Vadim Black Comes Back To Broke Straight Boys

[shyhedgehog]

This is a bit too like an episode of sunset beach!

I see 2 options. Either:

1) Damien Kyle and Paul give us actual info not shrouded in secrecy. I'm not hearing actual facts here from why I can see. Very long vague posts and by the end of 4 pages of postings I'm no wiser about what's going on.
2) we all get on with our lives and forget about this. Vadim Black is back, let's see what happens.

I'm intrigued to know which models get along and are friends and which ones aren't though. I'm massive fan of both Paul and Vadim Black but the backstabbing and lack of info is a real turn off for me.

Surely if we're paying subscriptions we should get a bit more insight. After all, we are funding his return...

 

[johnny]

What Happened to Damien Kyle BSBModel ?????

 

[another1]

what's the story of the young man who takes his share and leaves. after losing everything and with nothing left to lose, he returned home. he ask to be forgiven for mistakes. his father ordered a feast in his honor. when ask why celebrate the return of a errant child said, he was apart from us and now he is a part of us again.

Lmfao guys I hate to burst ur bubble but wake up and do ur home work. if u honestly believe anything he is saying then I feel sorry for you.

I am old enough to have had many bubbles burst. my fantasies and beliefs keep me on this site. I hope management and staff expect me to believe his story. if not it would be a work of fiction and a source of friction. as a site oriented person, I give the site the benefit of any doubt.
what do you know and what will you share?

And yet again I end up arguing with somone who has no idea about what they are talking about. We all saw what happened last time we were about to leave. In case you havnt picked up on anything because I know your not on social media we have a reality tv show coming out! My name is Damien Kyle & This Is Reality...& im rude for being real and honest. I forgot who I was talking to. I forgot I had to sugar coat everything so you'd believe what I gotta say.

Ok lets talk about 1. how he abandoned his dog witch is now with me paul and dutches. 2. How dallas the company he left Broke Straight Boys to work for called him out on twitter about stealing money from them and then him finally abandoning Broke Straight Boys to go work for dallas. 3. Then comes back to Broke Straight Boys and gets idealized, asked abunch of sugar coated questions with out going into much detail. That what ya'll are missing and it makes me sick because u all are welcoming him back to his so called "home" to just leave again to go work for another studio AC. If we are ever going to have a Broke Straight Boys team of boys there needs to be honesty, loyalty, royalty. You all dont see everything us models see, go through. Models are constantly back stabbing each other. Im trying to make peace and a Broke Straight Boys team of models that can actually Rep the company with professionalism, make it bigger then it all ready it. Miking the cow and doing porn just because of the money is not the only reasons to be a model. You can either do somthing with your career and make somthing out of your self or u can be another average joe. Ive seen nothing but models trying to do other models jobs, models copying top models just to fit it.

I see paul posted a comment on Vadim Black's bts episode. good to see something got paul's attention. he doesn't post on the forum any more. he and Damien call bs on Vadim Black's interview.
as an outsider I have no idea what is going on. something tells me the site has become one giant marketing tool. the forum has become a test board.
I still don't know what happened the last time Damien and paul were about to leave. a rumor, a confirmation, a denial, a photo, and a reminder today. rude in the forum is good for business and reality tv.

**********************************

Damien Kyle ~

Maybe you're right - and undoubtedly you are. You and I both know how gay erotic sites work: and interviews are invariably tailored of one-quarter truth, and three-quarters fiction, to tug at members' sympathies. Having had a couple of friends in this business, I never believe any narrative which is offered up to me, as whole-cloth, about ANY model: including (I'm sorry to say): you.

However, what you should know is: when people like "mt" and "another1" offer kind words in a situation like this, they are not doing so as "insiders" - they are making their remarks on the basis of incomplete and imperfect information. BUT, they are doing so out of a spirit of KINDNESS, decency, and love.

It's not just mean-spirited, but also intellectually wrong, to suggest that they "haven't done their homework", or that anyone ought to feel "sorry for them." (Which is tantamount to suggesting that they are stupid. Which they are NOT.)

