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Jimmy and Zack

Zack is great-- Jimmy needs to GO!!!!!

One good thing about Jimmy, he keeps getting worse. I agree with those that said, Why waste Zack, with the obnoxious Jimmy. zack is cute and easy to watch, and then theres Jimmy. OMG!

I can't see any reason to keep Jimmy, unless it's to bottom, for everyone he's insulted. That will be a 10 hour video.

Sorry Mark, I can't stand Jimmy!:thumbdown:

Zack:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
''Think about it, if you were the "bottom model" in this scene with a person just a little short of being "homophobic" and not caring about how it was for you on the receiving end, wouldn't you feel you were getting the short-end of the stick from Jimmy''

Jimmy said at least he would not like to hurt the boy (Zack) upon entering...

But okay, let the cute asses of the Dark Side have their Jimmy!
Now all I want is Vinnie fucking Zack, twice.
 
Why not mail it in?

Did I just get two episodes for the price of one? On one episode I saw a bottom that was working it hard with what little he had to work with from a top and on the other episode I saw a disinterested top that was jacking himself off in an ass.

Jimmy was so disinterested in fucking Zack that he couldn't even look him in the eye. It appeared his only motivation was the porn playing on the out of sight monitor. I don't think Jimmy would have even touched Zack if he didn't have to hold his legs up to fuck him.

Zack took it and tried to make the best of it. With a top that would have been a little more sensual or even taking a half-assed interest in Zack, this scene could have evolved into something really hot....think porn Shane or the other Jimmy.

I've read the other posts and most of them have been the "love it or hate it" variety. While some have tried to read more into the scene, others have made excuses for the scene, and still others have perhaps been blind about what the whole scene was about. And then there are those that saw a fuck and said finally!

I'm torn myself....frustrated, unsure and certainly not pleased.
 
Did I just get two episodes for the price of one? On one episode I saw a bottom that was working it hard with what little he had to work with from a top and on the other episode I saw a disinterested top that was jacking himself off in an ass.

Jimmy was so disinterested in fucking Zack that he couldn't even look him in the eye. It appeared his only motivation was the porn playing on the out of sight monitor. I don't think Jimmy would have even touched Zack if he didn't have to hold his legs up to fuck him.

Zack took it and tried to make the best of it. With a top that would have been a little more sensual or even taking a half-assed interest in Zack, this scene could have evolved into something really hot....think porn Shane or the other Jimmy.

I've read the other posts and most of them have been the "love it or hate it" variety. While some have tried to read more into the scene, others have made excuses for the scene, and still others have perhaps been blind about what the whole scene was about. And then there are those that saw a fuck and said finally!

I'm torn myself....frustrated, unsure and certainly not pleased.

God how I've missed you man.
 
Wow Richard. I agree. That's the scene that I saw too. A lesbian with a strapon might have showed more interest in dear Zach and been less robotic during that scene. Zach was trying to make the best out of it.

Jimmy was finally doing some work. Which is a relief and a slight improvement. But again, carrying the scene and giving the camera and the viewer something to work with was all left to his fellow model.
 
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Jimmy

Straight, bi or gay a guy has to work at not being swept up by having his cock sucked. It must be exhausting to keep from allowing yourself to appear as tho you might actually being ggetting some physical pleasure from a BJ. Jimmy works so hard at letting us know he is straight. I'm thinking "the lady does protest too much."
 
I have a question. It's now five weeks into BSB2.0. Jimmy is obviously the star. When is he at least going to suck dick?
 
Spare the rod, spoils...

I have a question. It's now five weeks into BSB2.0. Jimmy is obviously the star. When is he at least going to suck dick?

Dear Smiley,

Jimmy is the poster boy for Broke Straight Boys re-branding. That means he doesn't do shit on the Broke Straight Boys set and, even so, he gets paid for doing exactly that, nothing but showing his bad attitude. It reminds me of the overly conceded and arrogant Broke Straight Boys model, Branden. All Branden had going for him was a "girthy cock" with absolutely "no personality" other than he was all about letting everyone else do whatever work was to be done in the scene. He typically resisted participating more than any model Broke Straight Boys has ever had.

