Is it me or. . .?

[tampa24]

JJ's a fag!!!! lol

LMFAO Peter!

 

[stowe1]

I feel compelled to make some observations:

HI Curious! Welcome to the forum.

I see some of the models you mention as a mixed bag. Johnny Forza, Tyler White, and Vadim Black all had issues while they filmed here. I'm usually loathe to singling out models for criticism. But you ask an honest and straight-forward question as to why certain models are no longer here, why the site was willing to let them go, etc. Your implication seeming to be that the studio was foolish for ever letting them go. Fair enough in feeling that way as a new member to the site. I'll try to answer some of that from my perspective as just another member (in others words, just your opinion) while being as gentle as I can towards said models. Keeping in mind of course that I don't claim that my answers are complete and infallible, have a monopoly on truth, or are the final say. (How could they be when you don't own the company, manage it, or work for it - again - your opinion; yet what you post below with respect to certain models is written as fact!!) I do not presume to have omniscient knowledge of things going on behind closed doors. (You shouldn't have any knowledge of what goes on behind closed doors, omniscient or otherwise, since you are nothing but a member like the rest of us; but what you have written below is full of things which strongly imply some degree of knowledge of what went on behind closed doors.) I certainly don't. Others may totally disagree with some of my opinions and conclusions.

Johnny Forza. Absolutely gorgeous body. No doubt. (In my mind at least.) Nice guy, but he had issues. Once he was signed to an exclusive contract he started to feel like all he had to do was show up on set with a smile and otherwise just go through the motions of a scene. Sometimes he just phoned some of his scenes in. He was also given so many scenes that he became overexposed and current members at the time got tired of seeing him so often. The quality of his work towards the end started slipping, along with his ratings.

He also got so full of himself and felt he was so special and important, that when he was called to fly out to the studio to film more scenes, he arrived with no luggage at all. I imagine he arrived from out of state to spend a week or at least a long weekend at the studio with only the clothes on his back. He probably showed up with just his wallet, keys, and cellphone, and little to nothing else beyond what fit in his pockets. I understand that he did this routinely. Not just once in a while. I guess he thought it was funny to show up at the airport with no suitcase and that members' dues would be used to buy him new clothes. So he expected the site (meaning us members) to buy him and provide him with full sets of new and clean clothes for those several days, a toothbrush, toothpaste, shaving cream, razors, shampoo, soap, deodorant, combs, brushes, etc, etc. One would hope that Broke Straight Boys does have some extras of those basic toiletries on hand for certain newer models especially, who are really down on their luck, sometimes going without much food at home and arriving with not much. But Johnny was one of the highest paid models of the site and had fairly steady work since he was in an exclusive contract. (How can you possibly know all of this about Johnny Forza? I can imagine only two ways: (1) from certain models you have talked to or otherwise communicated with - and if that were to be the case, that's gossip; or (2) you've gotten this from people in management - which would be bad form on its part - talking about employees current or former to any member. In any event, when you publish these kinds of assertions, you should feel obligated to footnote the source. You might say you are loathe to single out a model for criticism, but you sure did a hell of a job here and for the rest of your post.)

The BSB TV showed that the decision not to renew his exclusive contract was a very easy one for the staff. In fact the conversation management had with Johnny when he was sat down and told that he would be let go at the expiration of his contract, was actually recorded and aired on tv. The BSB TV also showed Johnny leaving the Broke Straight Boys house to be taken to the airport to fly home. As he stood in the doorway to leave, he had just the clothes on his back and looked like he could have just been going to the corner store to get a loaf of bread. One of the other models sarcastically asked him on his way out the door where his suitcase was. To which Johnny just chuckled and smiled.

Tyler White started off as a superb model. But then he went off the deep end into overacting and his ratings suddenly plummeted like a stone. There were also strong suspicions of substance abuse at the end of his time here. He also didn't endear himself any further to management when he came into the forum later and bashed employees of the site. I so hope that Tyler gets his life in order and finds happiness and contentment. He has the potential to be a really amazing man.