NO, INDEED. These are nice people who work hard, and have jobs and families, and who (unlike miscreants like ME) don't spend their whole lives masquerading as the "Hercule Poirot" of gay video. To the contrary - in their words and deeds, they are just showing, based on the limited and imperfect information available to them, all the KINDNESS they CAN. If that's a crime, then please, arrest me, too.

"A".

As the interviewer and the director of this interview, I will say that Vadim Black was honest and sincere in his answers. Knowing the complete story about why he left and what happened led me to ask the questions I did. Basically, he left Broke Straight Boys for what seemed like greener pastures and then came back when he realized what was best for him. We didn't go into details on why he left because he was contractually forbidden to do so by his former studio. That speaks volumes. He had a bad experience and learned a lot from it. He's young and it happens. Overall, I feel like he gave a great interview and is a welcome addition back to the roster. Our team prides itself on providing an accurate and honest look into the lives of the models that we feature. There are no half truths and we never intentionally set out to mislead anyone on anything or do things for attention. We're too busy for that. There are times that a model asks me to not ask them certain questions and I abide by that. Sometimes I have them avoid certain topics for their own safety and some things should be left alone. I worked for The Tonight Show and it was the same process. It's what it is.

On another note, it's bad to call out other models and say mean things about them or anyone for that matter. This should be done in private and in a professional manner. We expect our models to act in a professional manner and the Broke Straight Boys team apologizes for Damien Kyle's remarks. Damien Kyle is a very passionate person and doesn't hold back. However, this isn't the most wise thing to do all the time and he will be spoken to.

Guess this was a nice little preview of the TV show and what staff and models deal with on a daily basis. lol Good night!

Oh, and by the way, what does lmfao mean?

laughing my fucking ass off! lmfao

All I can say is that after a weekend of high drama on the forum with members of the forum "calling each other" out on several threads, and former combatants now defending one another, the level of drama and tension has been ratcheted up now by models calling one another out on this thread and on the scene page of the Vadim Black interview.

I've never posted on the comment pages, so I do not know if a poster needs to verify his identify to post there, but I saw this post:

bsbpaul on 08/17/2014

I just wanted to state that this interview is complete b.s. the real story behind the coming and going of Vadim Black played a bit differently from what i remember..what ever happened to his cute little puppy?

And this one:

Damien Kyle on 08/17/2014

I feel bad for anyone who honestly believes anything that comes out of his mouth. I cant stand by and let Broke Straight Boys fans think that everything is back to being ok. This interview def wont be the last & next time il be there to call him and anyone else out on their bullshit

I assume these are the actual guys posting, but I don't know.

I also find it curious that on Damien's posts on the forum next to his name it now says:

Damien Kyle
Guest
Join Date:Jan 2013Posts:907

So it is obviously still Damien with his join date on the forum and his number of posts, but why is he identified as "guest" and not
Broke Straight Boys Model, and what happened to his avatar?

I feel that there is more going on than meets the eye, much as that mysterious thread started a month or more ago, by a brand new poster, questioning the "rumors" about Damien and Paul leaving has never been fully explained to my satisfaction. I understand that many of these things may be none of my business, but I am a "yenta" by nature, and as I invest so much time on this forum, I am continually fascinated by all the subplots on my favorite reality show/soap opera of all, "Broke Straight Boys - As The Forum Turns". lol

I just wanted to post these two pictures that are up right now on the Andrew Christian facebook fan page. It appears to me that they are looking to have him on board with their modeling team. Which I feel directly contradicts what he said in this interview..and also supports what Damien Kyle was saying about Vadim Black's dishonesty. Please guys see that both Damien Kyle and I are here for you all as members. We try our best to ensure that any and all information we give to you is truthful. When I see another model deliberately lying on camera..thats just wrong..