I fear that good looking, "straight" as a board Jimmy ain't about to get too involved either because management has given him the "okay" and reinforced the idea that Jimmy is "special" and his "bad attitude and unwillingness to get involved" is what Broke Straight Boys is enthusiastically paying him for. Don't you know, that gives me the biggest boner EVER!:lol: Do you think I need to get to the Emergency Room to have them help me "lower my expectations" now that my erection has lasted longer than the "little blue pill" special effect was supposed to last?

Dear Smiley, don't you see how this permissive attitude coming from management of "spare the rod, spoils the childmight send a mixed message"? I think Jimmy, with his notoriously bad attitude, is acting like a spoiled brat that is too big for his "straight britches"! He needs to face reality for once, the reality that this is after all a gay porn site, despite the actual name!

Dear Smiley, your question seems reasonable enough..."Jimmy is obviously the star. When is he at least going to suck dick?" I cannot fault you with your logic! Just, please, please don't hold your breath! It probably would be in vain, after all. I would hate to lose you from the forum over something as temporary as "Jimmy" (not to be confused with the super-accommodating "Jimmie Slater" in ancient Broke Straight Boys history).

Sincerely,


Stimpy
 
Why should every straight guy suck dick, or get fucked by lesbian with a strapon?

Long live the non-versatile video's!
 
Dear Smiley,

Jimmy is the poster boy for Broke Straight Boys re-branding. That means he doesn't do shit on the Broke Straight Boys set and, even so, he gets paid for doing exactly that, nothing but showing his bad attitude. It reminds me of the overly conceded and arrogant Broke Straight Boys model, Branden. All Branden had going for him was a "girthy cock" with absolutely "no personality" other than he was all about letting everyone else do whatever work was to be done in the scene. He typically resisted participating more than any model Broke Straight Boys has ever had.

I fear that good looking, "straight" as a board Jimmy ain't about to get too involved either because management has given him the "okay" and reinforced the idea that Jimmy is "special" and his "bad attitude and unwillingness to get involved" is what Broke Straight Boys is enthusiastically paying him for. Don't you know, that gives me the biggest boner EVER!:lol: Do you think I need to get to the Emergency Room to have them help me "lower my expectations" now that my erection has lasted longer than the "little blue pill" special effect was supposed to last?

Dear Smiley, don't you see how this permissive attitude coming from management of "spare the rod, spoils the childmight send a mixed message"? I think Jimmy, with his notoriously bad attitude, is acting like a spoiled brat that is too big for his "straight britches"! He needs to face reality for once, the reality that this is after all a gay porn site, despite the actual name!

Dear Smiley, your question seems reasonable enough..."Jimmy is obviously the star. When is he at least going to suck dick?" I cannot fault you with your logic! Just, please, please don't hold your breath! It probably would be in vain, after all. I would hate to lose you from the forum over something as temporary as "Jimmy" (not to be confused with the super-accommodating "Jimmie Slater" in ancient Broke Straight Boys history).

Sincerely,


Stimpy
To my good friend Stimpy,

I must respectfully disagree with you on several points. You highlight in red your opinion that Jimmy shows his "bad attitude". I don't see this at all. In fact, I find him to be charming, quick witted and personable. If I were lucky enough to attend a live Broke Straight Boys event where Jimmy made an appearance, I would feel honored to be among the gay men whom he mingles with at these events, and he seems quite humble and respectful to his audience and with his gay co-workers.

Of course when he is filming a "scene" for Clay for the site, he is following a script that has been laid out for him, and he is very good in his role as the straight top who gets serviced by the bi or gay model that he is partnered with. But it seems quite obvious to me that he is having fun with his wisecracks and his playful attitude, and Clay and his co stars seem to go along with his jokes. When he was partnered with Jamie, there seemed to be a lot of jock style comradery between the two, trading quips, and little put downs.

I also disagree with your comparison of Jimmy to Braden. Braden seemed a bit "dull", was not terribly attractive and showed almost zero personality. I agree with your assessment that :

"All Branden had going for him was a "girthy cock" with absolutely "no personality" "

If I were to compare Jimmy to any previous models on Broke Straight Boys, I would use Tank Shane, Jordan or Mike Robbins as models with a similar "straight boy vibe" who were not here to bottom, but to be the prototypical "straight top" type that many devotees of this site crave to see, with very masculine looks, attitudes, and manner in the way they have sex. They do not exhibit the loving tender vibe of a Jimmie Slater or a Porn Shane, but they are a different genre of "Broke Straight Boys". I am not saying that one type of model is better or superior to the other, as all of our sexual desires are all oh so varied, and it is impossible to definitively declare one type better than the other. It is all subjective to the person watching.

