Goodbye spencer Todd

[jstwicked]

Ok. I have to agree with SO many things here. But, I think everyone has said Them already. See ya Spencer Todd.
All I wanted to add was.....Jason......what a fucking pro. Always the guy trying to put everyone at ease. This dude wasn't having it and you kept your part of the deal. KUDOS! (with the roar of applause)
~Jstwicked

 

[Blue011]

I Thought The Scene Was OK

It seems the peanut gallery is out in force with another boo bird attack.

The critics do not speak for me (a long time member) and I do not let anyone lump me into a group of people who obviously do not know how difficult and luck driven it is to get good scenes for BSB1 or BSB2.

This reminds me of an old joke from the Catskills resort area:

1st Lady: "The food here is terrible."

2nd Lady: "Yes, and such small portions."

There is just too much snark on the message boards and it is why I seldom participate. It is so easy to emphasize the negative and ignore the over all trends. There are some members that I ignore out of hand because there is never a balanced word in their posts.

But, it is a free country, sort of.

Just my point of view from someone who has watching this site for over 4 years.

(Oh, and my name does not imply any connection to BlueMedia. Just a longtime email address used for sensitive topics.)

 

[chase3398]

I almost hate to begin typing here since the uproar seems to be at its peak. But, like so many, I think Jason deserves every bit of credit he can possibly get for an outstanding effort to make this scene work. Jason, I hope your operation is a complete success and that your return is as soon as you feel up to it. As for Spencer..well, there are interesting comments both pro and con. My guess is that he knew well in advance what was going on since there is usually a photo shoot prior to the scene. Perhaps his protests and attitude were part of the plan..who knows. Regardless, if he was faking it or it was real, he carried it way to far. I happen to like Jimmy Johnson, but this guy, I think, would make even those who dislike Jimmy praise his efforts if the two were compared. If it was all very real, I am really surprised that management would even post the scene. I would have trashed it all, taken the loss and moved on. But, something tells me there might be more to the story than meets the eye. I guess we'll find out if or when Spencer Todd appears again. Regardless of all of our speculation, it seems most here were very disappointed in this one so let's look forward to the next scene in hopes that it will be up to the usual Broke Straight Boys standards.

 

[headsuck69]

I have to agree with everyone saying goodbye to spencer i have been watching Broke Straight Boys sense the beginning and there has never been a guy be this mean in a shot. I am not that negative about the Models... shit Ive been defending all the hate about Jimmy because at less he is trying be spencer was the worst show i had ever seen i am deleting my download and giving the show a 2 out of 5 because at less Jason wasn't bad

 

[glenn323]

After watching the video a couple more times, I believe Spencer was putting on a really good act. He played the disgusted straight guy to the hilt. Let's face it, anybody who's that repulsed by gay sex acts would NEVER show up at a gay porn studio. It's all an act DESIGNED to get us all riled up--and it worked. It's called hype. The producer knows what he's doing. Personally, I think the scene is pretty hot. I think the logical next stop for Spencer is to get that hairy hole plowed by Jimmy. Now THAT would be smokin' hot.

 

[Frontier]

Yeah, there is no where for someone that obviously showing such rude disinterest especially the money he was being paid. Clay must have been trying to see how far he could push this dude knowing he's not going to call again. If he does tell him they shoot straight porn down the street for a lot less money.

 

[stowe1]

Cynically speaking ...

...I didn't buy this scene for a minute. This was all an act because of my following opinions:

1. Mark is an astute business man. Unless the models pay their own airfare, he is not going to pay a model to fly across the country unless he knows he is going to get his money's worth.

2. Rimming was involved so there had to be some douching done ahead of time. Thus, Spencer had to know what was going to happen.