Speaking on what Another1 said about Simeon..He deserves to be welcomed back with open arms. It's probably the best he has ever been treated you guys..what would that say about Broke Straight Boys if they didnt take us back even after we have made mistakes..I know I have made mine..Damien Kyle isn't the only one here who has a strong voice of opinion..ehhhemm

I'd just like to point out that Andrew Christian is not a rival porn company. Modeling is not porn and many in the industry do happen to do both, and successfully so. So, I'm not really seeing a problem here. Unless of course, it's a direct breach of contract. I would caution Vadim Black, however, that AC is not without controversy. Their ads are way over-sexualized-it's pretty much porn without penetration. I've also heard they're not exactly the most reputable company to work for either and Vadim Black might find himself in the exact same position he just crawled out of. Hmmmmm. Time will tell, I guess.

without knowing the reason for the interregnum between paul's first visit to Broke Straight Boys and the airing of his videos, I awaited his first episode with Broke Straight Boys I always remember that the grass is greener over the septic tank. shit happens. wipe, flush, wash, and move on! what I like about paul is that he is so human. to err is human, to forgive is divine!
as the fool said, God give them wisdom that have it. And those that are fools, let them use their talents.

 

[tampa24]

Without knowing the reason for the interregnum between Paul's first visit to Broke Straight Boys and the airing of his videos, I awaited his first episode with Broke Straight Boys I always remember that the grass is greener over the septic tank. Shit happens. Wipe, flush, wash, and move on! What I like about Paul is that he is so human. To err is human, to forgive is divine!
As the fool said, God give them wisdom that have it. And those that are fools, let them use their talents.

That's a great post Another1. This whole video and thread are on the issue of forgiveness. If we can offer it to Vadim Black, we can most certainly offer it to Damien Kyle for any upset he may have caused members or staff. And by extension Paul too.

 

[johnny]

That's a great post Another1. This whole video and thread are on the issue of forgiveness. If we can offer it to Vadim Black, we can most certainly offer it to Damien Kyle for any upset he may have caused members or staff. And by extension Paul too.

I already miss Damien Kyle and we don't even know a thing yet.

 

[joninliverton]

That's a great post Another1. This whole video and thread are on the issue of forgiveness. If we can offer it to Vadim Black, we can most certainly offer it to Damien Kyle for any upset he may have caused members or staff. And by extension Paul too.

I already miss Damien Kyle and we don't even know a thing yet.

Get real guys, Damien Kyle has truly fucked up this time. A few weeks ago he leaded the BSB TV video, and how he is publicly insulting and accusing another model of lying - so to speak. The sooner you guys realise that Mark is the boss and is trying to run a business and not a fly on the wall drama, then you will realise how bad things has got. Put yourself in Marks shoes and think what you would do if one of your employees and come out with such in house stuff to the public. This may be a fantasy site to the members, but it is a business to Mark and he cannot have his business put at risk or held to ransom by models who think they are bigger than Broke Straight Boys

 

[peterh6308]

After watching the BTS then reading everyones post I've decided that Vadim Black isn't being honest with everything he said. My reading between the lines in his answers he left in my opinion for better money (grass is greener). And making that decision he burned a lot of bridges along the way, including with his fellow models (Paul & Damien) and I'm sure other models that don't post on here. I respect the fact Broke Straight Boys mgmt has forgiven him and let him come back, but even with all his beauty his porn skills were aweful. Damien said nothing different then what Ian said when Johnny Forza left where Mark said "Ian said nothing wrong". Damien is passionate, emotional and a hot head, but to my knowledge he's honest and tells it like it is. If he's banned from the forum for speaking his mind, then we all should be banned!!!

 

[joninliverton]

After watching the BTS then reading everyones post I've decided that Vadim Black isn't being honest with everything he said. My reading between the lines in his answers he left in my opinion for better money (grass is greener). And making that decision he burned a lot of bridges along the way, including with his fellow models (Paul & Damien) and I'm sure other models that don't post on here. I respect the fact Broke Straight Boys mgmt has forgiven him and let him come back, but even with all his beauty his porn skills were aweful. Damien said nothing different then what Ian said when Johnny Forza left where Mark said "Ian said nothing wrong". Damien is passionate, emotional and a hot head, but to my knowledge he's honest and tells it like it is. If he's banned from the forum for speaking his mind, then we all should be banned!!!

He should be banned from Broke Straight Boys period. Note we are members, he is not.

 

[DChristopher]

This is a bit too like an episode of sunset beach!

