Barebacking sex between the guys

[LesterM]

I must chime in here. I worked with a conductor fairly recetly who passed out on the podium in the middle of a show He was diagnosed with AIDS and in 6 months he was gone This is recently not many years ago. Please Please please no unprotected sex When I saw it with Alden and Robert I wanted to stop them but of course that is out of my hands. I don't want any pain and loss to happen I know it is inevitable but if we can avoid it by wearing a condom Why Not? This is commercial porn not a life comittment here. Let us not ask or allow the models to risk their lives for our entertainment because that is what we are asking when we are asking for BB sex

 

[i2ina69]

Gay or straight tarp that load. Plan and simple. No one get's hurt.

 

[Kodieboy]

Gay or straight tarp that load. Plan and simple. No one get's hurt.

Yep ..... Do the right thing

 

[Kodieboy]

No condom could end up a

 

[tampa24]

To those of you like me who watched to many friends die keep preaching the word. It seems that we are the only ones who talk about AIDS and the protections one must take. To Jayce I'm sorry you are HIV+ but very happy that you are still with us and hope you are for many many years. If you really want BB then buy/rent a movie, there's lots of them to pick from.

Welcome to the forum Lawrence!

 

[tampa24]

It is not worth it and I couldn't live with myself if one of our models got infected. I really don't think watching sex with a condom is really that big of a deal. I will not put my models at risk.

Mark

Thank you Mark for being so reasonable. I don't think any of you could live with it if you paid a model to BB and the guy later died. There are sites out there that specialize in BB. Let those site owners deal with the risk and the guilt.

 

[Kodieboy]

That was a mouth full, it it was very well said

 

[joninliverton]

As a gay man who has known he has been living with HIV for 23 years and 1 day, I would like to say the following:

Safer sex is based on the premise that all your partners ARE indeed infected, not that they MAY be infected. Only those in a committed relationship, having discussed their situation and having come to a mutual decision based on facts should be having BB sex. That would seem to contrary to the whole broke str8 boy theme.

The most risk by a HUGE margin is taken by the bottom. Unless the top is "intact", the risk is relatively minimal to the top (that doesn't mean I am saying go BB for tops). I remember saying it won't happen to me, I'm not that promiscuous, I'm not in NY or SF, I always get their name, etc. Guess what, it found me.

IT IS NOT WORTH THE RISK. THE PILLS ARE EXPENSIVE AND HAVE SIDE EFFECTS. THERE IS NO CURE, ONCE INFECTED IT DOESN'T GO AWAY. EVERYDAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE YOU WILL BE REMINDED THAT YOU MADE A STUPID MISTAKE THAT COULD COST YOU YOUR LIFE. YOU WILL SUFFER THE STIGMA OF HAVING HIV, BOTH SOCIAL AND SEXUAL (THINK ABOUT THAT HONESTLY). IT IS NOT WORTH IT.

humbly your servant,

Jayce

Thanks for your honest post Jayce. Although I find the original post rather thoughtless and uneducated, maybe it is a good thing that it was posted as it reminds us of what, like Jayce said, can happen to you once you're infected because you thought you would "take the risk". It's not like gambling on a racetrack for fucks sake - it's gambling with your life.

 

[Kodieboy]

Thanks for your honest post Jayce. Although I find the original post rather thoughtless and uneducated, maybe it is a good thing that it was posted as it reminds us of what, like Jayce said, can happen to you once you're infected because you thought you would "take the risk". It's not like gambling on a racetrack for fucks sake - it's gambling with your life.

Your right...its playing russian roulette with your life..... i dont give a dam how great i think a guy is .. im always greater in my eyes. no way im helping place a death warrant on my head..

And if anyone tried to talk my into doing it without id have said

 

[baal]

I can't find teh video online but y'all should listen to No Protection by Pansy Division:

Wow!
How cute! What a guy!
The kind that makes my mouth go dry
He turned around and flashed me a smile
While I pictured us walking down the aisle
But then just the other day
All I needed was to hear him say
That he yearned for a deeper connection
His lips parted upon the confession

He said
Oh Oh Oh I want you
Oh Oh Oh I want you
Oh Oh I want you with no protection!

Wow!
How could I argue with that
He'd gotten to me in five seconds flat
So hoping and trusting too
I took him home quick
I was wanting it too
We shed our clothes as we shut the door
And out from the bottom drawer
Female condoms-- my predilection
But when he saw my selection

He said
No No No I want you
No No No I want you
No No I want you with no protection!

Wow!
How could I miss what he meant
He suddenly seemed less intelligent
He said If it's not spit then it's not love
So put away those penile gloves

And I said
No No No this won't do
And I lost my erection

Now listen to me

Oh Oh Oh I want you
But No No No this won't do
No No I won't screw with no protection!

 

[Jayman01]

No condom could end up a

Very, powerful message... Nice piece of work there.

 

[Kodieboy]

If there a pic that will do the job ill find it

 

[Jayman01]

If there a pic that will do the job ill find it

I am usually like that when I feel inspired. LOL I do love your work.

 

[Kodieboy]

I am usually like that when I feel inspired. LOL I do love your work.

Oh thank you , as long as im not annoying anyone.. I'm an insominiac so things like this give me something to do , which is good as i enjoy things like this ..

And if all my posts do annoy anyone..... i just want you to know

 

[GreatLakes2]

To Quote GL2
Are you guys forgetting that one of the BB scenes featured St. Tyler of Evans??
When exactly did this budding Roman Polaski slash Nelson DeMille slash Stanley Kubrick grow a boyfriend?
And how many readers just got a chubby because I mentioned Tyler and a Nelson in the same post?