3. Spencer was probably told to act the reluctant straight boy and he took it too far - he's just not a very good actor.

Next month will be a year since I joined Broke Straight Boys It was shortly after the start of Broke Straight Boys-2.0. I had joined after going through two trial memberships and my decision was based on the hot guys in Broke Straight Boys 1 primarily. I had to overcome some things I didn't like about Broke Straight Boys-1, i.e. the "chatty cathy-ness of David; the comments he would interject at critical points of the scene; his assumption that if a guy is gay he is a bottom or if he is bi he automatically knows how to give the best blowjobs and is comfortable bottoming; his too lenghty pre-scene interviews; and the discussion of money which I felt should have been taken care of off camera. I was drawn to the site because the name reflected much of my sexual history as a married closeted gay man for 14 years prior to my coming out, i.e. sex with mostly straight or bi guys as hustlers, trade, or escorts. And let's face it, Broke Straight Boys is a website based on that scenario, paying straight or bi guys money for having sex with other men. In my perfect world, the sex would be between a straightie and a gay guy because that's what it was for me and more importantly, the premise of paying two broke straight guys to have sex with one another just is less plausible.

Here's what my routine with a hustler would be: I drive around to the hustler spots, see who's out for the evening, and choose someone based on his look as to what I thought he would be into (e.g. rough looking for rought sex, more gentle looking for more romantic sex) and what I was looking for that particular night. After establishing I wasn't a cop, I'd as the customer or john would tell him what I was looking for and he'd say yea or nay. If it was nay, I'd move on. If it was yea, then we'd negotiate the price and then get a room and that was that. So let's apply this to this scene.

In his solo scene, Spencer said he had to fly across the country, so it is safe to assume that he lives out west. So Clay presumedly calls him and says he wanted him to do a scene involving jerking off in the presence of another guy. Spencer had to have said yes since I can't believe they would pay to fly him across the country without knowing they were going to get what they were going to pay for. As far as the massage, dick sucking, and rimming go, I think all that was pre-arranged as stated above and I think Spencer just got carried away with the reluctant straight routine.

And I really did not like the whole money bidding routine. It recalled one of the things I disliked about Broke Straight Boys-1 and the early days of Broke Straight Boys-2. I truly hope that is not the direction of what I call Broke Straight Boys-2.5. If it is then my days are numbered.

But all of this is just speculation based on my history and how that affected what I did and how I view things. None of us knows what really went on behind closed doors with this scene and the negotiations surrounding it. My view is I don't really care as long as peripheral things don't distract from the heat of the scene, and that the sex is hot. And hot it was not in this scene. So I didn't like it. I gave it a 4 only in recognition of my man from the 'Burgh, Jason. If Spencer weren't acting, then I'm sure Jason would liked to have bitten his dick off. But being the consummate pro he is, Jason took it in stride with good humor. And, Clay, if Spencer wasn't acting and he was that much of an asshole, then Jason should get extra pay for not just putting up with him, but doing so cheerfully, and doing his exceptional blowjob work.


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[mikeyank]

I've been reading this thread at various times for the last 12 hours and had a preconceived notion of what to expect from the rather "spirited" discussion going on, from both points of view.

I now watched it, and much is what I expected. It is a case of play acting, and the young man who plays the role of "Spencer Todd" is not an actor of Shakespearian quality, but this is clear a little play that was being acted out.

As Stowe pointed out, Spencer would not have cleaned his ass out, if he didn't know that he was going to be rimmed, and as was also pointed out, they do a dry run, (so to speak) and shoot the stills prior to shooting the scene, so nothing was unexpected.

I would also ask the member's not to get hung up about the amounts of money being bantered about on screen. It is just a play. The one thing that made this different than I had expected was unfortunately Spencer's overacting. It was a typical opening in the early days of BSB1, for a model to feign indignation, and use similar facial expressions of disgust during the opening banter, and during the initial sexual contact. Wasn't there a scene where David gave the straight boy a blindfold to wear, so he didn't know it was a dude on his dick?

