Damien and Paul

[DChristopher]

Wasn't it Damien Kyle who leaked a preview of the upcoming TV show? Didn't Damien Kyle ask Forum Members for money so he and Paul could take a trip (when I'm almost sure he makes more money than most of the people in the Forum) and didn't he also ask for members to rate him higher?
The Head Master Paul made an error in airing Broke Straight Boys's dirty laundry. I'm betting he was put up to it by a close friend.
As far as I can tell by all these posts Damien Kyle and the true star of Broke Straight Boys have been banned from The Forum not the site. Doubt the ban will be a permanent one. So cool it. Broke Straight Boys Management is under no obligation to say anything on the matter.
People who have been around a long time probably remember when Dustin used the Broke Straight Boys name to make some money and was outright banned from the site. I was a big Dustin fan, but I got over it. No one, not even my all time favorite, Paul, is irreplaceable.
I sincerely hope and want to see more of Paul on the site, and I hope The Forum Members will relax a bit.

Hi, this is a tricky business and we can't always comment on internal matters. There are a lot of factors involved sometimes that we can't always discuss and we hope that you can respect that. We try to get to the story before our members do and explain clearly and concisely the nature of the problem (if there is one). In the TV show, we open up our business practices not only to our members, but also to the world. We try to respond to a lot of questions on the forums, but our schedules don't always allow us to read every thread. A situation must be evaluated, and a solution put in place, before we respond. We have internal rules that not only protect our models, but also protect the company and our members. Again, sometimes we have to respond to these issues swiftly and decisively and then make tough decisions that may seem harsh, but without knowing the entire story, they are necessary and must be enforced. We see all of our models as equals.

We know that many of our members become attached to some of our models and that is great. It is also easy to understand why our members would like to be in the know in a particular situation. However, when examining all the various angles and factors involved with some issues, the facts don't always justify full disclosure. We also must be careful not to reveal too much because our competitors also take notice of what we do (look at how a certain site tried to steal some of our top models only for them to try and come back). Our most important audience is you, our members, and we take that seriously. Trust us to conduct our business in a matter that assures success.

Our aim is to bring you quality models (old and new), in quality scenes, and allow you to get to know them through the forums and the BTS interviews. Our models are young guys, from tough, varying, backgrounds, that are often true representations of broke, straight, guys. Rules are often broken and it's especially tough when it's family. You'll see that in the show. Lord knows, some of the models try everything in the book to get around the rules, but thank goodness we're all old enough to figure out what they're up to before they do it (not always). Like i tell some of them, "what you're trying I did before you were even born", lol.

Hope that helps. P.S., I don't call the shots around here, but I do like conversing with the members as I have met many of you at prides or other events. The people who do call the shots have been in this business for over 20 years and know what they're doing. They're smart, two are Harvard educated, and together we make a great team. Wait for the T.V. show and you'll see how managing some of the models is a full time job and how we have to sometimes make decisions we don't want to.

~DC

 

[tampa24]

Why do I feel a little less hopeful about Damian and Paul after reading this?

 

[johnny]

Why do I feel a little less hopeful about Damian and Paul after reading this?

Me too. And we still know nothing. But I guess we on the Forum should just keep quiet.To bad.

 

[BenBen]

Getting rid of Paul and Damien over Vadim Black is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Vadim Black isn't all that, when someone is bad you'd think a simple slap on the wrist would suffice. Instead of banning them from the forum I would have rather they had been told to apologize. Then again maybe they were and they refused and they escalated the problem instead of defused it. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes it could be quite complicated.

When I saw the Denver Pride BTS with no Damien and no Paul that spoke volumes to me, if the faces of Broke Straight Boys aren't at the premier pride event something is going on. The stars should have been there while the B team was sent out to do the lessor events. You can't fight city hall if you push management up against a wall you're going to lose that's the way it works in business weather we like it or not. I don't like it but management has to do what is best for the company.

Why are we seeing so much of Kadyn and Tyler and Skyler, it seems like they are the only models they have left who can drop everything and show up for a shoot on a regular basis. Maybe Broke Straight Boys was hoping if they featured these boys we'd accept them as the new face of Broke Straight Boys? Doesn't seem to be working so far, but again they are featured in another BTS and will probably be featured in upcoming scenes. I think I'd rather see a digitally remastered classic scene than see another kaydyn and Tyler scene.