And the camera doesn't lie? Did you already forget about the moon landing? Or how about that dog food commercial where the chuck wagon rides across the kitchen floor?


(1) You responded to Slimvintage not the site owner and your film references were to your earlier attacks on our enjoyment of the discussion of film techniques to which I believe you told us to "get a grip on." So nowhere in the post did you site the site owner.

(2) You attacked Tyler for whom many here have a fondness. As I told him and David, Tyler is a sweet kid who has found a long maligned branch of the entertainment business which, frankly, I don't feel the least disrespect for, else I wouldn't be here now, and made a start at a success in it. Now you are as welcome as you can be to attack Tyler or anyone else, but don't do so and then try to claim you were attacking someone else when that attack is proven false.

(3) Yes, the offer for $1500 came for BB, but it came after the performer said he "never really used a condom."

(4) The inconsistencies come in who your attacking and why. And there we are not certain.

(5) I'm glad we're on the same side of this issue. We should all be on the same side of this issue. Too many young people are endangered by a disease of which they have not seen the savage destruction that our generation has. We have all become complacent. The only ones not complacent are those still living with the challenge of it on a daily basis and they need our love and our support and our honor. And our youth need our warning, our insistance, our perseverance, and, if need be, a good spanking! (Do you hear that Jacob, my love!) We've already proven once that we can discipline ourselves - it's time to do so again.

And, as usual, I've said too much. Enough. I've got pork chops in the oven and a husband in the den - or is that a husband in the oven and pork chops in the den? I told you I had trouble with my short term memory. And I'm also having trouble with my short term memory.

I somehow managed to miss this post until now.
What the eff is your effing problem?
Mark, AKA Broke Straight Boys, said in a post in this thread that he 'would not put his models at risk.'
I responded and said that there were already two risky episodes.
Slim or someone said that the boys who went bareback were certainly boyfriends.
I responded and said that Tyler was is in one of those episodes and did not think he had a 'boyfriend'.
Then I get shit because I 'attacked' the pasty twink with the cult-like following and then people start correcting me on who is who.
This is effing simple. Mark says he would not put his models at risk and yet there were bareback scenes. Am I the only one who sees this as a inconsistency?

You people have blinders on.

see you around...never.
Final post
John

 

[Jayman01]

I somehow managed to miss this post until now.
What the eff is your effing problem?
Mark, AKA Broke Straight Boys, said in a post in this thread that he 'would not put his models at risk.'
I responded and said that there were already two risky episodes.
Slim or someone said that the boys who went bareback were certainly boyfriends.
I responded and said that Tyler was is in one of those episodes and did not think he had a 'boyfriend'.
Then I get shit because I 'attacked' the pasty twink with the cult-like following and then people start correcting me on who is who.
This is effing simple. Mark says he would not put his models at risk and yet there were bareback scenes. Am I the only one who sees this as a inconsistency?

You people have blinders on.

see you around...never.
Final post
John

I noticed the inconsistancy too. I think that they go out of their way not have sex without condoms. I cannot explain nor would I try to explain why a few scenes went bareback. I do really think that David and Mark try their best not to put models in harms way. You do make a good point.

 

[Kodieboy]

I think we needed a laugh ... (my opinion only)

 

[davidneo5]

I think a site like this and College Boy Physicals, ABFT have a certin standard they must follow to even be in production. There was video out there that I received via email that was made by CJB (Circle Jerk Boys) called When Breeders Bend back from2006 where it followed the two main stars of the site and by the end of the video they were not using Condoms so I think it is really up to the models if they are into each other on camera and off but a site like I think they are more str8 than gay so I would like the site to stay in business and keep the condoms on not off

 

[Jayman01]

I think a site like this and College Boy Physicals, ABFT have a certin standard they must follow to even be in production. There was video out there that I received via email that was made by CJB (Circle Jerk Boys) called When Breeders Bend back from2006 where it followed the two main stars of the site and by the end of the video they were not using Condoms so I think it is really up to the models if they are into each other on camera and off but a site like I think they are more str8 than gay so I would like the site to stay in business and keep the condoms on not off

It is sad to see people taking those kind of chances.

 

[Markymark]

I somehow managed to miss this post until now.
What the eff is your effing problem?
Mark, AKA Broke Straight Boys, said in a post in this thread that he 'would not put his models at risk.'
I responded and said that there were already two risky episodes.
Slim or someone said that the boys who went bareback were certainly boyfriends.
I responded and said that Tyler was is in one of those episodes and did not think he had a 'boyfriend'.
Then I get shit because I 'attacked' the pasty twink with the cult-like following and then people start correcting me on who is who.
This is effing simple. Mark says he would not put his models at risk and yet there were bareback scenes. Am I the only one who sees this as a inconsistency?

You people have blinders on.

see you around...never.
Final post
John

I guess it is time for me to chime in on this mess. First, GL is right when he says mark said he would never risk his boys. BUT, and its a big but, Mark did NOT make these particular boys film these episodes. They, in fact, chose to do what they did, and, ineach case, we have it recorded.

Now, unless I missed something monumental like a change in the Constitution, then these boys still have the right to choose how they engage in sex. OK, maybe the decision isn't what we would do, but then, we don't have to watch, but, by contract, Mark and David cannot censure the videos due to personal objection, or do some of you not understand contract law? This is a business, the boys are paid to perform, and have artistic license in how they perform, based on the right to bargain. We have also all heard Tyler say that "Condoms are a must", so clearly it can go either way, based on who each boy is performing with. Again, I say, if you don't approve, DON'T WATCH!!

BTW, Tyler, thank you for my little surprise, it arrived today!

I am,