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[ScottC]

hey guys,
Does anyone know of any porn sites where you can have some one on one conversation with the models. I mean this place is great and all but, it just seems to have lost something now that it will never recover from. I don't know everything thats going on and I've never been privy to any inside stuff but, I don't really feel like a threat to anyone, and I've never sent any threatening messages and I just don't know what to think anymore.

I really liked the opportunity to send messages to the models ( I sent 5 to Tyler and got 3 messages back) I also sent a message to Brokemichael, and he didn't send 1 back, and I never sent a message to Logan because Mark said not too. There was something about this place that made you feel like you really belonged and you were a part of something..It lost that feeling for me and even though we are told that we can post messages for them on the forum...I mean come on who wants to wait once a year for any of the models to read the forum..I don't think they look at the forum at all

I mean it seems to me like you can post on the forum and tell everyone what a great job there doing and how wonderful and brilliant they are for there filming achievements, You can brag about how hot the models are and how wonderful they look and all that...It seems like you can brag about anyone at all...you just cant be friends with them, you can't message them, you can't talk to them, and you can't befriend them, and now you can't even post on there pages.

it was also pretty obvious that everyone that has jobs here or work for them was all for the idea...yeah why not...they already know the models, they know everything about them so now its time to protect them from all those poor white trash people like me that might be lurking in the site that want to know anything about them. I guess its a good thing to protect them from people that don't ever get to know them.

I wish we could have known what it was all about but, Its not any of my business. I just wish they would have offered something as to why...anything..

Well, I'm probably going to get kicked out of this place for sure now because I asked some questions that probably everyone else is thinking but, you know what that still puts me ahead of all of the guys that didn't say nothing.

If anyone does know of any sites where you can actually be part of and feel a part of by being able to converse with the models than my e-mail address is : [email protected] ......Unlike them I will answer my messages, and I'm always happy to get them.

You know one of the things that really made me mad is that I wanted a certain person to tell a family member that I thanked them for their service to the country and for being brave enough and honorable enough to serve in the military of this country....believe it or not it hurts me deeply that I don't know if they got to tell them for me.

Well, I still love most of you....and when I'm kicked out for posting this message than well, I guess you can say anything you want about me.
Casper

P. S. I was going to try and delete all the posts I made before I got kicked out of here so that they won't even have to remember me....but....I made a lot of posts, and I don't have time to delete them all...Sorry..I'm sure the moderator can delete them for me.

Casper,

Sometimes in business, as in life, we can't always get what we want (to quote the Rolling Stones a bit).

What do you think would happen if they kept communication with the models open, in spite of problems that necessitated that action? It's quite possible some of the models would quit, Broke Straight Boys would get a reputation as not caring about them at all, and then...you can guess the rest.

The models are the bread and butter of any porn site (obviously); and for Broke Straight Boys to not protect them, would be financial suicide. Unfortunately, there's always some rotten apples who spoil everything because of their reckless selfishness, but sensng how you feel about some of them, I'd think you'd be happy that Broke Straight Boys went to such lengths to protect them, yet provide some form of interaction.

In a case like this, it can't be about what WE want, but what is BEST for the models.

 

[ScottC]

DAvid says the models feel like whores when they get offered money for sex from one of us..Well what the fuck u think they doing on screen? the models are whores..end of story!

Could you possibly be more degrading or ignorant? If you don't see the difference between making porn and having someone pay them for sex, outside of their "job" here, then you really need to get out more often.

There's a distinct difference between a hustler offering a 20$ BJ behind the 7-11 and making professional porn movies.

And if you want to be taken seriously you should learn how to spell correctly.

 

[dande01]

Thank you ScottC well said....

 

[mikeyank]

Jeez I didn't realise there was a hurricane over there this time of year. What have you guys and gals been eating for Sunday lunch ? Think it's time we sent in the National Guard as per CSN&Y.

For a young British twink, you sure know a lot about American sixties rock n roll. (I called you a twink in the very best sense of the word).

 

[ScottC]

Thank you ScottC well said....

