Migrating Models - boon or curse? BSB definitely impressively FLEXIBLE!!!

[caribou]

In the past couple of years the movement of models between pornsites has seemingly increased.
Broke Straight Boys must be commended for striving to sustain for the most part high quality standards in models and consistently IMPROVING CAMERA-magic!!!!!
Broke Straight Boys has brought in a mix of the really good, the decent and the satisfactory befitting a range of tastes.
Past Broke Straight Boys models and Present Broke Straight Boys have moved to or been seen in the following porn venues:
- Boys Halfway House
- Helix
- Boys on Edge
- MEN
- BROMO
- ColbyKnox
- College Dudes
- Boys First Time
- Fraternity X
- Sketchy Sex
- Raunchy Boy
- Dude Dorm
- Haze Him
- Reality Dudes

 

[Repareur]

I think there is a shortage of guys willing to do porn these days and let's face it if you are a guy willing to do it and want to make money, no single site is probably going to be profitable enough except maybe an exclusive contract at Men.com

 

[mikeyank]

I think there is a shortage of guys willing to do porn these days and let's face it if you are a guy willing to do it and want to make money, no single site is probably going to be profitable enough except maybe an exclusive contract at Men.com

From everything I've read from both fans who check out a lot of internet porn, and from some folks in the industry, that does seem to explain what is going on today in a nutshell. Apparently, this is not a great time in the industry for either the models or the sites.

 

[nickbrady]

We have all enjoyed the scenes from the early days (BSB1?) with models who fit the image young straight guys experiencing their first gay sex - gay for pay. My question is why it no longer is possible to recruit these kinds of guys? It has been suggested that it's because of the proliferation of gay porn sites which has diminished the pool of guys willing to do this sort of work. But I don't really buy that. Almost all gay porn sites use gay professional models who were not the type we expected to see here.

It has also been suggested that it is because there are many fewer amateur models applying to Broke Straight Boys for employment, again because of the increased competition. I'm not sure I buy that either.

I don't think that many of the early models took the initiative to contact Broke Straight Boys and ask for work. I had the impression that Broke Straight Boys staff went around to malls, car shows, etc. and recruited young guys to come model, maybe have some fun, and get paid for it. Some of these guys were cute and quite hot, some were pretty ordinary, but they were fresh, original, and real. We believed that what we saw was real and The reactions of these guys was genuine, rather than carefully scripted. They were reluctant or enthusiastic depending on their notions of what was to come, but it was genuine. Now we have scenes done by nice looking gay men who have worked elsewhere in the porn industry prior to doing scenes for us.

Well, that's all well and good, but what prevents Broke Straight Boys staff from going back to the mall? I think it's because the expectations of the bulk of the subscribers has changed. I think that it is mostly we dinosaurs who post here that miss the good old days. There are a larger group of subscribers who want to see hot gay guys have sex with each other without all the talk before the action starts. And that's what Broke Straight Boys is giving them.

Maybe there are other reason, but it is interesting to talk about. What do you think?

 

[mikeyank]

We have all enjoyed the scenes from the early days (BSB1?) with models who fit the image young straight guys experiencing their first gay sex - gay for pay. My question is why it no longer is possible to recruit these kinds of guys? It has been suggested that it's because of the proliferation of gay porn sites which has diminished the pool of guys willing to do this sort of work. But I don't really buy that. Almost all gay porn sites use gay professional models who were not the type we expected to see here.

It has also been suggested that it is because there are many fewer amateur models applying to BSB for employment, again because of the increased competition. I'm not sure I buy that either.

I don't think that many of the early models took the initiative to contact BSB and ask for work. I had the impression that BSB staff went around to malls, car shows, etc. and recruited young guys to come model, maybe have some fun, and get paid for it. Some of these guys were cute and quite hot, some were pretty ordinary, but they were fresh, original, and real. We believed that what we saw was real and The reactions of these guys was genuine, rather than carefully scripted. They were reluctant or enthusiastic depending on their notions of what was to come, but it was genuine. Now we have scenes done by nice looking gay men who have worked elsewhere in the porn industry prior to doing scenes for us.

Well, that's all well and good, but what prevents BSB staff from going back to the mall? I think it's because the expectations of the bulk of the subscribers has changed. I think that it is mostly we dinosaurs who post here that miss the good old days. There are a larger group of subscribers who want to see hot gay guys have sex with each other without all the talk before the action starts. And that's what BSB is giving them.

Maybe there are other reason, but it is interesting to talk about. What do you think?

From my perspective that is an excellent post nickbrady as you are obviously "preaching to the choir" in me and to my tastes. First your final paragraph is important in that there are subscribers who've joined Broke Straight Boys along the way, who did not join this site for the same reasons that you and I did, and who very well may be very satisfied with the current caliber of models, which is well and good for them. I question if there are as many members today as a few years ago, but that is none of our business as Broke Straight Boys is a privately owned business and has no obligation to open their books to the customers, but it is just a theory on my part.

