Goodbye spencer Todd

[glenn323]

It seems really odd that so many of us, myself included, got angry at Spencer even though the name of this site is Broke Straight Boys. It's billed as a site where real straight boys are going to be embarrassed in gay situations. This is precisely what we got with this scene. I guess many people here really just want the same ole gay porn with gay actors who are just claiming to be straight, even if we don't realize it.

 

[mikeyank]

It seems really odd that so many of us, myself included, got angry at Spencer even though the name of this site is Broke Straight Boys. It's billed as a site where real straight boys are going to be embarrassed in gay situations. This is precisely what we got with this scene. I guess many people here really just want the same ole gay porn with gay actors who are just claiming to be straight, even if we don't realize it.

That is exactly the way I feel Glenn. I am always surprised at the intensity of the reaction by some members of the forum to the occasional appearance of a believably straight guy here, acting the way a true straight guy might act in his first gay sex scene.

 

[JLipps4u]

I liked Spencer and I won't mind seeing him again, if/when he accepts what he is doing and relaxes a bit more. If he truly was angry, I sense that his anger was at himself, for allowing himself to get into this situation. I am not surprised at all. I have had straight guys get up and leave mid blowjob before, and they were not angry with me, but rather with themselves. Hell, I had one guy come to me twice and pull this stunt. When he called me the third time, I kindly refused him! As people say, "it's all good."

 

[erikthbod]

That is exactly the way I feel Glenn. I am always surprised at the intensity of the reaction by some members of the forum to the occasional appearance of a believably straight guy here, acting the way a true straight guy might act in his first gay sex scene.

I also agree... I have noticed that lately alot of subscribers tend to like the more skinny obiviously less str8 acting guys. That's just not why I pay for this site. I am a big fan of Jason... and I can also enjoy guys like Logan from Broke Straight Boys 1 and so did alot of others. Disel always came across very str8 and he bacame a big fan fav. I think some people have forgotten that the site is Broke Straight Boys We pay to see the Str8 guys on here.

 

[BSB Jason]

I was actually rather surprised to find so much conflict with this video. Keeping in mind that I have not watched it and my perspective while filming is a bit different lol. First of all I would never conceive an idea to speak ill of a person that I work with. In general hhe was an "all right" kind of guy to be around. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice. I did find it comical that someone referred to him as "Big Red" as that’s also what I had nicknamed him that week. In all interactions with him... my perception would be that he was straight. I myself am pretty good at pickin them out as well and I would have bet the farm on him being straight! HOWEVER... something else I thought was funny EVERYONE seemed to notice... He was very skilled at maintaining an erection. While filming at one point the thought going through my head is "Wow I’ve never seen someone keep a hard on as easily and consistently as this kid" I mean not even the gay models I’ve worked with stay hard like that. I don’t stay hard like that.

He was a little weird ... but I feel we all have the quality somewhere. He wasnt a person that stood out or I would try to be friends with but I don’t dislike him. We just have two separate paths of interest. I don’t believe he was a gay basher or hater in anyway. In person he never really made me feel uncomfortable.

Over all I would say that I didn’t really enjoy working with him but he certainly wasn’t my least favorite. I’ve been in far worse situations... I just wasn’t at all attracted to him in any possible way, but then again I suppose that’s kind of the point lol.

I do think it’s fair to assume there is a lot of emotion and embarrassment here. He was fairly worried during the week about where this could be posted and publicity things. He did have a rough idea of what was going to happen before going into it. He was never offered any additional money or asked to act how he did. So... that was either pro bono and unsolicited acting or real emotion.

Furthermore it should be touched on that in striving to be one of the top porn sites online, Broke Straight Boys has an ever expanding, diverse and cultured audience. Some things are for some people, but not everything is for everyone. It is regrettable to hear of such insult and disrespect perceived by our members. This was not nearly anyone’s intention and I think I can speak for everyone when I apologize for that. This is a buzzing thread that has not gone unnoticed. By neither the fans, the models nor the production staff. I’m sure a lesson somewhere will be learned here.