My pleasure. I think sometimes, because we live in such a "customer is always right" society, that when a business has to make what may be an unpopular decision (such as no more direct messages) this sense of entitlement comes roaring into play.

Now I'm not kissing ass here, but Broke Straight Boys in my opinion, offers far more than what most other sites do. Even being able to leave a public message for a model is more than what most allow. I for one, can only imagine the headaches you get from models and customers regarding not only this issue, but others as well, and my hat's off to you for maintaining the integrity of a great site.

As someone who's been using computers since the old BBS days, people are quick to gripe about what's NOT available as opposed to what is available. Anyone who ever spent any time d/ling files to piece together to make an image, let alone a video (or animated .gif) knows just how far porn has come in the last 20 years.

Broke Straight Boys has a great roster of models, (to me, as there are only a handful who aren't my "type") and in the long run, not being able to DM a model is a speck of sand on the beach.

Now, I've rattled on long enough, time to edit the zombie love story novella I've been putting off all day.

 

[**casper**]

Wow, I did not send any threatening messages to any of the models in this place..I did not call them any names...I did not do anything that I know of that could have led them to believe I was a security problem or a danger to anyone in this place. I DID NOT DO ANY OF THAT. I have never sent a message to Tyler or any other model on this site that could have possibly been considered something to be wary about in any way.
Tyler knows what messages I sent him and I can't imagine that he would have been very troubled by any of them (I like Tyler and wanted to know more about him). I do not know if David or anyone else has read Tylers messages from me but, if they did than they should and would know (THAT I DID NOT THREATEN HIM, CALL HIM NAMES, OR DO ANYTHING MORE THAN SHARE SOME THINGS ABOUT ME AND ASK SOME THINGS ABOUT HIM) IF THEY read the messages than they know that i did not do anything that I would consider bad or cruel or degrading in anyway. The next thing I get is a message from David telling me that he couldn't believe I would ask so many personal type questions to Tyler and those would not be Answered (THAT IS HOW YOU MAKE FRIENDS DAVID...YOU ASK QUESTION AND SHARE QUESTIONS AND GET TO KNOW PEOPLE...INCLUDING PERSONAL QUESTIONS)

Now...The fact that David would have the audacity to say that I never intended on sending in my applications and photos is absolute bullshit and (I WILL TELL YOU WHY)

When I first got here i joined Broke Straight Boys and Boy Gusher because David said that the Boy Gusher site was great and so i joined it and sent in the information to get the discount that was promissed if we did join and additional site. I was mad because I did not get the discount but, (MARK HEARD ABOUT MY DILEMA AND HE TOOK CARE ( in a couple of weeks) OF IT AND I GOT MY DISCOUNT AS PROMISED AND HE WAS VERY NICE ABOUT IT) cASE CLOSED

Then I had always heard about this interview of Tyler that was going to be on the site and I waited and waited because they promised and it didn't come around...Then there is a Thread to ask questions for Tyler that was posted and I was like what the hell...i thought this was already done (I guess they lied again) and so I went ahead and wasted hours of my time to post questions to ask Tyler (TYLER IS MY FAVORITE MODEL AND I ASKED LOTS OF QUESTIONS TO HIM BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HIM ...I WAS NOT STALKING HIM OR ANYTHING OF THE KIND) I even went back and answered evey question I could for my self as a token of good will and faith....WELL THEN...you guessed it the video came out and it turns out that it really was done awhile back and then I was completely mad because i had wasted all my time trying to get to know Tyler (DAVID and MARK had both said and posted that it was alot of questions and they would try and have him answer them (WITH A RESPONSE LIKE THAT YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT THE QUESTIONS WAS GOING TO BE ASKED...BUT NOT ON THIS VIDEO APPARENTLY) because it was done along time ago. (They have said that there will be another video of Tyler answering some of the questions i asked and some of the questions others asked...and well...WE SHALL SEE)
Then I asked for more Tyler videos to be put up and I was told that they would be (MARK SAID THAT HE HAD 40 OF THEM AND THAT HE WOULD TRY TO GET ONE UP BY THE END OF THE YEAR...He did post 2 interviews with Tyler and as promised it was before the end of the year) CASE CLOSED (even though i was thinking it would be actual videos of him in action)

