Josh 4/30

[rrhill]

Clay is developing his own style in directing video's. Josh is a nice guy and I like the interview, location and setup. Sixteen minutes is way too long for a solo. After 10 minutes I start "fast forwarding" to the cumshot. A shorter video would work more powerful; less is more.

(And because we are still watching the first series of video's; yes there was some money play, live with it for now)

 

[Arckangel]

Great episode! Whole body shots, from head to soles. Perfect!

 

[Markymark]

Yep! I think we're finally getting on track here. Great Job, everyone!

 

[centex]

Good video keep up the good work. Josh was a pleasant guy and he did a fantastic job. Clay great choice .

 

[cumrag27]

Maybe it is just me

Not being a product of the Great Depression of the 1930's myself, we as a country had an endless parade of destitute young people back then who did practically anything to get a little better off financially. We had marathon dancing in dance halls nationwide where people made themselves available as possible dance partners for "a dime a dance". Then, in the late 1960's or early 70's we had a movie that was entitled "They shoot horses, don't they"? that told of young couples in the 1920's and 30's participating in a fruitless pursuit that would involve their participation in dancing marathons where the phrase "dance till they drop" was coined to signify those, who out of economic hardship were strapped on with their own belts to their partner to hold up their physically exhausted dance partner so they might as a couple be lucky enough to win the prize as the longest-lasting dance couple of the night.

I don't know about anyone else, but I hate for the nations to be stuck in hard times financially speaking. I realize this is many people's reality today here in the US. But for Broke Straight Boys to be making this sad theme the "bread and butter" of practically every new episode is extremely depressing to watch. In many unfortunate ways, it chronicles our country falling away from its former glorious self of the ever creative economic and industrial powerhouse along the path of economic ruin for the multitudes of regular people. This consistent theme is anything but something but what would make me sexually stimulated. I realize these scenarios are just that and probably most guys agreeing to be models are truly not homeless, destitute young men. But I have to ask the obvious, "who among us really needs all this overpowering hopelessness to be a constant reminder, being rubbed into the face of those members viewing these porn scenes at home?

The fact that supposed genuinely "straight guys" are so readily willing to compromise their most basic sexual premise for a few lousy bucks should set off warning lights that we members are complicit in taking advantage of someone truly down on their luck, financially speaking. It is a sad commentary in and of itself. I have to ask myself, isn't it a far more positive message and potential scenario to emphasize the inherent "curiosity" aspect to sexuality exploring the sexual possibilities that exist with greater accessibility than ever for the current generation of young sexually appealing males due to overpowering sexual urges from testosterone, the greater acceptability of exploratory sexual activity, and widespread tolerance of more diverse sexual experiences.

I just think that any web site limiting itself to only one overriding theme has to get boring and predictable much quicker than one that has a sexual repertoire that includes many scenarios. This is intended as constructive and therefore positive criticism that is intended to extend the shelf-life of Broke Straight Boys-2.

Sincerely,


Stimpy

 

[chase3398]

Very well expressed Stimpy. That thought had also crossed my mind. Curiosity and the need for some extra cash was a theme that worked well in the past. However, since these boys know only too well what is going to happen ahead of time, it may be a moot point. But, for those watching, I think your suggestion is very valid. After all, Jimmy went on a Broke Straight Boys event to NYC....what does that tell us.

 

[mikeyank]

Very well expressed Stimpy. That thought had also crossed my mind. Curiosity and the need for some extra cash was a theme that worked well in the past. However, since these boys know only too well what is going to happen ahead of time, it may be a moot point. But, for those watching, I think your suggestion is very valid. After all, Jimmy went on a Broke Straight Boys event to NYC....what does that tell us.

Actually Chase, if you recall or want to go back into the vast archives of Broke Straight Boys, I would say that 95% or more of David's model's claimed that they were there for the cash only. Very few expressed an interest in gay sex for the curiosity. Of course all of the past and present scenes are scripted to a degree, and the model's true motivations for appearing on the site, were often not a part of the on screen scenario presented.

And I agree 100% that Jimmy's appearance at the Broke Straight Boys event shows that he is not the "homophobe" that he portrayed in his earliest scenes here. He spent several days in a hotel room, touring the city and appearing at gay events with gay folks. And the "Jimmy & Jamie" unreleased video which appeared on the site shows me that he can be playful in his gay sex scenes and his rock hard dick while being sucked shows that he he may protesth too much, but the idea of fucking Jamie appealed to him, and he sure gets off on having another dude swinging on his cock.

