Boys scenario or do our members deserve the assumption that they have sufficient mental capacity to understand that financial arrangement already exists.

We used to have a "classy sight with sexy models who actually had sex" before Broke Straight Boys-2 came around. Now, class has been thrown out the window. We used to have the occasionally beautiful model, like Zakk, or Logan, or Shane for instance. Now we have the exclusively plain and unremarkable guys. It stands to reason that without any interesting sex, hard to deal with and defiant models that are hard on the eyes, what is there left to like???? NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Certainly not "cumming on a guy's foot", for crying out aloud!LOL It seems the film crew is trying to take everything to its most "literal extreme" with none of the artfulness present in past episodes on Broke Straight Boys-1.

I HAVE NOT ACCUMULATED MORE THAN 900 POSTS IN 13 MONTHS LIMITED EXCLUSIVELY TO BELLYACHING ALL THE WAY. I USED TO FEEL I SHARED SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH THE SITE, BUT NOT ANYMORE. I SIMPLY FEEL REPULSED BY THE CHANGES AND I NOW HATE IT ALL!

Dear lubetube,

I agree with your sentiments and really appreciate your fair appraisal of the changes to Broke Straight Boys In particular I agree with the following:

"As of now, it appears to me the Broke Straight Boys didn't merely change directors, but is now engaged in a total company rebranding combined with an overreaction to the accusation that the models weren't straight. If that is true, some will love it. But I fear many who found this site so enticing might soon be attracted to Broke Straight Boys's many copycats.

What a shame that would be."

I would like to end on a positive note. I really appreciate the addition of the "Jeremy Hall" site to our bonus sites. That is the only "new" thing about Broke Straight Boys that I have left look forward to viewing now.

Dear Mark,

I realize that I am only one insignificant member, but if the current trend of Broke Straight Boys-2 continues much longer, I will not be hanging around much longer either. These scenes are completely aversive and unappealing. The new management team had months and months to get their act together and have failed. What we are being treated to doesn't even deserve to be considered amateurish! Just imagine what the new subscriber must be thinking with so little to appreciate.

If Broke Straight Boys was the way it is right now, I would never have joined some 13 months ago. There is nothing worthy of watching in the new episodes. I rated this a "1" when I voted. Other scenes I simply left in disgust and did not bother to even vote.

For all your loyal fans who were happy with the broader spectrum David produced, I think your old fans deserve better than this!!!!

Sincerely disgusted and disappointed,


Cumrag27, aka Stimpy

I have to start out saying that I've always looked for your reactions on these threads as they seem to agree with my sentiments all the time & seem to be the unbiased rational center that most of us can agree with except for a select few. As for qscott86, he always alludes to us rational beings as being self centered, debbie dumpers on & on & I appreciate especially your comments in response as I like the most have definitely wasted our valuable time on his misery of demeaning us who look for quality in these updates time & time again.SO THANK YOU SO MUCH! He has been warned & it seems like he has continued on with his dribble despite that warning who upset alot of us & not only me.

So continue on & lead us in the charge for quality rather than suffering through much more dreadful scenes of minimal substance & content believing that hopefully this is just a temporary phrase which has severely gone off course & right itself before it turns out that we are being led towards a total meltdown & ending of this quality site of what it used to be. PEACE!~War