THE REASON I NEVER SENT IN THE APPLICATIONS AND PHOTOS WAS BECAUSE TO ME THIS PLACE HAD A CREDIBILITY ISSUE AND THEY WOULD NOT KEEP THERE WORD ABOUT WHAT THEY SAID)..Everyone of my friends on this forum know why the applications and photos were not sent in...(EVERYONE) David knows it too so the fact that he would say oh "he never had any intention of doing it anyway " is and absolute lie. And I hope I still have the messages from him and I will post them.

Then everything became worked out and everything they promised did come through finally (They even posted 2 tyler interviews before the end of the year) and so I was excited again and me and my friends were ready to do it.....THEN....guess what...(NO MORE MESSAGES TO THE MODELS)...AND DAVID HIMSELF SAID THAT APPLIED TO PAST AND FUTURE MODELS HERE AND HE WROTE IT IN HIS POST. That was when I decided that I would not send in the applications and photos because I had had enough surprises (not to mention the fact that in DAVID'S OWN STATEMENT) he said that applied to all the models..past and future..howeve he said it and that would include me if I went and got on there futon. (I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF FRIENDS THEY HAVE BUT I DON'T GIVE MINE UP FOR ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY) It was at that point that I informed my friends that I would not be going to Florida because I Would not be in any video that David made and my friends was deffinately not going to go without me. I would rather keep my friends here on the forum.

I also don't think at this point that I am likely to win any of the best video ideas..haha

I don't know what kind of a person David actually is in real life because I have not met him and he has not met me. In all fairness he did send me the phone number so that I could talk to him or Tyler, I never called the number because if they are as busy as they say....it would have been rude and inconsiderate to call them on the phone and visit with them. He has not always been in a bad mood as I do have some nice and considerate messages from him. Then He started sending me messages that were offensive and rude to me...something about he pisses and shits just like everyone else and so on and so on and I should still have those messages. (I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE UP SHIT FOR THE THRILL OF IT)..It simply turns out that what they expect you to give up is something I'm unwilling to give now because I have had enough

DAVID I truly wish you would quit insinuating that you know anything about me because you don't. I would appreciate it if you would not inform others what I was or was not going to do because in all fairness...YOU DON'T KNOW.

now with that said.....eveyone knows why i'm not going to be in Florida in a porno video. But me and my friends are still going to do one because we like the idea of being porn stars, it just won't be here.

This thread has gotten way out of line.....I just wanted to know why the priviledge was lost...thats all....and i was mad about it (all they said was for security reasons...well what the hell is the security reasons thats what i wanted to know)...Noone should be calling anyone any names rather it fits a dictionary version or not....But, with that said there is alot of anger that seems to have been settled (and not just my issues)..I didn't know why if someone was sending bad messages to any of the models I would have thought that mark would have taken them off the forum...There seems to have been alot of different things that could have been done, but, what is done...IS DONE.

Casper
P.S. I hope eveyone calms down a little because this is getting way out of hand.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

Being in direct contact with the models was never a priviledge. It should be been setup so you couldn't do it to begin with but I wasn't sure how to do it. I asked members in each thread where Logan, Tyler and other models were posting NOT to message the models directly. I also instructed models not to respond to any messages. This issue was brought to our attention because all the models had so many messages from members which I asked members not to do.

Mark

 

[SayWhat]

Am I the only one that's completely apathetic to this topic?

Please raise your hand if you don't give a shit!
*raises hand*

 

[ScottC]

Am I the only one that's completely apathetic to this topic?

Please raise your hand if you don't give a shit!
*raises hand*

Not completely, you cared enough to post about it.

 

[SayWhat]

Not completely, you cared enough to post about it.

Well I did post about the drama. But as far as the ability to send messages directly to the models - definitely don't care.