When I came back I was surprised to see Damian Christopher's involvement in the site, he has a very prestigious film career and has worked with a lot of big names in Hollywood. I thought it was weird that he was getting involved with porn, it seems kind of like a step down to me. No offense to the porn industry but it does seem to be looked down upon by the mainstream film community. I thought maybe he was brought in to help get the ball rolling for the TV show and give it that extra umpf they needed to be taken seriously. I would suspect to get a big name like Damian Christopher involved they would have to sweeten the pot and make him an offer he couldn't refuse. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't given shares in the business or made some kind of a partner?

Damian does have style and a way of doing things but personally I don't like his filming and editing style, it's too fast paced too artistic and more MTV video. His pieces almost give me motion sickness with all the fast edits and quick shots not something I want to see in porn, I want to see details and get a good look at the guys and all their parts. I like well produced professional looking porn but I don't want it to have an artsy feel to it.

I could more easily believe the line about Johnny being sick if he wouldn't have been completely absent from the forums for the past couple weeks. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words. Was that Damien in the Denver BTS who said he was straight? What does a straight man know about gay porn? Maybe it's discrimination but I don't care I want my gay porn done by a gay director and a gay cameraman because those straight guys don't have a clue what turns me on, it's not something you can learn it's something you have to live.

I think BSB TV ruined this site because they lost focus on what got them to where they are. What's the point of having a TV show about a bunch of guys who no longer work for you? That's not a favorable outcome for the porn company with a heart of gold.

 

[stowe1]

Getting rid of Paul and Damien over Vadim Black is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Vadim Black isn't all that, when someone is bad you'd think a simple slap on the wrist would suffice. Instead of banning them from the forum I would have rather they had been told to apologize. Then again maybe they were and they refused and they escalated the problem instead of defused it. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes it could be quite complicated.

When I saw the Denver Pride BTS with no Damien and no Paul that spoke volumes to me, if the faces of Broke Straight Boys aren't at the premier pride event something is going on. The stars should have been there while the B team was sent out to do the lessor events. You can't fight city hall if you push management up against a wall you're going to lose that's the way it works in business weather we like it or not. I don't like it but management has to do what is best for the company.

Why are we seeing so much of Kadyn and Tyler and Skyler, it seems like they are the only models they have left who can drop everything and show up for a shoot on a regular basis. Maybe Broke Straight Boys was hoping if they featured these boys we'd accept them as the new face of Broke Straight Boys? Doesn't seem to be working so far, but again they are featured in another BTS and will probably be featured in upcoming scenes. I think I'd rather see a digitally remastered classic scene than see another kaydyn and Tyler scene.

When I came back I was surprised to see Damian Christopher's involvement in the site, he has a very prestigious film career and has worked with a lot of big names in Hollywood. I thought it was weird that he was getting involved with porn, it seems kind of like a step down to me. No offense to the porn industry but it does seem to be looked down upon by the mainstream film community. I thought maybe he was brought in to help get the ball rolling for the TV show and give it that extra umpf they needed to be taken seriously. I would suspect to get a big name like Damian Christopher involved they would have to sweeten the pot and make him an offer he couldn't refuse. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't given shares in the business or made some kind of a partner?

Damian does have style and a way of doing things but personally I don't like his filming and editing style, it's too fast paced too artistic and more MTV video. His pieces almost give me motion sickness with all the fast edits and quick shots not something I want to see in porn, I want to see details and get a good look at the guys and all their parts. I like well produced professional looking porn but I don't want it to have an artsy feel to it.

I could more easily believe the line about Johnny being sick if he wouldn't have been completely absent from the forums for the past couple weeks. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words. Was that Damien in the Denver BTS who said he was straight? What does a straight man know about gay porn? Maybe it's discrimination but I don't care I want my gay porn done by a gay director and a gay cameraman because those straight guys don't have a clue what turns me on, it's not something you can learn it's something you have to live.

I think BSB TV ruined this site because they lost focus on what got them to where they are. What's the point of having a TV show about a bunch of guys who no longer work for you? That's not a favorable outcome for the porn company with a heart of gold.

They weren't at Denver Pride because they chose to go to Florida on vacation. In fact Damien Kyle posted on his Facebook page begging for people to make donations so they could go.

