Disappointed after 3 months

[nurse87]

There were times I've thought about leaving, especially at the beginning of the new Broke Straight Boys But I decided to keep up my membership and just kind of take some time away, and also watching some reruns (which I think lovelumps mentioned, I agree!). I'm happy I stuck around though, I'm liking some of the new stuff. And the bonus sites are great, as many before me have mentioned. I have a lot to catch up with on the forum though

 

[SGVBOB]

Sorry for this 2nd post in the same thread, but I am just irritated!

I think I could get "bitchslapped" for this, but, the members WANTED/ASKED FOR change...Mark gave it to them. He got bitched at. He got ALL NEW models, there has been commentary that the 'new' models are not as 'hot' as BSBv1 models, but OTHERS beg to differ quite a bit. He was chastised for the Broke Straight Boys site becoming too vanilla, or routine....THEN it was (this is NOT MY THINKING)..."HOW IN THE WORLD could you let a model practically be raped on screen, and still keep shooting?" <~~THIS NOT EVEN taking into consideration the fact that the models know what they will be doing prior, as well, they have consented-----this is ACTING!!!

NOW he is chastised again for being 'too boring'? Broke Straight Boys v2 has had rimming, acrobatics, (spooning), kissing, giving head, tee-bagging, and who could forget, 'taint-painting', lol?

I am just not seeing the 'boring'? It could just be ME though!

 

[jasonaz]

Sorry for this 2nd post in the same thread, but I am just irritated!

I think I could get "bitchslapped" for this, but, the members WANTED/ASKED FOR change...Mark gave it to them. He got bitched at. He got ALL NEW models, there has been commentary that the 'new' models are not as 'hot' as BSBv1 models, but OTHERS beg to differ quite a bit. He was chastised for the Broke Straight Boys site becoming too vanilla, or routine....THEN it was (this is NOT MY THINKING)..."HOW IN THE WORLD could you let a model practically be raped on screen, and still keep shooting?" <~~THIS NOT EVEN taking into consideration the fact that the models know what they will be doing prior, as well, they have consented-----this is ACTING!!!

NOW he is chastised again for being 'too boring'? Broke Straight Boys v2 has had rimming, acrobatics, (spooning), kissing, giving head, tee-bagging, and who could forget, 'taint-painting', lol?

I am just not seeing the 'boring'? It could just be ME though!

I never thought you were boring SGVBOB!

 

[cumrag27]

Just for the record...

Sorry for this 2nd post in the same thread, but I am just irritated!

I think I could get "bitchslapped" for this, but, the members WANTED/ASKED FOR change...Mark gave it to them. He got bitched at. He got ALL NEW models, there has been commentary that the 'new' models are not as 'hot' as BSBv1 models, but OTHERS beg to differ quite a bit. He was chastised for the Broke Straight Boys site becoming too vanilla, or routine....THEN it was (this is NOT MY THINKING)..."HOW IN THE WORLD could you let a model practically be raped on screen, and still keep shooting?" <~~THIS NOT EVEN taking into consideration the fact that the models know what they will be doing prior, as well, they have consented-----this is ACTING!!!

NOW he is chastised again for being 'too boring'? BBS v2 has had rimming, acrobatics, (spooning), kissing, giving head, tee-bagging, and who could forget, 'taint-painting', lol?

I am just not seeing the 'boring'? It could just be ME though!

Dear SVGBOB,

I realize that I was just one member with no particular sway, but I warned that..."if something is not broken, don't fix it." Things were not perfect before BSB2, but some people are never satisfied and always feeling the "GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE. I feel what we have to show for all the changes illustrates my point.

I thank God, that's right, I thank God that the original episodes have stayed available. They are sexually pleasing, entertaining, and much more mainstream in my humble opinion (I am not intending to criticize Clay here). When I first heard of Broke Straight Boys, the word "Broke" to me meant the models were open to more sexual experiences than just remaining exclusively "straight". The personal process of innate sexual curiosity they possessed "broke their straight mindset". Never ever did it occur to me that they had to be "totally destitute" or "street people". Thankfully, "Broke" today no longer automatically means preying on "the poorest of the poor".

