My curiosity about the BSB Boys

[johnny]

Hi, I know ice just posted but I didn't want to include this in that post as its a separate topic. I just wanted to say after reading all of your true friend friendship stories it has brought a tear to my eye literally as it has made me so envious and I'm not afraid to admit a bit jealous. I dont mean any of that in a nasty way please please believe me of that its just that I have never had the opportunity of having any of that or experiencing any of it because as you all know I've been having to live a lie since early childhood and so ive never had a true friend as I've been having to put up a shield to protect my secret all my life. I'm sorry if ive put a downer on things i just thought it would make you understand me better. Take care new friends and god bless. x

No downer here Dan. I am glad to be your friend. I may even write to Carol King and see if she can write a song about this.
(((( You Are A Sweetheart.))))
Love...
Your Friend....
johnny...

 

[danleeh1984]

I do understand what you're saying Dan. I was lucky to have a gay best friend since age 11. We met in the boy scouts at age 11. He was cute even as a kid, skinny blonde hair always in his eyes, cute kid. He must have seen something in me that he approached me and we wound up discovering sex together. We kept fooling around together until college, when we stopped having sex together, but are still friends to this day.

It must be very difficult never having anyone you could talk about being gay with. I'm glad you found our little family Dan. You can be yourself here.

thank you so much that means a lot most of you have become the Freinds I wish I could of had from day 1 and thank you for allowing me to be free. X

 

[tampa24]

Does anyone like cheese?

We're going to smother you Jon in all kinds of cheesy, sickly sweet, syrupy posts to each other...like a bunch of lovesick little schoolgirls, until you're ready to scream ...or go into a diabetic coma. Whichever comes first. haha xoxo

 

[tampa24]

thank you so much that means a lot most of you have become the Freinds I wish I could of had from day 1 and thank you for allowing me to be free. X

I'm so happy for you Dan to have finally found an outlet in your life where you can truly be yourself among other likeminded people. Carrying my secret for as long as I did just ate me up from the inside out. I can't imagine what it would be like to carry that secret for several decades without any respite or outlet.

Big hugs Dan! x

When they started up this forum probably with just the limited narrow goal of getting more direct feedback on the content provided, could they have had any idea how much it would actually help people in their personal lives?

 

[mikeyank]

When they started up this forum probably with just the limited narrow goal of getting more direct feedback on the content provided, could they have had any idea how much it would actually help people in their personal lives?

I couldn't agree more Tampa. In fact, without the forum I would have left a site a long time ago, when the content started to bore me*, but the forum became something major in my life. I would have to think that Mark is very pleased that a forum he started for one purpose has become something so much more to so many of us.

*And by the way, with the emergence of new models like Dimitri, Ronan Kennedy and Tyler, I have a renewed interest in the porn on the site as well.

 

[mtfrc81]

"A picture is worth 1,000 words," at least. These two met through Broke Straight Boys, moved to Denver together, for Broke Straight Boys, and are about to travel on vacation together back down to Florida. Their chemistry is palpable; just sayin'.

Honestly, I could care less if either of these two guys are gay. They are my favorite guys on the site. It sure seems like these guys are very good friends. If Broke Straight Boys brought them together regardless of their orientation then that's great. I hope whatever goes on between them continues to grow.

 

[mtfrc81]

As I have said many time, I really don't give a shit! If the guys are happy and they seem to have fun, I'm all in. As far as the "Broke Straight Boys," how about "Broke Satisfied Boys?!" Just sayin'

Perfectly stated!!!!

 

[mtfrc81]

Its cute that everyone thinks we are together. Honestly I dont mind it at all. We laugh about it all the time because its true we are very close but that's it folks

I'm glad you guys laugh about all of this. You guys being such good friends is such a great thing. I'm glad you guys "found" each other and it has worked out so well. Truly, I wish your friendship many more years to come!

 

[johnny]

Honestly, I could care less if either of these two guys are gay. They are my favorite guys on the site. It sure seems like these guys are very good friends. If Broke Straight Boys brought them together regardless of their orientation then that's great. I hope whatever goes on between them continues to grow.

If that picture don't raise your spirits ? I don't know what to say....They sure are CUTE...Raise mine......Spirits...

 

[mtfrc81]

Has anyone ever had a best friend ? I did . I loved him more than anyone in my life. He died. We both had partners but they new nothing would come between Richard and I.
We hugged we kissed we walked hand and hand. We were gay. But we both had are own partners.
Are own houses. We were roommates for a while .We lived together between love affairs. We never had sex. We partied together.
Everyone thought we were boyfriends . But we were Best Friends.
We talked every day. Every night. We traveled together we wore each others clothes. We brushed each others hair .
We were Best Friends.

