Damien and Paul

[joninliverton]

I also find it interesting to note that the current Zeno Kostas/Ian scene has the same notation as the Vadim Black/Tyler scene.

* Broke Straight Boys Director Johnny wasn't feeling well, but the boys were already in the Broke Straight Boys house and ready to go. Behind The Scenes director Damian stepped in to save the day. We hope you enjoy Damian's Broke Straight Boys debut as much as we did!

I watched the intro to the new scene and when Damian is commenting on the tans on both boys, he says that it is "mid July" so this was filmed over a month ago, and it's funny that Johnny Robins has been largely absent form the forum as well after becoming a frequent poster, and even a management spokesman over the last few months, both answering and asking us questions and saying how much he loves to communicate with us, so are we now transitioning into "BSB4" with Damian Christopher now at the helm?

Damian Christopher is a fine writer and I would really like to know exactly what is going on with Damien Kyle, Paul Canon and Johnny Robins. After devoting so much time, as well as regular monthly dues to this site for the past six years, I don't feel that I am over stepping my boundaries by asking for direct answers from the current management team, of which DC seems to have a very large part in right now.

I have been a long term member of two sites since I first got into porn: Broke Straight Boys which I have been a member the longest and a UK porn site called BlakeMason. A few years ago BM sold up to Bakerstreet but the films were still made by the same person Mason. Then in Jan this year he lost his 2 cameramen and so he moved the production to Manchester to, funnily enough, another film company owned by Bakerstreet called Boynapped. The crux was that none of the loyal members were told until this March when Mason posted. Since then the forum is dead and the site has lost a lot of it's membership.

Regarding Broke Straight Boys, I am not a big fan of Damien Kyle but I'm also not stupid and realise that the majority of the forum are. I am a massive fan of Paul and love all his scenes and BTS and his posts. It would be very stupid and short sighted of the site to ban filming of these two hotties based on a few hot headed remarks (uncalled for may I say) by Damien Kyle. A forum ban would have sufficed. Saying that it does appear that DC is getting bigger and bigger within the company and from what first started as an occasional photographer, he has gotten promotion very very quickly. Just wish, as others do, that Mark would let us know what is happening.

BTW I mentioned the BM site just to make people aware what happens when site owners et al take no heed of their membership. It can be very costly..

 

[stowe1]

Peter:

Re:Johnny Blumedia, note this which was at the end of the Tyler/Vadim Black scene synopsis:


* Broke Straight Boys Director Johnny wasn't feeling well, but the boys were already in the Broke Straight Boys house and ready to go. Behind The Scenes director Damian stepped in to save the day. We hope you enjoy Damian's Broke Straight Boys debut as much as we did!


I think it might be logical to assume that was the case with the Zeno Kostas/Ian scene, although admittedly that note was not repeated at the end of that scene's synopsis.

And while I would agree with you that certain of your suggestions fall into the area of good customer relations, the management is under no contractual obligation to participate in the forum or respond to any questions which members might ask that are not directly related to the working of the site (the product) or anjy breach of the implied contract when we joined concerning number of scenes provided, etc. In so far as management does respond to other type of comments, suggestions, or inquiries, it does so at its own discretion.

This site is greater than any one or two models or directors. I joined just as Clay was coming aboard. And I know some people who were really upset with David's leaving, but as far as I can determine there was not a flood of people who left the site as a result. And we have to remember that those of us on the forum are but a drop in the bucket of toal Broke Straight Boys membership. Management can't craft its business decisions based on the views of a minority of members who might disagree with a decision it makes.

My guess is that Paul and Damien will return perhaps with a more realistic view of where they fit into the Broke Straight Boys scheme of things.

I also find it interesting to note that the current Zeno Kostas/Ian scene has the same notation as the Vadim Black/Tyler scene.

* Broke Straight Boys Director Johnny wasn't feeling well, but the boys were already in the Broke Straight Boys house and ready to go. Behind The Scenes director Damian stepped in to save the day. We hope you enjoy Damian's Broke Straight Boys debut as much as we did!

I watched the intro to the new scene and when Damian is commenting on the tans on both boys, he says that it is "mid July" so this was filmed over a month ago, and it's funny that Johnny Robins has been largely absent form the forum as well after becoming a frequent poster, and even a management spokesman over the last few months, both answering and asking us questions and saying how much he loves to communicate with us, so are we now transitioning into "BSB4" with Damian Christopher now at the helm?