In my two month absence from Broke Straight Boys, I am greatly encouraged to see the likes of Bobby and Mick as models and the return of quality former models like "Jason". What a delight Jason is to me. It is as much due to both his beautiful body and his willingness to do whatever it takes for the scene to work. Jason is what I admire in a true "Team Player". What separates these guys form the initial Broke Straight Boys-2 hirees is that these three guys want to entertain the members as all good models would. These guys seem more than willing to be "cooperative" during the shoot. While they might not be available were it not for the money exchanged, they seem at least able to enjoy the sexual experience, even if only as an addition to their established straight repertoire.

My feelings about any employee working for Broke Straight Boys is that they were not forced to sign a contract for a shoot and, if they are still unwilling or present a negative attitude during a shoot, I think it is only reasonable they should not be invited for future updates (without an attitude adjustment). Any other retail business having an employee with a bad attitude on the sales floor would do the same thing.

In my opinion historically speaking, we had many very attractive/willing models on the original Broke Straight Boys and it seems less so today. We had the occasional destitute model/charity case in the original Broke Straight Boys, but not nearly so many as we have here although it seems to be improving. Admittedly original models had a financial motive for being here, but they did not seem so downtrodden back then. It may not be their fault today, but I find this a major turnoff especially during these hard times. I have been financially broke many times in my life, but I never portrayed myself as being destitute or homeless.

Furthermore, while I have only had sex with "straight guys" in my entire life, I never targeted straight guys specifically. I was more interested in those who were curious and open enough to entertain something a little different. BJ's are not particularly gender-specific for those receiving one. That does not mean that I cannot enjoy seeing someone who identifies as "gay" having sex with someone straight or curious. Some of our very best and most popular Broke Straight Boys models were in fact gay, even if they did not admit it at first. When I first came to Broke Straight Boys, I remember members saying over and over again they didn't believe in "LABELS". Neither do I so I consider what someone is willing to do sexually as more indicative of who they in fact are than some arbitrary label, like "Straight". Contrary to that piece of wisdom about labels, evidently a significant number of vocal Broke Straight Boys members won out and we are now "hung up" on the label "Straight". Occasionally I heard the phrase "nelly" used pejoratively on site in reference to a few isolated gay models rarely used on Broke Straight Boys-1. And since the general consensus among gays today is a "preference for straight-acting models", just maybe the complaints made by these same unhappy members more accurately meant "straight-acting" this more so than the strict interpretation of "STRAIGHT ONLY". With the consistent popularity of "Cousin Mikey" on site, had the current policy been in place, he would never have graced any of our Broke Straight Boys episodes so many found popular. This one fact is something I cannot reconcile with the current emphasis placed on "Straight Models".

While this is not intended to be a complaint on my part, I feel this is an area we need to revisit the trajectory of hiring new models for Broke Straight Boys-2. I feel the influence of College Dudes is a positive and moderating one for Broke Straight Boys, so we can work our way back to a more "middle-of-the-road position" and not be so "LABEL CONSCIOUS".

Sincerely Unstraight,


Stimpy, aka Cumrag27

 

[mikeyank]

Dear SVGBOB,

I realize that I was just one member with no particular sway, but I warned that..."if something is not broken, don't fix it." Things were not perfect before BSB2, but some people are never satisfied and always feeling the "GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE. I feel what we have to show for all the changes illustrates my point.

I thank God, that's right, I thank God that the original episodes have stayed available. They are sexually pleasing, entertaining, and much more mainstream in my humble opinion (I am not intending to criticize Clay here). When I first heard of Broke Straight Boys, the word "Broke" to me meant the models were open to more sexual experiences than just remaining exclusively "straight". The personal process of innate sexual curiosity they possessed "broke their straight mindset". Never ever did it occur to me that they had to be "totally destitute" or "street people". Thankfully, "Broke" today no longer automatically means preying on "the poorest of the poor".