We were young together and like Paul and Damien we were beautiful together.

I could go on and on .We picked out tricks for each other. We never had sex. But that was not part of are jobs.

When he passed it was his partner his Mother and I in his room. We were all equal in are love for him. This is a hard one for me
because of the way I write. It is hard to explain how much a Best Friend can mean. Or how close you can be. To another man
and not have to be boyfriends. Or how lucky I felt to have him in my life

So Paul and Damien have posted a lot of pictures of themselves on Facebook never more than real good friends.
Who maybe love each other?
How Great...
There is nothing better than having a close buddy. A Best Friend, Whatever there relationship is ?
I Hope they are happy.
They are two beautiful young men that give me a lot of pleasure. In the JOB they WORK at.

This is a great post. I have been looking for such a friend all of my life... it hasn't really happen yet... I hope someday it will. In many ways this is more important to me than other more "serious" relationships. Love and emotion do not have to involve the bedroom.

 

[Fletch]

I've had several very close male friends who were straight. I would even call some of my relationships with them "romantic friendships." Occasionally, they included sex. But this didn't change the fact that these guys' primary attraction was to women. I'm writing a novel right now, and one story is about two straight-identified men who fall in love with each other. I know some of you will say, "Um, that's the definition of gay." But I think sexuality is much much more complex than that. It's definitely not a standard recognizable coming out story. I guess one way of looking at it is this: When I've been in loving relationships with straight men and it turned sexual, sex for me was the expression of my love and desire, whereas sex for him was purely an expression of love. He had sex with me to show that love for me, but it was always clear that there wasn't an innate attraction to me. The best analogy for sex between two straight men I can think of came from a girlfriend I had in high school: "It was like chocolate chip cookies without the chocolate chips." It's a dessert, it's sweet, it's the same shape, and it will do in a pinch, and eventually you can think of it as a sugar cookie and maybe disregard the lack of chips. But you're always going to crave the chocolate chips.

One of the guys I loved repeatedly said to me, "Why couldn't you have been born a woman?!" I didn't take offense to this at all; in fact, in that moment I would have switched genders just to be with him. That's not a feeling I ever had at any other time in my life; it was specific to that relationship. So in my book I'm trying to imagine the difficulties and the rewards that two straight men would have in a relationship together. Rewards: they get to confirm their love for each other; they complement each other, and are there for the other. Difficulties: pressures from both straights and gays to get them to identify as "gay." (grey areas make people very nervous; it's one of humanity's most regrettable traits); having to decide to forgo acting on their major attractions; figuring out what to do with their feelings for women; feeling stifled in a closed relationship but feeling guilty in an open relationship.

On paper, it may look like two men could have a totally emotional relationship with one another and a totally sexual relationship with a women, but, like I said, sexuality's just not that simple, and neither are relationships; they kind of take on a character of their own. We're in a culture that insists on a strong overlap of sex and love, and even if you rebel against that notion, it's hard to discount it altogether. I'm not sure what the fate of this relationship in the book will be yet--(actually I think I do; I just don't want to think about that part yet.) It would be amazingly cool if I could find 2 straight guys who had fallen in love with each other, so I could ask them questions about the ins and outs of their situation, but I have a feeling those relationships are hard to find, even at a place like Broke Straight Boys I'll probably just have to draw on what I know about my past "friends"' feelings about me, and then extrapolate to the other person's mirroring those feelings. Doing the relationship justice in all of its dimensions is going to be hard, but I look forward to the challenge.

So long story short, step it up dammit, Damien, and propose to that bitch Paul! Then I can pick both your brains. (just kidding: I know you guys aren't in that situation.)

 

[Fletch]

One of the guys in the relationship in the book thinks about fucking a woman when he's fucking his boyfriend. When this come out, it becomes a major problem. Is what he does some kind of betrayal, or is it just a technique to effectively convey his love physically? If a guy needs to think about a woman's body to perform sexually, is he dishonest or generous? That's what they have to decide, and I bet most people have very conflicted feelings about this.

 

[tampa24]

Dear Fletch,

Your book sounds fascinating. It will certainly evoke praise, consternation, soul searching and lively conversation among any groups of people who discuss the scenarios in the book. I really like that it challenges people's perceptions and long held beliefs of what human relationships are supposed to be like.

 

[betudidntknow]

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Bromance

Describes the complicated love and affection shared by two straight males.

Steve: Ah, Dave!!! I can't believe you stole this first pressing of Aladdin Sane from your record store for me. We were just talking about this the other night.

Dave: No sweat, pal.

Steve: That is some full-on bromance. You're the man.

by fletchlives May 30, 2005