Vadim Black... The poor guy's a mess. He has often brought too much baggage to the table of the non-suitcase type. He got into the business at a very young age and didn't have the maturity and coping skills to deal with his life in general, let alone the responsibilities and social skills of holding down a job as a porn model. In the eyes of us members his popularity would just go up and down depending on how stable he was at the time. Some of his personal problems and issues unfortunately got played out rather publicly on the internet and here in the open forum. I always wish Vadim Black success and much happiness in life. In spite of everything...the good, the bad and the ugly, I still have love for him. Over his whole lifetime he has been through a LOT. I don't wish to go into a character assassination by re-hashing all of his dirty laundry. Much of it can still be found in the archives of older threads. But suffice to say that he had many issues while he was here.

Paul Canon was and still is one of the most beloved models of the site. But things got very messy and complicated towards the end of his time here. His relationship with management went south. Again, I'm not going to re-hash all the old news. Also again, much of the story played out in the open forum. I would LOVE to see Paul come back to the site again. However while it may not be impossible, unfortunately I don't see it as very likely.

 

[tampa24]

Really Stowe?

I watch BTS vids. Footnote: Sabrina talked about Johnny showing up with no luggage in a BTS vid. Don't remember which one. I'm not going to waste my time finding it. If you want to look through all of them to prove me wrong...then have at it. I don't have to waste my time going through archives trying to prove anything to you.

 

[stowe1]

Did you take reading comprehension in grade school? I did not say you were wrong; all I said was what you wrote should be footnoted because you wrote them as fact. So are you saying that every assertion you made about those guys in your post was made in bts scenes by someone else? which you can't remember when but your photographic memory remembers their content? Good for you.

And it has nothing to do with proving something to me - I could care less what you write per se. But unless you mean to gossip you should source the facts you write especially when they besmirch someone else.

 

[Sha]

I see that you had similar issues with Johnny that you did with Jimmy, Tampa. I was never a huge fan of Johnny's as his was not my ideal body type, but quite honestly none of the "issues" you mentioned bothered me or affected me in the least. And much like with Jimmy, I strongly believe that anything portrayed on the Broke Straight Boys-TV "Reality" show was contrived as they are on all TV "Reality" shows and if any of your issues were true like Broke Straight Boys having to buy him clothing or a toothbrush it is of no concern to me. My membership fee has not gone up and so how management spends their money is immaterial to me. That is between the model and management and not me.

Since I lived the show I can tell you that the only thing contrived during the filming was many of the activities. It isn't common for us to go out and play paint ball or have girls over to do a slip and slide. The "drama" that the director chose to show was real. That drama was SMALL in comparison to most of the things there was going on at that time. Even during the show there was a lot of drama that wasn't captured because the film crew wasn't with us 24 hours a day and they always seemed to wrap before the craziness started.

 

[mikeyank]

Since I lived the show I can tell you that the only thing contrived during the filming was many of the activities. It isn't common for us to go out and play paint ball or have girls over to do a slip and slide. The "drama" that the director chose to show was real. That drama was SMALL in comparison to most of the things there was going on at that time. Even during the show there was a lot of drama that wasn't captured because the film crew wasn't with us 24 hours a day and they always seemed to wrap before the craziness started.

Sha, I appreciate that you are willing to address the TV show as someone who was featured on the show and a part of production. I don't have a clear memory of Johnny Forza's participation during the show so I have no comment, but as you know I am very interested in Jimmy Johnson and have the following questions about his participation.

1) Jimmy's last Broke Straight Boys scene was released on March 8 2012. Why was he brought back to appear to a person unfamiliar with the site to seem as if he was a part of the current models including Johnny, Paul, Damien, Sergio, Adam, Cage Kafig, Kaden Alexander and the others? And wasn't he hired to participate on the project be the controversial so called "villain" that all reality shows seem to have?

2) Why was Jimmy's ex girlfriend and mother of his children invited to the mansion to have a dinner prepared for her and Jimmy, if not for the sake of the show? Is it common for the models to have friends and family members visit them during a shoot week and be invited to have dinner with the boys?

3) Was it merely a coincidence that you decided to shoot a porn scene "on the road" away from the normal studio during the trip to Las Vegas, and was it totally a surprise to you to get the phone call from Sabrina just as the "on the road" porn shoot was about to begin to inform you that Jimmy had an inconclusive test?