 

[joninliverton]

Jon, over the years we have agreed and disagreed on many issues, most often disagreeing, but in this case I believe you are spot on in your analysis of this situation, with the only caveat being I believe that Damien and Paul were equally responsible for the "hot headed" remarks about Vadim Black. Keep in mind that Paul's last post on the forum, prior to his comments on the Vadim Black thread was on May 26, as he had pretty much retired from posting. However he and Damien were on the road trip together and it was Damien Kyle who had become the spokesman for the two, (much as Damian Christopher has become the spokesman for Mark).

But I do agree with everything else you said Jon.

You are indeed correct Mike. Guess my admiration for Paul clouded my judgement.

 

[peterh6308]

Hi, this is a tricky business and we can't always comment on internal matters. There are a lot of factors involved sometimes that we can't always discuss and we hope that you can respect that. We try to get to the story before our members do and explain clearly and concisely the nature of the problem (if there is one). In the TV show, we open up our business practices not only to our members, but also to the world. We try to respond to a lot of questions on the forums, but our schedules don't always allow us to read every thread. A situation must be evaluated, and a solution put in place, before we respond. We have internal rules that not only protect our models, but also protect the company and our members. Again, sometimes we have to respond to these issues swiftly and decisively and then make tough decisions that may seem harsh, but without knowing the entire story, they are necessary and must be enforced. We see all of our models as equals.

We know that many of our members become attached to some of our models and that is great. It is also easy to understand why our members would like to be in the know in a particular situation. However, when examining all the various angles and factors involved with some issues, the facts don't always justify full disclosure. We also must be careful not to reveal too much because our competitors also take notice of what we do (look at how a certain site tried to steal some of our top models only for them to try and come back). Our most important audience is you, our members, and we take that seriously. Trust us to conduct our business in a matter that assures success.

Our aim is to bring you quality models (old and new), in quality scenes, and allow you to get to know them through the forums and the BTS interviews. Our models are young guys, from tough, varying, backgrounds, that are often true representations of broke, straight, guys. Rules are often broken and it's especially tough when it's family. You'll see that in the show. Lord knows, some of the models try everything in the book to get around the rules, but thank goodness we're all old enough to figure out what they're up to before they do it (not always). Like i tell some of them, "what you're trying I did before you were even born", lol.

Hope that helps. P.S., I don't call the shots around here, but I do like conversing with the members as I have met many of you at prides or other events. The people who do call the shots have been in this business for over 20 years and know what they're doing. They're smart, two are Harvard educated, and together we make a great team. Wait for the T.V. show and you'll see how managing some of the models is a full time job and how we have to sometimes make decisions we don't want to.

~DC

I understand some of the hard decisions we have to make being in mgmt. I've had to let people go whom I personnally liked for the better of the company. But in all you've written you didn't answer my simple question. Is Damien and Paul coming back as models??

 

[joninliverton]

Hi, this is a tricky business and we can't always comment on internal matters. There are a lot of factors involved sometimes that we can't always discuss and we hope that you can respect that. We try to get to the story before our members do and explain clearly and concisely the nature of the problem (if there is one). In the TV show, we open up our business practices not only to our members, but also to the world. We try to respond to a lot of questions on the forums, but our schedules don't always allow us to read every thread. A situation must be evaluated, and a solution put in place, before we respond. We have internal rules that not only protect our models, but also protect the company and our members. Again, sometimes we have to respond to these issues swiftly and decisively and then make tough decisions that may seem harsh, but without knowing the entire story, they are necessary and must be enforced. We see all of our models as equals.

We know that many of our members become attached to some of our models and that is great. It is also easy to understand why our members would like to be in the know in a particular situation. However, when examining all the various angles and factors involved with some issues, the facts don't always justify full disclosure. We also must be careful not to reveal too much because our competitors also take notice of what we do (look at how a certain site tried to steal some of our top models only for them to try and come back). Our most important audience is you, our members, and we take that seriously. Trust us to conduct our business in a matter that assures success.

Our aim is to bring you quality models (old and new), in quality scenes, and allow you to get to know them through the forums and the BTS interviews. Our models are young guys, from tough, varying, backgrounds, that are often true representations of broke, straight, guys. Rules are often broken and it's especially tough when it's family. You'll see that in the show. Lord knows, some of the models try everything in the book to get around the rules, but thank goodness we're all old enough to figure out what they're up to before they do it (not always). Like i tell some of them, "what you're trying I did before you were even born", lol.

Hope that helps. P.S., I don't call the shots around here, but I do like conversing with the members as I have met many of you at prides or other events. The people who do call the shots have been in this business for over 20 years and know what they're doing. They're smart, two are Harvard educated, and together we make a great team. Wait for the T.V. show and you'll see how managing some of the models is a full time job and how we have to sometimes make decisions we don't want to.