Going back to David's earliest scenes on Broke Straight Boys 1, I learned to never take the back story too seriously. It is all designed to present us a plausible situation to engage a straight boy in gay sex. Broke Straight Boys is afterall a fantasy site set in a reality format. When the models and the sex is hot, it has been working for me for the last two and a half years.

 

[Smiley]

Stimpy, I couldn't disagree with you more.

It's not that I don't accept your underlying premise that something is seriously amiss in our country, but that is a political discussion not appropriate to this thread. In fact, we have a thread open to that effect right now.

But your point that BSB2.0 is pressing too strongly the straight-guys-get-money-for-gay-sex meme is wrong. Instead, that is exactly what Mark should be doing.

I had to reboot my business a couple of times to match the inevitable drift stores go through. You think, "If we sell this, too, we can make an extra buck." There's nothing wrong with that idea, and even more to the point, it works. You do make an extra buck. So the next time a new selling opportunity comes up, you go for it. Pretty soon, your core business is secondary. You start losing focus on that core business, and when the market changes and that core business drops, your sales drop, too. The peripheral things you are selling aren't enough to keep business up, and you stumble. If you don't react fast enough, you're out of business all together.

The classic example of this is Pan Am. They had a very successful airline and invested the profits in everything else under the sun. They let the airline get fat and non-competitive, and when the economic and oil price shocks of the late 1970s and early '80s hit them, they tried to sell all of these side interests to rescue the airline. It was too late and Pan Am was gone.

Similarly, since Broke Straight Boys was first established, the gay porn market has grown with many imitators and similar sites. There is brokestraightguys, brokestraightbuddies, brokestraightmen, nakedstr8men, and the list goes on. Or there are slight variations like hazehim and dickdorm. You want straight guys having gay sex with twists on the theme? Your choices are many.

The smartest thing Mark has done with BSB2.0 is get back to his core principle of seemingly really straight guys having gay sex for money. I think Clay has taken it too far sometimes with the "faggot" talk and all of the self-loathing going on with the models, but that's a matter of tweaking the scripts. This can't become a "straight guys a bit curious about gay sex" website. For folks who want that site, I'm sure it's out there. In fact, I'm sure it's out there times ten. And that bi-curious attitude may be what's happening with some of the models in real life, but on screen, it has to be strictly gay-for-pay. Mark has to re-define his brand. Strip the rest away. Get back to core principles again.

That's why the foot-fetish video so totally freaked me out. That is exactly the wrong direction for this site. I'm sorry for markymark's partner, Carl, who loved that video, but it shouldn't be here. If Clay wants to play a fetish for a joke, as in the fish, that's OK. Everyone knows he's kidding. But for right now to try and make this site appeal to all of the various sexual quirks of its members, is a recipe for failure.

With time, after a thorough rebranding of Broke Straight Boys as back to "really straight boys having gay sex for money", which could take six months to a year, then Clay can play around with these side sexual attractions. But right now my advice to Mark and Clay would be focus, focus, focus.

Which, fortunately, seems to be exactly what they are doing.

 

[RSand88]

before he put additional fingers in (or did I make that up?)

Mark, when can we see more of Josh?

 

[RSand88]

Forget about the previous posting, some of it got lost.

I loved Josh and hope to see much more of him, despite the fact that the episode was not truly believable.

This episode was shot in April so some of our comments must have been taken into consideration.

Josh is worth ten Jimmys!

Did anyone notice that, after he had put one finger in his ass, he licked that same finger off before he put additional fingers in (or was that my imagination?).

If I have one complaint it is that silly beard.

Mark, when will we see more of Josh?

 

[cumrag27]

A failed recipe for a "member" with "sexual quirks"

Stimpy, I couldn't disagree with you more.

It's not that I don't accept your underlying premise that something is seriously amiss in our country, but that is a political discussion not appropriate to this thread. In fact, we have a thread open to that effect right now.

But your point that BSB2.0 is pressing too strongly the straight-guys-get-money-for-gay-sex meme is wrong. Instead, that is exactly what Mark should be doing.

I had to reboot my business a couple of times to match the inevitable drift stores go through. You think, "If we sell this, too, we can make an extra buck." There's nothing wrong with that idea, and even more to the point, it works. You do make an extra buck. So the next time a new selling opportunity comes up, you go for it. Pretty soon, your core business is secondary. You start losing focus on that core business, and when the market changes and that core business drops, your sales drop, too. The peripheral things you are selling aren't enough to keep business up, and you stumble. If you don't react fast enough, you're out of business all together.

The classic example of this is Pan Am. They had a very successful airline and invested the profits in everything else under the sun. They let the airline get fat and non-competitive, and when the economic and oil price shocks of the late 1970s and early '80s hit them, they tried to sell all of these side interests to rescue the airline. It was too late and Pan Am was gone.