The problem with this scene, in my opinion, is that Spencer did not know when to stop the feigned disgusted expressions on his face, and the pseudo homophobic comments. It's more interesting when the so called straight boy starts to discover how fucking good it feels to have his dick sucked or to fuck a guy's ass, and he drops all the acting and shows us his natural sexual pleasure.

Spencer's hard cock, and his playful joking with Jason and Clay throughout the scene, showed me that there was no real dislike for either Jason or Clay. In fact I found myself laughing at some of the dialog, like when Clay was convincing Spencer to get rimmed, and Spencer said, "How much more money will you pay me"? and Clay answered, "Show me your hole first". That made me laugh out loud.

I didn't find the scene terribly erotic, as Spencer is not the type of guy that really turns me on. I am not sexually attracted to redheads. But the final few minutes with Jason on his knees sucking Spencer's magnificent rock hard cock was erotic, as Spencer finally dropped the act, and was enjoying the blowjob. And Jason taking his load was hot too.

It was not a great erotic scene for me, but it is only make believe, and I totally expect Spencer Todd back, as they gave him two names, and when they name a model as Austin Grant, Tyler Evans Mike Robbins, or Jimmy Johnson, he is usually going to stick around a while.

These are my opinions of this scene, and I'm sure some will totally disagree with me, and tell me that just because I've been here "forever", I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and that is true. This is just my opinion, based on being here "forever".

 

[erikthbod]

Wow! That was totally unexpected. And not in a good way.

I think that Erikthbod will feel so bad for Jason, that he will volunteer to fly out to Florida and be in Jason's next scene..........

Ms. Kianna... I would not have to feel bad for Jason to volunteer... hell, I would volunteer to do anythin-anytime-anywhere for Jason. He is always the best.
I agree with alot of people on here that I think it was an act. I will venture to bet that those of you who believe the scene was totally real also believe the WWF is real too.... lmao !!!!!!!!!
As the Great P. T. Barnum said,"there is a sucker born every minute".
..... and speaking of suckers... Jason you are once again the king and the very best of BSB2. Love ya Jason and hope all goes well with the surgery.
Erik

 

[USARick2]

I agree with everyone. Only difference, Had I been management, i would have never released the video period.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

I agree with everyone. Only difference, Had I been management, i would have never released the video period.

So you mean to tell me after spending thousands of dollars on a scene you wouldn't release it???? (scratches head)

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

I met this guy he is really really straight. He was so freaked out and we really had to calm him down before even talking about doing a scene with him. It is really hard to tell sometimes who is going to be good and who isn't.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

I met this guy he is really really straight. He was so freaked out and we really had to calm him down before even talking about doing a scene with him. It is really hard to tell sometimes who is going to be good and who isn't.

 

[killacam]

I met this guy he is really really straight. He was so freaked out and we really had to calm him down before even talking about doing a scene with him. It is really hard to tell sometimes who is going to be good and who isn't.

It wasn't all that bad and we do appreciate his straightness, that is what we pay for. Its all good thanks for the show.

 

[JLipps4u]

So you mean to tell me after spending thousands of dollars on a scene you wouldn't release it???? (scratches head)

LOL. That is easy to say when its not your money!

 

[Top4bottom]

Thanks Mike btw I am alos a yankee fan as I am originally from the Bronx

 

[stowe1]

...I would also ask the member's not to get hung up about the amounts of money being bantered about on screen. It is just a play. The one thing that made this different than I had expected was unfortunately Spencer's overacting. It was a typical opening in the early days of BSB1, for a model to feign indignation, and use similar facial expressions of disgust during the opening banter, and during the initial sexual contact. Wasn't there a scene where David gave the straight boy a blindfold to wear, so he didn't know it was a dude on his dick?