~DC

A very well put together statement, maybe even went through the Broke Straight Boys lawyers for proof reading. What it does say, is exactly what ViceKid and Stowie said earlier, and that is that Mark et al are the bosses and we have to accept their decisions. There have been many occasions over the years when a situation has caused such an uproar, the bareback issue and David Adamson's leaving are just two examples. After the tide settled then it was BAU (business as usual), some members left and came back (me) and some like Mikey remained.

Whatever Paul and Damien Kyle have done, and we don't know all the facts, then I suspect (reading between the lines of DC's post) that we will see no more. Sad news for some, but it if this is true, then it must have been bad for Broke Straight Boys to throw away 2 of their top models (popularity wise). We have to accept their decision or move on. This time around I will stay.

 

[johnny]

Getting rid of Paul and Damien over Vadim Black is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Vadim Black isn't all that, when someone is bad you'd think a simple slap on the wrist would suffice. Instead of banning them from the forum I would have rather they had been told to apologize. Then again maybe they were and they refused and they escalated the problem instead of defused it. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes it could be quite complicated.

When I saw the Denver Pride BTS with no Damien and no Paul that spoke volumes to me, if the faces of Broke Straight Boys aren't at the premier pride event something is going on. The stars should have been there while the B team was sent out to do the lessor events. You can't fight city hall if you push management up against a wall you're going to lose that's the way it works in business weather we like it or not. I don't like it but management has to do what is best for the company.

Why are we seeing so much of Kadyn and Tyler and Skyler, it seems like they are the only models they have left who can drop everything and show up for a shoot on a regular basis. Maybe Broke Straight Boys was hoping if they featured these boys we'd accept them as the new face of Broke Straight Boys? Doesn't seem to be working so far, but again they are featured in another BTS and will probably be featured in upcoming scenes. I think I'd rather see a digitally remastered classic scene than see another kaydyn and Tyler scene.

When I came back I was surprised to see Damian Christopher's involvement in the site, he has a very prestigious film career and has worked with a lot of big names in Hollywood. I thought it was weird that he was getting involved with porn, it seems kind of like a step down to me. No offense to the porn industry but it does seem to be looked down upon by the mainstream film community. I thought maybe he was brought in to help get the ball rolling for the TV show and give it that extra umpf they needed to be taken seriously. I would suspect to get a big name like Damian Christopher involved they would have to sweeten the pot and make him an offer he couldn't refuse. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't given shares in the business or made some kind of a partner?

Damian does have style and a way of doing things but personally I don't like his filming and editing style, it's too fast paced too artistic and more MTV video. His pieces almost give me motion sickness with all the fast edits and quick shots not something I want to see in porn, I want to see details and get a good look at the guys and all their parts. I like well produced professional looking porn but I don't want it to have an artsy feel to it.

I could more easily believe the line about Johnny being sick if he wouldn't have been completely absent from the forums for the past couple weeks. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words. Was that Damien in the Denver BTS who said he was straight? What does a straight man know about gay porn? Maybe it's discrimination but I don't care I want my gay porn done by a gay director and a gay cameraman because those straight guys don't have a clue what turns me on, it's not something you can learn it's something you have to live.

I think BSB TV ruined this site because they lost focus on what got them to where they are. What's the point of having a TV show about a bunch of guys who no longer work for you? That's not a favorable outcome for the porn company with a heart of gold.

Great Post.....

 

[DChristopher]

Getting rid of Paul and Damien over Vadim Black is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Vadim Black isn't all that, when someone is bad you'd think a simple slap on the wrist would suffice. Instead of banning them from the forum I would have rather they had been told to apologize. Then again maybe they were and they refused and they escalated the problem instead of defused it. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes it could be quite complicated.

When I saw the Denver Pride BTS with no Damien and no Paul that spoke volumes to me, if the faces of Broke Straight Boys aren't at the premier pride event something is going on. The stars should have been there while the B team was sent out to do the lessor events. You can't fight city hall if you push management up against a wall you're going to lose that's the way it works in business weather we like it or not. I don't like it but management has to do what is best for the company.