In my two month absence from Broke Straight Boys, I am greatly encouraged to see the likes of Bobby and Mick as models and the return of quality former models like "Jason". What a delight Jason is to me. It is as much due to both his beautiful body and his willingness to do whatever it takes for the scene to work. Jason is what I admire in a true "Team Player". What separates these guys form the initial Broke Straight Boys-2 hirees is that these three guys want to entertain the members as all good models would. These guys seem more than willing to be "cooperative" during the shoot. While they might not be available were it not for the money exchanged, they seem at least able to enjoy the sexual experience, even if only as an addition to their established straight repertoire.

My feelings about any employee working for Broke Straight Boys is that they were not forced to sign a contract for a shoot and, if they are still unwilling or present a negative attitude during a shoot, I think it is only reasonable they should not be invited for future updates (without an attitude adjustment). Any other retail business having an employee with a bad attitude on the sales floor would do the same thing.

In my opinion historically speaking, we had many very attractive/willing models on the original Broke Straight Boys and it seems less so today. We had the occasional destitute model/charity case in the original Broke Straight Boys, but not nearly so many as we have here although it seems to be improving. Admittedly original models had a financial motive for being here, but they did not seem so downtrodden back then. It may not be their fault today, but I find this a major turnoff especially during these hard times. I have been financially broke many times in my life, but I never portrayed myself as being destitute or homeless.

Furthermore, while I have only had sex with "straight guys" in my entire life, I never targeted straight guys specifically. I was more interested in those who were curious and open enough to entertain something a little different. BJ's are not particularly gender-specific for those receiving one. That does not mean that I cannot enjoy seeing someone who identifies as "gay" having sex with someone straight or curious. Some of our very best and most popular Broke Straight Boys models were in fact gay, even if they did not admit it at first. When I first came to Broke Straight Boys, I remember members saying over and over again they didn't believe in "LABELS". Neither do I so I consider what someone is willing to do sexually as more indicative of who they in fact are than some arbitrary label, like "Straight". Contrary to that piece of wisdom about labels, evidently a significant number of vocal Broke Straight Boys members won out and we are now "hung up" on the label "Straight". Occasionally I heard the phrase "nelly" used pejoratively on site in reference to a few isolated gay models rarely used on Broke Straight Boys-1. And since the general consensus among gays today is a "preference for straight-acting models", just maybe the complaints made by these same unhappy members more accurately meant "straight-acting" this more so than the strict interpretation of "STRAIGHT ONLY". With the consistent popularity of "Cousin Mikey" on site, had the current policy been in place, he would never have graced any of our Broke Straight Boys episodes so many found popular. This one fact is something I cannot reconcile with the current emphasis placed on "Straight Models".

While this is not intended to be a complaint on my part, I feel this is an area we need to revisit the trajectory of hiring new models for Broke Straight Boys-2. I feel the influence of College Dudes is a positive and moderating one for Broke Straight Boys, so we can work our way back to a more "middle-of-the-road position" and not be so "LABEL CONSCIOUS".

Sincerely Unstraight,


Stimpy, aka Cumrag27

Stimpy, my friend, it is so good to see you back on the boards. While you and I have never been simpatico on what type of models, and sexual situations that "get us off", I love being able to read your posts with your usual passion again.

It's so good to have you back home.

 

[cumrag27]

Dear Mikeyank,

I anticipated hearing from you on this response, but I want to thank you for tolerating my divergent views. I love being able to get an almost immediate reaction from you as well. Yes we are both passionate for our distinct interests for specific models. Ultimately, our passions may differ, but we get off more or less in the same way as any two well behaved gay guys from the same generation should!

It is good to be back home! Thanks for your concern!


Stimpy

 

[lesit78]

I was surprised to see that Broke Straight Boys is no longer ranked in the top 10 sellers at http://www.nudereviews.com/gay . In fact, it's no longer even listed in the top 25 top selling sites anymore.

But I think that's to be expected, anytime a company goes through a major reboot it seems the customers respond with mixed reactions until things stabilize again. I wouldn't be surprised if Broke Straight Boys ends up back in the top 10 sellers again soon.