I'm not really hung up on the money thing, mikey, it is just that I prefer to have that settled outside the scene. I didn't like all the money talk in Broke Straight Boys-1 and at the beginning of Broke Straight Boys-2 it was even worse with money being thrown around, cummed on, etc. I was happy when all that stopped. I guess it goes back to my days with hustlers when the money was settled first and that was it. And you're right about the scene in Broke Straight Boys-1 with the blindfold.



The problem with this scene, in my opinion, is that Spencer did not know when to stop the feigned disgusted expressions on his face, and the pseudo homophobic comments. It's more interesting when the so called straight boy starts to discover how fucking good it feels to have his dick sucked or to fuck a guy's ass, and he drops all the acting and shows us his natural sexual pleasure.


I agree 100% with you here, mikey. I can remember that happening to me with new hustlers back in the day. Seeing that transformation was the second best thing about those encounters with newly-minted hustlers. And that is why I would like the scenes here to be between a straight guy and a gay or bi guy - it's just a more plausible scenario than two straight guys. And in all my dealings with hustlers, trade, and escorts over many years in a variety of cities, it only happened thrice that the hustler couldn't perform.



Spencer's hard cock, and his playful joking with Jason and Clay throughout the scene, showed me that there was no real dislike for either Jason or Clay. In fact I found myself laughing at some of the dialog, like when Clay was convincing Spencer to get rimmed, and Spencer said, "How much more money will you pay me"? and Clay answered, "Show me your hole first". That made me laugh out loud.


I had the same reaction to Clay's answer and share your view that there was no animus between Spencer and Jason or Clay.




These are my opinions of this scene, and I'm sure some will totally disagree with me, and tell me that just because I've been here "forever", I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and that is true. This is just my opinion, based on being here "forever".



I don't know who dissed you yesterday, mikey, about being here forever. But I find it most interesting, educational, and enlightening when you, Ms. K, Stimpy, tampa, and others who have been members and forumites for a long time share the history of the site, the history and ethos of the forum, and your perspectives of Broke Straight Boys's place in the world of internet porn with us newer members. So KEEP DOING IT!!!

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[stowe1]

I agree with everyone. Only difference, Had I been management, i would have never released the video period.

So you mean to tell me after spending thousands of dollars on a scene you wouldn't release it???? (scratches head)

I met this guy he is really really straight. He was so freaked out and we really had to calm him down before even talking about doing a scene with him. It is really hard to tell sometimes who is going to be good and who isn't.

Mark is right in that you don't spend the money you did and not show it unless it was horrid and this scene wasn't horrid; just not all that good.

Having said that, Mark, you say you met him and he was freaked out and you had to calm him down before talking about doing a scene. Was this before you flew him across country to do the filming or after he got to Fla? I find it hard to believe that all this wouldn't have been settled before incurring that expense. And if that's the case, then he had to have known what the scene was going to be before filming started, and his was a case of overacting the reluctant, "I'm pissed off at myself that I'm so broke I have to do this" straight boy.


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[BrokeStraightBoys]

Mark is right in that you don't spend the money you did and not show it unless it was horrid and this scene wasn't horrid; just not all that good.

Having said that, Mark, you say you met him and he was freaked out and you had to calm him down before talking about doing a scene. Was this before you flew him across country to do the filming or after he got to Fla? I find it hard to believe that all this wouldn't have been settled before incurring that expense. And if that's the case, then he had to have known what the scene was going to be before filming started, and his was a case of overacting the reluctant, "I'm pissed off at myself that I'm so broke I have to do this" straight boy.


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Of course we talk to all our models before flying them out but you can only tell so much over live chat how they are going to be. We try to weed out the bad ones as much as possible but with any business nothing is perfect.

 

[jayshaw]

I think management insulted alot of members by posting this disgusting episode. Sorry Jason, that you had to work with such an asshole. Jason you always do an excellent job. Too bad Spencer that you found the scene so gross, but you sure had a rock hard cock threw out the action. This suggest to me that you put on a big act. You really deserve an award (perhaps for best performance by a supposed "straight" guy).lol.