 

[ScottC]

Well I did post about the drama. But as far as the ability to send messages directly to the models - definitely don't care.

And I was just tweaking you a little bit, no offense meant. Myself, I doubt I would have ever send a public message, let alone a DM. I understand for some, the idea of exchanging messages with a model can be exhilarating. I guess I learned the hard way of what can happen when you meet people you look up to (for lack of a better phrase).

Having met some writers I've idolized over the years, there are times I've come away shocked and disappointed at their behavior. However, given some of the outbursts I've seen on this thread, if I were the models I'd be wanting as much security and privacy as possible!

 

[SayWhat]

And I was just tweaking you a little bit, no offense meant. Myself, I doubt I would have ever send a public message, let alone a DM. I understand for some, the idea of exchanging messages with a model can be exhilarating. I guess I learned the hard way of what can happen when you meet people you look up to (for lack of a better phrase).

Having met some writers I've idolized over the years, there are times I've come away shocked and disappointed at their behavior. However, given some of the outbursts I've seen on this thread, if I were the models I'd be wanting as much security and privacy as possible!

Oh I wasn't offended
Sometimes I sound snappier than intended online haha

I know what you mean, though. I think people need to keep in mind that even though these aren't scripted, there's still a "characterized" aspect to the roles that these models are playing in each shoot. Otherwise, it'd be a boring mess!

 

[ScottC]

Oh I wasn't offended
Sometimes I sound snappier than intended online haha

I know what you mean, though. I think people need to keep in mind that even though these aren't scripted, there's still a "characterized" aspect to the roles that these models are playing in each shoot. Otherwise, it'd be a boring mess!

Oh, agreed. This site caters to a certain "fetish", if you will, and David does a great job of keeping them in character. I'm not sure it would be a successful without that initial setup chatter.

 

[joninliverton]

Am I the only one that's completely apathetic to this topic?

Please raise your hand if you don't give a shit!
*raises hand*

Hand raised. Teddies and cots are appropriate here I think.

 

[joninliverton]

For a young British twink, you sure know a lot about American sixties rock n roll. (I called you a twink in the very best sense of the word).

And you are quite observant and the only one to decrypt the meaning. Of course it was meant for a particular individual but he or she didn't get it.

I love the music of the 50s 60s and 70s and in particular music from the USA. I have read lots of books on the subject but my father and uncle were very influential too. I wish I had been born in the early 50s so that I could have attended Woodstock. Not wanting to insult anyones age, but are there any members who went to Woodstock ?

 

[slimvintage]

Everyone has gotten a little pious about qwerty's bumbling mistake, and jumped on her ass rather than recognizing something David and maybe even Stephane knows very very well. A lot of boys who appear in gay porn videos with each other also do what David has called on occasion, "dancing" and "escorting". I think he once said about a certain squeakyclean model that he's a nice kid and doesn't dance or escort or anything like that. It may be that this applies to every single Broke Straight Boys right from the day Chris the Army guy made porn history with that goofy shoot on the first futon, but...

Lap dancing is certainly different from and more "serious" than gettin' up on the bar, shakin' your booty in (or out) of your tightywhities and getting tipped by the guys gathered around lovin' it. But it's a difference of degree not of kind. As far as escorting is concerned I know from experience something that, if you haven't been propositioned by a really hot guy, you wouldn't normally know yourself. It's actually flattering to be asked nicely if you would consider selling yourself haha. When I was Casper's age I was getting that a lot, and one of the times I said yes was super cool. I was more interested in barter than payment, and in this case it was an airticket to London in exchange for a night with him. I bragged like hell for the entire trip to the girl next to me how I'd got my seat on the plane. Whoring is such a relative concept. A friend whose daddy had this huge place in Palm Beach asked 3 of us Delta Psi brothers down for Easter break. There was a dance at the Racquet Club (?) or somewhere like that, maybe Dave knows what it's called, and one of the socialites who asked me to dance whispered sexily in my ear, "...are you for sale?". I told one of the other guys what was going down with her when the music stopped, so he danced the next dance. He was really worried the rest of the break because he didn't get asked the question. I love the idea that sex can be very civilly bought and sold without it's degrading either of the protagonists. I'd be interested to know how many of the cute dudes who've appeared on the futon have had similar experiences to those I had when I was their age, but don't expect to find out, no sir, I don't expect to find out.