I do feel the changes that have been made since the reboot have been very good, and overwhelmingly positive rather than negative.

I applaud the efforts to bring as many of us content that we love, appreciate, and desire. We've seen kissing, rimming, cum eating, passion, silliness, and of course lots of raw, hot sex.

With the changes that have been made since the reboot, I agree with Tampa who said awhile back that the improvements have been better...not worse.

Abe

 

[cumrag27]

Finger-licking good!!!

I was surprised to see that Broke Straight Boys is no longer ranked in the top 10 sellers at http://www.nudereviews.com/gay . In fact, it's no longer even listed in the top 25 top selling sites anymore.

But I think that's to be expected, anytime a company goes through a major reboot it seems the customers respond with mixed reactions until things stabilize again. I wouldn't be surprised if Broke Straight Boys ends up back in the top 10 sellers again soon.

I do feel the changes that have been made since the reboot have been very good, and overwhelmingly positive rather than negative.

I applaud the efforts to bring as many of us content that we love, appreciate, and desire. We've seen kissing, rimming, cum eating, passion, silliness, and of course lots of raw, hot sex.

With the changes that have been made since the reboot, I agree with Tampa who said awhile back that the improvements have been better...not worse.

Abe

Dear Abe,

Things are definitely looking up and I am looking forward to the time we can return to our former glory. I am particularly appreciate of adding rimming, cum eating, and siliness to Broke Straight Boys's tools of the trade. Even now, I just cannot get out of my head Jack raking his cum shot off Marks cheeks and into Marks hungry mouth. I really loved it!

Nothing infuriates me more that a guy deliberately broadcasting his fresh cum load anywhere but inside the actual mouth of the intended receiver. To be so close and yet so totally out of range is maddening for me to observe. If they are going to make the effort to cum around their mouth, I would much prefer it going directly to its intended target, the mouth followed by the receiver cleaning off the shooter's recently drained cock. Surely were he alive today, the KFC Colonel himself would have to agree that..."its finger licking good and a great source of protein!


Sincerely thrilled,


Stimpy

 

[Smiley]

Different strokes for different folks.

I've been dropping in on Broke Straight Boys over the past few months and have left unfulfilled. I literally can't make it through any of the new videos. I haven't gotten a hard-on from one of them in weeks. The models are uninteresting. The direction is lackadaisical. The lighting is flat. There is no enthusiasm. The videos plain aren't sexy to me.

I'm canceling my membership today. I will be around the next few weeks, participating in this forum as it is the only thing here that intrigues me anymore. I love you. I don't love Broke Straight Boys 2.0.

But then, that's me. Mark has to build the site he wants. It isn't the site I want, and that's OK.

 

[cumrag27]

Maybe Broke Straight Boys deserves a second chance?

Different strokes for different folks.

I've been dropping in on Broke Straight Boys over the past few months and have left unfulfilled. I literally can't make it through any of the new videos. I haven't gotten a hard-on from one of them in weeks. The models are uninteresting. The direction is lackadaisical. The lighting is flat. There is no enthusiasm. The videos plain aren't sexy to me.

I'm canceling my membership today. I will be around the next few weeks, participating in this forum as it is the only thing here that intrigues me anymore. I love you. I don't love Broke Straight Boys 2.0.

But then, that's me. Mark has to build the site he wants. It isn't the site I want, and that's OK.

Dear Smiley,

After leaving the site for two months, I have just returned and I have to say I dropped out precisely because of your take on Broke Straight Boys-2. However, since returning, I do have a glimmer of hope for the site although progress is at a snail's pace. Certainly, the forum is much enlivened since two months ago and that makes it all worth the price of admission in my mind. But certainly, were it not for the forum, my membership would be no more.

These are the first two postings I have caught coming from you. Glad to see you are still around and realize that many contributors do not get the acknowledgment they truly deserve. You have been a consistent asset to the forum and, frankly, I will miss you should you leave. I had already noticed your absence before your latest postings. Also, you may not know this but one of your buddies is back, "Undie". Take heed and perhaps reconsider.