4) And when Jimmy was "sent packing" and he left the house, wasn't it made to appear that he had been a regular at the house at the time of his "dismissal" rather than someone who was hired specifically for the TV project?

These are the incidents that I am referring to as being "contrived". If you tell me that I am totally off base in my observations, I will have to believe you as you were there and I am just a "yenta fan". lol

 

[tampa24]

I did not say you were wrong; all I said was what you wrote should be footnoted because you wrote them as fact. So are you saying that every assertion you made about those guys in your post was made in bts scenes by someone else? which you can't remember when but your photographic memory remembers their content? Good for you.

And it has nothing to do with proving something to me - I could care less what you write per se. But unless you mean to gossip you should source the facts you write especially when they besmirch someone else.

My post was based on numerous forum conversations of the past, as well as BTS vids and sometimes public posts on Twitter.

You obviously care a great deal about what I write Stowe. Otherwise you would keep quiet and just ignore me. The fact that you don't or can't, proves that you do.

No. You didn't accuse me of being wrong. Tellingly so far at least you didn't try to refute anything I said. I practically invited anyone with a different opinion or a counter-narrative to jump in. Still do, of course. I said that I did not expect that my conclusions were going to be perfect or infallible, have a monopoly on truth, or be the final say. You accused me of reaching some or perhaps most of these opinions and conclusions of my post based on inside info. You all but bashed models, and the staff of the site in general, for being unprofessional and spreading inside gossip to me about co-workers and employees that I then used in my post. You accused the staff of the site and/or the models of acting unprofessionally and in very bad form. None of which is true. Talk about bad form on your part...

Then your logic was that my sin was not exactly in being wrong, but in not naming my sources. Having to footnote and source any post in here of any kind is a standard nobody else in the history of the site has ever been held to. Until you decided to make it up in your own mind and try to get me to jump through all kinds of hoops for you. I don't owe you anything. I don't have to source squat just to please you. As if that should be my life's goal! haha

 

[Repareur]

I miss many of the old guys also. I also enjoy the behind the scenes drama. I agree most of the new guys are not as hot as the above mentioned. Some of the cutest hottest guys are hot messes and it's true out there in the real world as well. I'm sure it's a real challenge to deal with all the personalities. Young guys in general don't have their act together then you add in sexual drama like straight guys having gay sex. If they are straight then that's a pretty big head trip, I suspect most are at least bi-curious but needless to say that's drama in its self. Then you get guys needing money or having bigger money to blow. Throw in drugs and partying which is ever present in young guys and I can't even imagine what Broke Straight Boys might be dealing with trying to manage all this. I'm sure the popular little gods like Vadim Black, Tyler etc. Turn into little devas and what else would one expect. Doesn't mean we don't like watching them though. I really like keeping up with the older ones. I love the fact Dakota is back hotter and more mature. I would love to see behind the scenes catch ups and new scenes with the old hot guys but I'm sure many of them have burned their bridges. I guess it's the nature of the beast, Vadim Black and others are out there with other studios and curious to me being a top. I guess it's too much to ask for some of these beauties to actually have their heads together. It would be nice though if some of them would kiss and make up and give us some more of their hot asses!

 

[Repareur]

Since I lived the show I can tell you that the only thing contrived during the filming was many of the activities. It isn't common for us to go out and play paint ball or have girls over to do a slip and slide. The "drama" that the director chose to show was real. That drama was SMALL in comparison to most of the things there was going on at that time. Even during the show there was a lot of drama that wasn't captured because the film crew wasn't with us 24 hours a day and they always seemed to wrap before the craziness started.

I'm sure that's true, can't even imagine all the craziness you guys deal with but I love that you share some of it with us! I wish there was more. Love the TV show and the behind the scenes stuff. Thank you! By the way I was curious about Jimmy showing up with these current guys also but I liked it. I've followed him through many sites. He is a real trip and was thrilled to see him bottom on another site even though it was pretty contrived.

 

[lpdude86]

Really Stowe?

I watch BTS vids. Footnote: Sabrina talked about Johnny showing up with no luggage in a BTS vid. Don't remember which one. I'm not going to waste my time finding it. If you want to look through all of them to prove me wrong...then have at it. I don't have to waste my time going through archives trying to prove anything to you.