As most of you know I don’t watch the videos. But from what I gather as a general consensus is it’s not well received. In all reality and I hope it comes with no offense... that was just another day at the office so to speak. I didn’t see what you saw and couldn’t have been offended the same. But I’m sure there’s someone somewhere that enjoyed it. Perhaps he needs broken in more ... perhaps he shouldnt come back... I have no opinion either way and would agree with both options. But I kind of think the crowd has spoken on this one and it's pretty hard to argue with that !
Ive been asked a few times in a few places to explain my thoughts on the scene.. and I hope that I was able to do that here. If not please get back to me and I will try to be more precise

 

[BSB Jason]

Okay, sooooo ... I was closing all my windows and logging out and such. Bam there it is the video of which I just got done reading about. So I decided to watch it. I didnt watch all of it. I didnt need to! In fact I got about 6:48 into when I was over it. Again I say... I had a much different perspective. I can see why everyone is so upset.

 

[mikeyank]

I was actually rather surprised to find so much conflict with this video. Keeping in mind that I have not watched it and my perspective while filming is a bit different lol. First of all I would never conceive an idea to speak ill of a person that I work with. In general hhe was an "all right" kind of guy to be around. Personally he wouldn’t be my first choice. I did find it comical that someone referred to him as "Big Red" as that’s also what I had nicknamed him that week. In all interactions with him... my perception would be that he was straight. I myself am pretty good at pickin them out as well and I would have bet the farm on him being straight! HOWEVER... something else I thought was funny EVERYONE seemed to notice... He was very skilled at maintaining an erection. While filming at one point the thought going through my head is "Wow I’ve never seen someone keep a hard on as easily and consistently as this kid" I mean not even the gay models I’ve worked with stay hard like that. I don’t stay hard like that.

He was a little weird ... but I feel we all have the quality somewhere. He wasnt a person that stood out or I would try to be friends with but I don’t dislike him. We just have two separate paths of interest. I don’t believe he was a gay basher or hater in anyway. In person he never really made me feel uncomfortable.

Over all I would say that I didn’t really enjoy working with him but he certainly wasn’t my least favorite. I’ve been in far worse situations... I just wasn’t at all attracted to him in any possible way, but then again I suppose that’s kind of the point lol.

I do think it’s fair to assume there is a lot of emotion and embarrassment here. He was fairly worried during the week about where this could be posted and publicity things. He did have a rough idea of what was going to happen before going into it. He was never offered any additional money or asked to act how he did. So... that was either pro bono and unsolicited acting or real emotion.

Furthermore it should be touched on that in striving to be one of the top porn sites online, Broke Straight Boys has an ever expanding, diverse and cultured audience. Some things are for some people, but not everything is for everyone. It is regrettable to hear of such insult and disrespect perceived by our members. This was not nearly anyone’s intention and I think I can speak for everyone when I apologize for that. This is a buzzing thread that has not gone unnoticed. By neither the fans, the models nor the production staff. I’m sure a lesson somewhere will be learned here.

As most of you know I don’t watch the videos. But from what I gather as a general consensus is it’s not well received. In all reality and I hope it comes with no offense... that was just another day at the office so to speak. I didn’t see what you saw and couldn’t have been offended the same. But I’m sure there’s someone somewhere that enjoyed it. Perhaps he needs broken in more ... perhaps he shouldnt come back... I have no opinion either way and would agree with both options. But I kind of think the crowd has spoken on this one and it's pretty hard to argue with that !
Ive been asked a few times in a few places to explain my thoughts on the scene.. and I hope that I was able to do that here. If not please get back to me and I will try to be more precise

Thank you so much Jason, for your perspective on this scene, as you were the other actor working with Spencer, you would certainly be the only one who could comment on what it was like to work with him, and as you said,:

I was actually rather surprised to find so much conflict with this video. Keeping in mind that I have not watched it and my perspective while filming is a bit different lol.

AND:

In all reality and I hope it comes with no offense... that was just another day at the office so to speak. I didn’t see what you saw and couldn’t have been offended the same. But I’m sure there’s someone somewhere that enjoyed it.


I do so appreciate your responding to my request to comment on the scene, as particularly early on in this thread, some members thought that Spencer acted like a "fag hater", with his fists balled up ready to pounce, and people were feeling so sorry for you, and actually said that they were worried about your safety.

And you are correct that some members of this site did enjoy watching a straight guy with a great body, have his ass eaten and his dick sucked, while complaining, but his beautiful hard cock belied his protests.