As far as Smiley's question of "When is he at least going to suck dick?", that is an interesting question. I suggest you stay tuned to future episodes of Broke Straight Boys to find out. It will certainly make for an interesting, and to me a very exciting moment when another dude's hard cock is sucked by the handsome, macho straight boy Jimmy. I also wouldn't be totally shocked if he eventually does take a dick to his pretty ass, as Tank Shane was coerced to do, or as Mike Robbins attempted on one occasion.

But I do believe that it is all part of the evolution of this straight boy that Mark and Clay have decided to feature as their first "star" of Broke Straight Boys-v 2. It is a slow progression, but one that seems quite believable to me, (within the context of this fantasy quasi reality site).

You and the other's who are tired of Jimmy are certainly entitled to your opinions, but I am a very satisfied customer with what I've seen of him, so far. I am far from bored by Jimmy and am looking forward to the further development of him on the site.
 
As far as Smiley's question of "When is he at least going to suck dick?", that is an interesting question. I suggest you stay tuned to future episodes of Broke Straight Boys to find out. It will certainly make for an interesting, and to me a very exciting moment when another dude's hard cock is sucked by the handsome, macho straight boy Jimmy.
Of course, you are right but today's was the fifth Jimmy video where he's been with another guy. Has he even given another guy a hand job? I don't think so. I'm glad Broke Straight Boys isn't your typical wham-bam porno site, with videos getting down to business in the first fifteen seconds, but come on, this isn't The Lord of the Rings, either.
 
I have to agree somewhat with Mikeyank. I think Jimmy shows a lot of personality and he is following the script set out for him. Maybe he will go farther, I hope so.
 
I'm sure that Jimmy will go farther and do more. Otherwise they wouldn't keep him around. So I'm sure for instance that he'll do oral in the near future. Juanjo is quite right that for all we know he is following the script that they gave him. That being that he needs to look like he hates all of the gay sex to prove his straight credentials. However this being the instant gratification society that it is...members will tolerate a few lackluster scenes with even the straightest of models for only so long.

Jimmy still has the chance to build up a good fan following here on the site. Which appears to be what mgmt is hoping for. But his progression does need to move along at a faster pace or people will lose interest in him. Even if he does more a month or two down the road people may not be able to forgive all the mediocre scenes that it took to get him to that point.

So in short, pacing is important. We want to believe that the models are straight. That's fine to show them being resistant. But after a certain point the show must go on.
 
I'm sure that Jimmy will go farther and do more. Otherwise they wouldn't keep him around. So I'm sure for instance that he'll do oral in the near future. Juanjo is quite right that for all we know he is following the script that they gave him. That being that he needs to look like he hates all of the gay sex to prove his straight credentials. However this being the instant gratification society that it is...members will tolerate a few lackluster scenes with even the straightest of models for only so long.

Jimmy still has the chance to build up a good fan following here on the site. Which appears to be what mgmt is hoping for. But his progression does need to move along at a faster pace or people will lose interest in him. Even if he does more a month or two down the road people may not be able to forgive all the mediocre scenes that it took to get him to that point.

So in short, pacing is important. We want to believe that the models are straight. That's fine to show them being resistant. But after a certain point the show must go on.

Tamps, I would go further and suggest that Jimmy could keep on in the near term doing just what he's been doing, with the same narrow repertoire of tricks, but just change his futon attitude to the schtick he's already learned. I'm sure you and mikeyank and many more will agree that the "No, I guess that wasn't so bad after all" moment in a brokie's voyage of discovery is an especially gratifying one for a lot of the gay guys who subscribe to sites like this. To hear a Jimmy-jock who presents himself as a total straightie say those magic words represents all kinds of vindication to a person who might have had to face some rejection or abuse for enjoying the same stuff the newly enlightened straight guy has discovered he enjoys too. We like Jimmy's physical exterior but not so much his forced and slightly nauseating homophobic heterosexuality. If we saw him liking what we like even grudgingly, he'd lose some of his crassness. The contradiction between his stiffy and his sneer doesn't turn me on all that much.