I see 2 options. Either:

1) Damien Kyle and Paul give us actual info not shrouded in secrecy. I'm not hearing actual facts here from why I can see. Very long vague posts and by the end of 4 pages of postings I'm no wiser about what's going on.
2) we all get on with our lives and forget about this. Vadim Black is back, let's see what happens.

I'm intrigued to know which models get along and are friends and which ones aren't though. I'm massive fan of both Paul and Vadim Black but the backstabbing and lack of info is a real turn off for me.

Surely if we're paying subscriptions we should get a bit more insight. After all, we are funding his return...

Hi, there is nothing more to say about the situation except that two models have beef with one another and have decided to play it out on the forum. Not the right way to do things. The majority of our guys are good friends and get along during their stay here, There is mild drama from time to time, but that's to be expected when you deal with young guys like we do. We run a tight ship and expect our models (new, and old) to treat each other with respect.

Vadim Black's return was funded by himself. He contacted me, we talked, I spoke with the team, and it was unanimous that we allow him to return. The first thing he told me that he wanted to do was to apologize, not only to everyone here, but also to his fans. That's when we decided to do an impromptu interview.

Vadim Black did several scenes while he was here and I must say he was spectacular in his performances. I think you will see a new, and more humble, Vadim Black in his newest work. Again, he is under contract not to speak a word about his experiences with his former studio and we respect that. If he told you everything it would be very damaging to a lot of parties involved. We run a classy operation and bashing another studio is not what we do. More info on his experiences with that studio will not come from us.

I say it time and time again, but what you see in the BTS is what it's really like around here. We have a show coming out this year that shows even more. It's not staged. No other company has attempted to allow a peek behind "the red curtain" like we have. On the show, you will see the guys having issues with each other, forming alliances, sharing their personal stories, dealing with their personal demons, and much more. You can see much of that in the official trailer.

I like Damien Kyle, but I think his choice to say the things he said may have cost him several fans and respect. I hope he'll rebound, but time will tell. Same thing with Paul. I love these guys, but sometimes they don't make the wisest choices. But while it's no excuse, they are young and feel very passionately about what they do. They do a lot to promote Broke Straight Boys and their concerns, I believe, are a result of their love for Broke Straight Boys We stand behind our models even when they are not at their best. Hopefully Damien Kyle and Paul can move past their grievances with Vadim Black and allow their work to speak for itself. And to our members, Vadim Black is back and ready to entertain you. He's a hot guy with incredible sex appeal and is ready to give you the best scenes he possibly can. Let's save the drama for the TV show!

 

[another1]

this Damien/paul - Vadim Black thing is nothing like ian saying that johnny was at the end of his contract when ian and johnny worked together. people commented on johnny appearing distant. 40 episodes is the time to look distant. this was like someone pissing and dropping a turd in the punchbowl. guess the welcome back party is over.
I was called to task for not showing a dead model proper respect. now model rip into current models and question the intelligence of forum members. I expect few people to like me. what I do is try to keep the people who dislike me away for those who remain undecided.
forgiveness is the bedrock of my life. I'll stop here because my anger is not as gentle as my compassion.

 

[louis33705]

I started reading this thread first thing this morning. Now I'm ending my Sunday still reading this thread. I will sign off before my brain is totally fried. Have a good night, y'all.

Happy Dreams.

Louis

 

[bad4apple]

Well said, Damien C. Let's get on with the show!

 

[betudidntknow]

After watching the BTS then reading everyones post I've decided that Vadim Black isn't being honest with everything he said. My reading between the lines in his answers he left in my opinion for better money (grass is greener). And making that decision he burned a lot of bridges along the way, including with his fellow models (Paul & Damien) and I'm sure other models that don't post on here. I respect the fact Broke Straight Boys mgmt has forgiven him and let him come back, but even with all his beauty his porn skills were aweful. Damien said nothing different then what Ian said when Johnny Forza left where Mark said "Ian said nothing wrong". Damien is passionate, emotional and a hot head, but to my knowledge he's honest and tells it like it is. If he's banned from the forum for speaking his mind, then we all should be banned!!!

