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Zeno and Tate....

Looking back on it now I am realizing that it really wasn't as bad as it seemed, or looked. I mean my dick stayed hard the whole time during so it obviously couldn't have been to bad lol those were probably quivers of pleasure, I just think my mind played a big part in this making me think that it was worse than it really was. I kind of kept thinking "are you really doing this? You're really doing this, I cant believe it. This is really happening" I know it sounds stupid but that's just the natural reaction from me as a straight guy. I think I will be open to trying it again in the future. Who knows, maybe it'll happen a few times. I'm not certain. I'll just have to see how things roll.

Zeno Kostas
 
Yes the feet thing is NOT everyone's thing...I know that- but there are some out there that REALLY enjoy seeing it- might sound weird but I try to shoot it in a way and set it up where it can look sexy to the people who don't appreciate feet sexually...it's not an easy "feat" -sorry...the joke was there- I couldn't resist
Johnny Robins

Johnny you fuckin dork haha I love your puniness (not to be confused with penis) ROFL
 
I've kind of been thinking of cutting the beard. Just a thought rolling around up there, but I'm a little hesitant. It would be the first time in 6 years for me to not have any face hair. Kind of a scary thought really. May sound a lil crazy but I might have forgot what it looks like under there. I know that I have a Cleft Chin (butt chin). Maybe a scar floating around somewhere idk.

Please, keep the facial hair. It adds character to your looks.
 
I can see, Zeno Kostas and Johnny, why you both said on a different thread that Zeno Kostas's reaction was confusing. This scene sent me in two different directions. Zeno Kostas, you are my favourite model on here,period. Its obvious what I had an issue with seeing, and that was you clearly in a lot of discomfort. Once you were back on top and in control the scene became a favourite. The way you was standing with your arms under Tate's armpits while fucking him was fantastic! And surely being with a vocal partner like Tate just made you hotter and dirtier. So well over three-quarters brilliant scene,with a three minute part in the middle that made me grit my teeth for you. Man,as a top myself,all I can say is that if that doesnt float your boat enough to make you versatile in future scenes then so be it. I watch your scenes knowing that i'm watching a sexually charged power-fucker and have not yet been disappointed in any scene you've produced. I get the feeling that maybe you're prepared to give it another go (maybe already have), although Tate seemed like the perfect, understanding partner for you here, so i'm not sure who could make you even more at ease.
 
Okay, so Steve (my husband) walks in when Zeno Kostas is fucking Tate's feet. His comment, "I already came while you were napping Beth." Apparently I didn't even realize "where" my hands were.:drool: This was higher than a 5...it was awesome! Tate's body is looking amazing and Zeno Kostas's furry tan physic is so hot! Kudos also have to go to Johnny, the real "puppet master!":tongue: More than anything, this scene was so natural and palpable; it truly felt like the "first" in many ways. Thank you guys; should your eyes be burning later, it is me, thinking dirty thoughts...:smiley-sex020:
 
Just a thought - how great is it that on many of the scenes as they are released you have a forum like this! What I think is really awesome is that many times you will get one of the models themselves from the scene right here to discuss it with you...I've NEVER seen that before on any website...to me that's AWESOME!!!
Johnny Robins
I've often said that the day that Mark instituted this forum to the site was a stroke of genius, for so many reasons. :biggrin:
 
I gave this a 4. I have thoughts on the scene, but in the interest of forum comity, and discretion being the better part of valor, I will keep them to myself.
I must admit that I had to look up the word comity, "a : friendly social atmosphere : social harmony <group activities promoting comity>. b : a loose widespread community based on common social institutions"

I must admit that your review Stowe reminds me of the old TV game show, "You don't Say", where the motto was "... It's not what you say that counts, it's what you DON'T say."

Although you obviously mostly enjoyed the scene as you gave it a "4". Intriguing review Stowe, my friend!
 
Wow! What an interesting scene. Both guys did a great job. I think at some level, Zeno Kostas had not just physical discomfort with the fucking, but emotional discomfort. Tate sensed it, as you could hear real concern in his voice. Zeno Kostas's quick shallow breaths and the arm over his face at the last speak to his going up to, and a bit past his comfort zone. I really give him credit for that. At least he can say that the guy who took his cherry is a hot, handsome blue eyed blond!

Tate did an outstanding job. This scene was so different from the one just before it that he did with JJ. I think this settles one question. The director really can set the mood and action of a scene. In the scene with JJ, not only was it JJ's first time fucking, but Johnny pushed Tate on the issue of where he was at now on the sexual continuum. Tate handled the questioning well, but I think the whole subject was in both guys minds during the "silent movie" sex scene. If you cut out the interview sections and just watched the sex you would think it was two guys who were really uninterested and just going through the motions. In this scene with Zeno Kostas, Johnny challenged them to really push the envelope, stroking their freaky egos and in essence giving them permission to challenge each other sexually. With that encouragement, the scene was really great. Feet fucking, rimming, cherry popping and great topping by both (for different reasons) and great bottoming by Tate.

The question comes down to, why was Tate so different from one scene to the next?

Maybe in the JJ scene something else had happened before the shoot. Johnny mentioned the crossed arms and had to ask them both to relax. There didn't seem to be much natural chemistry, yet Tate was hard from the start and pretty much stayed that way. In his scene with Zeno Kostas, he was half hard through much of it. I guess only Bacchus, the God of Porn knows the answers to what really happens in the minds of two guys fucking, gay, straight or somewhere in between!