Why are we seeing so much of Kadyn and Tyler and Skyler, it seems like they are the only models they have left who can drop everything and show up for a shoot on a regular basis. Maybe Broke Straight Boys was hoping if they featured these boys we'd accept them as the new face of Broke Straight Boys? Doesn't seem to be working so far, but again they are featured in another BTS and will probably be featured in upcoming scenes. I think I'd rather see a digitally remastered classic scene than see another kaydyn and Tyler scene.

When I came back I was surprised to see Damian Christopher's involvement in the site, he has a very prestigious film career and has worked with a lot of big names in Hollywood. I thought it was weird that he was getting involved with porn, it seems kind of like a step down to me. No offense to the porn industry but it does seem to be looked down upon by the mainstream film community. I thought maybe he was brought in to help get the ball rolling for the TV show and give it that extra umpf they needed to be taken seriously. I would suspect to get a big name like Damian Christopher involved they would have to sweeten the pot and make him an offer he couldn't refuse. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't given shares in the business or made some kind of a partner?

Damian does have style and a way of doing things but personally I don't like his filming and editing style, it's too fast paced too artistic and more MTV video. His pieces almost give me motion sickness with all the fast edits and quick shots not something I want to see in porn, I want to see details and get a good look at the guys and all their parts. I like well produced professional looking porn but I don't want it to have an artsy feel to it.

I could more easily believe the line about Johnny being sick if he wouldn't have been completely absent from the forums for the past couple weeks. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words. Was that Damien in the Denver BTS who said he was straight? What does a straight man know about gay porn? Maybe it's discrimination but I don't care I want my gay porn done by a gay director and a gay cameraman because those straight guys don't have a clue what turns me on, it's not something you can learn it's something you have to live.

I think BSB TV ruined this site because they lost focus on what got them to where they are. What's the point of having a TV show about a bunch of guys who no longer work for you? That's not a favorable outcome for the porn company with a heart of gold.

Thanks for the comments. Here's a little story for you. I became involved in the show when they needed a showrunner to come in and help develop it. I was in the middle of working on my documentary in Nepal and the orphanage I volunteer my time to, but upon hearing about the show, I became intrigued by the notion of straight men doing gay porn and by the industry as a whole. I've always dated "straight men" and could relate to it. As a result, I helped the show evolve from its original concept to what it is today. We have a colorful cast of characters with varying issues and we decided to concentrate on that while developing the new show. There are some amazing stories to tell here. Not only do we get to go behind the scenes of Blumedia, but you also get to know the guys more intimately. These guys range from boys from broken homes, foster kids, homeless kids, kids who had substance abuse problems and are trying to fight it, girlfriends and wives who have to deal with their men having sex with men, and all types of other things. I focus on projects with a powerful story to tell and this was right up my alley. As far as being ostracized by the mainstream community, I don't have a problem with that. A good friend of mine that has directed several films that have grossed over a billion dollars gave me some great advice. He asked me two things. One, do I feel like I am revealing something very few people know anything about and two, is it a compelling and engrossing story? My answer was yes to both. We produced a great show and that's all that matters.

The show hasn't made us lose focus at all. Within the company, I handle the TV show and everyone else is business as usual and focused on the product. The show actually made us take notice of how different we are from most porn companies. Porn companies where the focus is sex is not exempt from moralization.We genuinely care about our models and their well being and it shows. That doesn't happen anywhere else. Mark runs a great organization with a great team. I will go on the record and say that it is a full time job handling the models and their idiosyncrasies. I will stop at that. We have an amazing house mom/ manager that keeps these guys in line. If it wasn't for her and her enforcement of the rules, it would be pandemonium. Actually, chaos would be a better term. There is one scene in an episode of the show where the guys go nuts when they think the staff is sleeping and, while it was hilarious for TV, they ended up wreaking havoc on a very expensive house and it took almost a full day to clean up. If someone destroys your expensive house and things, I can't imagine someone would give a simple slap on the wrist and that's it. For some, this is a quick buck and they treat it as such. Others put their heart and souls into it. That's why it's hard for me to read some of the negative comments sometime. If the poster only knew the guy, they may not be as critical or harsh. At the end of the day, it's a business that is always striving to get better and has a very vocal set of loyal fans that have created a great community.

Should we tell you everything that goes on. No. If you ask about certain things then maybe we can shed more light on the situation, but some things are left alone for business reasons. These are young guys who can be unpredictable at times, but they feel safe here and really trust us (especially during the interviews) and we do our best to protect them. Some of them have never known what it means to be a family until now.