MEOW!!!!!! hissssssssssssss!

 

[tampa24]

I miss many of the old guys also. I also enjoy the behind the scenes drama. I agree most of the new guys are not as hot as the above mentioned. Some of the cutest hottest guys are hot messes and it's true out there in the real world as well. I'm sure it's a real challenge to deal with all the personalities. Young guys in general don't have their act together then you add in sexual drama like straight guys having gay sex. If they are straight then that's a pretty big head trip, I suspect most are at least bi-curious but needless to say that's drama in its self. Then you get guys needing money or having bigger money to blow. Throw in drugs and partying which is ever present in young guys and I can't even imagine what Broke Straight Boys might be dealing with trying to manage all this. I'm sure the popular little gods like Vadim Black, Tyler etc. Turn into little devas and what else would one expect. Doesn't mean we don't like watching them though. I really like keeping up with the older ones. I love the fact Dakota is back hotter and more mature. I would love to see behind the scenes catch ups and new scenes with the old hot guys but I'm sure many of them have burned their bridges. I guess it's the nature of the beast, Vadim Black and others are out there with other studios and curious to me being a top. I guess it's too much to ask for some of these beauties to actually have their heads together. It would be nice though if some of them would kiss and make up and give us some more of their hot asses!

You have conceptualized the issues facing the studio here as well as many others, down to their finer points Repareur. I know now that at 18 I didn't have sh** for brains. lol Not that I was an idiot. Just as none of the models of the 18ish+ age are idiots. But probably about 95% of the time people of that age just don't have their heads or acts together. It's pretty much age appropriate that 18 to even 21 y/o's are struggling to figure out how to navigate the more challenging parts of the world, while simultaneously acting on impulse and auto-pilot as they chase the next shiny object they think will bring them comfort, status, pleasure or contentment. Some older adults are still that way. haha

As it applies to Broke Straight Boys models and young porn models everywhere, the rush of sudden overnight fame and attention, along with some money in their pockets can really mess with their heads. How can many of them resist getting very full of themselves and falling into temptations they don't have the self-control to ignore? Of course that doesn't mean that every instance will result in a train wreck. Thank God! Some of them can actually adjust as best as their current maturity level allows, handle it, and not go off the rails. As I think about it I guess it's a miracle that so many young guys go through this process and still come out of it well adjusted and with their sanity intact. Hooray for them!

For those who aren't coping with it as well or who otherwise temporarily get an overinflated ego and an unwarranted sense of self importance, while not condoning, ignoring or enabling their bad behavior, we do have to keep in mind the difficulties of their situation.

As you allude to also Repareur, there isn't a single model mentioned above who I would object to seeing come back to the site. Not one. I would love to see any or all of them here again. But I would want to see them come back very happy, very healthy, actually enjoying the work, and in some cases a bit more humble and down to earth.

 

[johnny]

Think Tyler White.. I remember when he first came on the site. He took our breath away. He was Beautiful. Everyone loved him.
He was Rated number one fast.Those that were not here then. He was Loved.
It went to his head. He fucked up. He got to big for his britches . He tried to be his buddy Kaden Alexander. Seemed management didn't stick with him.Or he pissed them off. Think burning your bridges. He Did.
Everyone started hating him. I don't think I can think of another model that fell from grace so fast.
When your 20 years old or so.Think that can fuck up your brain.And the funny thing about it. I think he was one of the only Straight boy's on the site.It was the same then.Loved and gone in a flash.
Just Saying. Love to know how he is doing? I hope well.I liked him. A little Bad boy. He was fun..
And he was a Beauty....

 

[thejudge]

I never cared for Tyler. Don't know why...... Just kinda turned me off from first time he opened his mouth. Same oddly with Jesse Avalon.

 

[mikeyank]

I loved Tyler White at the beginning, and loved his New England accent as well as his cute body and cocky attitude. He kind of epitomizes the young str8 guys that turn me on. I'm sorry it all ended so badly for him here. I also hope he is doing okay today as he seemed a bit messed up when I last saw him. But I sure thought he was "hawt" from the git go!!!!

 

[lpdude86]

I agree. Tyler was good looking and performed well at the beginning.