As a long time model here, who recently joined in with us on the forum, I would like to inform you that this type of reaction to a true straight guy, who acts the way straight guys might truly act in this kind of circumstance is not a new phenomenon on the forum. Long time members remember the forum controversies over scenes with Mike R and Jordan when they double teamed two different gay partners in three some's, Torin and Steven in their scene with pretty gay boy Aiden, and recent members will of course remember very well the more recent controversies over Jamie protesting doing "gay shit", and everyone remembers the most controversial straight model of BSB2. Jimmy.

When you said, :

Furthermore it should be touched on that in striving to be one of the top porn sites online, Broke Straight Boys has an ever expanding, diverse and cultured audience.

I would like to point out that as a long time member of the forum, I have noted many times that Broke Straight Boys has a varied audience, including folks like me who were and still are attracted to the basic core concept of the site, that being straight guys who are broke and come here strictly for the money. Spencer is a perfect example of that type of model. But as you say Jason, there is an increasing segment of membership who are more "diverse and cultured", and Clay and Mark have to produce different kind of scenes to cater to the varied tastes of the wide audience here.

But I'm sure glad to read you say that this scene was overall just another day in the office for you, and you never felt threatened or intimidated by your partner in any way. And thank you for being here to perform for us, and to interact with us here, and explain the reality of what it is like to act in the scenes.

Everyone here has as much right as anyone else to comment on what they enjoy and dislike here. But some members do go overboard in taking their own preconceived notions into these scenes, and projecting things on the models which are far fetched or untrue.

Thank you Jason for the reality check. And thank you for the friendship request as well. I am honored to be able to call you my friend. Please continue to visit us here in forumland whenever you have the opportunity. Jason Rules!!!

 

[chase3398]

Jason, Thank you for your input and honesty. I can fully understand why you bailed out in less than seven minutes. However, as you have read here, there is nothing but praise for you and your efforts in this one. You put so much in perspective for us and I am sure that the members appreciate you speaking up. So, thank you again and let's take that "another day at the office", put it behind us and look forward to seeing you again soon. You are an amazing young man and are much appreciated here..just look at the favorites on the Broke Straight Boys home page and you know how the members feel about you..It's all good !!

 

[lpdude86]

Jason:
Thank you very much for your perspective, I really appreciate it. I also appreciate your not bashing Spencer Todd, but rather giving your professional opinion.
Like you said, not everything is for everyone. I have said that before about other videos. There was a model on the old Broke Straight Boys that was very rude and almost abusive towards the others in his scenes, I made the mistake of mentioning it on the forum and received many personal messages telling me not to do that, he was the king of the mountain so to speak. I did not bash him in any way I just mentioned that he was rude, obnoxious and disrespectful to the others, The not so nice persona messages made me stay away for a while.
I believe there is good in everyone and that everyone has a purpose in life. Doing gay porn doesn't seem to be the thing for Spencer Todd.
That's my final thought.

 

[Youngandconfused22]

I haven't actually watched this scene cause i don't feel like a model like spencer is a good fit for Broke Straight Boys Yes he is straight but you have to open minded more that anything look at Blake. Blake is clearly straight but he's not a douchebag like spencer and other models i won't mention. Jason is awesome and I will always be a fan. I hope Jason gets paired with blake soon. Yum. Spencer and jimmy would be best friends their personalitys are pretty close.

 

[Swampyankee]

Dear JohnnyG919,

I have to go with my gut and observing all the shades of red I made note of in my original posting on Spencer, I feel the intensity he showed is hard to feign. Spencer over-reactions may have been of his own making, but when you are so overwhelmed feeling trapped with a situation not to one's liking, thinking logically about how he found himself in front of a camera may not have been his first reaction, whereas blaming others is much more likely.

From my perspective, Spencer seemed to exhibit feeling trapped either by extreme humiliation or a bad case of 'sellers remorse' to have found himself in this most vulnerable and precarious position while being filmed. It is apparent it was against his straight nature, even while its perversity may have oddly contribituted to the maintaining of Spencer's prominent erection as a freakier element of this rarified moment. It matters little whether he douched beforehand or not. It could have merely represented "going through the motions" at the time. But actually facing up to the stark realities of doing internet-bound gay porn FOR REAL may have just hit him when arriving on the set before the actual filming began. He may have been worrying about being identified by some stranger as that "questionably straight guy on Broke Straight Boys doing gay-for-pay sex". He may have been having self-doubts all along the way but, once on the plane, he was past the "point-of-no-return" now feeling even more compelled to go through with the filming afterall because of the money Broke Straight Boys had already spent on getting him to the site.