Vadim Black was brought back because he asked to come back. The team evaluated the situation and now he's back with a new attitude and renewed vigor. We didn't replace anyone else for him. That would be silly. Not sure how that got started, but it is false. The fact that he came back to us and not someone else speaks volumes. Whatever the issue between him and Damien Kyle&Paul is not worth repeating here. We only get involved if it concerns their performance in the studio, affects business, or they ask us to. It's between them and should have never been discussed on the forums. It's a delicate balance by revealing as much as we do about our business. In the show, and in real life, you have your models that are good guys and you have your villains. There are some shocking revelations during the show and many things will become clearer when you see it. Like you saw in the official trailer, it is fascinating stuff. With some families, you have the mother, the father, and the child. This is our own version of a family—porn stars.

My shooting style is very different for Broke Straight Boys than other clients and is not for everyone. It is more comparable to what today's trends are in television (and reality tv), but I do try to give a more amateur feel for Broke Straight Boys My personal style is much different and is more reflective of what you see in my photography--more in tune with today's trends. My way of editorializing the porn talent I shoot is to create stylized images that are more provocative, thought provoking than images that are purely raunchy. But, I can do raunchy too. However, we've gotten a lot of attention from the mainstream media for our BTS and its style (most recently in Cosmopolitan Magazine) Not everyone will like it, but in shooting porn for Broke Straight Boys while Johnny is out, I hope to achieve an aesthetic that gets the porn wheels turning—an ironic touch that’s light enough not to compromise the simple pleasures of whacking off. My scenes are fun. It’s not the same old blah-blah-blah. They’re not formulaic. The content, actually, verges on that—sex is hard to reinvent. What’s different is the sensibility. In adapting to shoot porn, there isn't anything I can't conform to. What I don't know, I teach myself. There isn't anything I can't learn to do and do effectively. My scene with Ian and Zeno Kostas is something I'm proud of and hopefully shows that. I like porn, know what gay men like to do and see, and hope that comes across in any other scenes i'm asked to do in the future. We all go through our *sexual phases, and appetites change. Some like it and some don't. It's with anything you do.

Johny is sick and I'm sure the forums are the last thing on his mind. As for the show and the cast, we knew going into it that some models may decide to retire, move on, or be unavailable. However, our guys crave attention and will not turn down the opportunity to promote themselves when it comes down to Hollywood.

That was a lot. Tried to answer as much as I could. Good night!

 

[jasonaz]

If you have two guys that keep shit going on the hole time they have ben here. Turning things up side down all the time.Talked about models running some models off. I know before they came we dont have any of this it was a nice place to come to. This site can and will run with out them it has before..Now what we should be talking about is last night Zeno Kostas/Ian They should be trainning the other models. love to see a 3 way with Zeno Kostas/Ian/Ronan Kennedy Zeno Kostas/Ian That was a hot scene best in a long time..

Oh my friend. You obviously have not been here long enough to make such a statement.
This forum has always been fraught with drama and over reacting to statements made - sometimes tongue in cheek, that elicited such divisive commentary from the forumites that it led to some of them being banned from the forum all together , some even had to change their names to be able to come back and post after they had alienated many of our most devout members.
If you want a good read, look up the Torin, Steve and Aiden thread. I'm sure Mikeyank, Tampa and probably Jon still have nightmares about that one, it was the thread that would never end. And it all started because Torin said to Steve - "No offense, but I f you turn into a fag, you'll have to move out of my house"
So if you're going to make an all encompassing statement like that, have the facts to back it up when someone calls you on it.

So just for the record, Paul and Damien have not been keeping shit going the "hole time"(sic) they have ben (sic) here.

- Just thought you should know. - J

 

[mikeyank]

Oh my friend. You obviously have not been here long enough to make such a statement.
This forum has always been fraught with drama and over reacting to statements made - sometimes tongue in cheek, that elicited such divisive commentary from the forumites that it led to some of them being banned from the forum all together , some even had to change their names to be able to come back and post after they had alienated many of our most devout members.
If you want a good read, look up the Torin, Steve and Aiden thread. I'm sure Mikeyank, Tampa and probably Jon still have nightmares about that one, it was the thread that would never end. And it all started because Torin said to Steve - "No offense, but I f you turn into a fag, you'll have to move out of my house"
So if you're going to make an all encompassing statement like that, have the facts to back it up when someone calls you on it.

So just for the record, Paul and Damien have not been keeping shit going the "hole time"(sic) they have ben (sic) here.