I really like both models. Zeno Kostas has a real alpha male thing going on, and Tate is sexy and seductive as hell (those blue bedroom eyes!).
 
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I really, really enjoyed the additions to the normal things we see in a scene; I hope Johnny continues on that track for some scenes in the future. Even if it's not something I'm really interested in - and feet definitely fits that description - I think there's something really cool about seeing the models experiment on camera, for lack of a better description.
 
Gave this on a big ole 5. The only thing I would change is... I would like to see both guys without beards. For sure, Zeno Kostas is really handsome and the beard just takes away from how handsome he really is. Two parts I really enjoyed was first Zeno Kostas on bottom and the other was when Zeno Kostas pulled Tate's bod up to him and it was body against body and I really like to see that. It just looks more real. Zeno Kostas you are really becoming one of my favorites. Love the whole bad boy vibe.

I'd like to see both without beards, too. The whole facial hair thing is a bit out of hand now. Back in the day, the only guys who really sported full beards were the one's with heavy facial hair who could really pull it off. Today, every guy under 40 with a bit of hair on their face is trying to rock the look. Most are failing.

I like both these guys facial hair. Tate's is especially heavy and makes for a great goatee. He may sport it to keep from looking more the "pretty boy" than he already does!
Zeno Kostas, shave it off. It'll always grow back and I'd love to see the butt chin!
 
I'd like to complement Tate and Zeno Kostas and Johnny for this scene, as obviously both models and the director put in extra effort to please the fans, It's interesting to note that when Tate did his scene with JJ, (obviously shot a while back), Johnny used a different motivational technique to get Tate to perform at his highest level. Now that Tate has shown Johnny that he is a "freak", Johnny used that logic on both guys to get them to put on a "freaky" performance.

I personally am turned on by a different type of guy than either of the two models in this scene, but I recognize that there is a wide variance in what we all consider to be "hot", and I am pleased that so many of my forum friends thoroughly enjoyed this scene. Good job by all involved, while I am quite anxious to see the newbies, Ronan Kennedy and Dimitri in action. Once again, different strokes for different folks. :smile:
 
Wow! What an interesting scene. Both guys did a great job.

I don't have much to add to your post Stripe. But I did want to welcome you back. You write very well and always have something substantive to contribute to the discussion. :)
 
Although i'm starting to really like these two models, I didn't care for Zeno Kostas's bottoming. Sorry if it sounds uncaring, but I feel it was overacted. It's not like he was getting it from Duncan or anything. Maybe it will get better down the road. Zeno Kostas topping and Tate on the bottom saved this scene for me.
 
Looking back on it now I am realizing that it really wasn't as bad as it seemed, or looked. I mean my dick stayed hard the whole time during so it obviously couldn't have been to bad lol those were probably quivers of pleasure, I just think my mind played a big part in this making me think that it was worse than it really was. I kind of kept thinking "are you really doing this? You're really doing this, I cant believe it. This is really happening" I know it sounds stupid but that's just the natural reaction from me as a straight guy. I think I will be open to trying it again in the future. Who knows, maybe it'll happen a few times. I'm not certain. I'll just have to see how things roll.

Zeno Kostas


That would make sense Zeno Kostas that the inner psychological conflict was the more dominant issue in the bottoming segment. While it may have seemed very painful to you physically, and you may have been very conflicted, your body was also giving contradictory signs that it was pleasurable. You maintained your erection the whole time and your body quivered much the same as it does after the throes of some of your more pleasurable orgasms.

Of course good editing helps. lol Who knows what got left on the cutting room floor? :) I do believe that it looked much better on camera than you might have been expecting Zeno Kostas.

Believe it or not, even some gay guys will go through some of that deep inner conflict when they have hardcore sex for the first time. Sometimes the first time sex can be ruined because the virginal one is so deep in thought, to the point of overthinking every movement...and second guessing each sexual boundary as it's being crossed. All this to say I guess that there are many gay guys who can empathize very well with your situation.

I also have to give Tate more props here because I have never seen a more compassionate and caring partner for a first timer. Some guys lose control due to the physical pleasure of topping and either can't or won't slow down. Sometimes, once inserted, they are incapable of stopping movement altogether for their partner to mentally and physically regroup. Tate not only showed great compassion but great self control during the process.
 
Okay, so Steve (my husband) walks in when Zeno Kostas is fucking Tate's feet. His comment, "I already came while you were napping Beth." Apparently I didn't even realize "where" my hands were.:drool: This was higher than a 5...it was awesome! Tate's body is looking amazing and Zeno Kostas's furry tan physic is so hot! Kudos also have to go to Johnny, the real "puppet master!":tongue: More than anything, this scene was so natural and palpable; it truly felt like the "first" in many ways. Thank you guys; should your eyes be burning later, it is me, thinking dirty thoughts...:smiley-sex020:

"eyes" hahahah....oops, I meant ears.
 
Although i'm starting to really like these two models, I didn't care for Zeno Kostas's bottoming. Sorry if it sounds uncaring, but I feel it was overacted. It's not like he was getting it from Duncan or anything. Maybe it will get better down the road. Zeno Kostas topping and Tate on the bottom saved this scene for me.

according to Broke Straight Boys records, tate brought what can be called a big dick. one of the top 30%! I don't know what size is necessary for a first-timer to feel discomfort. Zeno Kostas with tate worked for me.
time to expand top favorites list!
 
I went back over the stills of the scenes; damn, you both are very sexy! And thank you Johnny for the great photos...you do do it well!
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