While none of us have exclusive rights to the thoughts that were going through his mind at the time, I find it much more likely to be a case of second thoughts advancing to "cold feet" angrily resenting he agreed to do this just for money vs. a deliberate "Academy Award level acting job" gone awry.

We may never know the real answer, but at least this "cold feet" explaination seems to match up more closely with Mark's experience with Spencer behind the scenes before and after the shoot.

Again, hands down, my complete admiration goes out to Jason for dealing so skillfully with this most unhappy (except for his erect penis) camper and then taking Spencer's hot load to Jason's mouth and nose. Jason is not only beautiful, has the best of attitudes possible, and is accomplished sexually, he is a "class act" Broke Straight Boys is lucky to have as a regular model. I hope to be seeing much more of sweet Jason in the future but with more compliant partners! PLEASE!!!



Sincerely appreciating Jason's patience through it all,



Stimpy

I, too, think you have hit the nail on the head with this scene. I'm in the minority I guess, but would welcome another scene from Spencer Todd. I just like straight boys.
Jason is always a charmer and deserves an award as a top performer of Broke Straight Boys

 

[mikeyank]

I, too, think you have hit the nail on the head with this scene. I'm in the minority I guess, but would welcome another scene from Spencer Todd. I just like straight boys.
Jason is always a charmer and deserves an award as a top performer of Broke Straight Boys

You may indeed be in the minority of those who post on this board Swampyankee, but it has been pointed out by Scorpio, among others that the vast majority of membership of this site stay away from the message boards.

I too "just like straight boys", and enjoy watching a guy like Spencer. As Jimmy used to tell us when he was posting, that he is one of the few genuine straight guys here, and from watching Spencer, and reading Jason's wonderful analysis of shooting the scene, Spencer is indeed a true straight guy, and at the end of the day, that is what I am paying my monthly membership fee to see. We see fewer and fewer, but I am patient, and I understand that many other member's are not here for that core type of scene, but I too look forward to the return of Spencer Todd.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

You may indeed be in the minority of those who post on this board Swampyankee, but it has been pointed out by Scorpio, among others that the vast majority of membership of this site stay away from the message boards.

I too "just like straight boys", and enjoy watching a guy like Spencer. As Jimmy used to tell us when he was posting, that he is one of the few genuine straight guys here, and from watching Spencer, and reading Jason's wonderful analysis of shooting the scene, Spencer is indeed a true straight guy, and at the end of the day, that is what I am paying my monthly membership fee to see. We see fewer and fewer, but I am patient, and I understand that many other member's are not here for that core type of scene, but I too look forward to the return of Spencer Todd.

But Mikey, you can be a person that is into straight guys, and straight guy attitude..........and not find that particular guy appealing. I realize that Spencer and Jimmy look nothing alike, but I find neither one of them cute, hot, or sexy..........so I just see the attitude.

 

[tampa24]

Okay, sooooo ... I was closing all my windows and logging out and such. Bam there it is the video of which I just got done reading about. So I decided to watch it. I didnt watch all of it. I didnt need to! In fact I got about 6:48 into when I was over it. Again I say... I had a much different perspective. I can see why everyone is so upset.

Thank you so much Jason for sharing your thoughts on what the scene was like to shoot. It obviously gives a different perspective as to what Spencer was going through at the time. Editing can play a huge role in how a video comes across to an audience. I'm not saying that this vid was poorly edited. I think it gave us a fairly accurate picture of what was going on. Just that even the models in the scenes don't know necessarily what will be included and what won't. Then considering that you have memories of the rehearsal shoot and then the actual filming. As several weeks go by, the memories will no doubt tend to blur as to how well the edited video will turn out.

It seemed that Spencer was more concerned about convincing any friends or acquaintances who might see this of how straight he is and how much he is hating the whole thing. Never mind the fact that he is being paid lots of money and having lots of money spent on him in food, travel, lodging and so on. He personally volunteered for this. He wasn't forcibly drafted.