I totally agree with you Peter and I also agree with something Another1 said about it being good for business and the forum being a testing ground. I've not expressed any opinion on this situation as quite frankly, Vadim Black does nothing for me so, I've not been in any rush to watch the BTS. As much as I'd like to think this site is a "cut above the rest", I've picked up on enough things in my time spent on the forum to realize; this site does offer something many sites don't, an active, participating forum with the opportunity to interact with the models. Making this more of a Reality site. A very wise business move I'm sure. However, with all of the "Glamour and wonderful treatment of the models" that we get to see and experience, it's still the same business of porn. I stated in another thread " I am certain that (although we don't get up close and personal with models on other sites) there is a common thread among the guys in the business in general." Damian replied "Very true about the common thread statement. It's fascinating and we explore this on the show." So that tells me, the types of guys applying for modeling jobs in porn are no different site to site, the selection process might be, but....the business aspect of it is not above reproach, I'm sure this company is not immune either.

 

[mikeyank]

Damien said nothing different then what Ian said when Johnny Forza left where Mark said "Ian said nothing wrong". Damien is passionate, emotional and a hot head, but to my knowledge he's honest and tells it like it is. If he's banned from the forum for speaking his mind, then we all should be banned!!!

That's a very good point Peter, about Damien saying much the same as Ian did about Johnny Forza, and also that a large part of Damien's charm is his "hot headedness". He did go overboard in what he said about Vadim Black, and my guess is that he is currently on a temporary "cooling off" period, but I highly doubt that we've seen the last of, and certainly not read the last of Damien. At the end of the day, Mark is a businessman, and both Damien & Paul are involved in a lot of upcoming projects for Mark's business and he is not going to get rid of his #1 attraction of "The Damien & Paul Show", both on site, off site, separately and together. My guess is we will hear from a somewhat apologetic Damien within a few days.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

Get real guys, Damien Kyle has truly fucked up this time. A few weeks ago he leaded the BSB TV video, and how he is publicly insulting and accusing another model of lying - so to speak. The sooner you guys realise that Mark is the boss and is trying to run a business and not a fly on the wall drama, then you will realise how bad things has got. Put yourself in Marks shoes and think what you would do if one of your employees and come out with such in house stuff to the public. This may be a fantasy site to the members, but it is a business to Mark and he cannot have his business put at risk or held to ransom by models who think they are bigger than Broke Straight Boys

Yes he did leak the video but it was a good thing and we are all glad we did it. Because he did leak the video it caused some great buzz about the show and we got some more networks interested in it.

I definitely don't like the drama. I have a lot of better things I could be doing.

 

[johnny]

That's a great post Another1. This whole video and thread are on the issue of forgiveness. If we can offer it to Vadim Black, we can most certainly offer it to Damien Kyle for any upset he may have caused members or staff. And by extension Paul too.

After watching the BTS then reading everyones post I've decided that Vadim Black isn't being honest with everything he said. My reading between the lines in his answers he left in my opinion for better money (grass is greener). And making that decision he burned a lot of bridges along the way, including with his fellow models (Paul & Damien) and I'm sure other models that don't post on here. I respect the fact Broke Straight Boys mgmt has forgiven him and let him come back, but even with all his beauty his porn skills were aweful. Damien said nothing different then what Ian said when Johnny Forza left where Mark said "Ian said nothing wrong". Damien is passionate, emotional and a hot head, but to my knowledge he's honest and tells it like it is. If he's banned from the forum for speaking his mind, then we all should be banned!!!

That's a very good point Peter, about Damien saying much the same as Ian did about Johnny Forza, and also that a large part of Damien's charm is his "hot headedness". He did go overboard in what he said about Vadim Black, and my guess is that he is currently on a temporary "cooling off" period, but I highly doubt that we've seen the last of, and certainly not read the last of Damien. At the end of the day, Mark is a businessman, and both Damien & Paul are involved in a lot of upcoming projects for Mark's business and he is not going to get rid of his #1 attraction of "The Damien & Paul Show", both on site, off site, separately and together. My guess is we will hear from a somewhat apologetic Damien within a few days.