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[ScottC]

Slim- I don't see anyone getting pious, as no one has said one is better than the other, or that someone is looking down on anyone who hustle.

If you choose not see the difference between porn and hustling, that's fine, but you do the models a disservice by lumping it all together, even if you couch it with what you refer to as "a difference of degree, not kind".

Do I think some of the models may have hustled before Broke Straight Boys or while modeling for Broke Straight Boys? Possibly, but that's not the issue, nor is it what qwerty referred to.

 

[mikeyank]

And you are quite observant and the only one to decrypt the meaning. Of course it was meant for a particular individual but he or she didn't get it.

I love the music of the 50s 60s and 70s and in particular music from the USA. I have read lots of books on the subject but my father and uncle were very influential too. I wish I had been born in the early 50s so that I could have attended Woodstock. Not wanting to insult anyones age, but are there any members who went to Woodstock ?

Nothing insulting to be of the age to have attended Woodstock. I was 19 that summer and living in New York City was only a short drive away, however none of my friends were driving and so I remained home. One of my friend's family had a summer house in Goshen New York, so he was able to go there and at least hear the music. But I was totally into the weekend, listening to radio reports on the FM rock stations and following the reports on television news. I have certainly seen the Woodstock movie many times, and do feel like I was there.

And the next year at my college, we had our own mini Woodstock, with a stage set up in the fields, and had acts including Grace Slick with Jefferson Airplane, Joe Cocker and his Mad Dogs & Englishman Tour, and other major groups whom I can't remember at this time. It was a fun weekend with lots of beer and drugs and shirtless college boys all around.

 

[slimvintage]

Slim- I don't see anyone getting pious, as no one has said one is better than the other, or that someone is looking down on anyone who hustle.

If you choose not see the difference between porn and hustling, that's fine, but you do the models a disservice by lumping it all together, even if you couch it with what you refer to as "a difference of degree, not kind".

Do I think some of the models may have hustled before Broke Straight Boys or while modeling for Broke Straight Boys? Possibly, but that's not the issue, nor is it what qwerty referred to.

I take your point: she was saying that doing porn is the same as hustling. So OK.

In fact I think I may have just wanted to share my own story to try to help demythologize the phenomenon of prostitution, and moved off topic to do it. Nonetheless I don't think the equation on her part of doing porn and selling your ass should bring down the wrath of a bunch of us on the single female with the balls to post on this board. I think she's just a simple soul who has simplistic views on things like this. I may be wrong, but a post of hers last week seems to have stimulated the idea for the Director for a Day contest which popped up a couple of days after she posted. She's a valuable member of the forum.

 

[ScottC]

I take your point: she was saying that doing porn is the same as hustling. So OK.

In fact I think I may have just wanted to share my own story to try to help demythologize the phenomenon of prostitution, and moved off topic to do it. Nonetheless I don't think the equation on her part of doing porn and selling your ass should bring down the wrath of a bunch of us on the single female with the balls to post on this board. I think she's just a simple soul who has simplistic views on things like this. I may be wrong, but a post of hers last week seems to have stimulated the idea for the Director for a Day contest which popped up a couple of days after she posted. She's a valuable member of the forum.

Here's my thought on that, and then I'll drop it. Qwerty, whether male, female or transgender, makes no difference to me. Ignorance is ignorance regardless of where it comes from. To treat her any differently than someone else because of her gender is pretty darn condescending.

Perhaps having known a hustler or two in my life as well as porn stars and having them be equated as the same things, chaps my hide a bit. There's a totally different mindset and process between the two.

Harlan Ellison said it best, I think: "People do not have a right to an opinion. They do however, have a right to an informed opinion".