As far as the reasons that they can and do not hire the same kind of guys are many fold. One is that kids today are not as naive as they may have been eight to ten years ago thinking then that what they filmed for a gay audience on a web site will remain private. We learned from BTS and pre sex interviews with many of the early models that they were surprised and sometimes embarrassed when they were recognized from the site when back at home using their real names. Blake Bennet spoke extensively of losing some of his friends who discovered what he was doing, and others had their families find out and threaten to cut them off financially. Today young people are a lot more savvy in knowing that whatever goes on line is there forever.

Also with webcam sites kids can make money right from their own homes with buddies or alone and not have to travel to a porn studio. And with all porn being shown on "tube sites" for free, subscriptions are down in the industry in general, both gay and straight and studios pay less money for models today than yesterday.

And so, the industry has more "hard core" guys who don't care who knows what they do and they go from studio to studio to make as much money as they can while they can. These are some of the basic things I've learned about why things are different today than yesterday. This is just my understanding and if I am wrong, I'd appreciate for management or for other fans to please correct me.

 

[CRandallB]

I agree with Mikeyank--and would like to take some of his opinions further. gay sex is not the taboo among younger men, gay or str8, that is was even just ten years ago.

I have posted about my views on labeling male sexuality before, and I think some of the difficulty in going out to prospect for models not being as effective as before is that the pool of young men who have not engaged in homoeroticism is dwindling. I have no proof or anything, but just from comments and discussions on other sites (not porn sites) regarding "my first time" stories and such and the over-all either positive responses or "so what?" responses, I get the definite impression some experience with male on male sex is much more common--openly common, as opposed to what most young men have ALWAYS experimented with but never made public thruout the past several generations (an aside, have run across several 'net discussions regarding same sex activities during WW II which was not seen as remarkable at all at the time--boys just being boys--sleeping and having sex on the decks of warships, etc. and should keep in mind until McCarthyism, post WW II, male on male sex wasn't considered parlor room discussion material, but also wasn't considered a big fricking deal either.)--so the pool of young men to be prospected are now more fully aware of just what such "acting" is worth or do not find the prospect of having that pivate part of their lives spread all oiver the 'net.

Or if they want to cash in, they do it themselves without the need for a studio. All it takes is a cellphone and an instagram account.

I also don't think these younger guys see their same-sex experiences as anything remarkable. Porn is all over the 'net, they have access to self-publish their experiences and/or just don't see it as something marketable. If a recruiter walked thru a mall today and approached young men, the majority of the responses would prolly be "sure I've had sex with another guy--so what?" So, there is less of a pool to recruit from. those interested in recording their sexcapades can reap any monetary reward directly. those not interested simply say no.

or if it's just for the money, they want too much, as jobs suck and they want to cash in for the most they can get.

I also think there is the bottom line for ther studios. random recruiting takes time, time is money, so which is more financially sustainable for the studio? sending out recruiters who will be turned down more often than not, or flipping thru a catalogue provided by an agency which has already done the leg work?

Models used to apply to Broke Straight Boys on the site--I just don't think that happens as much anymore. Or why would Broke Straight Boys pay modeling agencies?

it's all due to the changing concepts and acceptability of same sex activity among younger men. the very concept of NOT labeling male sexuality has reduced the availability of young men who have not yet had the experience if they were going to. money not withstanding.

and also, because money is so tight, and young men remain dependent on their parents financially far longer than ever before, the threat of being cut off WHEN not IF their parents find out is real.

So, we get what we get unless studios like Broke Straight Boys start trolling bus stations to exploit truly desperate young men like any other low-life pimp.

 

[CRandallB]

this discussion makes me think of cousins Mike and Anthony who began on Broke Straight Boys with the assertion, well, Anthony, anyway, that he had not had male on male sex--only to find out later, that he and Mike had indeed had sexual encounters with each other when minors. (another notch on my NOT labeling male sexuality belt as Anthony, the str8 cousin, preferred to bottom while Mike, the gay cousin, preferred to top and actually gave up his virgin hole on Broke Straight Boys--talk about a situation in which male sexuality completely escaped labeling--those two were THE example of that.)

10 or so years later, this scenario is far more open and socially recognized so unless Broke Straight Boys wants to recruit minors, again, the pool of young male on male virgins gets shallower every day.

and malls are dead anyway--LOL!!

 

[Repareur]

I agree with most of the above. Young men these days are more media savy for sure. They probably do realize that people they know will end up seeing them if they do porn. This being said, there are low budget sites that get more or less average straight guys to have sex. Sometimes they get someone really hot who turns out to like it. I'm quite sure Broke Straight Boys could pay guys to scout more. It looks like they have gone the way of the other big studios that have gone for better staging and cameras and a pool of models shared by all. It seems like there is some recruitment of strippers in gay nightclubs. I would think that would be an easy one. Guys who strip for women are probably too old to meet the age criteria. I don't know, but I see almost no effort to really find straight boys now days, unless it's a porn actor who will still say he is straight.