Great Posts Guy's and betu and Broke Straight Boys.Lot of Good posts .People saying how they feel.Pro and Con.
The Damien and Paul show have a big part in keeping me on the site.Plus my love of the Forum and people on it.
Have to love it to spend a beautiful Sunday home on my computer.I know get a life.Well God willing there will be tomorrow.
This has been plenty for me.I did what I had to do all week.This is where I want to be today.
Like mike said Damien is a bit of a hothead.But his pictures ,comments,time spent replying to us,sharing his vacation etc.
Have given me lot of smiles.Slap his hand,give him a good talking to.NO Spanking.lol But let him back. I just really think he is to important Broke Straight Boys. And us,
I am just a fan.Just saying what I feel.
johnny

 

[tampa24]

I like Damien Kyle, but I think his choice to say the things he said may have cost him several fans and respect. I hope he'll rebound, but time will tell. Same thing with Paul. I love these guys, but sometimes they don't make the wisest choices. But while it's no excuse, they are young and feel very passionately about what they do. They do a lot to promote Broke Straight Boys and their concerns, I believe, are a result of their love for Broke Straight Boys We stand behind our models even when they are not at their best. Hopefully Damien Kyle and Paul can move past their grievances with Vadim Black and allow their work to speak for itself.

And to our members, Vadim Black is back and ready to entertain you. He's a hot guy with incredible sex appeal and is ready to give you the best scenes he possibly can. Let's save the drama for the TV show!

I will speak more on this thread later when I have more time. I have to say though that this is the most comforting perspective I've heard on this all day. I think Damien Kyle will be good with his fans. As with any he may have turned off, I think they will come back. We are quite a forgiving lot anyway. Heck. That's one reason why management and staff knew that if they reintroduced Vadim Black to us in a BTS before his new scenes aired, that chances were very good we would welcome him back. I can find that same forgiveness for anything here Damien has done that would appear to be unprofessional. We may agree that his methods are sometimes clumsy and not always well thought out. But it's also that very passion that I find attractive about him. His intentions for wanting the site to succeed to ever greater heights are apparent. He may not always be on the same page with staff as to how to go about achieving those goals. We also know though that of all the models here nobody can ever accuse Damien of not caring about the company...or the fans!

 

[louis33705]

That's a very good point Peter, about Damien saying much the same as Ian did about Johnny Forza, and also that a large part of Damien's charm is his "hot headedness". He did go overboard in what he said about Vadim Black, and my guess is that he is currently on a temporary "cooling off" period, but I highly doubt that we've seen the last of, and certainly not read the last of Damien. At the end of the day, Mark is a businessman, and both Damien & Paul are involved in a lot of upcoming projects for Mark's business and he is not going to get rid of his #1 attraction of "The Damien & Paul Show", both on site, off site, separately and together. My guess is we will hear from a somewhat apologetic Damien within a few days.

Mike and others. I am not expecting apologies from anyone. I was a ceremonial leader in my Native Tradition for upteen years. I was placed on a pedestal and also crucified by my followers. I remember one instance when I expelled a member of our group for sexual harassment. The followers did not react favorably on my decision to do so. When they asked me for an explanation and apology, I replied,

"I do not defend my actions, nor do I apologize for my words!" The Indian Community applauded my courage and stance that I took in my convictions.

Therefore, I am not expecting any apologies from anyone, including a valued member of our community.

So be it.

Louis

 

[stowe1]

All this drama over models on a porn web site is beyond belief. I don't give a shit if model a likes model b or model c or not. I come here for hot, sexy, erotic videos. I guess the one thing we might all be able to agree on is that there will be no Vadim Black-Damien, Vadim Black-Paul, or Vadim Black-Damien-Paul scenes any time soon - lol!!

 

[another1]

Yes he did leak the video but it was a good thing and we are all glad we did it. Because he did leak the video it caused some great buzz about the show and we got some more networks interested in it.

I definitely don't like the drama. I have a lot of better things I could be doing.

I am still trying to get past being told I am too stupid or too lazy to consider the best interest of site. but if the model is important to the business, then I will try to not to let my being stupid or lazy cloud my view of the site.