- Just thought you should know. - J

Great post Jason. It's so good to have you back here, to help put things into prospective. Indeed the Torin-Steven-Aiden scenes and subsequent commentary were a classic example of "forum-mania". As I responded to Stowe on a different thread, earlier this morning, this kind of mania is what quite frankly makes the forum interesting to me. I can only handle reading so much of members praising their favorite models, the site owners and producers. Yes it is obvious that we enjoy the site, or we would not be renewing members, but the disagreements and controversies are what makes the forum sizzle.

And I hope that Damian Christopher read your comments too Jason, as while he has recently been placed in a prominent position in the BluMedia hierarchy, I believe it is useful for him to learn some of the history of the site and it's past controversies, as the old adage is true here too, that he who ignores history is destined to repeat it.

 

[betudidntknow]

Thanks for the comments. ...That was a lot. Tried to answer as much as I could. Good night!

I for one enjoyed your entire comment with regard to everything you took the time to include in it. I can tell that you are passionate about what you do. I hope that others can also appreciate your contributions, not only to the site, BluMedia, the models themselves and the work that you do in all aspects of photography, as much as I do now!

 

[joninliverton]

Oh my friend. You obviously have not been here long enough to make such a statement.
This forum has always been fraught with drama and over reacting to statements made - sometimes tongue in cheek, that elicited such divisive commentary from the forumites that it led to some of them being banned from the forum all together , some even had to change their names to be able to come back and post after they had alienated many of our most devout members.
If you want a good read, look up the Torin, Steve and Aiden thread. I'm sure Mikeyank, Tampa and probably Jon still have nightmares about that one, it was the thread that would never end. And it all started because Torin said to Steve - "No offense, but I f you turn into a fag, you'll have to move out of my house"
So if you're going to make an all encompassing statement like that, have the facts to back it up when someone calls you on it.

So just for the record, Paul and Damien have not been keeping shit going the "hole time"(sic) they have ben (sic) here.

- Just thought you should know. - J

Great post Jason. It's so good to have you back here, to help put things into prospective. Indeed the Torin-Steven-Aiden scenes and subsequent commentary were a classic example of "forum-mania". As I responded to Stowe on a different thread, earlier this morning, this kind of mania is what quite frankly makes the forum interesting to me. I can only handle reading so much of members praising their favorite models, the site owners and producers. Yes it is obvious that we enjoy the site, or we would not be renewing members, but the disagreements and controversies are what makes the forum sizzle.

And I hope that Damian Christopher read your comments too Jason, as while he has recently been placed in a prominent position in the BluMedia hierarchy, I believe it is useful for him to learn some of the history of the site and it's past controversies, as the old adage is true here too, that he who ignores history is destined to repeat it.

Great post Jason. Yes I was around when that horrible Torin said those things lol. There were quite a few heated arguments at that time but then it went away and we have had more since and undoubtedly more in the future.

 

[tampa24]

Oh my friend. You obviously have not been here long enough to make such a statement.
This forum has always been fraught with drama and over reacting to statements made - sometimes tongue in cheek, that elicited such divisive commentary from the forumites that it led to some of them being banned from the forum all together , some even had to change their names to be able to come back and post after they had alienated many of our most devout members.
If you want a good read, look up the Torin, Steve and Aiden thread. I'm sure Mikeyank, Tampa and probably Jon still have nightmares about that one, it was the thread that would never end. And it all started because Torin said to Steve - "No offense, but I f you turn into a fag, you'll have to move out of my house"
So if you're going to make an all encompassing statement like that, have the facts to back it up when someone calls you on it.

So just for the record, Paul and Damien have not been keeping shit going the "hole time"(sic) they have ben (sic) here.

- Just thought you should know. - J

Yes. Thank you for that Jason.

To judge them on their actions of the last few weeks, or even last few months, and say they have been keeping shit going the whole time they have been here is uninformed and just an example of rhetorical overreach.

Paul and Damien have been with the site for almost exactly two years. In that time they have worked hard and built a catalog of scenes that are of some of the highest quality of any on the site. Other newer models here and those to come can only hope to be so fortunate. They have really paid their dues to reach the level of success in the industry they have achieved. (With all due credit going to the staff of Broke Straight Boys who had faith in them and guided them to that success.) Their work on the yet to be seen tv show, their wonderful BTS vids, and all their posts in the forum and social media have all just added to their innumerable contributions here for the enjoyment of members.