Damian Christopher is a fine writer and I would really like to know exactly what is going on with Damien Kyle, Paul Canon and Johnny Robins. After devoting so much time, as well as regular monthly dues to this site for the past six years, I don't feel that I am over stepping my boundaries by asking for direct answers from the current management team, of which DC seems to have a very large part in right now.

Thank you for correcting my oversight. I did not see that in the Zeno Kostas/Ian scene.


With respect o the rest of your post, I don't dispute that you feel that you are with your bounds as a member to ask these questions or whatever other questions you wish to ask of management; my point is that management is under no obligation to respond for whatever reasons it might have. And of all people, mikey, you should understand my point about the site being bigger than any one or two models or any director. I can't think of anyone who was a bigger fan of David's than you. Yet you found reason to stay. Yes, the forum was a big part of that, but you have to admit there were some models post-David with whom you were enamored.

If there are members who would leave the site because Damien Kyle and/or Paul didn't return than I would quote my dear departed Mother when she said, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!" There surely wouldn't be any "wailing and gnashing of teeth" here in Pittsburgh; and somehow I don't see you jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge.

 

[joninliverton]

Thank you for correcting my oversight. I did not see that in the Zeno Kostas/Ian scene.


With respect o the rest of your post, I don't dispute that you feel that you are with your bounds as a member to ask these questions or whatever other questions you wish to ask of management; my point is that management is under no obligation to respond for whatever reasons it might have. And of all people, mikey, you should understand the point about the site being bigger than any one or two models or any director. I can't think of anyone who was a bigger fan of David's than you. Yet you found reason to stay. Yes, the forum was a big part of that, but you have to admit there were some models post-David with whom you were enamored.

If there are members who would leave the site because Damien Kyle and/or Paul didn't return than I would quote my dear departed Mother when she said, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!" There surely wouldn't be any "wailing and gnashing of teeth" here in Pittsburgh; and somehow I don't see you jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge.

I get what you're saying Stowie however, when there is a distinct lack of models coming through the stable doors, you don't throw away your two hottest models. As I said earlier, a forum ban (possibly for all models) should suffice. The problem is of course is that you cannot ban them from their FB or Twitter accounts and whilst there are forum members who continue to relay that information then there will always be an issue.

 

[shyhedgehog]

I have been a long term member of two sites since I first got into porn: Broke Straight Boys which I have been a member the longest and a UK porn site called BlakeMason. A few years ago BM sold up to Bakerstreet but the films were still made by the same person Mason. Then in Jan this year he lost his 2 cameramen and so he moved the production to Manchester to, funnily enough, another film company owned by Bakerstreet called Boynapped. The crux was that none of the loyal members were told until this March when Mason posted. Since then the forum is dead and the site has lost a lot of it's membership.

Regarding Broke Straight Boys, I am not a big fan of Damien Kyle but I'm also not stupid and realise that the majority of the forum are. I am a massive fan of Paul and love all his scenes and BTS and his posts. It would be very stupid and short sighted of the site to ban filming of these two hotties based on a few hot headed remarks (uncalled for may I say) by Damien Kyle. A forum ban would have sufficed. Saying that it does appear that DC is getting bigger and bigger within the company and from what first started as an occasional photographer, he has gotten promotion very very quickly. Just wish, as others do, that Mark would let us know what is happening.

BTW I mentioned the BM site just to make people aware what happens when site owners et al take no heed of their membership. It can be very costly..

Shit I wondered why Blake Mason had gotten so terribly bad! It used to be so amazin

 

[vicekid]

Peter and Mike,

I disagree with both of you and where you are coming from. As I said in a previous thread, this really is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. This is a business and neither management nor owner are required to explain to the public (that's us) about internal issues. WE (forumites) tend to leap to conclusions as if our rights were violated. At best we have the privileged to participate in and provide input to management regarding this site. There is no obligation, at all, for acting on any one suggestion. The fact that we CAN participate is a bonus for us. And good management will react where appropriate. If you look back over the years, management has taken hundreds of our suggestions to heart and implemented changes. But they reserve the right not to act in, if they deem it not in the best interest of the business.