I haven't read this whole thread and am coming back to it a bit late. Hope this post doesn't just repeat stuff that's already been said.
 
I dunno, Slim. If Jimmy just cruises along, a hot stud with a hot stud attitude, glad to get off with a girl, a guy, his right hand or a watermelon, he would be a brand new kind of brokie.

Part of the deal has been that a model has had to advance. Sometimes with David breaking in a new model, it became too predictable and regimented, and one of the nice things about BSB2.0 so far has been breaking up the script. It shouldn't just be solo>handjob>blowjob>top>bottom. But unless a new model's first time on the set is bottoming for an orgy, we expect them to move forward.

Jimmy may be a more true-to-life straight boy - "Suck my dick!" - but this ain't reality, it's porn. Even reality shows are scripted. Clay has shown himself adept at writing different scripts than what we've been used to, but that would be a challenge. Change and growth is what drama is all about. How do you have an interesting character without change and growth?
 
These guys tell their hobby's like painting, fishing, skateboarding... And Clay picks up on that and creates these great outdoor scenes! However Jimmy is not a natural born Oscar winning actor.

It's a shaping the scene... but also and foremost let the guys be themselves as much as possible. The body language, jokes, eyes tells 90% of the character. It's not the lines... not the script...
People respond to Jimmy's negative sighs, looking at the porn on TV instead of Zack.
We want sex made personal. That's what makes Broke Straight Boys such a special site for me!

Jimmy is a nice guy, but he dislikes gay sex... he happens to be really straight! Thank heaven he is not our new movie director, and we have Clay (and Matt!)
Offer Jimmy a job at brokestraightgirls.com and make him happy and many members here happy too. There is not a handful of handsome straight guys, but land full!

PS: Please help to improve on my English. Why is it handful with one letter l, and land full with double llllll's? Is the hand not full?
 
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Part of the deal has been that a model has had to advance. Sometimes with David breaking in a new model, it became too predictable and regimented, and one of the nice things about BSB2.0 so far has been breaking up the script. It shouldn't just be solo>handjob>blowjob>top>bottom. But unless a new model's first time on the set is bottoming for an orgy, we expect them to move forward.

Jimmy may be a more true-to-life straight boy - "Suck my dick!" - but this ain't reality, it's porn. Even reality shows are scripted. Clay has shown himself adept at writing different scripts than what we've been used to, but that would be a challenge.

Change and growth is what drama is all about. How do you have an interesting character without change and growth?

Smiley! :)

You have just laid bare the crux of the challenge facing Clay and Broke Straight Boys 2.0. While most of us wanted change and a fresh perspective, even among ourselves we can't decide what it should be. David himself freely admits that after several years he was growing tired of trying to keep the same formula fresh and interesting. If we don't want to see the formula go the predictable route of solo>handjob>oral>topping>bottoming...then what does that look like?

If we take something away what do we add in its place? If anything?


If we do want basically the same pattern but with some freshness to it...how is that achieved?

I'm sure there are diverse tastes in our membership. Many of whom would make strong cases for both routes.
 
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To quote Ray

That reminds me of Ray's post in the thread: Idea's, suggestions for the new Broke Straight Boys ~ (November, 25th)

There has been a lot of criticism over the last few months of Broke Straight Boys & the need for change.
Now let me see if I have this straight.

Members asked for change – Change has been announced
Management asked forumites for advice as to the direction of the new Broke Straight Boys – Management has received advice from forumites as to the direction of the new Broke Straight Boys

1. Forumites asked for new models – But still want previous Broke Straight Boys models
2. Forumites asked for new settings – But still want same setting
3. Forumites asked for new director – But still want the same director
4. Forumites asked for new sets – But still want the futon
5. Forumites asked for straight boys – But want them to go all the way as if they are gay
6. Forumites asked for the director to be less vocal – But want vocal interaction between the models & the director
7. Forumites asked for shorter solos – But want solos to be the same
8. Forumites asked for focus on the cum shot – But wants focus on face
9. Forumites asked that the boys do what comes naturally – But wants boys to be directed

It all makes perfect sense to me
 
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