Sincerely,


Stimpy

 

[lesit78]

Different strokes for different folks.

I've been dropping in on Broke Straight Boys over the past few months and have left unfulfilled. I literally can't make it through any of the new videos. I haven't gotten a hard-on from one of them in weeks. The models are uninteresting. The direction is lackadaisical. The lighting is flat. There is no enthusiasm. The videos plain aren't sexy to me.

I'm canceling my membership today. I will be around the next few weeks, participating in this forum as it is the only thing here that intrigues me anymore. I love you. I don't love Broke Straight Boys 2.0.

But then, that's me. Mark has to build the site he wants. It isn't the site I want, and that's OK.

Smiley, it's so nice to see you're here! I had cancelled back in April, but recently came back. I figured you had already left because I hadn't seen you on here in awhile! But I'm glad to see you're still with us, and I hope you'll continue to participate with us until your membership expires!

Abe

 

[Smiley]

Stimpy and Abe, thanks for the hello. You should know, Stimpy, it was seeing that people like undie and you had returned that made me realize I needed to raise up my head. Plus I missed friends like Ms. K, slim and Mikeyank. This board is the only thing that could get me to stay. I just don't think it's enough motivation, but we'll see.

 

[peterh6308]

Mark, although i'm not a fan of every model on the new Broke Straight Boys site, I was never a fan of every model on the old Broke Straight Boys either. All in all you guys are doing a great job with this site. With access to the other sites, you would think everybody would be happy with the selection they offer.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Stimpy and Abe, thanks for the hello. You should know, Stimpy, it was seeing that people like undie and you had returned that made me realize I needed to raise up my head. Plus I missed friends like Ms. K, slim and Mikeyank. This board is the only thing that could get me to stay. I just don't think it's enough motivation, but we'll see.

Smiley, you have been missed here on the forum. I won't try to convince you to stay, that is a decision only you can make.........but, if you need some porn motivation, there seems to be an entire group of crazy forumites ready to follow Mick to the ends of the earth. Forum wise, we are having a lot of fun, and I am glad you will at least be around for a while, to hang out with.

Much love to you Smiley.

 

[Smiley]

Thanks, Ms. K. Let me give you my love back. I'll also give Mick another chance. With my appreciation for props, I had high hopes for the body painting video, but no. I'll watch the other one with Bobby again this weekend.

Peter, if everyone was happy with everything this site has to offer, it would be the only straight guy themed gay website on the Internet.

I'm very glad you're happy and pleased with Broke Straight Boys

This whole thing reminds me of the Ford Mustang. For me, the ultimate Mustang was from 1964 to '67. Others think the best year for the Mustang was '68 and '69. I have a buddy that owns a '73 and he loves that car. I also like the Mustang from about 5 years ago. I thought Ford did a great job of reinventing the vehicle. In my book we all can be right, my buddy with his '73 and me, wanting a '65 Fastback, or when it comes to Broke Straight Boys, both you and LoganBroad. It's a very personal reaction as to what turns us on, be it a car or sex.

For example, you may not like pudding wrestling. Me, on the other hand...

 

[mikeyank]

Stimpy and Abe, thanks for the hello. You should know, Stimpy, it was seeing that people like undie and you had returned that made me realize I needed to raise up my head. Plus I missed friends like Ms. K, slim and Mikeyank. This board is the only thing that could get me to stay. I just don't think it's enough motivation, but we'll see.

Smiley, my friend, you know how happy I am to see your posting's again on this forum. Like Ms. K said, I will not try to twist your arm to convince you to stay with us, as it is obviously your own personal decision and your own bucks that you spend your way.

I joined this website before there was a forum, because of my fetish for young, thin, toned, smooth and (believably) straight guys, having gay sex. I liked some models and not others, but the whole concept of the site and David's style in the scenes got me hooked. Then when the forum was introduced, and after reading Slim, and Jayman, and MarkyMark and others for a while, I finally stuck my toe in the water, and the water felt fine.