I work for a major retail in management. Decision are made all the time which impact associates. Not every one is good. You either adapt or move on. Sometimes those decisions impact the public, well that's life. You want a real example, lets look at the airline industry. Did you like it when the airlines stopped meals in coach? We all got up in arms. Did the airlines change? No. Do we still fly? Yes! What about paying for your check bag! Did we like it? No, do we still pay? Yes. Are the airlines still flying yes. So the public adapted. These are billion dollar businesses, far bigger in the public eye. Broke Straight Boys is peanuts in the overall business world.

Management has a duty and right to enforce and act on those issue which could potentially impact them. The needs of the business, outweighs the needs of the few or one. As forumites, we don't make it any easier on them as we try to second guess them or threaten to leave. We choose where to spend our dollars. That's our right. Look at what management did to Penny's and the public's reaction? Will Penny's survive? Only time will tell.

I do tend to agree with Jason, that what is happening behind the scenes will clean itself out in good time. We need a cease fire to cool things off and work themselves out. And when it does, it will not be a prime time live news conference. It will just happen.

Keep in mind that starting with David and Eddie up to today, the models are treated as adopted family members. And sometimes boys/kids need a little time out. So lets chill out take a Vadium (I mean valium) and enjoy all the good little things we have in life.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

 

[mikeyank]

I have been a long term member of two sites since I first got into porn: Broke Straight Boys which I have been a member the longest and a UK porn site called BlakeMason. A few years ago BM sold up to Bakerstreet but the films were still made by the same person Mason. Then in Jan this year he lost his 2 cameramen and so he moved the production to Manchester to, funnily enough, another film company owned by Bakerstreet called Boynapped. The crux was that none of the loyal members were told until this March when Mason posted. Since then the forum is dead and the site has lost a lot of it's membership.

Regarding Broke Straight Boys, I am not a big fan of Damien Kyle but I'm also not stupid and realise that the majority of the forum are. I am a massive fan of Paul and love all his scenes and BTS and his posts. It would be very stupid and short sighted of the site to ban filming of these two hotties based on a few hot headed remarks (uncalled for may I say) by Damien Kyle. A forum ban would have sufficed. Saying that it does appear that DC is getting bigger and bigger within the company and from what first started as an occasional photographer, he has gotten promotion very very quickly. Just wish, as others do, that Mark would let us know what is happening.

BTW I mentioned the BM site just to make people aware what happens when site owners et al take no heed of their membership. It can be very costly..

Jon, over the years we have agreed and disagreed on many issues, most often disagreeing, but in this case I believe you are spot on in your analysis of this situation, with the only caveat being I believe that Damien and Paul were equally responsible for the "hot headed" remarks about Vadim Black. Keep in mind that Paul's last post on the forum, prior to his comments on the Vadim Black thread was on May 26, as he had pretty much retired from posting. However he and Damien were on the road trip together and it was Damien Kyle who had become the spokesman for the two, (much as Damian Christopher has become the spokesman for Mark).

But I do agree with everything else you said Jon.

 

[mikeyank]

Thank you for correcting my oversight. I did not see that in the Zeno Kostas/Ian scene.


With respect o the rest of your post, I don't dispute that you feel that you are with your bounds as a member to ask these questions or whatever other questions you wish to ask of management; my point is that management is under no obligation to respond for whatever reasons it might have. And of all people, mikey, you should understand my point about the site being bigger than any one or two models or any director. I can't think of anyone who was a bigger fan of David's than you. Yet you found reason to stay. Yes, the forum was a big part of that, but you have to admit there were some models post-David with whom you were enamored.

If there are members who would leave the site because Damien Kyle and/or Paul didn't return than I would quote my dear departed Mother when she said, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!" There surely wouldn't be any "wailing and gnashing of teeth" here in Pittsburgh; and somehow I don't see you jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge.

It is true Stowe, that management is under no obligation to respond to our queries, however I do believe it would be a good business policy to comment on something that obviously affects many of our feelings about the site so strongly.

The forum is my primary interest in this site today, and I would have to say that the David firing was the most tumultuous time for me here, as my two closest forum friends at that time were Slimvintage and Ms. K and we all exchanged countless messages trying to decide what to do, be it stick with Broke Straight Boys, or to join David's new site, but we vowed to stay together. However at this time, they are both gone from the site and I miss them both.

And as I currently pay my monthly subscription here because of the forum, and not the porn, and I know of other members who feel the same way, I do think that it is in the best interest of management to not turn a deaf ear to our inquiries on this matter. I am making no ultimatums that I will quit the site if PC & Damien Kyle are gone, but I respectfully ask for a comment on their status. I'm sure that Mark is totally aware of the importance of the forum to myself and others, and while he is under no obligation to comment or explain his decisions to the members, it certainly would be the courteous thing to do, particularly to his long time paying customers.