I'm not ready to say it's over yet. I want to cling to a glimmer of hope that this might still be resolved. However, beyond the deaths of Dustin and Mike, this is one of my saddest days here in the forum.

 

[johnny]

Yes. Thank you for that Jason.

To judge them on their actions of the last few weeks, or even last few months, and say they have been keeping shit going the whole time they have been here is uninformed and just an example of rhetorical overreach.

Paul and Damien have been with the site for almost exactly two years. In that time they have worked hard and built a catalog of scenes that are of some of the highest quality of any on the site. Other newer models here and those to come can only hope to be so fortunate. They have really paid their dues to reach the level of success in the industry they have achieved. (With all due credit going to the staff of Broke Straight Boys who had faith in them and guided them to that success.) Their work on the yet to be seen tv show, their wonderful BTS vids, and all their posts in the forum and social media have all just added to their innumerable contributions here for the enjoyment of members.

I'm not ready to say it's over yet. I want to cling to a glimmer of hope that this might still be resolved. However, beyond the deaths of Dustin and Mike, this is one of my saddest days here in the forum.

Oh tampa, I so agree with you. Both these boys have given me so much pleasure. Most of all Paul. From day one.We started around the same time.
Save for the Ian and Zeno Kostas scene that is now past. The new lineup looks very bleak. I remember so looking forward to a new scene coming up. Not any more. Though looking to see how Ryan will do. Guess I don't really have much to say. I just feel so sad about it all.
Not one boy I am in love with. First time in years. A sad day. No face of Broke Straight Boys for me.Thankful for the Forum.Silly post. But just needed to say something some ware.

 

[jasonaz]

Yes. Thank you for that Jason.

To judge them on their actions of the last few weeks, or even last few months, and say they have been keeping shit going the whole time they have been here is uninformed and just an example of rhetorical overreach.

Paul and Damien have been with the site for almost exactly two years. In that time they have worked hard and built a catalog of scenes that are of some of the highest quality of any on the site. Other newer models here and those to come can only hope to be so fortunate. They have really paid their dues to reach the level of success in the industry they have achieved. (With all due credit going to the staff of Broke Straight Boys who had faith in them and guided them to that success.) Their work on the yet to be seen tv show, their wonderful BTS vids, and all their posts in the forum and social media have all just added to their innumerable contributions here for the enjoyment of members.

I'm not ready to say it's over yet. I want to cling to a glimmer of hope that this might still be resolved. However, beyond the deaths of Dustin and Mike, this is one of my saddest days here in the forum.

Thank you Tampa, for summarizing the facts so thoroughly and succinctly. I especially share your parting comment in that I also hold on to the hope that the differences will be resolved and this whole ugly mess will soon be but a memory.
After all, if management saw fit to bring back a model who self admittedly had "burned his bridges" with the site and his fellow models, why would you banish your star players for ruffling a few feathers?

Unless......(conspiracy theory coming).... this was just perfect fodder to fuel the drama for the TV show! - but that's another thread.

- Jason

 

[johnny]

One more thing about Paul.I know your thinking there's that crazy johnny again.But has any model past or present ever had a smile like his? He can light the room up with just his smile. And he is always smiling.
Can you remember any of his partners in any of his scenes?
(except for Jason ) I don't think so. When Paul is on the screen you see nothing else.
Blake has a Million dollar smile and Jason but Paul also has warmth.There is not one model that radiates warmth like he does.
Silly 59 year old man. Can't let go. Lot's and lot's of words.That really have said nothing. So until they tell us he will Not be back.
I will keep my fingers crossed for his return. And that's a hard thing to do being a hairdresser.

 

[danleeh1984]

One more thing about Paul.I know your thinking there's that crazy johnny again.But has any model past or present ever had a smile like his? He can light the room up with just his smile. And he is always smiling.
Can you remember any of his partners in any of his scenes?
(except for Jason ) I don't think so. When Paul is on the screen you see nothing else.
Blake has a Million dollar smile and Jason but Paul also has warmth.There is not one model that radiates warmth like he does.
Silly 59 year old man. Can't let go. Lot's and lot's of words.That really have said nothing. So until they tell us he will Not be back.
I will keep my fingers crossed for his return. And that's a hard thing to do being a hairdresser.

you really do have a beautiful heart johnny and the words u use to describe paul just prove that, paul is lucky to have someone like u in his corner. Dan x

 

[bigchris.]

OK kids time will tell .I don't have time for soap operas Later