I enjoyed him at the beginning and then (insert the dun dun dun music here) he spoke. That was it, he turned me off.

He seemed to over act towards the end. I really liked it him at first but he became too fake for me.

 

[elyot1]

Been here for awhile and honestly have no idea why Tyler White left. I heard or heard that he and Ronan Kennedy walked out together. Is this true? I liked Tyler from the beginning. He was new to it all and struggling to deal with the fact that he did deep down enjoy having sex with other guys. It was interesting to watch. Then he got full of himself and thought he was the be all and end all of gay porn thinking he would forever be the 'Hot one." Think he felt threatened by some of the new 'hot guys' to the site. I'm sure he was hard to deal with. Became a diva that wasn't fun for management to deal with. He left or was fired, whichever, his porn career dried up. He went through a really rocky period. Now I think he realizes what he had and what he's lost. I for one would love to see him come back for maybe a trial period to see if he's still got whatever it was he had. I think he wants to. He must have really done something to really hurt and piss off Mark. Wish that could be healed.

As for Ronan Kennedy...he's sober now. Think he has got his priorities straight. Would LOVE to see him back. He and Tanner would make a dream team.

As the song goes "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got til it's gone?"

 

[mikeyank]

Been here for awhile and honestly have no idea why Tyler White left. I heard or heard that he and Ronan Kennedy walked out together. Is this true? I liked Tyler from the beginning. He was new to it all and struggling to deal with the fact that he did deep down enjoy having sex with other guys. It was interesting to watch. Then he got full of himself and thought he was the be all and end all of gay porn thinking he would forever be the 'Hot one." Think he felt threatened by some of the new 'hot guys' to the site. I'm sure he was hard to deal with. Became a diva that wasn't fun for management to deal with. He left or was fired, whichever, his porn career dried up. He went through a really rocky period. Now I think he realizes what he had and what he's lost. I for one would love to see him come back for maybe a trial period to see if he's still got whatever it was he had. I think he wants to. He must have really done something to really hurt and piss off Mark. Wish that could be healed.

As for Ronan Kennedy...he's sober now. Think he has got his priorities straight. Would LOVE to see him back. He and Tanner would make a dream team.

As the song goes "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got til it's gone?"

Great post Elyot! That is exactly how I saw the Tyler White story too, a classic rags to riches to rags story and a new comeback would be very cool.

 

[johnny]

Been here for awhile and honestly have no idea why Tyler White left. I heard or heard that he and Ronan Kennedy walked out together. Is this true? I liked Tyler from the beginning. He was new to it all and struggling to deal with the fact that he did deep down enjoy having sex with other guys. It was interesting to watch. Then he got full of himself and thought he was the be all and end all of gay porn thinking he would forever be the 'Hot one." Think he felt threatened by some of the new 'hot guys' to the site. I'm sure he was hard to deal with. Became a diva that wasn't fun for management to deal with. He left or was fired, whichever, his porn career dried up. He went through a really rocky period. Now I think he realizes what he had and what he's lost. I for one would love to see him come back for maybe a trial period to see if he's still got whatever it was he had. I think he wants to. He must have really done something to really hurt and piss off Mark. Wish that could be healed.

As for Ronan Kennedy...he's sober now. Think he has got his priorities straight. Would LOVE to see him back. He and Tanner would make a dream team.

As the song goes "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got til it's gone?"

Great post Elyot! That is exactly how I saw the Tyler White story too, a classic rags to riches to rags story and a new comeback would be very cool.

Elyot1...
I always love your posts . Well most the time.lol But I also would Love seeing Tyler back.He did become a Diva or a little punk.
But he was such a Beautiful Boy. Maybe humble now? And he can bring Ronan Kennedy back with him.
Both Boy's really had "IT" and were gone before there time.What say Broke Straight Boys.Second Chance???

 

[peterh6308]

Tyler was a cutie when he was here, but I think he's changed to much for this type of work? Also have seen pics of him in the last few months and I like tats but he's gone way overboard....

 

[johnny]

Tyler was a cutie when he was here, but I think he's changed to much for this type of work? Also have seen pics of him in the last few months and I like tats but he's gone way overboard....

.. Can't find him on twitter or Facebook any more,,,,, Sad about the tats. He Had such pretty skin...