 

[peterh6308]

I share your sentiments Peter, as I also came back to Broke Straight Boys after an 18 month hiatus because of Damien and Paul, and to a lesser degree Aiden Troy (sorry Mikeyank!) because I heard that Aiden had bottomed for Paul and I just had to see it for myself.

I can not imagine that management would make the foolish mistake of releaseing either of these two models for actions that, quite simply, amounted to nothing more than a little personal drama between co-workers, that were blown way out of proportion, mostly by members of this forum. Especially since both Damien and Paul have remained true blue and loyal to the business, they are great ambassador's of the site, have what appears to be a huge fan base here, and contribute so much to our enjoyment and appreciation of the male form. Rarely, if ever, have I seen either of these two "phone it in" when doing a scene, and they generally bring out the best of, and compliment their scene partners.
Now that is not to say that they might not leave of their own volition, especially if they feel embarrassed or belittled by the fact that they were banned from the forum and taken to the woodshed.

I think Jon hit the nail on the head in that they were merely banned from posting for awhile, and that they will both rise above all this and be welcomed with open arms when next we see or hear from either one of them, which I hope will be sooner, rather than later.

Personally, I'm going to stick around awhile because my biggest wish is to have a scene with Damien and Paul making love to each other as if no one is watching. I don't care what anyone says, those two have a chemistry that goes beyond the boundaries of a simple friendship. Oh but to be a fly on the wall when those two are alone together. I can just imagine the fireworks they create! (that's my fantasy and I'm sticking to it!)

As a side note: Every time I see Beth's avatar, my peepee wiggles juuusst a little bit. Is that a still from a scene or movie that I missed?

Besides Peter, don't you wanna be here when they bring Tank Shane back?!

- Jason

Sorry for the time delay Jason, but that was a good post!! Tank Shane coming back hum? I think David was the only one who could convince him $$$$ to come back, so that won't happen....

 

[peterh6308]

It is true Stowe, that management is under no obligation to respond to our queries, however I do believe it would be a good business policy to comment on something that obviously affects many of our feelings about the site so strongly.

The forum is my primary interest in this site today, and I would have to say that the David firing was the most tumultuous time for me here, as my two closest forum friends at that time were Slimvintage and Ms. K and we all exchanged countless messages trying to decide what to do, be it stick with Broke Straight Boys, or to join David's new site, but we vowed to stay together. However at this time, they are both gone from the site and I miss them both.

And as I currently pay my monthly subscription here because of the forum, and not the porn, and I know of other members who feel the same way, I do think that it is in the best interest of management to not turn a deaf ear to our inquiries on this matter. I am making no ultimatums that I will quit the site if PC & Damien Kyle are gone, but I respectfully ask for a comment on their status. I'm sure that Mark is totally aware of the importance of the forum to myself and others, and while he is under no obligation to comment or explain his decisions to the members, it certainly would be the courteous thing to do, particularly to his long time paying customers.

Well put Mikeyank of western long island!!! I suppose my demanding was out of line, but your post is what I really meant.

 

[Beth]

Here's a little something from Facebook!

 

[johnny]

Here's a little something from Facebook!

Thanks Beth
Another Beautiful picture. Feeling sad. Since Damien C seems to have taken over. And he said Vadim Black is his new muse.
Having a bad feeling about the future of our boy's.Wish it all didn't mean so much to me. And I do have a life.This has just
become such a big part of it. I am even surprised. Keep the pictures coming while you can.xoxo

 

[tampa24]

Bless you Beth! x

 

[ChristopherRobin]

Apparently, I'm late to this party. Why are those boys banned from the Forum?

 

[Beth]

Apparently, I'm late to this party. Why are those boys banned from the Forum?

***crickets chirping*** Hahaha
...anyway, apparently Damien and Paul said some things to some members in response to their feelings about Vadim Black coming back to Broke Straight Boys In a very heated forum, Mark then decided to ban both Damien and Paul from here.

 

[tampa24]

With respect to the rest of your post, I don't dispute that you feel that you are with your bounds as a member to ask these questions or whatever other questions you wish to ask of management; my point is that management is under no obligation to respond for whatever reasons it might have.