The truth was when you started rimming him he about jumped out of his skin because he was overcome with the intensity of how good it felt. But then of course he has to pretend like he hated it. He ruined what should have been a high point of the vid further by feeling obligated to make snide remarks to you, like how good did his ass taste to you and so on. It makes those of us in here who consider ourselves to be big fans of yours Jason to resent him for talking to you like that. It hardly makes for an erotic, erection inducing scene worth paying money to see.

It's especially annoying when we have a great model willing to rim (which obviously is not one of the more pleasant sex acts to perform for many people) and then the receiving model either doesn't like it or react to it...or pretends to hate it. It's just a waste of our time and money and the time and effort of the model performing the rimming. Let alone the time and expense of all the Broke Straight Boys staff being paid to try to make something watchable out of a scene with an uncooperative model.

All this doesn't mean we don't want truly straight models. Or that Broke Straight Boys should just hire gay and bi models who pretend to be straight. It's just a shame that Spencer came across so poorly in his first real vid.

 

[mikeyank]

But Mikey, you can be a person that is into straight guys, and straight guy attitude..........and not find that particular guy appealing. I realize that Spencer and Jimmy look nothing alike, but I find neither one of them cute, hot, or sexy..........so I just see the attitude.

Ms. K, I do not believe that Spencer's poor reviews in this thread are based on his looks. In fact he was highly complemented after his solo based on his body and his cock. I actually am not usually into redheads, and thought the solo was so so. But I truly believe it is the attitude that is the big turn off to those who are inclined to dislike what used to be referred to as "rough trade", while other's find that type highly erotic.

I truly believe that the negativity shown towards Spencer and Jimmy, have everything to do with their attitude, and little to do with their looks.

 

[glenn323]

I don't understand how viewers can watch this video and come away thinking Spencer is homophobic. He was definitely feeling or acting extremely embarrassed and uncomfortable to be in a sexual situation with another man, but that's not the same thing as homophobia. I didn't come away with the feeling that Spencer is anti-gay or a potential gay basher. He's probably one of the few real straight guys to appear on this site, and he gave the authentic performance a real Broke Straight Boys would give, yet he's getting rejected for it.

 

[Buckeye1]

Ms. K, I do not believe that Spencer's poor reviews in this thread are based on his looks. In fact he was highly complemented after his solo based on his body and his cock. I actually am not usually into redheads, and thought the solo was so so. But I truly believe it is the attitude that is the big turn off to those who are inclined to dislike what used to be referred to as "rough trade", while other's find that type highly erotic.

I truly believe that the negativity shown towards Spencer and Jimmy, have everything to do with their attitude, and little to do with their looks.

I agree with you 100%, Mike. Looks, for the most part, are not the problem here. The posts from his solo scene prove that. For me it was the never-ending straight guy attitude. If he had given us his attitude at the beginning of the scene to qualify himself straight and then settled down and just enjoyed the expert blow/rim job that Justin was giving him, this may have been a hot scene. His apparent distaste and facial contortions just do not make for a sexy scene to me.

As far as comparing him to Jimmy, Jimmy did settle down (somewhat)...maybe Spencer can too. For the people who enjoyed this scene, I now hope he does return...you pay your dues the same as I do. There are probably a lot more scenes coming down the pipeline which are more to my liking.

 

[BlakeBennet]

I don't understand how viewers can watch this video and come away thinking Spencer is homophobic. He was definitely feeling or acting extremely embarrassed and uncomfortable to be in a sexual situation with another man, but that's not the same thing as homophobia. I didn't come away with the feeling that Spencer is anti-gay or a potential gay basher. He's probably one of the few real straight guys to appear on this site, and he gave the authentic performance a real Broke Straight Boys would give, yet he's getting rejected for it.

Im gunna have to correct you on this one.. All of the guys except for A FEW exceptions are in fact straight. I thought that i was going to be one of the only straight guys, but believe it or not, they really are, ty, denver, connor, all these guys i got to hang out with on a level and talked about relationships. spencer isnt homophobic, otherwise he wouldnt have been there, he is just uncomfortable with his sexuality. im sure he will warm up, he still went trough it, and im sure after seeing the check.. lol well im sure he will want to come back. lol

 

[glenn323]

Well, Blake, I guess we'll just have to have separate opinions about the sexuality issue. But that's cool. I still love ya.

 

[erikthbod]

I, like everyone else want to thank Jason for his post.... once again Jason is showing us what a class act he really is. Thanks Jason for being you.
Erik