Similarly, since Broke Straight Boys was first established, the gay porn market has grown with many imitators and similar sites. There is brokestraightguys, brokestraightbuddies, brokestraightmen, nakedstr8men, and the list goes on. Or there are slight variations like hazehim and dickdorm. You want straight guys having gay sex with twists on the theme? Your choices are many.

The smartest thing Mark has done with BSB2.0 is get back to his core principle of seemingly really straight guys having gay sex for money. I think Clay has taken it too far sometimes with the "faggot" talk and all of the self-loathing going on with the models, but that's a matter of tweaking the scripts. This can't become a "straight guys a bit curious about gay sex" website. For folks who want that site, I'm sure it's out there. In fact, I'm sure it's out there times ten. And that bi-curious attitude may be what's happening with some of the models in real life, but on screen, it has to be strictly gay-for-pay. Mark has to re-define his brand. Strip the rest away. Get back to core principles again.

That's why the foot-fetish video so totally freaked me out. That is exactly the wrong direction for this site. I'm sorry for markymark's partner, Carl, who loved that video, but it shouldn't be here. If Clay wants to play a fetish for a joke, as in the fish, that's OK. Everyone knows he's kidding. But for right now to try and make this site appeal to all of the various sexual quirks of its members, is a recipe for failure.

With time, after a thorough rebranding of Broke Straight Boys as back to "really straight boys having gay sex for money", which could take six months to a year, then Clay can play around with these side sexual attractions. But right now my advice to Mark and Clay would be focus, focus, focus.

Which, fortunately, seems to be exactly what they are doing.

Dear Smiley,

I sometimes feel that some fundamentalist televangelist has gotten the reins of management and has gotten the membership by the balls down the "straight and narrow" that only allows one ball per paying customer. After all cuts have to be made and a small sacrifice is not too much to ask! We're only talking sacrificing one testicle, after all. I don't know how you feel exactly, but I have had two balls all of my life, some 63 years, and I am not about to sacrifice one of the precious two that came as standard equipment.

I am not about to get into your business acumen. Obviously, you have a lot of practical experience, talk the talk of a true businessman, and I generally value experience. But, the logic you are using is precisely why Wal Mart may be successful, yet if you want something really special, Wal Mart is the wrong place to shop. They do not deliver what they promise which is one-stop shopping. If you want some everyday item that simply doesn't have enough "sales volume" despite they have loyal customers, it gets pulled from the list of items stores may order from.

This is not a customer driven decision, this is merely a statistical decision based on "inventory turnover" and nothing more. People lie all the time with statistics and what they pull out from its interpretation. If all we want from Broke Straight Boys is to operate on this basis, then I guess I can go to hell. Customer loyalty be dammed. It is like Henry Ford telling customers you can get this car in any color as long as it is black!

It is almost like some "fundamentalist televangelist" saying "there is only ONE WAY to salvation, the "straight and narrow". That message has always turned me off! That only makes me want to abandon ship that much more! I guess the SS Stimpy can pull her anchors and sail away never to return to Broke Straight Boys and forumland, or at least that is what my GPS/Gaydar is displaying now!


SS Stimpy about to sail into the sunset!

 

[mikeyank]

The smartest thing Mark has done with BSB2.0 is get back to his core principle of seemingly really straight guys having gay sex for money. I think Clay has taken it too far sometimes with the "faggot" talk and all of the self-loathing going on with the models, but that's a matter of tweaking the scripts. This can't become a "straight guys a bit curious about gay sex" website. For folks who want that site, I'm sure it's out there. In fact, I'm sure it's out there times ten. And that bi-curious attitude may be what's happening with some of the models in real life, but on screen, it has to be strictly gay-for-pay. Mark has to re-define his brand. Strip the rest away. Get back to core principles again.

Exactly, Smiley!!!

 

[mikeyank]

This is not a customer driven decision, this is merely a statistical decision based on "inventory turnover" and nothing more. People lie all the time with statistics and what they pull out from its interpretation. If all we want from Broke Straight Boys is to operate on this basis, then I guess I can go to hell. Customer loyalty be dammed. It is like Henry Ford telling customers you can get this car in any color as long as it is black!

It is almost like some "fundamentalist televangelist" saying "there is only ONE WAY to salvation, the "straight and narrow". That message has always turned me off! That only makes me want to abandon ship that much more! I guess the SS Stimpy can pull her anchors and sail away never to return to Broke Straight Boys and forumland, or at least that is what my GPS/Gaydar is displaying now!