We're agreeing on something again Stowe. It's been known to happen. haha

I very much share all of the passion that so many people have for Damien Kyle and Paul. I love them too. It's very difficult and distressing for us to see them in trouble with the site and their future here uncertain. We should still be careful here though with rhetorical flourishes in the heat of emotion. It's all well and good to be expressing our opinions as to what we hope the outcome will be. And of course to express that to the staff. But we need to be careful and respectful in regards to making any demands of mgmt. They try to be very respectful of us members. They aren't obligated to share business decisions outside the staffroom, even though they usually do share the major ones with us eventually anyway.

As we ask them to give respectful consideration to Damian and Paul's situation and how much they mean to so many of us in here, it's important that we extend to them the same courtesy. To that end, I hope they also see that some of those whose passions got heated are now walking back some of their earlier comments. The staff can easily become sort of victims of their own success at times. When they successfully build a company whose work, staff and employees (models) can inspire so much passion and love among its customers/members, sometimes that same passion can take unexpected turns. lol

But again... All this passion among members shows that the company (and models) have been doing something right to gain this type of following.

 

[danleeh1984]

Ok, I know I've already commented but I've just been reading through all of the comments and I have to see I agree with most of them. I don't think that its to much to ask for that we can just get a straight forward answer from someone in management in to what is happening or going to happen to both Damien Kyle and Paul. I know in normal circumstances you would not go in to a company and ask about employees but this company has created a forum for its customers to get to know each other and have the privilege to get to know the models as well, so as you can imagine we as the customers will get very passionate about people who we feel that we have got to know and so when 2 of the most popular people we have had the privilege to get to know have been taken away and there has been no statement in to when and if they will be brought back we will get worried and concerned. So please could you the management try and keep your customers happy and release a simple statement stating when and if we can expect those people to rejoin us. By doing this you will settle alot of our worries and enable us to react or feel in one way or the other. (I apologise if this is bad grammar or spelling but I'm not very good at them when I'm trying to write like this,) Dan x

 

[another1]

I believe there is a line between the right to know and the duty to disclose. in government, a simple request is met with information. labor negotiation, real estate negotiation, personnel matters being the exceptions. in a private business, even one with an internal bulletin boards, management decisions and discussions leading to those decisions are rarely subject to public demand for information.
I miss paul. I love the way Damien Kyle and paul use social media. I wish Damien Kyle would have posted on the rumor thread and not the model interview thread. I don't miss the campaign for stars by Damien Kyle. I miss paul.

 

[elyot1]

Wasn't it Damien Kyle who leaked a preview of the upcoming TV show? Didn't Damien Kyle ask Forum Members for money so he and Paul could take a trip (when I'm almost sure he makes more money than most of the people in the Forum) and didn't he also ask for members to rate him higher?
The Head Master Paul made an error in airing Broke Straight Boys's dirty laundry. I'm betting he was put up to it by a close friend.
As far as I can tell by all these posts Damien Kyle and the true star of Broke Straight Boys have been banned from The Forum not the site. Doubt the ban will be a permanent one. So cool it. Broke Straight Boys Management is under no obligation to say anything on the matter.
People who have been around a long time probably remember when Dustin used the Broke Straight Boys name to make some money and was outright banned from the site. I was a big Dustin fan, but I got over it. No one, not even my all time favorite, Paul, is irreplaceable.
I sincerely hope and want to see more of Paul on the site, and I hope The Forum Members will relax a bit.

 

[bigchris.]

If you have two guys that keep shit going on the hole time they have ben here. Turning things up side down all the time.Talked about models running some models off. I know before they came we dont have any of this it was a nice place to come to. This site can and will run with out them it has before..Now what we should be talking about is last night Zeno Kostas/Ian They should be trainning the other models. love to see a 3 way with Zeno Kostas/Ian/Ronan Kennedy Zeno Kostas/Ian That was a hot scene best in a long time..

 

[mikeyank]

With the P and D thread, lets save that until tomorrow during business hours, lol. Haven't read that one yet, so don't know what all it entails.

And as far as your response to the "P and D thread", I can promise you that upon my arrival home tonight from work, that will be the first thing that I look at here, as that thread seems to be occupying my thoughts more than any other at this time. I look forward to reading your comments.

I brought this conversation over from the Vadim Black/Tyler thread. Damian made his comment today at 3:02 AM Eastern time. I did wonder during the day what his comment would be and now at 9:49 PM I am very disappointed to see no comment.