It has been the forum, and my friends here, that have made it a "no brainer" for me to remain here. In the final months of David's reign, the final vids were somewhat dreadful, but I stayed for the new version and for you and Ms. K and Stimpy, and Slim and Tampa and the rest of the gang.

But please Smiley, whether these are your final weeks here or not, I hope to read lot's and lot's from you as you are intelligent, witty, and a hell of a good guy. It is GREAT to see the Ernie Borgnine avatar again on the Broke Straight Boys forum.

 

[SGVBOB]

I will probably get bashed by some, but....

(those are the ones that are cancelling anyway!)

After reading the latest on:"Why I am cancelling my membership", for such trivial reasons, I could not just be a 'bystander'. Sure we pay money to watch the videos. Okay MAYBE some are not upto par with your/one's expectations, OKAY, maybe TWO...?

WHAT ABOUT THE FORUM side?

I DARE ANYONE that is contemplating, finding another such site that has such a thing, inclusive of friends, or HELL, I will even go so far as to say FAMILY, where we can voice our views on the updates, or if (as in my case as of recently a few times), our disappointments, WITHOUT FEAR OF BACKLASH from management....name mem that site? Name me 'that site' that pleases EVERY MEMBER 100% of the time in 100% of the areas, and I will go to that site. Until then, I am continuing my membership, satisfied, (knowing there might-well-be some updates that I do not like, but as basically said before, "c'est la vie"!

 

[balboa]

(those are the ones that are cancelling anyway!)

After reading the latest on:"Why I am cancelling my membership", for such trivial reasons, I could not just be a 'bystander'. Sure we pay money to watch the videos. Okay MAYBE some are not upto par with your/one's expectations, OKAY, maybe TWO...?

WHAT ABOUT THE FORUM side?

I DARE ANYONE that is contemplating, finding another such site that has such a thing, inclusive of friends, or HELL, I will even go so far as to say FAMILY, where we can voice our views on the updates, or if (as in my case as of recently a few times), our disappointments, WITHOUT FEAR OF BACKLASH from management....name mem that site? Name me 'that site' that pleases EVERY MEMBER 100% of the time in 100% of the areas, and I will go to that site. Until then, I am continuing my membership, satisfied, (knowing there might-well-be some updates that I do not like, but as basically said before, "c'est la vie"!

I can't disagree with you, Bob. You make VERY good points. But if there are subscribers who are not into forums (I used to be one for a long time), then this wonderful feature would be lost on them and they would only have the content to go by. But I wish my fav sites had a forum. They really need them. The reason they don't is because a) they're lazy, and b) don't give a shit what the members think. I love that Broke Straight Boys actually cares; it shows me they want to please as much as possible. Altho, you can't please everyone no matter what you do.

 

[mikeyank]

I can't disagree with you, Bob. You make VERY good points. But if there are subscribers who are not into forums (I used to be one for a long time), then this wonderful feature would be lost on them and they would only have the content to go by. But I wish my fav sites had a forum. They really need them. The reason they don't is because a) they're lazy, and b) don't give a shit what the members think. I love that Broke Straight Boys actually cares; it shows me they want to please as much as possible. Altho, you can't please everyone no matter what you do.

You are so right Balboa, that it is impossible to "please everyone". That is why I find it amusing when some member's of the forum are so vocal to condemn a particular model, or style of direction, or a subject matter for a potential scene. There is no right or wrong in porn. We all have our own taste and turn on's and turnoffs.

Under these circumstances I think that Broke Straight Boys is top notch!!!

 

[Thunderschlong]

I think also, to sum it all up, in the World of Gay Porn, I need to use a term from the Star Trek Lexicon: "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations".

It is our diversity, as viewers of this site and others, that we bring these diversities into each and every site that we visit and, for some sites, invest our money into.

Being the newbie here, I have not had a chance yet to view many of the older videos that were produced here but I'm working slowly on resolving that, in order to compare and contrast the newer scenes vs. the older scenes.