SS Stimpy about to sail into the sunset!

Stimpy, you are a passionate caring forumite who truly cares about this site, and that is totally admirable, as I also consider myself a passionate devotee of Broke Straight Boys However there is a clear divide in what various customers desire here. When you say "Customer loyalty be dammed", you are obviously speaking from your own perspective. As a loyal customer myself, I almost "abandoned ship" a few times over the last year, when the model's and scenes being presented appeared way off course from the site I originally signed up for.

There is no right or wrong in this situation, and your idea of customer satisfaction and mine are diametrically opposed, but I would never say that you are wrong, only that we disagree.

If the new direction that Mark has driven this site to, is distasteful to you, there is nothing wrong with your leaving the site, as several other former member's have done. I would miss you terribly here, but I understand that you should not be throwing away your money on a product that you despise.

But I would suggest that you not be angry with Mark for making the changes, as he is a business owner and his loyalty has to be to his bottom line, just as your decision on how to spend your discretionary income is based on your needs and your bottom line. Life changes, way too rapidly from my perspective, but one must adjust to circumstances.

Whatever you decide to do in regard to your membership here, I truly wish you all of my best wishes, as you are a very good man with a heart of gold, and I want to see you happy, as life is too short to be a place that upsets or angers you.

 

[lubetube]

Let's see here, so far we've seen a homeless man living under a bridge, a dude who has to fish for his dinner. And a guy doing all sorts of odd jobs cause he was let go from a Subway's that wasn't doing well.

Is this Broke Straight Boys or a John Steinbeck novel? lol

This was Clay's most polished episode so far, but Stimpy's comment is totally accurate IMHO.

Yes, the prime motivation for Broke Straight Boys to get straight guys to do gay things has been and should continue to be cash. But in the past the boys needed to pay some bills, some wanted to by a car or even ATVs. But now it's become in-your-face poverty and destitution.

Will we next see a boy sucking cock to pay for his mom's cancer operation?

Stimpy says it's depressing and until he mentioned it above I couldn't myself figure out why I've felt that way about most of the new vids. He's right. Not only that, but I believe this kind of exaggerated exploitation also gives gays, in general, a bad name.

Think of the old movies where the villian is the landlord who takes advantage of the young girl who can't pay the rent.

 

[Smiley]

Stimpy, if you left, I'd be lost.

Where else am I going to find someone who will compare running a gay porn site with televangelism?

I love you.

Smiley

 

[mikeyank]

Will we next see a boy sucking cock to pay for his mom's cancer operation?

Lubetube, I recall an episode out of the past, however I can not think of the model's name, where David told us on the forum that he found the model unattractive, and would normally not put him on the site, but his mother called David, and practically begged him to put her son on the site as the family was in desperate need of money. David called it a charity shoot, or something to that effect, and that it was the only time that a mother personally asked him to shoot her straight son performing gay sex for cash.

So the scenario was not about a cancer operation, but it was to help out his destitute mother. My real point is that these are all fantasy situations, often based on reality, but I don't take the "set ups" too seriously, whether it is a homeless guy under a bridge or a kid fishing for his dinner, or any of David's set-ups over the years. I look at them as little plays that lead to nakedness, hard dicks, cock sucking and ass fucking.

This is a porn site where we pay to be aroused by good looking young guys having sex. If we are not turned on we should not be member's here, but to turn the scenarios into a political or socioeconomic statement is taking our porn a bit too seriously. They are just set ups to lead to the sex. Either we get off it or not, but it's not real.

 

[cumrag27]

Gay porn vs. televangelist

Stimpy, if you left, I'd be lost.

Where else am I going to find someone who will compare running a gay porn site with televangelism?

I love you.

Smiley

Dear Smiley,

Haven't you figured it out yet. Next to going to church, Broke Straight Boys is where I come to pray daily, not to prey daily! I like to feel both spiritually and sexually uplifted. The only difference with televangelist and Broke Straight Boys model is that televangelists both "look and feel guilty", whereas our models both "look and feel relieved".

I love you too! Besides, GPS units are not that expensive these days!


Stimpy

 

[castrol]

Great episode! Whole body shots, from head to soles. Perfect!

Now, I like JOSH,,,and wish to see MORE of him!! He's my 'new' Tyler,,,so far,,,VERY much my type!! Thanks (finally)!!! LOL

 

[castrol]

Yep! I think we're finally getting on track here. Great Job, everyone!

DITTO...!!!

 

[castrol]

Good video keep up the good work. Josh was a pleasant guy and he did a fantastic job. Clay great choice .

Agreed!!!